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03-05-2013 , 12:29 PM
We made it to Borgata. It kind of reminds me of Venetian. I should be able to log a ton of hrs here.

March 2013

Total hours played- 23
Average hourly winrate- $7
Winnings- $151

2013 YTD

Total hours played- 264
Average hourly winrate- $2
Winnings- $516
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03-06-2013 , 01:27 AM
Aloha

Hey there eager thread-followers (all three of you). I just played my first NL session of the year, so it seemed like a good time for a post. As I mentioned, since January, I've just been playing the 15/30 limit at the Oaks, which is going fine - I'm beating the game for more than a Big Bet p/h, which seems good considering I still feel like I'm learning limit to some degree. And the conveniences of being able to call ahead to get on the list (which they only allow for 15/30 and 30/60), and having the game 5 minutes form my house are huge.

But today I found myself down at SF State, so stopped in at Lucky Chances. It took me a little while ago to re-adjust, but the things proceeded in regular form. I forgot just how soft those games are, and now I feel like I have the hours in to safely say that yes, I think that 3/5 game is more profitable than the 15/30. But the commute still breaks it in the favor of limit, at least for my lifestyle at the moment. Though I hear a rumor from a reliable source that the Oaks has put in an application for a 400 max spread limit game with 2/3/5 blinds and a max buy-in of 1k. This would be awesome, and I suspect would effectively kill the 200 max, and draw a good portion of that pool into the 400 max, which would be awesome. AND, assuming that the vast majority are still buying in for 100bb or less, it would play like a real NL 98% of the time (I can count on two hands the number of times I remember someone making a raise of much more than $400 at the 3/5 game, and even in most of those cases, it's usually a wierd over-shove where a raise of $400 would have the same effect).

So if that game actually goes forward, I'd be in the proverbial cat-bird seat, actually able to choose between the 400 max and the 15/30, depending on which game looked juicier. Fingers crossed.

Anyway, onto the pokers:
I played three hands in rapid succession all against the same player, who I had typed as very good and aggressive, and think I've played with before, but couldn't remember when.

Hand 1- Good player has just lost the previous hand and is possibly a bit tilted. He straddles, I'm in the SB with AQo. Five people call the straddle (gotta love this game!), and I just complete, hoping to induce a steal from the Straddler, who I think between slight tilt and this money being offered up to him on a platter is going to raise here with like 70% of his range. BB calls, and Straddle

SHOVES. For 80bb. Whoah. Weird. I was expecting a raise, but not expecting that. It folds back to me, and I insta-call. I just don't see him doing that with the part of his range that crushed me, and if it's a flip the $60 of dead money in the middle makes my call +EV. But, really, I think I'm ahead here a ton.

It turns out I'm not. He says he's got a small pair, as the cards come out. I spike an Ace on the river. Thank you very much.

A few rounds later I seat-change, as this good player, is also sitting to the right of a friend of his, who may or may not be good, but is very aggressive and incredibly annoying.

So I'm in the MP with 9d7d. The good players opens UTG+1, I think, to $20. One caller in front of me. I call, someone calls behind.

Flop 9s8s6d. A monster.

He bets out $30, I make it $100. I could just call here, since I have a huge draw, but I don't mind extracting some value from the flush draw, and I've got decent equity against an over-pair.

He makes it $300, with $300 behind (I cover). Huh. Didn't see that coming. Now I'm thinking it's very likely an overpair, but with the $300 in the middle, I'm committed to this pot. I shove, he calls.

The third spade turns. He declares the nuts (he had AJss, which it turns out is like 49% against my hand). So essentially two flips in a row, we each win one.

Then the third hand. Effective stacks about $400.

I posted in CO. Same guy raises it to $20 UTG. I call.

Flop q99ss. Sweet.

He leads $30. I make it $80. I'm hoping this looks like I'm playing my flush draw aggressively and maybe I can get action from a Q or an over pair. But then he makes it $200. And I have $200 behind. Which totally sucks. If he shoves I can instacall, but his raise-sizing says "I want you to shove the rest in, but I don't want to scare you off." On the other hand, the only hand that makes sense here is QQ. I'm crushing everything else in his UTG raise range I thought (I was wrong). Is there anyway I can fold this? I really feel like I'm beat here from the bet-sizing and our history, but I call like a fish. He tables q9dd, leaving me drawing dead.

