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07-15-2018 , 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dogarse
This has got to be troll though right? It's just too perfectly encapsulates everything about OP that has been tilting the regular thread posters.

I hope for OPs sake it as an excellently maneuvered troll because going to Sydney with a 3.5K life roll will really suck.
I think I wrote the same thing yesterday. I'm beginning to think this is an epic troll. OP posts terribly played hands, ignores nearly every spound piece of advice and when he does respond he alters his reasoning or villain's ranges to justify his actions. How is this guy remotely serious?
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07-15-2018 , 08:29 PM
I think up until now OP has been pretty honest but if he went home last decided "I'm going to **** with this guys" then he wrote the perfect post do so. Even the hand selection is perfect, right on the borderline of ridiculous and believable.
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07-15-2018 , 08:32 PM
Dog and others,

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Originally Posted by dogarse

I hope for OPs sake it as an excellently maneuvered troll because going to Sydney with a 3.5K life roll will really suck.

You’re overstating the severity of his situation. Think of him as a pizza delivery guy taking a vacation for a few months, playing some poker and a bunch of video games, going on some trips etc, while his girlfriend goes to school and brings in money for them with her job.

When you think about it that way, there’s no reason to be concerned for him. He’s gonna do this for a while, then will go back to delivering pizza when he needs to. He said his gf brings in some money for them plus he has a friend willing to loan him money, so he’s not in any kind of dire straits.
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07-15-2018 , 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo
Dog and others,

You’re overstating the severity of his situation. Think of him as a pizza delivery guy taking a vacation for a few months, playing some poker and a bunch of video games, going on some trips etc, while his girlfriend goes to school and brings in money for them with her job.

When you think about it that way, there’s no reason to be concerned for him. He’s gonna do this for a while, then will go back to delivering pizza when he needs to. He said his gf brings in some money for them plus he has a friend willing to loan him money, so he’s not in any kind of dire straits.
+1

I do think there is justification to being concerned about how deep OP’s degen rabbit hole will go moreso than whether or not he ends up homeless. Too often, gambling addicts negatively affect those around them, causing direct financial harm either by non repayable debts or straight up theft in order to stay afloat. Not saying that OP is an addict but there are definitely indications based on post history. I’m honestly in the boat that OP can realize when he’s gone too far and when it’s time to get back on the delivery/normal employment route. In the meantime, it really is just likely a short term vacay of sorts. Part of the amusement for me comes from how OP refers to this degen vacation as being in any way a professional venture.
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07-15-2018 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Well it technically wasn't a straddle, it was a "blind raise", meaning I don't get my option back if it limps around.

My casino doesn't allow straddles in games below 5/5.
Ok so even worse...you blind raise which is always severely -EV, then you get 3 bet, and you 4 bet jam KQo. I hope the guy 3 betting you was aware it was a blind raise because often people are not. Though they don't widen their 3 bet ranges enough even if they are.

Makes sense with your love of 4 bet / calling AJo and 4 bet jamming 99 lol.

You are hopeless dude. Next time you have 99 just flat call if you have setmining odds FFS. You could clean up setmining because of your aggrotard image. Though I think it's more of a lifestyle...

And your AJo 4 bet is not justified by the fact the other guy was an even bigger aggrotard with 97s. Just fold that garbage and wait for a better spot.

FWIW if you were at my table I would instantly move to get position on you and treat you like a whale. I'm guessing this is how the other good players see you. Texting their friends "dude you have to get over to this table 6BM just showed up playing 2/5 with 1k and he's in full spewtard mode".
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07-15-2018 , 11:28 PM
I’m confused why we are 4 betting AJo after a MAWG 3 bets to $100. Even if he’s light to iso the tilted guy, light for him means ATs+ AJo+ 99+ and we are getting **** on by that range.

99 jam is sub optimal against the population.

UTG blind raise is lighting money on fire. Getting it in with KQo should get you convicted for arson.

I really do feel like you could be a solid player if that was your goal and you had the discipline but you are an action junkie. Why are you playing $100 turbo sit n gos?
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07-15-2018 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by prairiebreeze
OP is a gambling addict and that will never happen.

