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05-16-2018 , 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Straddling to $300 at 1/3. Playing my F game.

Last night, I went to the casino after work. I knew before I even arrived that I was tired, wasn't feeling 100% and would probably be playing my B or C game, but I never expected to see myself playing my F game.

I had a beer because I was bored. Knock off drinks is how I justified it. My eyes kept closing at the table, so I had to go to the bathroom and splash my face with cold water in order to stay awake. When I came back, I was UTG so I just said "f**k it, $300 no look!"

I jammed my entire stack in before the cards were even dealt. I ended up having 87o and losing to an old guy that called me with QQ and held. I rebought and started opening 50% of hands. In one situation, I isolated on BTN with J6o and got 1 caller. I cbet the 984 flop, checked back the 2 turn and then potted it for $100 on the J river. This old guy x/jams $250 and I snap call. I don't even think about it for a second. Obviously he had a monster and I lost another stack there.

It didn't take me long to drop 1k at 1/3 NL and I was quick to jump to the 1/3 PLO table after that to chase my losses. Once again, I continued to play spewy and undisciplined. I would 5bet jam AJTT single suited preflop because it felt like the nuts to me when I was desperate to just gamble it up.

I ran super hot at PLO and managed to recover $500 of the lost money from NLHE. Then I almost lost it all. Here's what happened:

I started by calling a raise with a hand that should've folded preflop. Then I called a pot-sized bet on the flop with a naked gutshot. Not even a backdoor flush draw or anything. That's how much I wanted to gamble. I turned the nuts (only 8% chance of this happening), then put my stack in, only to find that my opponent had the same straight as me, except he had a set to go with it. I was getting freerolled in a 2.2k pot. If the board paired then I'd lose it all; otherwise I'd chop. Thankfully, river was a brick and I chopped that hand.

Shortly after that intense hand, I cashed out and ultimately left $564 down for the day.

I don't know why the f**k I have the urge to do dumb sh*t like this. This is the second time this month when I went ape sh*t and did something incredibly destructive (the other incident happened at 2/5 - I posted about it in this thread). Both times I managed to escape without too much harm, but I know that this isn't sustainable. I need to stop doing this or I could end up losing my entire bankroll in a day.

Currently $11,489 up at live poker. Bankroll is roughly 7k. I need to be sensible and never spew like this again.


LMAO, no **** Sherlock.

Trainwreckfactor is getting bigger and bigger everyday in this thread.
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05-16-2018 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
You are either a complete and utter degen moron, or this is all made up because you are an attention whore.
95% of the time I'm responsible and disciplined, but it only takes one session of degeneracy to ruin everything.

Nah it's not made up. Ask anyone who was on table 12 at Crown Melbourne around 2am Wednesday morning (the 1/3 NL game) or ask anyone who was on table 7 around 5am (the 1/3 PLO game).
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05-16-2018 , 11:36 AM
Good luck being a successful long term pro if you're currently going full maniac mode every ~40 hours.

Gquitpoker,attempttofindabetterjob,nothingelseisre motelyclose,imho;goodluckG
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05-16-2018 , 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by TheTyman9
Spirit's posts all read like a flat earther. Needs to believe in a bunch of nonsense to feel special and like he knows something everyone else doesn't. In reality he was a naive kid and got taken advantage of by a bad person who happened to be a female. With all this matrix talk pretty sure he got all this nonsense from whatever that weirdo subreddit is where all the angry males take out their frustrations against women, i believe called the red pill subreddit but not positive.
Thank you for posting. Seriously
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05-16-2018 , 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Avaritia
Thank you for posting. Seriously
+1

This spirit123 guy is like the most tilting person ever, so much BS in his posts.
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05-16-2018 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Yeah delivering pizzas is my job. I never intended it to be my permanent job though. I started this job at the same time as I started uni and I had planned to work this job for 4 years and then quit upon graduation as soon as I got a professional full-time job in either finance or as an actuary. That plan didn't work out so well haha.
You dropped out of uni to grind 2nlz on Stars. Kind of says it all really.
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05-16-2018 , 12:35 PM
Man that last session was pure insanity. Dude you should never set foot in a casino again. Seriously.
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05-16-2018 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
You are either a complete and utter degen moron, or this is all made up because you are an attention whore.
Deep down I was hoping this was all a troll thread. I thought the exact same thing, made up... I think we are both wrong and it's reality. The crash and burn is inevitable. Again, OP... I suggest you go read my PG&C thread to see my crash and burn. It is so similar to your situation and mindset.