Immediately after that I get moved to the main game, and manage to claw myself back up from down 2 buy-ins to a +$600 win. Not bad for a days work, all things considered.

My wife is reading over my shoulder and says I sound like a douche-bag. Probably everyone on 2+2 does, to a civilian. But maybe me more than most...
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03-06-2013 , 01:39 AM
Excuse me sir this isn't your thread. LOL
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03-06-2013 , 01:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pure_aggression
We made it to Borgata. It kind of reminds me of Venetian. I should be able to log a ton of hrs here.

March 2013

Total hours played- 23
Average hourly winrate- $7
Winnings- $151

2013 YTD

Total hours played- 264
Average hourly winrate- $2
Winnings- $516
Welcome to Atlantic City!
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03-06-2013 , 02:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by buckminster1
Aloha

Hey there eager thread-followers (all three of you). I just played my first NL session of the year, so it seemed like a good time for a post. As I mentioned, since January, I've just been playing the 15/30 limit at the Oaks, which is going fine - I'm beating the game for more than a Big Bet p/h, which seems good considering I still feel like I'm learning limit to some degree. And the conveniences of being able to call ahead to get on the list (which they only allow for 15/30 and 30/60), and having the game 5 minutes form my house are huge.

But today I found myself down at SF State, so stopped in at Lucky Chances. It took me a little while ago to re-adjust, but the things proceeded in regular form. I forgot just how soft those games are, and now I feel like I have the hours in to safely say that yes, I think that 3/5 game is more profitable than the 15/30. But the commute still breaks it in the favor of limit, at least for my lifestyle at the moment. Though I hear a rumor from a reliable source that the Oaks has put in an application for a 400 max spread limit game with 2/3/5 blinds and a max buy-in of 1k. This would be awesome, and I suspect would effectively kill the 200 max, and draw a good portion of that pool into the 400 max, which would be awesome. AND, assuming that the vast majority are still buying in for 100bb or less, it would play like a real NL 98% of the time (I can count on two hands the number of times I remember someone making a raise of much more than $400 at the 3/5 game, and even in most of those cases, it's usually a wierd over-shove where a raise of $400 would have the same effect).

So if that game actually goes forward, I'd be in the proverbial cat-bird seat, actually able to choose between the 400 max and the 15/30, depending on which game looked juicier. Fingers crossed.

Anyway, onto the pokers:
I played three hands in rapid succession all against the same player, who I had typed as very good and aggressive, and think I've played with before, but couldn't remember when.

Hand 1- Good player has just lost the previous hand and is possibly a bit tilted. He straddles, I'm in the SB with AQo. Five people call the straddle (gotta love this game!), and I just complete, hoping to induce a steal from the Straddler, who I think between slight tilt and this money being offered up to him on a platter is going to raise here with like 70% of his range. BB calls, and Straddle

SHOVES. For 80bb. Whoah. Weird. I was expecting a raise, but not expecting that. It folds back to me, and I insta-call. I just don't see him doing that with the part of his range that crushed me, and if it's a flip the $60 of dead money in the middle makes my call +EV. But, really, I think I'm ahead here a ton.

It turns out I'm not. He says he's got a small pair, as the cards come out. I spike an Ace on the river. Thank you very much.

A few rounds later I seat-change, as this good player, is also sitting to the right of a friend of his, who may or may not be good, but is very aggressive and incredibly annoying.

So I'm in the MP with 9d7d. The good players opens UTG+1, I think, to $20. One caller in front of me. I call, someone calls behind.

Flop 9s8s6d. A monster.

He bets out $30, I make it $100. I could just call here, since I have a huge draw, but I don't mind extracting some value from the flush draw, and I've got decent equity against an over-pair.

He makes it $300, with $300 behind (I cover). Huh. Didn't see that coming. Now I'm thinking it's very likely an overpair, but with the $300 in the middle, I'm committed to this pot. I shove, he calls.