$4k to busto, right?
Busto is nearly guaranteed. A person can't do everything and every decision in life and poker completely wrong and succeed. He can't wish is own personal reality into existence but boy is he trying. But reality is what it is, and he can't do everything wrong and get anything but complete failure.

If he completely changed I'd root for his success but right now he is getting what he deserves based on all his actions.

Last edited by WorldzMine; 07-16-2018 at 12:04 AM.
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07-16-2018 , 12:45 AM
those last few hands making me think hes just a troll, again. hard to believe he can be that ******ed.
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07-16-2018 , 01:50 AM
My 2/5 session last night

I was drunk when I played that session last night. I'd just taken my girlfriend home, she went to sleep and I returned to the casino at 3am. I still feel like I played fine though, though definitely on the loose aggro side.

I first sat down on a 2/5 table with a $200 stack. I find a perfect spot to squeeze jam 88, the original raiser folds and I'm certain I'm about to take down about $60 profit... then one of the callers now calls my $200 jam. I knew I was going to lose the pot when the runout came TJQKx, but I didn't expect my opponent to flip over 98o?!

So I rebuy and find another good squeeze jam spot with AJo this time. This time, the preflop raiser from UTG decides to flat my $200 jam, he flips over 88 and he holds. I see how it is. This is the MAWG that I go on to cold 4bet AJo against later, since I know that he's a fairly loose player.

Since the maniac whale from my 1/3 table earlier is on this 2/5 table, and she's opening to $50 UTG and overbetting flops and stuff like that, I decide that I'll take one $500 shot and then that's it. I'll go home if I lose this money.

I have a conversation with her and another Indian guy and we become friends, the Indian guy buys us both drinks too. He eventually gets asked to leave though for being too drunk, whilst me and the woman are allowed to stay.

So anyway, I'm soon dealt 66 (no diamond) from the BB, there's an open to $20 and 2 callers and I call too. 4ways to a flop of T42 with two diamonds. Also, the Ten of hearts has been exposed preflop, making it less likely that anyone has top pair. So it checks to the preflop raiser who bets $40 (half pot) and I decide to x/c. My plan is to give up most turns. But then the turn comes an offsuit 2 making the board T432. I check to him and he bets $80 (half pot). I figure that I block 65, I unblock diamonds, I can credibly rep sets and the Ten of hearts has been exposed, so with all 4 of those things in my favour, this seems like a decent spot to just x/jam $440. My opponent tank calls, then mucks at showdown. He claimed he had a combo draw.

Then the table breaks, but most of the players on the new 2/5 table are the same. The player whom I sit down next to, who's a 2/5 reg, was accusing me of being a nit. I spend about 30 mins folding every hand, I watch someone else bust the whale, then I decide that there's no value on this table anymore and I'm going to cash out. I decide to wait 1 orbit before leaving though, rather than leaving at the exact moment that the whale leaves. Since everyone thinks that I'm a nit, I decide to utilise that image by 4betting AJo and 99 against squeezes. It doesn't go well (see the hand histories I posted earlier) and that's when I bust my 1k stack.

Now I've got a massive hangover and I guess I semi-regret playing 2/5, but then again not really, since it was definitely a +EV session. I just need to man up and take the variance as it comes, I guess.
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07-16-2018 , 01:58 AM
I didn't have the balls to jam here

There was one more hand I played which I forgot to post. In this hand, we were about $500 effective.

Whale opens $50 UTG
CO calls $50
Hero flats $50 SB with 22 (definitely a loose play)
BB flats $50

Flop ($185, 4ways) is Td 7d 3s

2 checks
Whale bets $145
CO folds
Hero tank folds (I really thought about jamming here)
BB folds

Whale flips over AKo
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07-16-2018 , 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
I didn't have the balls to jam here

There was one more hand I played which I forgot to post. In this hand, we were about $500 effective.

