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05-15-2018 , 08:14 AM
If you split with your gf how will she survive financially? She can't even cover the rent.
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05-15-2018 , 09:07 AM
I own an Samsung S9...+1 agreeing with OP. Smartphones are a staple these days for most...WAKE the F#$K up LOL hey who wants to play on my 1985 Atari
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05-15-2018 , 09:12 AM
6betme... How many days are you grinding poker at crown? If your playing 2/5 you would easily make 25k between now and end of June, spend half of it and still have an 18.5k bankroll and shut every1 up Time to GRIND DUDE... time to pump out 70 hr weeks NO BS NO EXCUSES JuSt F$%king GRIND for LIFE
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05-15-2018 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Any2Cards2008
6betme... How many days are you grinding poker at crown? If your playing 2/5 you would easily make 25k between now and end of June, spend half of it and still have an 18.5k bankroll and shut every1 up Time to GRIND DUDE... time to pump out 70 hr weeks NO BS NO EXCUSES JuSt F$%king GRIND for LIFE
There's 6 weeks til the end of June. 70 hr weeks til the end of June is about 420 hrs. $25K in 420 hours is about $60/hr. Good luck with "easily" making $60/hr over 420 hours. Not too mention there's no way hes gonna play 70 hour weeks in the first place.

More delusions. This thread is chock full of them.
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05-15-2018 , 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Living in a van, are you kidding me? I can handle living in an overcrowded apartment for cheap rent, but I'll never resort to living in a van. That's a new low.
Living in a van is my dream.

A nice campervan that is. Something like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yjEWU00B9o&t
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05-15-2018 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by DianeAbbott
If you split with your gf how will she survive financially? She can't even cover the rent.
Well I don't plan to split with her. But if we did, I would at least have the decency to help her find new accommodation; most likely a share house out in the suburbs. I'd even pay her first month's rent if need be.

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Originally Posted by Any2Cards2008
6betme... How many days are you grinding poker at crown? If your playing 2/5 you would easily make 25k between now and end of June, spend half of it and still have an 18.5k bankroll and shut every1 up Time to GRIND DUDE... time to pump out 70 hr weeks NO BS NO EXCUSES JuSt F$%king GRIND for LIFE
I'm probably playing about 5.5 days per week on average. Most of them are just short sessions though like 3-4hrs. So I'd say I'm playing about 20hrs per week of live poker.

I'd like to play more, but my job is getting in the way. I'm currently working 5 nights per week and about 4-5hrs per night, so a total of 20-25hrs per week. It's starting to rain a lot as we head towards Winter, and when I come home from work soaking wet, I don't feel like playing poker those days, so it's really holding me back.

I'm heavily considering either cutting down on work shifts, taking a couple of weeks holiday leave, or even quitting my job altogether. I feel that my job is holding me back from achieving my full potential. But I don't want to make any drastic changes just yet, so I'll continue with my current routine for at least another month or two and then make a decision after that.
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05-15-2018 , 12:16 PM
Does your girlfriend even work? Do you think she will stay when you go broke in a few months? I know you both were broke before etc, but remember:

Nobody wants to keep riding the swings when they've been to Disneyland.

From what I've read ITT so far, your girlfriend is the driving factor behind your wannabe baller lifestyle, either consciously or subconsciously.
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05-15-2018 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Any2Cards2008
I own an Samsung S9...+1 agreeing with OP. Smartphones are a staple these days for most...WAKE the F#$K up LOL hey who wants to play on my 1985 Atari
You can have a decent phone without it being a top of the range smartphone. There are budget phones on Amazon for $10-$20. They make calls, texts, have features like calendars, alarms, file storage, can use the internet on a very basic level, even a half reasonable camera.

Still waiting for OP to give me reasons why a smartphone is essential.

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Originally Posted by Crown
Does your girlfriend even work? Do you think she will stay when you go broke in a few months? I know you both were broke before etc, but remember:

Nobody wants to keep riding the swings when they've been to Disneyland.

From what I've read ITT so far, your girlfriend is the driving factor behind your wannabe baller lifestyle, either consciously or subconsciously.
Exactly, you may have been broke before, but now she has already experienced being showered with expensive gifts. It's going to be immensely difficult for her to go from that, to living on cheap noodles when you inevitably go broke.

