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06-27-2015 , 06:24 AM
Hello 2p2 Welcome to my thread


Hello everyone. I will give you all short introduction about myself, my goals and this thread.

I Created this thread because I have played poker for 5 years breakeven and beating only nl5. But I really love this game so much that I still play it and I even enjoy grinding nl2 or playing BE.. I know it's sick but Ive tried alot of things, jobs, sports etc in my life but nothing gives me same feeling like poker. I read some motivational books about life and everything and got on some youtube videos and then it really hit me... If I really like it and want it why shouldnt I give 100 percent of me I'm still young tho only 23 I got alot of time to play and study, I truly think I can achieve everything I really want... why not give it a try when I'm still young. Im from eastern europe, I have part time job and fulltime girlfriend so I aim around 70k hands zoom per month minimum from now on. Even making 1000 bucks a month from poker would be such a joy for me atm... but ofc my hopes are higher...

What I really think about poker?

I think that it should be hard ! I browsed alot of this forum unregistered and all I see is people whining about poker getting harder less fish etc.. I personally think that poker is competitive sport like boxing, football, basketball or whatever... It is just mind sport.. and sport should be hard. lets be real if we now take best poker player and best basketball player we see that field is 1000% harder in basketball(and i take skill vs skill aspect not that luck factor). I think there is alot of room to grow and get better in poker even for the top pros... Maybe it jus because im from eastern europe (that part what most of u here in 2p2 hate lol) and hard is usually everyday thang for us >D I mean money wise if I make like 450 bucks per month working and you whine because you are making less than 3.5k with poker than I just lol at you in my mind.. but let it stay...

I personally want to be good player, be the best, try to be the best.. Im not in for the money.. if you love what you do and you are good at it then money comes itself. that what wise guys say... and I believe it.. I dont want to be just another bumhunter just grinding this game only for money in his basement.. I want to be good at it vs the best players, I want to be good in every format of poker... But I start with 6max because I;ve played it all the time... My utopian goal would be playing nosebleeds live cash games in 10 years (because real poker is live... online is just easy way to play it at home). My really really hard goal to achieve would be beat nl500z 2bb/100..

I never before studied game! never. I only played and I feel like an idiot right now that I wasted 5 years.. but better late than never. Im glad I understand it now.. but the problem is I don't know how.

I do have hem2 but I dont have enough good computer currently to run it.
I know about flopzilla and pokerstove but havent used flopzilla never in my life and pokerstove like 2 times.. they seemed like boring programs for me when I was younger.. I was stunned by ziigmund guy who just pot pot pot and ship few milliz never used any programs and played drunk... well I was 19 then too... Now I understand what it takes to become good..

Well If someone is reading this thread can you give me some good advice - How to get better? How to study? Links how to analyze databse? Construct ranges? etcetcetc THANK YOU

I'm willing to do everything to get better since today.. Im up for strat talk, just pm me when you play nl10 or something.. I dont think I'm stupid player I think I over adjust I just need some little help where to look and what to improve and how to study and then I can go really hard by myself.. currently im just confused lol.

I have 7 weeks then my gf is back so I have really much time currently.. I could play like 4-6hours per day atm so I start now...


GOAL 1 grind enough money for computer that can support hem2


My current bankroll is 25 dollars and I will play nl2zoom on 4 tables hudless... My winrate in nl2 is around 8-9bb/100 without hud. I will also use my fpps on 235 satelite and grind use tournament dollars on spin and gos.


Thank you for everybody who is reading it. Please leave me tips how to improve my game what tools to use etc.. if possible provide links. im down for whatever, I want to beat nl10 before end of the summer atleast. and 50z before end of the year. also if u highly motivated micro zoom grinder hit me up im looking also for study groups/mates.
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06-27-2015 , 06:43 AM
Lets be more clear about my goal.


I currently use old comp what gf gave me when mine broke down so I im pretty sure HEm2 wouldnt run on this comp... So I need new comp and I need around 200 bucks for that

So my goal is to grind 200$ asap on nl2 I think im gonna pull 8-10 hour days.

when I get my new comp or hem2 running I will post my new goals.

inb4 comments about buy new comp. but hey im from eastern europe even 50 dollars is for me alot of money so no, i do not have money for new computer, hell i have 55 dollars for whole week to live.