The third spade turns. He declares the nuts (he had AJss, which it turns out is like 49% against my hand). So essentially two flips in a row, we each win one.

Then the third hand. Effective stacks about $400.

I posted in CO. Same guy raises it to $20 UTG. I call.

Flop q99ss. Sweet.

He leads $30. I make it $80. I'm hoping this looks like I'm playing my flush draw aggressively and maybe I can get action from a Q or an over pair. But then he makes it $200. And I have $200 behind. Which totally sucks. If he shoves I can instacall, but his raise-sizing says "I want you to shove the rest in, but I don't want to scare you off." On the other hand, the only hand that makes sense here is QQ. I'm crushing everything else in his UTG raise range I thought (I was wrong). Is there anyway I can fold this? I really feel like I'm beat here from the bet-sizing and our history, but I call like a fish. He tables q9dd, leaving me drawing dead.

Immediately after that I get moved to the main game, and manage to claw myself back up from down 2 buy-ins to a +$600 win. Not bad for a days work, all things considered.

My wife is reading over my shoulder and says I sound like a douche-bag. Probably everyone on 2+2 does, to a civilian. But maybe me more than most...
Who is this guy?
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03-06-2013 , 02:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by buckminster1
Aloha

Hey there eager thread-followers (all three of you). I just played my first NL session of the year, so it seemed like a good time for a post. As I mentioned, since January, I've just been playing the 15/30 limit at the Oaks, which is going fine - I'm beating the game for more than a Big Bet p/h, which seems good considering I still feel like I'm learning limit to some degree. And the conveniences of being able to call ahead to get on the list (which they only allow for 15/30 and 30/60), and having the game 5 minutes form my house are huge.

But today I found myself down at SF State, so stopped in at Lucky Chances. It took me a little while ago to re-adjust, but the things proceeded in regular form. I forgot just how soft those games are, and now I feel like I have the hours in to safely say that yes, I think that 3/5 game is more profitable than the 15/30. But the commute still breaks it in the favor of limit, at least for my lifestyle at the moment. Though I hear a rumor from a reliable source that the Oaks has put in an application for a 400 max spread limit game with 2/3/5 blinds and a max buy-in of 1k. This would be awesome, and I suspect would effectively kill the 200 max, and draw a good portion of that pool into the 400 max, which would be awesome. AND, assuming that the vast majority are still buying in for 100bb or less, it would play like a real NL 98% of the time (I can count on two hands the number of times I remember someone making a raise of much more than $400 at the 3/5 game, and even in most of those cases, it's usually a wierd over-shove where a raise of $400 would have the same effect).

So if that game actually goes forward, I'd be in the proverbial cat-bird seat, actually able to choose between the 400 max and the 15/30, depending on which game looked juicier. Fingers crossed.

Anyway, onto the pokers:
I played three hands in rapid succession all against the same player, who I had typed as very good and aggressive, and think I've played with before, but couldn't remember when.

Hand 1- Good player has just lost the previous hand and is possibly a bit tilted. He straddles, I'm in the SB with AQo. Five people call the straddle (gotta love this game!), and I just complete, hoping to induce a steal from the Straddler, who I think between slight tilt and this money being offered up to him on a platter is going to raise here with like 70% of his range. BB calls, and Straddle

SHOVES. For 80bb. Whoah. Weird. I was expecting a raise, but not expecting that. It folds back to me, and I insta-call. I just don't see him doing that with the part of his range that crushed me, and if it's a flip the $60 of dead money in the middle makes my call +EV. But, really, I think I'm ahead here a ton.

It turns out I'm not. He says he's got a small pair, as the cards come out. I spike an Ace on the river. Thank you very much.

A few rounds later I seat-change, as this good player, is also sitting to the right of a friend of his, who may or may not be good, but is very aggressive and incredibly annoying.

So I'm in the MP with 9d7d. The good players opens UTG+1, I think, to $20. One caller in front of me. I call, someone calls behind.

Flop 9s8s6d. A monster.