I know you're going to fail, 100%. There's no question in my mind. You will either disappear from here one day or you will come crawling back to this forum so much worse off than ever before in your life. I told you about my past, where to find it, and all you replied was, "will you give me the story of what happened?"........ dude, are you illiterate? I told you exactly where to find it and that if you read it, you will see yourself in my writing and just maybe it WILL HELP YOU. But, You don't want help, you want attention. You sure are getting it here.

God damn --- wake up. Legit people are trying to help you and you're just giving everyone the middle finger. I don't even know why I keep posting in this thread.

Few last tips OP. Keep playing PLO (play higher, your skills are obviously higher than the field at your local casino) and 2/5 and 5/10 NL, it will definitely give you the best hourly rate and your ROR is basically non-existent at these low limits, look how much you crush them every time you play. Quit your job, you don't need to be a little pizza delivery boy, focus on your GF, poker will pay for everything(you're skilled, remember?). Stay with your girlfriend, go take her to dinner tonight to make sure she's happy, consider upgrading her phone to the X, she MUST be happy for your success. Also, get an apartment for you 2, wtf are you doing living with 5+ other strangers?

Sigh...
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05-16-2018 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
+1

This spirit123 guy is like the most tilting person ever, so much BS in his posts.

He is exagarrating alot in his posts, no doubt. That being said, he is hitting home with some of his elements if you manage to se through the forest of zero nuances, exagarrating negative/dystopia/catastrophic writing style+ i also sense some bitterness here and there.

If you cut away most of the fat, you can still sit back with a pretty decent steak filet though.

Couple of homeruns from him:

-Many guys are so insecure that they overcompensate for the lack of sels esteem by putting the women on a pedestal, treating her like a queen and buying alot of expensive stuff for her.

-Women needing (and wanting) more guys with strong alpha male behaviour. Brave,taking decision, sticks with it, go for what they want in life,take risks+++

Last edited by Petrucci; 05-16-2018 at 01:25 PM.
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05-16-2018 , 01:01 PM
Despite OP ignoring our advice multiple times I still feel bad for OP because it's going to end badly and I've been there. However, I have to laugh at this post...

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Originally Posted by 6bet me
I'm going to pin this post up on my wall at home so that when I'm a successful pro in a few months time, worth 5 figures and crushing 2/5 and 5/5/10 NL for $50+/hr, I can look back on this and laugh at all the people who doubted me.

And no, I'm nothing like those degenerates that play the slot machines. They're superstitious and I'm not. They have no plan and I do have a plan. They don't understand EV and variance like I do. They have no skills except the ability to push buttons, whereas I have strong poker skills. We're completely different people who just happen to be in the same casino at the same time.
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05-16-2018 , 01:20 PM
OP's play has devolved from this....



To full on this....



6BM....

Some. Self. Reflection. Please.
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05-16-2018 , 01:41 PM
Why don't you sit 5/10 to win back some of those losses?
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05-16-2018 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
Why don't you sit 5/10 to win back some of those losses?
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05-16-2018 , 02:21 PM
Damn, pretty weak that you didnt get your girl the X bro, not very baller. Maybe if you move up you wont tilt as much and play better, while also having a higher hourly. If you move up to 5/10, your hourly will instantly be over 50$ which is way better than your current job and will allow you to build up faster. 50 hour weeks at lets say 60$ an hour and bam, you're making 12k a month - guaranteed!

Dont listen to these people saying you cant spoil your girl, they just dont understand poker or relationships as well as you do, as they lack experience in both of these categories. Why do you keep a pizza job when your poker skill is earning you more money with more long term potential when you move up? Poker is also way more fun than pizza! You should quit your job and go full time poker with an aim of moving up asap so you can spoil your girl even more, maybe even rent out a nice penthouse condo. She will love you so much! Btw, do you also have an essential top of the line phone? Seems unfair for your work to go towards someone else having a better phone than you do, you deserve a better one. If I was you i'd get myself the X because you're the one bringing in da paper. GL bro, prove these dumb haters wrong!!!
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05-16-2018 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Straddling to $300 at 1/3. Playing my F game.