Also I would like to note that I;m an animal, I can pull 10 hour days etc on nl2... and I don't just understand why you other grinders are so lazy... I dont mean nothing bad or disrespecting but I browse threads where some of you beat like 200z 4bb/100 and roughly play 70k hands a month... cmon. if I would be on your shoes with your skillset I would pull 230k hands per month or something like that same time playing like 50 hours live poker plus workouting and spending free time too >D

Last edited by ChuLo; 06-27-2015 at 06:54 AM.
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06-27-2015 , 09:32 AM
Woohooo, I tried to install HEM2 on this old and rusty computer and I had some success, not sure how it really works but like 0 database I 1 zoom tabled and hud was working nothing lagging, don't know really how it works with 4 tables and like 100k or so hands on database but I'm going to find it out soon! Tonight I try to play minimum 4k hands NL2.

BR 24$


GOAL1: 75$ for NL5 5bi shot. I'm still considering if I should buy new computer even if hem works on this one... this comp is like really stone age.



Anyway.. any tips for studying improving?? going to read through poker theory forum pretty much every topic and some hand history topics too for the start...
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06-28-2015 , 05:11 PM
Hello 2+2, played around 5k hands today + cahsed 15$ from this 250k KK zoom tournament, damn I felt like 25k was coming home today but 15$ is good too.. Got unlucky in 7$ spin n go, spinned 42$ and 2nd place but it's okay, variance lucky enough to get my 235fpp 11$ KQ vs A7s lol.

Br now 64$, 10bi more and I can shot nl5 with 5bi stoploss...

I feel myself like god in nl2 and like king in nl5, these are limits I beat... I don't know why I don't beat nl10... maybe I start to overplay, call too much, bluff too much.. cant tell yet cuz no database left from old comp and 0 hands in nl10 on this computer..

Also please tell me how to improve my game please like I asked 3 posts above, and if someone has study group or something on skype for nl10 then PM me or write here, big thanks.

And one question more, is nl10 and nl5 big difference in game? if I beat nl5 like 4bb/100 should I beat 10z with same playing style? or is it really so much different.. I really think its mindset problem for me no beating nl10... I think I over think and over play.

Restricted myself from everything only NL2 and up to 7$ sngs.

Im on sick grind mode but have 12 hours work tomorrow so I just hit another 3 hours before sleep!

good luck everybody !! (not vs me on the tables :P)
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06-28-2015 , 05:46 PM
One question just hit me ! I'm not really fan of spamming but I have to write it down.

probably it would be noob question for some of you but it's kind of hard for me.

Question: What to do when let's say 24/22 3bet 7% on the BTN 3bets me when I open let's say MP or CO KQ? KQs? AJs? AQo? AKo?

should I flat?fold?4bet? how do I calculate it what is the most EV move? when I call and flop comes nothing I'm oop vs regular who most definitely will cbet or might even check call to trick me... what I do when I miss, check fold? check call and bluff river? or should I 4bet pre? but why 4bet like KQo vs btn 3b? nothing worse never calls and I'm behind vs QQ KK AK AA etc... It's hard decision almost everytime when I face 3bet oop with semi good hand like mid PP, KQ, AJs, AK type of hands... let's say that zoom 10/25 is pretty nitty to and I never seen regs going busto with AQo or even AK preflop.

thanks if somebody wants to discuss it.
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06-30-2015 , 10:40 AM
Br now at 77$ and my restriction ends in 7 hours so then my maximum limit is NL5, meantime i will grind nl2.. alot of work irl too so can't put so many hours I wish. Hopefully soon back in nl10 so I can really start hard grinding and studying when I figure out what and how to study any tips please? cya.
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07-08-2015 , 04:43 AM
Hello everybody, long time no post. had some work to do. meanwhile I got my br to 208$ took nl10 shot and my weakest part is moving down when I once move up, had long session and -10bi, dropped to 100$ restricted nl10 and nl5 and cashouted 70$ for one thing I had to buy so now I'm back at 20$ br and nl2 but I beat it currently 12bb/100 EV so I just grind it back... also I tilted little bit in 7$ spin and god and I restricted them too!

question: what is the most useful +EV way to spend my FPP as goldstar??? one guy told me I just should collect fpp and spend them when I'm supernova and then buy 100k bonus but it would take like 1 year to get supernova because I won't get it this year and maybe when I'm nl50z someday I will make it... another way is play 235fpp sattellites but what to do with tournament dollars? My country restricted player to player deposit so I have to play sngs/mtts, I dont like MTT it's like lottery too much variance and I can't play spin ngos. I played 7s until today but i restricted its too big, I used to play 1x7 1x3 1x1 and I made 100$ from "rakeback" with 1 week.