OP needs to look up "reference points" - part of a branch of economics called prospect theory. It explains perfectly why your gf will leave you once you go broke after treating her with so much expensive stuff.
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05-15-2018 , 01:04 PM
Nah, she won't leave him. Although living in a car might be a bridge too far.
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05-15-2018 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
A smartphone is not a "luxury"; it's an essential. You simply can't survive in the 21st century without one. That's like not having electricity at home. And since her last phone broke, it was essential that she gets a new one ASAP. There really wasn't much choice there. Money had to be spent. It was simply a choice of whether I spent the money outright or got a payment plan which involved heavy interest rates, and the former is definitely more +EV than the latter. What phone were you guys suggesting? A nokia brick? I think I did a good enough job bringing the cost down to $850 by buying an older version phone. I don't know why I'm receiving this much criticism for it when most of my friends go out and buy the latest model smartphones, even when they have significantly less money than I do.

Living in a van, are you kidding me? I can handle living in an overcrowded apartment for cheap rent, but I'll never resort to living in a van. That's a new low.
Hmmmmm $850 on a phone? I don't care if you were wildly successful already that's still a stupid amount of money to spend on a phone. Kids these days! Sheesh!

Here in America if you qualify for foodstamps you can get a free Obama smart phone. They don't have anything like that in Australia?

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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Thank you. I will.

The good thing about my girlfriend is that she doesn't play poker or have any understanding of the game, so being around her is a great way for me to tune out and relax. I read an article about going pro and one of the things it emphasised was keeping non-poker friends in your life to help reduce the likelihood of burning out, so my girlfriend is great for that.

The downside is that, since she doesn't understand what EV and variance mean (I've tried explaining these concepts to her many times but I often feel like they haven't really sunk in), she perceives me as a massive baller that's crushing the game and winning $100+/hr. I'm completely open with her about all of my finances. I tell her exactly how much I've won or lost after every session and what my bankroll is at any given moment. Sometimes even during the session I'll send her text messages and update her on how I'm doing. And since I've been on a massive upswing these past 3 months, I think that she severely overestimates my win rate and severely underestimates variance.

It's funny because I'm constantly being told in this thread how clueless I am about variance, but trust me, my girlfeiend is far less knowledgeable than I am on this subject. She basically believes that I could leave myself just $1000 and grind it up from there without any issues. So in her mind, these expenses are having no negative impact on my bankroll. All she sees is my bank balance going up and up each week, despite our spending, so she thinks that everything is okay and that we can easily afford this lifestyle.
Aren't you the one living the lifestyle of someone who's making $100+/hr with little to no variance though? Isn't that your fault? Why would she think otherwise?

GL OP.
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05-15-2018 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
Here in America if you qualify for foodstamps you can get a free Obama smart phone. They don't have anything like that in Australia?
There you go OP. Move to America and go on foodstamps.

Easy game.
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05-15-2018 , 04:07 PM
How about you grind full time and she takes over delivering Having a really bad downswing immediately after setting poker goals?
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05-15-2018 , 09:25 PM
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How about you grind full time and she takes over delivering Having a really bad downswing immediately after setting poker goals?
The ultimate solution, wow.

If she says no, you can break up without doubt and get that expensive phone back. Imagine how many hours and money it will save you when youre single.

If she says yes, she proves that she indeed loves you and supports you through it all.

She could even take you out for once.
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05-15-2018 , 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by KatoKrazy
How about you grind full time and she takes over delivering Having a really bad downswing immediately after setting poker goals?
OP's GF be like...

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05-15-2018 , 10:08 PM
Nah, I would go for the Obama phone and food stamps myself.

Vegas baby.
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05-15-2018 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
Nah, I would go for the Obama phone and food stamps myself.

Vegas baby.
OP's GF be like...

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05-15-2018 , 10:22 PM
"Nobody wants to keep riding the swings when they've been to Disneyland"
-Crown

best phrase ever lol
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05-15-2018 , 10:41 PM
[QUOTE=SpinMeRightRound;53828162]You can have a decent phone without it being a top of the range smartphone. There are budget phones on Amazon for $10-$20. They make calls, texts, have features like calendars, alarms, file storage, can use the internet on a very basic level, even a half reasonable camera.

You can not get a good phone for $20 in Australia period. The technology advancement in phones these days from 10 years ago is enormous. What 6betme could have done is go on a plan, it would cost about $50-$75 a month for 24months instead of $850 upfront, that would have definitely been smarter.