Last night, I went to the casino after work. I knew before I even arrived that I was tired, wasn't feeling 100% and would probably be playing my B or C game, but I never expected to see myself playing my F game.

I had a beer because I was bored. Knock off drinks is how I justified it. My eyes kept closing at the table, so I had to go to the bathroom and splash my face with cold water in order to stay awake. When I came back, I was UTG so I just said "f**k it, $300 no look!"

I jammed my entire stack in before the cards were even dealt. I ended up having 87o and losing to an old guy that called me with QQ and held. I rebought and started opening 50% of hands. In one situation, I isolated on BTN with J6o and got 1 caller. I cbet the 984 flop, checked back the 2 turn and then potted it for $100 on the J river. This old guy x/jams $250 and I snap call. I don't even think about it for a second. Obviously he had a monster and I lost another stack there.

It didn't take me long to drop 1k at 1/3 NL and I was quick to jump to the 1/3 PLO table after that to chase my losses. Once again, I continued to play spewy and undisciplined. I would 5bet jam AJTT single suited preflop because it felt like the nuts to me when I was desperate to just gamble it up.

I ran super hot at PLO and managed to recover $500 of the lost money from NLHE. Then I almost lost it all. Here's what happened:

I started by calling a raise with a hand that should've folded preflop. Then I called a pot-sized bet on the flop with a naked gutshot. Not even a backdoor flush draw or anything. That's how much I wanted to gamble. I turned the nuts (only 8% chance of this happening), then put my stack in, only to find that my opponent had the same straight as me, except he had a set to go with it. I was getting freerolled in a 2.2k pot. If the board paired then I'd lose it all; otherwise I'd chop. Thankfully, river was a brick and I chopped that hand.

Shortly after that intense hand, I cashed out and ultimately left $564 down for the day.

I don't know why the f**k I have the urge to do dumb sh*t like this. This is the second time this month when I went ape sh*t and did something incredibly destructive (the other incident happened at 2/5 - I posted about it in this thread). Both times I managed to escape without too much harm, but I know that this isn't sustainable. I need to stop doing this or I could end up losing my entire bankroll in a day.

Currently $11,489 up at live poker. Bankroll is roughly 7k. I need to be sensible and never spew like this again.
It's not a straddle if you don't have any chips behind, it's a blind all-in. Take a break and reevaluate your life, you're clearly too emotional to play well right now.

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Originally Posted by Phil Me Up
OP's play has devolved from this....



To full on this....



6BM....

Some. Self. Reflection. Please.
lol that cracked me up.
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05-16-2018 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
You are either a complete and utter degen moron, or this is all made up because you are an attention whore.
I'm leaning towards made up.

The main reason is it's so hard to believe he has kept his job. Based on what he has written (and I mean in EVERY post) it does not compute that he would keep working a $400 a week job. Doesn't seem that his ego would allow it.

Also, in my experience, someone making those wages wouldn't be open shoving a week's worth of work. Something just does not fit.
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05-16-2018 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
I'm going to pin this post up on my wall at home so that when I'm a successful pro in a few months time, worth 5 figures and crushing 2/5 and 5/5/10 NL for $50+/hr, I can look back on this and laugh at all the people who doubted me.

And no, I'm nothing like those degenerates that play the slot machines. They're superstitious and I'm not. They have no plan and I do have a plan. They don't understand EV and variance like I do. They have no skills except the ability to push buttons, whereas I have strong poker skills. We're completely different people who just happen to be in the same casino at the same time.
Dude it's kinda hard not to troll/flame you given some of the stuff you say in yours posts but damn man... This is not going to end the way you think it will.