What is the softest sng field to use my tournament dollars??? 1.50 6max turbo? hyper too big variance??

and also please give me some tips how to study, how to improve... just go through HH? I want to get better badly to start beating nl10 but I can't figure out what and how to study.

Thanks everybody starting nl2 now again.
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07-08-2015 , 08:33 AM
GL with your challange!

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I think that it should be hard ! I browsed alot of this forum unregistered and all I see is people whining about poker getting harder less fish etc.. I personally think that poker is competitive sport like boxing, football, basketball or whatever... It is just mind sport.. and sport should be hard. lets be real if we now take best poker player and best basketball player we see that field is 1000% harder in basketball(and i take skill vs skill aspect not that luck factor).
I agree with this! Still wish I could have played in 2010 tho!

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Question: What to do when let's say 24/22 3bet 7% on the BTN 3bets me when I open let's say MP or CO KQ? KQs? AJs? AQo? AKo?
I would 4b bluff KQo, 4bet gii Ak and call the others. but this depends on a how villain plays post flop and what his 3bet is otb.

10nlz is the hardest 10nl game going imo. I couldn't beat it 1 year ago and moved to euro sites and beat 10nl reg tables for 10bb/100. If u need money for a computer quickly i would not be playing zoom.
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07-08-2015 , 09:43 AM
Thank you for replying in this thread ^.

I got hem2 working on this comp and I don't use it for more than poker and internet so I don't need new computer yaay!

Glad to hear that it's toughest field in nl10 because I want to be best and get better so I want to start beating nl10z hardly. I dont really depend on poker income so it doesn't matter if I win or lose atm.. I want to make it ofc my biggest income because salary is here like 900 avg and you can make triple that in nl50z! but currently my goal is to grind back to decent roll and then beat nl10z...

I dont really get it how i Beat nl2z 12bb/100, 5z 4bb/100 (EV both) and I don't win in nl10z... I cant figure it out yet because I have lol sample on this comp 3k hand on 10z and I played so tilty and badly.. anyway if anyone has some advice or tips.. ABOUT STUDYING, HOW TO DO IT PROPERLY then point me in some direction. thank you everybody.

going to put in another 5k hands, done 4k today in nl2 already.


am I on right direction: is exploiting done like that I have big sample on somebody and I check his stats like if he fold to cbet 70% then I almost cbet my whole range. if he 3bet too much I start light 4b bluff. if he cbet too much then i start raising flop/calling lighter etc? how to get somebody ranges? like if he open from lets randomly say 25% co then I put 25% on pokerstove and check what hands he opens and then check his flop stats etc and start eliminating hands from his range etc... is it how it should be done? i mean studying, improving?

if i get enough big sample I should start checking how biggest winners in my limit play, study their game, check their stats, played hands etc..?

I really want to get better! but i just dont know where to start. I think I have solid ABC strategy but nothing more. Sometimes I check 50z , 200z threads here and I see sick plays like 3barreling with air, how are these plays calculated? how do they know that villain will fold OTR etc... I just want to get better at hand reading so bad, because I think it's the key. If somebody 3bet is 7% on the button does it mean he 3bet top 7% hands (ok lets throw in some 89s etc too)? should I then call with hands that are better than his 7% or let's say call with even worse cards if he is not cbeting enough OTF etc...

And should I start "making play" on 10z? like floating and then c-r OTT w air or something on some spots or should I just stick to ABC and only play for value and not bother myself if somebody is exploiting me or my game exploitable because it's such a small limit??

I know so many questions but I wish some answers from someone smarter... yes I would like to take coach ofc.. but if price ise like 120$ per hour it takes me like 60 hours of grinding nl2 for 1 lesson is it even worth it??


edit and one thing more: most money is lost on the blinds so should I start improving my play OOP on the blinds, if I lose less than others on the blinds then I should making more money overally because all other positions is +bb/100 but blinds are -bb/100 ?

I once bought how to play from the blinds 2014 by yourdoom havent really worked it through is it still good enough for 2015 games?