There is budget stuff for everything in life...could also live on the street; free rent, walk to casino; save on car expenses and eat out of a friggen garbage bin! LOL cmon mate wake up please....for most people having a good smart phone is just the norm in 2018. True, you don't need a Samsung or iphone and can get a knock off Chinese copy, those are still a couple hundred $.




6betme...do you deliver pizzas as your job?...if you work and play poker, you should aim to up your hours/bankroll playing poker before deciding to quit your pizza job...
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05-16-2018 , 05:43 AM
Yeah delivering pizzas is my job. I never intended it to be my permanent job though. I started this job at the same time as I started uni and I had planned to work this job for 4 years and then quit upon graduation as soon as I got a professional full-time job in either finance or as an actuary. That plan didn't work out so well haha.
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05-16-2018 , 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Any2Cards2008
You can not get a good phone for $20 in Australia period. The technology advancement in phones these days from 10 years ago is enormous. What 6betme could have done is go on a plan, it would cost about $50-$75 a month for 24months instead of $850 upfront, that would have definitely been smarter.

There is budget stuff for everything in life...could also live on the street; free rent, walk to casino; save on car expenses and eat out of a friggen garbage bin! LOL cmon mate wake up please....for most people having a good smart phone is just the norm in 2018. True, you don't need a Samsung or iphone and can get a knock off Chinese copy, those are still a couple hundred $.
You've said a smartphone is a staple and a norm these days, but you've not actually said why. Can you tell me what essential things a smartphone can do that a cheap budget phone can't?

You're taking it to extremes. Obviously you need to eat proper food and have a roof over your head. I'm referring to the superfluous, expensive rubbish that you don't need. You don't need expensive smartphones, you don't need to eat out at restaurants, you don't need a car unless you live in a rural area far away from any transport links (or you're insecure and need a car to attract women). If OP practiced some money management, he might be able to save up a proper bankroll, but people like him never change.
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05-16-2018 , 10:15 AM
If you have been using a budget phone that does the bare minimum for the last 10 years then yea I guess you wouldn't understand how tech is improving our lives. 100x increase in Happiness levels from all the different applications we can now use at the tip of our fingers, to multitasking different apps to work more efficiently whilst at work or out and about. Checking cryptos, sending a nude pic of 6betme GF to your 10+contact conversation in whatsapp, all whilst using google maps to help you navigate around an unexplored city. Fast forward 20 more years and we can show our kids interesting events that we have captured on our 12 MP (f/1.5-2.4, 26mm, 1/2.5", 1.4µm, Dual Pixel PDAF), phase detection autofocus, OIS, LED flash... USA mobile users on avg spend 4 hrs 15 mins per day on their devices...budget phones are for people on a budget. If you are 1 of masses and fit the 5hr+ category per day, time to get the best.

Cars are a staple as well(location dependent)...do not try and argue this point you will sound stupid

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05-16-2018 , 10:47 AM
Straddling to $300 at 1/3. Playing my F game.

Last night, I went to the casino after work. I knew before I even arrived that I was tired, wasn't feeling 100% and would probably be playing my B or C game, but I never expected to see myself playing my F game.

I had a beer because I was bored. Knock off drinks is how I justified it. My eyes kept closing at the table, so I had to go to the bathroom and splash my face with cold water in order to stay awake. When I came back, I was UTG so I just said "f**k it, $300 no look!"

I jammed my entire stack in before the cards were even dealt. I ended up having 87o and losing to an old guy that called me with QQ and held. I rebought and started opening 50% of hands. In one situation, I isolated on BTN with J6o and got 1 caller. I cbet the 984 flop, checked back the 2 turn and then potted it for $100 on the J river. This old guy x/jams $250 and I snap call. I don't even think about it for a second. Obviously he had a monster and I lost another stack there.

It didn't take me long to drop 1k at 1/3 NL and I was quick to jump to the 1/3 PLO table after that to chase my losses. Once again, I continued to play spewy and undisciplined. I would 5bet jam AJTT single suited preflop because it felt like the nuts to me when I was desperate to just gamble it up.

I ran super hot at PLO and managed to recover $500 of the lost money from NLHE. Then I almost lost it all. Here's what happened:

I started by calling a raise with a hand that should've folded preflop. Then I called a pot-sized bet on the flop with a naked gutshot. Not even a backdoor flush draw or anything. That's how much I wanted to gamble. I turned the nuts (only 8% chance of this happening), then put my stack in, only to find that my opponent had the same straight as me, except he had a set to go with it. I was getting freerolled in a 2.2k pot. If the board paired then I'd lose it all; otherwise I'd chop. Thankfully, river was a brick and I chopped that hand.