Whale opens $50 UTG
CO calls $50
Hero flats $50 SB with 22 (definitely a loose play)
BB flats $50

Flop ($185, 4ways) is Td 7d 3s

2 checks
Whale bets $145
CO folds
Hero tank folds (I really thought about jamming here)
BB folds

Whale flips over AKo
this is so results orientated
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07-16-2018 , 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Since everyone thinks that I'm a nit, I decide to utilise that image by 4betting AJo and 99 against squeezes. It doesn't go well
Everyone thinks I'm a nit, because I'm a nit. Yesterday:

- At a table with at least 3 regs who have played with me before, action goes LAG opens $20, 5 callers, I raise BTN to $150 with AA, folds round to guy on my immediate right (well known reg) who flats with $100 behind. It goes in on a KQ7 two tone flop, MHIG.

- At PLO, I sit down and do nothing except fold for 70 minutes, then I limp UTG, shortie maniac raises, 4 callers to me, I re-raise pot, shortie calls, SB calls. SB shoves flop with a non-nut flush draw, MHIG.

So two situations where my action is ridiculously nutted, I actually do have a nit image and people still fell over themselves to pay me off.
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07-16-2018 , 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
My 2/5 session last night

I was drunk when I played that session last night. I'd just taken my girlfriend home, she went to sleep and I returned to the casino at 3am. I still feel like I played fine though, though definitely on the loose aggro side.

I first sat down on a 2/5 table with a $200 stack. I find a perfect spot to squeeze jam 88, the original raiser folds and I'm certain I'm about to take down about $60 profit... then one of the callers now calls my $200 jam. I knew I was going to lose the pot when the runout came TJQKx, but I didn't expect my opponent to flip over 98o?!

So I rebuy and find another good squeeze jam spot with AJo this time. This time, the preflop raiser from UTG decides to flat my $200 jam, he flips over 88 and he holds. I see how it is. This is the MAWG that I go on to cold 4bet AJo against later, since I know that he's a fairly loose player.

Since the maniac whale from my 1/3 table earlier is on this 2/5 table, and she's opening to $50 UTG and overbetting flops and stuff like that, I decide that I'll take one $500 shot and then that's it. I'll go home if I lose this money.

I have a conversation with her and another Indian guy and we become friends, the Indian guy buys us both drinks too. He eventually gets asked to leave though for being too drunk, whilst me and the woman are allowed to stay.

So anyway, I'm soon dealt 66 (no diamond) from the BB, there's an open to $20 and 2 callers and I call too. 4ways to a flop of T42 with two diamonds. Also, the Ten of hearts has been exposed preflop, making it less likely that anyone has top pair. So it checks to the preflop raiser who bets $40 (half pot) and I decide to x/c. My plan is to give up most turns. But then the turn comes an offsuit 2 making the board T432. I check to him and he bets $80 (half pot). I figure that I block 65, I unblock diamonds, I can credibly rep sets and the Ten of hearts has been exposed, so with all 4 of those things in my favour, this seems like a decent spot to just x/jam $440. My opponent tank calls, then mucks at showdown. He claimed he had a combo draw.

Then the table breaks, but most of the players on the new 2/5 table are the same. The player whom I sit down next to, who's a 2/5 reg, was accusing me of being a nit. I spend about 30 mins folding every hand, I watch someone else bust the whale, then I decide that there's no value on this table anymore and I'm going to cash out. I decide to wait 1 orbit before leaving though, rather than leaving at the exact moment that the whale leaves. Since everyone thinks that I'm a nit, I decide to utilise that image by 4betting AJo and 99 against squeezes. It doesn't go well (see the hand histories I posted earlier) and that's when I bust my 1k stack.

Now I've got a massive hangover and I guess I semi-regret playing 2/5, but then again not really, since it was definitely a +EV session. I just need to man up and take the variance as it comes, I guess.
Can you post results from this session, along with your current bankroll?
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07-16-2018 , 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
So I rebuy and find another good squeeze jam spot with AJo this time.
Alright boys, time to pack it up, we're all definitely getting trolled by OP.
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07-16-2018 , 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
Can you post results from this session, along with your current bankroll?
Lost $900 that session. Bankroll roughly 4k
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07-16-2018 , 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by WereBeer
Everyone thinks I'm a nit, because I'm a nit. Yesterday:



- At a table with at least 3 regs who have played with me before, action goes LAG opens $20, 5 callers, I raise BTN to $150 with AA, folds round to guy on my immediate right (well known reg) who flats with $100 behind. It goes in on a KQ7 two tone flop, MHIG.