How does games change? i dont get it tbh, how can some concept be out dated? like its been +EV for 300 years to 3bet KK preflop that doesnt change with years... but what does change? isnt this game from the beginning been like u play your opponent not your cards? doesnt it mean its changing depending on your opponents not years etc...


sorry for such a long post but im curious.. if nobody answer im gonna make a new topic with all these questions somewhere in poker theory or noob questions because I want some advice.

Last edited by ChuLo; 07-08-2015 at 10:01 AM.
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07-15-2015 , 03:52 PM
I got 1 month from today to put in good volume and time, then I can play and study etc but not so much time because of work and other real life stuff to do.

I post some goals I want to achieve for myself with this 1 month time period:

* Start eating breakfast properly again! (used to eat 100% properly when used to do gym but after my injury I kind of eat healthy, I mean alot of protein, low carbs, but I skip breakfast pretty much and that's bad.. cuz breakfast no1 meal!!)
*150k hands poker
*Buy flopzilla!
*Read 2-3 books not poker related
*More positive thinking - I need to get my mindset right because everything starts from your mindset..
*Grind myself to NL5 and start reviewing sessions
*Bodyweight workout

Past few days I read alot of midstakes grinders pgc and I learned alot of how they think in general (not about strategy) and I found alot of good tips for uNL grinders and how to think about the game more and so... I think I got that 'aha' moment but not sure, let's see... I'm motivated and hungry and I'm trying to achieve all my goals I set for myself.

Maybe I wanted this all too fast just climb stakes asap and beat but I understand that it's no overnight process.. proper preparation for proper performance it's just the truth... I feel that I got it in me and I can do what ever I want I just need patience and discipline and these are areas I need to improve alot.. I got all that motivation and I dont think nothing is impossible but if I dont see like result in 5 days I might drop it and pick it back up 2 months later and repeat. I try other ways now and I'm going to make it work. working nonstop from today in all areas aint no days off, dont give a fk what you think. what's best for everybody else might not be always best for me, can't hand feed no sharks, lets get it.

first goals is to shot nl5 again @ 75$ br currently at 22$ or something, I assume I will make it in 5 days. going to spend my tournament dollars on 3$ spinners probably unless I get better idea what to do with them..

Tomorrow morning going to write all my goals on paper what I currently have and working out the best way how to achieve them. It looks like when I do something with pen n paper it works outs best for me. gl everybody going to put in some hours now.
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07-18-2015 , 02:55 PM
Just a little update.

started this challenge 3 days ago.. and I am also working so I'm currently proud of myself ahead of my goal 150k hands, got to put in the work when fresh, might take off some days later.. tho tryna give 100% from me as long as I have time to do it.



I will put 1k hands in before day ends.. and when day day 4 starts going to put in another 2k min then sleep and go to work and then ofc hit another few K hands...

Got another aha moment.. lit up my ocb and started grinding and I got it. I have to play best way every hand even tho it's nl2/nl5, used to just ultra grind like 1.2k hands per hour insta folding clicking buttons as fast as I could just to get as much hands per hour as I could(cuz I knew my winrates so faster the more money) and played my ABC game and all ranges constructed and I didnt exploit or adjust or do anything this cuz I was thinking it's only nl2/nl5 i won't adapt just play "bot style".. but when I smoked then I thought okay one time I play super exploitive style and think about every hand and ranges + fold more on the spots I knew i was beat but wanted to see if I really am etc.. (ofc some pre fold hands I didnt even bother to think just insta fold from BB like 84 I won't wait til it's my turn I just click auto fold when raise or whatever it is unless there is SB or BTN who fold to 3b 75%+) my 3bet increased from 5.7 to 9% in nl5 and like you see I got some results... (started it around 12k hands) also pulled like 18k hands with 2 days... almost BE @ nl2 with my 20$ br so I borrowed 95$ and deposited and made a promise all + I get over 75$ br I transfer to other currency to cash it back out because I need that money...