Shortly after that intense hand, I cashed out and ultimately left $564 down for the day.

I don't know why the f**k I have the urge to do dumb sh*t like this. This is the second time this month when I went ape sh*t and did something incredibly destructive (the other incident happened at 2/5 - I posted about it in this thread). Both times I managed to escape without too much harm, but I know that this isn't sustainable. I need to stop doing this or I could end up losing my entire bankroll in a day.

Currently $11,489 up at live poker. Bankroll is roughly 7k. I need to be sensible and never spew like this again.
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05-16-2018 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Any2Cards2008
If you have been using a budget phone that does the bare minimum for the last 10 years then yea I guess you wouldn't understand how tech is improving our lives. 100x increase in Happiness levels from all the different applications we can now use at the tip of our fingers, to multitasking different apps to work more efficiently whilst at work or out and about. Checking cryptos, sending a nude pic of 6betme GF to your 10+contact conversation in whatsapp, all whilst using google maps to help you navigate around an unexplored city. Fast forward 20 more years and we can show our kids interesting events that we have captured on our 12 MP (f/1.5-2.4, 26mm, 1/2.5", 1.4µm, Dual Pixel PDAF), phase detection autofocus, OIS, LED flash... USA mobile users on avg spend 4 hrs 15 mins per day on their devices...budget phones are for people on a budget. If you are 1 of masses and fit the 5hr+ category per day, time to get the best.

Cars are a staple as well(location dependent)...do not try and argue this point you will sound stupid

You failed your own analogy. A ferrari and a honda both deliver the essential function of a car, no?
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05-16-2018 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Straddling to $300 at 1/3. Playing my F game.

Last night, I went to the casino after work. I knew before I even arrived that I was tired, wasn't feeling 100% and would probably be playing my B or C game, but I never expected to see myself playing my F game.

I had a beer because I was bored. Knock off drinks is how I justified it. My eyes kept closing at the table, so I had to go to the bathroom and splash my face with cold water in order to stay awake. When I came back, I was UTG so I just said "f**k it, $300 no look!"

I jammed my entire stack in before the cards were even dealt. I ended up having 87o and losing to an old guy that called me with QQ and held. I rebought and started opening 50% of hands. In one situation, I isolated on BTN with J6o and got 1 caller. I cbet the 984 flop, checked back the 2 turn and then potted it for $100 on the J river. This old guy x/jams $250 and I snap call. I don't even think about it for a second. Obviously he had a monster and I lost another stack there.

It didn't take me long to drop 1k at 1/3 NL and I was quick to jump to the 1/3 PLO table after that to chase my losses. Once again, I continued to play spewy and undisciplined. I would 5bet jam AJTT single suited preflop because it felt like the nuts to me when I was desperate to just gamble it up.

I ran super hot at PLO and managed to recover $500 of the lost money from NLHE. Then I almost lost it all. Here's what happened:

I started by calling a raise with a hand that should've folded preflop. Then I called a pot-sized bet on the flop with a naked gutshot. Not even a backdoor flush draw or anything. That's how much I wanted to gamble. I turned the nuts (only 8% chance of this happening), then put my stack in, only to find that my opponent had the same straight as me, except he had a set to go with it. I was getting freerolled in a 2.2k pot. If the board paired then I'd lose it all; otherwise I'd chop. Thankfully, river was a brick and I chopped that hand.

Shortly after that intense hand, I cashed out and ultimately left $564 down for the day.

I don't know why the f**k I have the urge to do dumb sh*t like this. This is the second time this month when I went ape sh*t and did something incredibly destructive (the other incident happened at 2/5 - I posted about it in this thread). Both times I managed to escape without too much harm, but I know that this isn't sustainable. I need to stop doing this or I could end up losing my entire bankroll in a day.

Currently $11,489 up at live poker. Bankroll is roughly 7k. I need to be sensible and never spew like this again.
You are either a complete and utter degen moron, or this is all made up because you are an attention whore.
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05-16-2018 , 11:10 AM
Dont open jam blind, also I can see the reasoning behind isolating with J6o, but given the rake structure its better to just fold pre and wait for a better spot.
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