I however do wish you the best of luck because when you hit a real downswing (in live poker they can last for months) you're gona hate this game.
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05-16-2018 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by CactusJack
I'm leaning towards made up.
It's not made up at all - I've sat op a few times and had a mate see his plo gutshot hand.
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05-16-2018 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Eholeing
It's not made up at all - I've sat op a few times and had a mate see his plo gutshot hand.
Is he as terrible as looks from this thread?
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05-16-2018 , 03:33 PM
Straddling $300 only means one thing - you want to lose. A poker players psychological balance has to be ever-present, 24/7/365 or the show is over.
Whenever you play from now you will always go back to the $300 straddle and analyse it. Over and over. Time to stop wrestling with yourself and walk away from poker for good with the healthy profits you still have.
Your subconscious self wants a career. A new chapter awaits.
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05-16-2018 , 03:36 PM
Just spotted OP outside casino.

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05-16-2018 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Trumps hit
Straddling $300 only means one thing - you want to lose. A poker players psychological balance has to be ever-present, 24/7/365 or the show is over.
Whenever you play from now you will always go back to the $300 straddle and analyse it. Over and over. Time to stop wrestling with yourself and walk away from poker for good with the healthy profits you still have.
Your subconscious self wants a career. A new chapter awaits.
Very wise words. We all know that this OP simply doesent listen, but it can be others in similar situations that reads this passively that may be able to listen.

Take the 7K and have it as a economic safetynet. Thats a nice amount of money to have in your bank account and can be needed for x amount of reasons in the future. Maybe you want to rent a nicer apartment, and this can serve the predeposit wich is often 2 or 3 months rent. Maybe your washing machine goes down, or that you need new furniture of some sort. Or maybe you want to go to university and educate yourself, wich is expensive- then 7K in a bank account is very nice and youre better off than alot of other broke students.

With the degenerete ape**** tilt session you recently had is becoming very clear you have huge tilt issues and mental leaks- wich as other posters have mentioned is critical to master in order to become a strong longterm winning player. You need to be stable enough mentally to not lose your ****,if you cant-your gonna fail and go broke eventually. Its only a matter of time.
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05-16-2018 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Trumps hit
Straddling $300 only means one thing - you want to lose. A poker players psychological balance has to be ever-present, 24/7/365 or the show is over.
Whenever you play from now you will always go back to the $300 straddle and analyse it. Over and over. Time to stop wrestling with yourself and walk away from poker for good with the healthy profits you still have.
Your subconscious self wants a career. A new chapter awaits.
And in terms of an action plan:

Analyse your professional strengths and weaknesses
Marry those up with your career preferences
Make an appointment with a university careers counsellor (even if you are no longer enrolled, you have paid tuition fees in the past - they won't turn you away)
From this start discussion with your g/f and family - start building a loose action plan to get to the endpoint
Think wider; go off to places like Startup Victoria and get all the free info you can
Scour Eventbrite and weed out all the presentations you can, plenty around in Melbourne once you start looking ( and have a look at Coursera, Edx for free short uni courses)
As you gain momentum engage it more, let it take over your life (And start to see pizza delivery as a short term and temporary support mechanism)
Work on your self confidence; it's the main aspect holding you back
Your decisiveness will reap rewards; time to work out and address what you are so afraid of.
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05-16-2018 , 07:55 PM
When someone tries to succeed at something but faces obstacles, you don't tell them to give up; you tell them to overcome those obstacles.

Yes, I have some tilt/mental game issues that are holding me back, but the solution isn't to simply quit poker; the solution is to meditate, improve my health and leave the table only when I'm playing my D game or worse.

Also I just played a session today at 2/5 and won $977. I was put in a tough spot when I 4bet $250 with AA, got 2 callers, flop comes QJ9 two-tone and a guy donk jams $700 into me. I really considered folding there because I thought one of them can easily have a set, but I ultimately called because I didn't have the nut flush draw blocker and I figured that he could easily jam TT there (6 combos) which I'm slightly ahead of. He ended up having ATs (FD and OESD) and bricked out. Other player folded and I won a nice 2.1k pot. But I lost a chunk later from standard coolers like KK vs AA aipf and bricking out some draws.

I'm now $12,466 up at live poker this year.
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05-16-2018 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Eholeing
It's not made up at all - I've sat op a few times and had a mate see his plo gutshot hand.
Ok. Did he smell like pizza?
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