Currently I'm like something 60$ and 81€ so I need 9€ more to transfer and then I can cashout and continue with like 75$+ br + I got like 81% for 50$ stellar and also tryna aim atleast 1 some days 2 235fpp satty and hit some up from 3$ spinners (they soft but whan u can do if u lose 4/4 flips some day). Also I'm going to cash out some more money even when I get my br up to 125$ I want to cash out some to buy food and gift for gf and pay for 1 night in a hotel after that it will all stay for roll (probably want to cash out around 120$ more or so after I hit that 90€ in euro currency) so it's about 55 hours to play then I can continue and no cash outs anymore.. hopefully I will hit my br 300$+ and can start playing nl10 before these 30 days pass... I will take nl10 shot when my BR is 200$ + I've cashouted 120$ and 90€.

Im not telling anyone that I'm playing poker, not even gf, well she knows but she doesnt know that I take it seriously i just tell i fk around with few cents because its my favourite thing to do... noneed to bother someone to tell about your dreams when ur currently playing like 3$/h or so... but I will rise and I will get all your mfkin money no doubt... at the same time working and doing other stuff. I take no days off, grind hard because my whole life I didnt' have s*it, and currently 25$ is for me alot of money and I'm so ***** motivated and hungry that I'm going to crush the fk out of these ps zoom field in every **** level + I finally know how to analyze and thing about ranges etc so fk everybody. getting to like 50z would be dream half come true for me because 2k$ per month is sick balling money where I'm from and that's like nothing in poker world.. would be cool if i hit 180k+ hands while working half time + social life (have to cut it drastically atm like everybody callin where im what im doing and it's hard to answer or contact everybody... they will hustle me out to do some beers or smoke or sports or sumn but finally I understand whats best for everybody else and always best for me and I got to chase my dreams.

Last edited by ChuLo; 07-18-2015 at 03:04 PM.
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07-18-2015 , 03:00 PM
for example before when I had AA and I saw regular 3betting me I insta 4bet or ship when he 4b. Even when I knew he is reg and I knew his range and that he will fold to my 4b or call only with QQ or KK, now I'm playing better and trying to get max value every spot.

Or when I hit set like very dry board playing bot style I would just start shooting 75% pot even tho the board didnt hit his range very well or he wouldnt pay me off anything but xx, xx or xx, but now I check and let them spew and it really works... thinking about other people ranges, thinking about what would pay, how I would play this board with diff hand, how villain sees me (if he is like reg 23/20 I assume he little bit thinks) how I can fk villain to pay me off/fold his like A9 on A26 or sumn board.. etc. im really growing and getting better every day and I feel it. ofc I won't bother thinking about real fishes or some regs who can't fold their rag ace or sumn + I found way to exploit nits (alot of them in NL5)

I think I finally got it how to beat this micro uber stakes as good as possible (obv I have alot of leaks etc cuz I'm just learning... aint no 200z crusher telling me what to do... learning from my own mistakes, from other mistakes, trial and error. it's kill or be killed pretty much...
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08-01-2015 , 11:44 AM
hello, long time no update.

All goals going well except hands.. I got like 40k hands atm but should have 75k.. that's not too bad, better have great goals than small goals.. it's too much for me at the moment, haven't grinded long time and it's hard to put 5k hands everyday when I have some day 10 hour shifts plus it's summertime I have alot of social life so I just can't play all day. try to play more from now on but cant promise, some fellas got court dates coming up and I spend time with with my mans rather than play mini stakes and then be mad at myself not having fun with them when it might be too late.

pokerwise it's good, I never played as good as I'm playing currently... achieved kind of okay winrate (6.5bb EV bb/100 over 35k hands at nl5 (had 8bb but hit downswing wiht 400bb pots vs fishes so I'm still happy about my game).

Also paid back that 100$ I borrowed for nl5 so I got roll of 122$ and 8% til stellar 50$. TOday I'm going to take a little risk and play nl10 instead, and drop to nl5 when 75$ because I have around 2 weeks of time where I have more time to play so I rather try to hit my br up.. probably going to get like 50k min hands in september or so, alot of irl stuff to do. I try to grind this 50$ stellar today what is around 6k hands. and hopefully play it atleast breakeven. Im satisfied with my nl5 game and I wan't to start beating nl10... never done it before so it's very fun and interesting for me.