- At PLO, I sit down and do nothing except fold for 70 minutes, then I limp UTG, shortie maniac raises, 4 callers to me, I re-raise pot, shortie calls, SB calls. SB shoves flop with a non-nut flush draw, MHIG.



So two situations where my action is ridiculously nutted, I actually do have a nit image and people still fell over themselves to pay me off.


Live poker in a nutshell. I’ve had two people needle me for not playing a hand for 90 minutes and they still couldn’t help themselves when I raised.

OP is one of those guys who just can’t help himself.


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07-16-2018 , 10:14 AM
Just came 1st in a $25 online MTT, won $550. Won a little at 50nl too.

Now I'm officially $60 up online for the year. Feels good to be back into the positives for both live and online.
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07-16-2018 , 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Just came 1st in a $25 online MTT, won $550. Won a little at 50nl too.

Now I'm officially $60 up online for the year. Feels good to be back into the positives for both live and online.
That's great for a rec player with a job. For a pro...not so much. "Being up" doesnt pay the bills. You have to make enough to actually pay the bills.
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07-16-2018 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Lost $900 that session. Bankroll roughly 4k
Ok. And you're setting aside $1k for the Sydney vacation? How much are your monthly expenses right now? (you used to spend $40 a day on food, I guess you don't do that anymore)
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07-16-2018 , 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
I got laid off from a job at 23 years old. Did I sit around and whine about it?
Did I complain that life is too hard and it was so much easier for my parents when they were my age? I didn't have money for College, so I sacked up and I joined the Army. I was sent overseas away from my family for years. I shed blood, sweat and tears for the military industrial complex and imperialism and I became a good bootlicker.
fyp

Spoiler:
only because you have to derail every thread 100's of times with your narcissism
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07-16-2018 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
That's great for a rec player with a job. For a pro...not so much. "Being up" doesnt pay the bills. You have to make enough to actually pay the bills.
True, but it's still a start. And being up money, even just a small amount, is what gives me confidence that I can win. And confidence in my game is what motivates me to grind and crush my opponents. A lack of confidence, on the other hand, causes desperation and tilt.

I'm really pushing towards my goal now to beat 50nl online. I've been watching a tonne of videos by skuz poker and how he beats 200z on Ignition. I'm trying to emulate his plays at 50nl.

I know a few other players who can beat 200nl but want me to pay them for coaching. Maybe when my roll builds up, I'll consider that, but for now, I'm going to do my best to utilise all the free content available on YouTube.

I just recently started listening to Nick Howard too. I really look up to him because he seems incredibly wise and mentally stable. I definitely think that my mental leaks are far greater than my technical leaks, so I should devote more time to improving my mental game.

In terms of paying the rent, I'll continue to put in sessions of 1/3 NL at the casino, but my real passion at the moment is in trying to become a winning small stakes online reg.
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07-16-2018 , 10:54 AM
By "continue to put in sessions of 1/3 NL" you mean "start to put in sessions at 1/3 NL". You need to have played 1/3 NL the last time (and not 2/5 $1k deep) in order to continue 1/3 NL.
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07-16-2018 , 10:55 AM
6,

Does your $4500 bankroll include the $1500 “emergency money” you initially mentioned?
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07-16-2018 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo
6,

Does your $4500 bankroll include the $1500 “emergency money” you initially mentioned?
3k in cash/casino chips
1k in overdraft
1.5k emergency money (not included in roll)
1.1k in online poker account (not included in live roll)

= 4k total that I am counting towards my roll.
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07-16-2018 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
By "continue to put in sessions of 1/3 NL" you mean "start to put in sessions at 1/3 NL". You need to have played 1/3 NL the last time (and not 2/5 $1k deep) in order to continue 1/3 NL.
In the past 6 weeks, I've played 113 hours of live poker, and 74 of those hours were spent at 1/3 NL. I spend more time playing 1/3 NL than I do playing any other form of poker combined.
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