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Grinding up a LHE roll, from .90 Grinding up a LHE roll, from .90

07-29-2010 , 08:31 AM
After about four years away from playing poker as a serious hobby, I caught the bug again. I used to have decent sized live and online bankrolls, but after stopping playing for 4 years or so, most of that got cashed out/spent.

A cardroom recently opened up by me, so I'm saving up cash for a live play bankroll.

I also discovered $6.90 in my old PokerStars account, and decided to see if I couldn't use it as an experiment in bankroll management. My goal is to just see how much I can run it up, using the rule that I move up when I have 300BB for the current level + 100BB for the level above. Dropping down if I ever go below 300BB for the level below.

I started at .02/.04 LHE. After about 3.5k hands, I hit $22 and moved up to .05/.10.

After about 1k more hands, it's at $26.

Using the trial version of poker tracker, and even with this small sample, it has helped me adjust my play and plug a couple major leaks.

Next milestone: $30, to be "fully" rolled at .05/.10 with 300BB.
Next next milestone: $50, when I can move up to .10/.20.
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07-29-2010 , 09:35 AM
Hey fellfold, nice job moving through .02/.04! I think moving up to .05/.10 a bit early was probably a good move, that's a pretty soft game as well. Definitely be a bit more cautious when you start getting into .25/.50, .50/1.00 and beyond. From my experience this is where you start to see some real changes between the levels.

Good Luck!
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07-29-2010 , 11:40 AM
Oh I was looking for someone to ask for advice on bankroll management, looks like your the person!

kgr00
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07-30-2010 , 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by kgr00
Oh I was looking for someone to ask for advice on bankroll management, looks like your the person!

kgr00
For limit or no limit? I haven't played much no limit seriously, so I can't say much about that, other than to say I've read a lot of conflicting opinions. I know 20BI is somewhat standard advice there, but from threads I've read, I'm getting the feeling that that figure is too low for your average tilty/breakeven player.

For limit, having a 300BB is pretty standard advice, and I think is a reasonable figure to avoid playing scared money and also not go broke on a bad run of cards. I think the more standard advice is to not move up in levels until 300BB, but I'm a bit impatient and want to be a bit aggressive about moving up, hence my 300+100 strategy.

When I played a lot years ago, I was probably EV breakeven (or slightly losing/slightly winning) and having between 200-300BB kept me in action. One thing that probably ******ed my progress was (1) not using tracking software seriously and (2) moving up too quickly with windfalls from tournament wins or playing under-rolled so I'd get trapped at levels where I was a losing/breakeven player.

Was at $31 after the end of today's session, so I'm at 300BB+ for my current level.

Next goal: $50 and then move up to .10/.20.
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08-03-2010 , 04:33 AM
$36.29 after today's session. If I can keep this up (and not play too much Starcraft 2), I'll be at .10/.20 by the end of the week.
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08-03-2010 , 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by fellfold
$36.29 after today's session. If I can keep this up (and not play too much Starcraft 2), I'll be at .10/.20 by the end of the week.
Damn SC2! DAMN IT! . Anyway GL.
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08-03-2010 , 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by fellfold
If I can keep this up (and not play too much Starcraft 2), I'll be at .10/.20 by the end of the week.
hmm, tough spot
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08-11-2010 , 07:37 AM
First session since the last post. Some drama in my life since my last post. The restaurant I was working at unexpectedly closed, so I figured I should avoid playing so I don't tilt off my roll in some creative way. Since I'm not exactly relying on this bankroll to pay my bills (lol), not really a scared money situation anyway.

Up to $44.23 playing .05/.10. As per my bankroll rules moving up when I hit $50.
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08-12-2010 , 05:50 AM
Time to move up!

Bankroll $50.40
After 2,666 hands at .05/.10, 6,074 hands total
BB/100 at .05/.10: 10.78

Next two milestones:

$60 bankroll, to be 300BB at .10/.20
$110 bankroll, to be 300BB at .10/.20 + 100BB at .25/.50 and moving up
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08-13-2010 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by fellfold

Next two milestones:

$60 bankroll, to be 300BB at .10/.20
$110 bankroll, to be 300BB at .10/.20 + 100BB at .25/.50 and moving up
Hit the first milestone after yesterday's sessions.
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08-13-2010 , 12:21 PM
GL with this.
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08-13-2010 , 07:58 PM
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GL with this.
Thanks!

I put in a nice 4-5 hour session today. Was pretty stagnant for the first three or so, then I went on a nice little heater after opening up a third table.

So far, I am just two-tabling, occasionally three tabling.

Bankroll up to $81.
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08-14-2010 , 03:55 AM
Nice, trying to do the same. Keep up the good play.
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08-21-2010 , 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by pokercapital
Nice, trying to do the same. Keep up the good play.
Thanks!

Hit $110, which was my milestone for moving up to .25/.50.