Reading books and eating healthy, I'm inspired and trying to work hard for all my goals, poker related and non poker related... one of the biggest semi short term goal would be beat nl50z atleast 2bb/100, that would get me alot of money with supernova.. like atleast 2.5k$ with rb and that is alot alot alot of money where I reside for average guy.. btw I'm shocked about how you guys talk about your average salarys in your country like 70k per year or something like that, and write about 500k not enough to live for rest of your life lols.. that would get me like 5 very good apartments with around 500$ per month rent and 5x500 is 2.5k what is enough to never ever work again ... well I think I'm blessed that we get here not so much money so poker even nl25 is like hitting a jackpot lol... but ofc my longterm goal isnt nl25 50 or even 100, I talk them millions ofcourse.. and live poker, that's real poker, I wish I could play some live but need like 5k br for that...

anyway now going to grind, hopefully I won't lose 5bi insta this sess and clear my 50$... aaah and I forgot, bad luck with my "rb" cashed 1 of 9 235fpp tourneys and lost all 4 3$ spin and gos, so 16 days and 0 rb.

dream life would be playing poker for living min 2.5k per month atleast and going to gym, eating healthy, little bit traveling and spending time with queen and guys.. I would probably could hit around 180k hands in zoom when full timing.. one day I will obv achieve it, everybody who works hard should easily beat nl50
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08-02-2015 , 03:56 PM
Bigger update for the lulz.

Yesterday shot?
It went bad, mental game weak, thinking I'm able to beat Nl10z when I'm clearly not able to beat it. nl5z doesnt equal nl10z, 10z is much much much different game, tilted, played bad, spewed etc. really was on big big tilt and keep playing it. playing underrolled and all these... busted my 122$ br, got 50$ stellar, busted this too. Borrowed 100$ busted this too til I had 40$ left..

2 days ago I had 122$ br and 8% to 50$, today I have 100$ debt, no stellar and 40$ br.



What next?


Keep going, learn from my mistakes. Take notes, write down clear goals and find a way how to achieve them. Don't rush.. it was idiotic I told my self I got 2 weeks, I have to take shot, I have to push myself and try playing nl10 tilted and underroled. did i run bad? yes, did i played bad hell yes. I wanted to get healthy br for 10z in 2 weeks (hoped for around 500 tbh so I could take a shot at 16z).

I burned out, I burned real bad. I busted it all and made it even worse.

THROWBACK...
How many times I've busted my bankroll in my lifetime? I played around 5 years on and off, well thanks to some idiotic 500z shots etc I think I'm down around 3-4k. never learned game, never wanted to. Everytime I had time I just played, no learning no thinking just play play play. I idiolized Ziigmund, never had hud, never learned, never watched HH (well atleast he told so)..



So i said, fk math, fk learning, fk books, videos just play and play and play until you make it. now I see, I have wasted 5 years doing it wrong. Most of you will tell now quit lolz u cant even beat 10z.. I can't quit anymore. 5 years every day I've dreamed of getting PRO, playing highest stakes. Play the highest stakes there ever has played. crush poker. be the best. be the best in holdem, omaha, stud etc, tourneys, be thest best live, online, play te highest stakes with celebrites... every day waking up with almost nothing in my pockets but the dream. only dream keeps me going on. even tho for 5 years I even haven't achieved beating NL10.



FOLLOW MY DREAMS. PERIOD

But I can't quit, if I quit there's no dream. It's everything I ever wanted but I was too arrogant I didnt study, didnt try to get better just play. and I even didnt change my play style just thinking "bad luck atm will turn over soon" etc. I just can't quit now, I have to do it the right way this time, I always wanted to get it asap thinking about getting older and then having money wasnt so fun idea while doing it younger... Im still young tho Im not even my mid 20s yet. I still got time but only now I understand it. Ofcourse I wanted to be baller in teens and so I ignored everything how to get better but just pushed myself to play... dreaming dreaming dreaming.

Im older and wiser now, I know what my mistakes were, I know that playing underrolled cost me 5 years, I never had more than 30 buy ins tho.. always shotting with 10-15 because like they say "even the baddest fish run hot sometimes" every time I took 5-6bi shot I thought about that sentence, yet never I achieved that heater, only once but in nl100... so it wasnt that life changing tho... I even played some nl2k losing 5k pot and my whole br set v set vs some stars pro, I was devasted, started grinding nl2 3 days later. few days passed and I felt healthy again... why? because I had my meaning for life back, poker.. only way out.. you see poker for me is like being NBA player or rapper for some young kids somewhere in the suburbs of chicago..

You will call me degen, noob, fish, idiot.. I can live with that, I don't care. I got one goal in front of me and nobody will stop me..


What next bro?!

How to proceed? Well good news is that I beat nl2 and nl5... what I lack is time... I have too much life outside of poker I have to take care of.. I have alot of friends to spend time with, I got amazing girl who I spend alot of time with also I have a job... I wish I was 18 again so I could just hit 200 hours per month for 1-2 year straight and learn like 50 hours per month and play with healthy roll not 20-30bi.. I can't do it anymore.. thats why I took that shot to make it asap. but like i wrote few weeks ago you just cant make it overnight, it's possible without hitting big tournament.. proper performance needs proper preparation... yep my own words yet I played underroled making excuses and busting my bankroll.. so what is the key? how to do it..

discipline, discipline, discipline... I lack it and alot. I have to get stronger mentally.

I need to write out clear plan for my work and follow it no matter what, never talk myself out of it and stick with it. Let's be real, I won't play 200z or 100z this year.. nop. I might!! beat nl10z this year.. it's not so unrealistic maybe even 16z... Also I don't care about money only. I wont change site, I wont bumhunt I want to be the BEST that's my desire, because if you are best you will get paid like the best in the end.

ofcourse I feel sad/mad atm... Ive done it 4 times this year. build up br in nl2 and nl5 then bust it in a day or two in 10z or 25z.

First time I build 3 months my roll from 25$ to 300$ then busted it.

second time took lil break, then built it from 50 to 200 or sumn, busted in 1 day.
then ran 25 to 350 with 3 weeks, busted it in 2 days.
then ran 50 to 250 and busted in 1 day
then ran 50 to 200, dropped down to like 30$, reloaded 90$, grinded 2 weeks, paid my debt. almost busted br, reloaded 100$, and now dropped to 40$... think about it almost 8 months, and still in the same place where I was 8 months ago...



Okay I write down my plan for myself:


*40$-75$ = NL2z

*75-300$ = nl5z

*300$+ NL10z and play it aslong as I have atleast 100k hands with EV winrate of 4bb/100

When I hit 300$ bankroll make another 35$ and buy FLOPZILLA.

use FPP's for 235fpp tourneys and play 3$ spinners with that.


Will I start studying at the moment? - NO, should I? maybe...

Why I won't start studying at the moment? - Because I'm satisfied with my 2z and 5z winrate, I beat those limits and I just want to spend every second of my free time playing as much hands as possible to achieve my 300$ br for another 10z shot.

When I start studying and how will I do it? when I hit 300 bankroll and buy flopzilla.

HOW WILL I STUDY?

*Go through my nl10z hand historys after/before session or some other random time of the day. Go through all pots (except handed I folded pre) and run em through flopzilla and stove to put guys on ranges and see what would be the best move... and buy some other kind of poker software for finding out equity and best moves

*buy 1-2m hands of 10z so I would have edge vs opponents and their stats without they having mine.

*Check who is the biggest winners in this 2m hands and study their game, go through their HH, check their stats and try to understand how they think.

*Always play my best game and not think about money. Try to play Agame always without short term results.

*Don't check cashier/graph while playing(currently I update it after every pot I win.. yes it's bad but I can't get away from this habit I've had it for 5 years.

*Read all good regs threads on 2+2 and try to understand how they think and find good posts they have made everything about poker related, mindset, tips tricks or whatever... and ofcourse hand history and thought process (but only those who play my limit or one higher)

*Watch videos I've bought 2 years ago when I was on my nl100 heater, work them through with paper and pen multiple times.. find some info from there and things I should study more on my own.

*try to perfect every aspect of my game from preflop ranges to donkbeting, 3b ranges etcc



I will take today off because I'm mentally dead.. another bad day in my life another busted roll, another dream died for seconds but now I made new plan for my poker and I will stick to it...

How long will it take it? to achieve my 300$ bankroll for starters...

Who knows.. but I can assume. 40 to 75 is 35$, I make 2$ per hour in NL2, that is 20 hours. 75 to 300, I make 3$ per hour in Nl5 that is 75 hours, total 95 hours. Plus my rakeback from sattellites, who knows how much I make, might hit 9k jackpot might lose 40 of them in a row.. also I could hit some sick heater and make it in 50 hours or I can hit BE/DS and make it 150 hours... but let's say around 95 hours.