Winrate of 7.81 BB/100 over 3,670 hands. Presumably, I might have hit $110 sooner if I hadn't hit a 50BB downswing which ended up resulting in a 1k hand breakeven stretch when I first hit $100. Still, not complaining as this winrate is great.

Next milestones:

$150, which is 300BB for .25/.50.
$250, which is 300BB for .25/.50 + 100BB for .50/1.00
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08-22-2010 , 05:31 PM
Having a good weekend so far. Already ran the bankroll up to $217. .50/1.00 might not be so far away.

I am around 400VPP away from getting Silver Star by the end of the month. These should rack up faster once I move up as well. Goal for month?
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08-22-2010 , 10:03 PM
good progress so far, keep up the grindin and post your updates as you have been doing!

$40 more to go!
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08-24-2010 , 12:32 AM
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good progress so far, keep up the grindin and post your updates as you have been doing!

$40 more to go!
Thanks!

Hit $250.62 at hand 2385. 11.53 BB/100 for .25/.50. Time to move up! This was actually the quickest I've moved up. I think putting in a long session Saturday night/early Sunday helped, as there were plenty of weak weekend players.

Next milestones:

$300 for 300BB at .50/1.00
$500 for 300BB at .50/1.00 and 100BB at 1/2.

This is also a bit of a relief, since I've finally graduated out of the "micros" tab to the "lows" on PokerStars. Bigger relief is that there are no more 2.5x increases between levels. In fact, from 2/4 to 3/6 and 3/6 to 5/10 the gap is smaller than 2.

I am presuming the 10ish BB/100 wont be sustainable as I go much higher, but if I can make even 4 or 5 BB/100 at 3/6 or 5/10 that is a pretty decent hourly.

Some brag graphs:

In BB



In $$



It is pretty awesome how moving up in limits makes linearish growth in BB seem like exponential growth in $$.
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08-28-2010 , 08:08 PM
I did manage to hit Silver Star, but after 2,700ish hands at .50/1.00 my winrate is a pretty lousy 1.69 BB/100. I'm just over 300BB at this level, after getting a $10 VIP reward, but it has mostly felt breakeven. I think I made an adjustment coming into today that let me finish the session over the 300 mark.

Exhausting.
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08-30-2010 , 12:15 PM
I am currently on the same sort of mission. I started with 300BB at $0.10/$0.20 on Aug 11th and have it up to about $135-$140. Waiting to make the transition to $0.25/$0.50 at $150. My graph is nowhere near as spectacular as yours! Great work! I do remember seeing you at a few of my tables, I prefer the multitabling mania (16 or so tables) which doesn't provide me with a stellar winrate but I enjoy it. Perhaps I will post some stats for entertainment purposes, Good luck at $0.50/$1.00, hopefully I will see you there.
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08-30-2010 , 01:02 PM
fellfold whats ur ps name ? i wana rail

GL though
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08-30-2010 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by LusciousLP
I am currently on the same sort of mission. I started with 300BB at $0.10/$0.20 on Aug 11th and have it up to about $135-$140. Waiting to make the transition to $0.25/$0.50 at $150. My graph is nowhere near as spectacular as yours! Great work! I do remember seeing you at a few of my tables, I prefer the multitabling mania (16 or so tables) which doesn't provide me with a stellar winrate but I enjoy it. Perhaps I will post some stats for entertainment purposes, Good luck at $0.50/$1.00, hopefully I will see you there.
Hey LusciousLP! I remember seeing you at the tables. Definitely remember you as one of the better players. After 3k hands (which is a fair number of hours when you 2-3 table), I am just about even at .50/1.00. So I am doing a bit of soul searching trying to figure out what adjustments I need to make, since my preflop stats are similar to previous levels.

What sort of setup do you use to multitable? Do you use multiple sites? I am working off a 13" laptop, so after more than 3 tables it would get a bit hairy.

But sticking with full ring, limit massively multitabling doesn't really seem possible once you get up to the mid-stakes. Just not enough tables on Stars.
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08-30-2010 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by xIamAllinx
fellfold whats ur ps name ? i wana rail

GL though
Thanks! I use fellfold on ps.

I have a friend visiting from out of town and some job interview stuff to focus on, so I will probably play less until after labor day. I am having fun messing around on the HORSE tables lately, though. Call me sick, but I love razz. And mixing in other games seems to make players fishier holdem players.
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08-30-2010 , 03:57 PM
Sick chart. Keep it up.
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08-30-2010 , 05:15 PM
I mostly work off of a 17" laptop, using tableninja and allsnap so my tables are stacked and well aligned. They take up about 3/4 of my screen with the stars lobby aligned on the left so I can table select (if at all possible multitabling). I don`t use the mouse much, the action hotkeys with tableninja are fantastic to handle the chaos. I play just on stars, have an inactive full tilt account.
I agree with the limited table selection, it is unbelievable the difference between short handed and full ring. Tried shorthanded, not really my style. The main reason for multitabling is of course for the VPPs, my goal for September is to achieve Gold status.
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