My time is limited, so every second I spend at home I play poker, I don't scroll facebook, I don't scroll instagram, I don't watch movies. I constantly play play play until I hit my 300 bankroll + flopzilla. then I will play play play and study study study, take notes..


Is that all? hell no.

I got life outside of poker too.

I need to complete few mindset books for poker. also I'm reading napoloen hills grow and think rich which I believe in.. I want to complete it and follow all steps it says... (lol imo im like 5 years only thinking about myself having money etc still nothing happened.. but I guess my subcounscious mind doubts so it cant come yet) So make my mind believe 100% that I will be best poker player in the world. And I will set dates etc work that plan too.

Get over my injury and start working out to achieve my dream body and strength. Eat pure, calculate calories intake etc everyday (started doing it like a week ago so it's going good). Eat only healthy food so I could stick with 12% bodyfat all year long, maximum 1 cheat meal with my girl once a week(she has same goal so it's good).

Read books about mind, success, money etc. do some odd excersises for mind that I won't currently reveal. root out all negative thinking in life. trying to achieve that state where I never get any negative thought or when I get insta kill it and replace with positive thoughts.

Medidate, yoga, stretch. make the best out of my body. tbh I really hate fat people, I hate myself too (im not fat but average looking body... and average is S*IT) man shouldnt look average, man should be like warrior from movie 300 or something like that).

probably do something like that:

hit 3 months straight gym after I recover from my injury, eat good, take supplements and work out 4 times a week and after 3 months when I build my base start taking testosterone.. why should I waste 3 years building a body I could get with "steroids" in 6 to 9 months... testosterone does nearly have zero side effect and gains are massive (im not taking it from random I know guys whos on it and it's kind of cheap too like 350$ for 12 weeks)... ofc when I get big money I will buy growth hormone what hollywood actors take to get they bodies for movies... fk that natural shtt I just want to get good and strong body asap. but thats in far far future.

what more? ahh. keep my girl happy all the time, I'm really good at it so I won't get lazy I keep her good and won't let get relationship get dull... also take care of my guys, send money to jail and be out there for everybody who needs help.. ofc some time turn up with them guys we more like family not friends... streets made us family long time ago cuz that's where I spent most of my life, cuz being at home was boring so we turned up out there and did some crazy stuff... well we still do sometimes but I have to stick with my dream cant get involved with too much stuff no time for court dates and no money for lawyers.. But sometimes when we get off the drink or other s*its Im wilding like 3 days and 4th day I'm dying home so it's like wasted 4 days = atleast 15k hands + nutrition and everything gets a serious hit... so I try to minimize it as much as possible but I still cant fold for life.. they my guys and I run with them good or bad.

I'm also pro cannabis so I like to smoke alot, smoking also gives me inspiration and keeps me going when I feel tired of this breakeven grinding for 5 years.. it is really to take another step forward. only idiot will wait for another outcome doing the same thing over and over... yep I played same style 5 years but now I'm really into studying..

and most important things:

DONT PLAY UNDERROLED!!!!!

STUDY YOUR GAME AND PUT PEOPLE ON RANGES, TRY TO PLAY EVERY HAND THE BEST WAY THERE IS POSSIBLE

Like will smith said in some movie: “You don’t try to build a wall. You don’t set out to build a wall. You don’t say ‘I’m going to build the biggest, baddest, greatest wall that’s ever been built.’ You don’t start there. You say ‘I’m gonna lay this brick as perfectly as a brick can be laid,’ and you do that every single day, and soon you have a wall.”

That goes for poker too, wall is big earnings and every hand is a brick.. so I just have to play every hand as perfectly as it can be played..


everybody love graphs, so I must give you few... PLEASE COMMENT ON MY 10z GRAPH Is it even possible to lose that much ?


NL2z:



NL5z:



NL10z:


thank you for your time who read it. I will keep going forward, I will achieve my goals. I improved in alot of areas.. I do played my best game ever I've played 2 days ago in 5z, I do played my worst games in months I played in 10z... I learned alot of new things, alot of managing my anger and not going to 1bi shot nl200z... but now I learned what I think was the last step before first step of succes... BANKROLL MANAGMENT IS REALLY THE KEY GUYS.
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08-06-2015 , 12:17 PM
Im mentally not ready for it yet. I take few weeks to few months off... not really happy about grinding my br up from 15$, rather chill out few months collect money and depo to play safe rolled nl5. I'll be back tho.
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