He bets out $30, I make it $100. I could just call here, since I have a huge draw, but I don't mind extracting some value from the flush draw, and I've got decent equity against an over-pair.

He makes it $300, with $300 behind (I cover). Huh. Didn't see that coming. Now I'm thinking it's very likely an overpair, but with the $300 in the middle, I'm committed to this pot. I shove, he calls.

The third spade turns. He declares the nuts (he had AJss, which it turns out is like 49% against my hand). So essentially two flips in a row, we each win one.

Then the third hand. Effective stacks about $400.

I posted in CO. Same guy raises it to $20 UTG. I call.

Flop q99ss. Sweet.

He leads $30. I make it $80. I'm hoping this looks like I'm playing my flush draw aggressively and maybe I can get action from a Q or an over pair. But then he makes it $200. And I have $200 behind. Which totally sucks. If he shoves I can instacall, but his raise-sizing says "I want you to shove the rest in, but I don't want to scare you off." On the other hand, the only hand that makes sense here is QQ. I'm crushing everything else in his UTG raise range I thought (I was wrong). Is there anyway I can fold this? I really feel like I'm beat here from the bet-sizing and our history, but I call like a fish. He tables q9dd, leaving me drawing dead.

Immediately after that I get moved to the main game, and manage to claw myself back up from down 2 buy-ins to a +$600 win. Not bad for a days work, all things considered.

My wife is reading over my shoulder and says I sound like a douche-bag. Probably everyone on 2+2 does, to a civilian. But maybe me more than most...
Does he think he is in a different thread?
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03-06-2013 , 02:34 AM
A guy taking the idea of hijacking a thread to a whole new level

edit: If you check his username you can quickly see he has his own pgc thread going as well. Obv accidentally put his update post in here by mistake.
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03-06-2013 , 03:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheTyman9
A guy taking the idea of hijacking a thread to a whole new level

edit: If you check his username you can quickly see he has his own pgc thread going as well. Obv accidentally put his update post in here by mistake.
Indeed, still hilarious tho.
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03-06-2013 , 04:10 AM
Ha! Apologies Pure for the accidental post. Thought I was posting in mine. But actually I'm just jealous of your followers.

Enjoy AC- the Borgata is very nice, if only the same could be said of its surrounding...
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03-06-2013 , 01:34 PM
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03-06-2013 , 05:05 PM
Borgata is awesome, especially if you are looking for higher games. Are you still just playing 1/2 or are you including higher now that you are backed?
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03-06-2013 , 08:26 PM
I wandered along the boardwalk for a bit from Caesars to Revel. It was cold outside but the walk was nice. It is storming outside today.

I located a few of the poker rooms on the boarkwalk at Taj Mahal, Showboat, and Revel but didn't play at any of them yet. The poker room at Revel was like a treasure hunt to find, harder than finding the casino itself.

Bridge from Deleware to NJ



Home for a little while



A look out of our room on the 36th floor



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Originally Posted by Randal_Graves
Welcome to Atlantic City!
Thanks, good to be here!

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Originally Posted by Mzbourg
Who is this guy?
That is actually a very good friend of mine.

Quote:
Originally Posted by buckminster1
Ha! Apologies Pure for the accidental post. Thought I was posting in mine. But actually I'm just jealous of your followers.

Enjoy AC- the Borgata is very nice, if only the same could be said of its surrounding...
No apology needed, feel free to make a guest appearance anytime . Interesting that Oaks might get a 400 max 2/3/5 game, I wonder why they wouldn't push to get a NL game. Rules can be changed if the right people are paid enough money.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheTyman9
Borgata is awesome, especially if you are looking for higher games. Are you still just playing 1/2 or are you including higher now that you are backed?
I'm sticking to 1/2 and 1/3 for a little while longer, should take some shots at 2/5 when I am back in the green and am playing solid.

March 2013

Total hours played- 30
Average hourly winrate- $12
Winnings- $370

2013 YTD

Total hours played- 272.5
Average hourly winrate- $3
Winnings- $734
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03-07-2013 , 04:23 AM
Hopefully I stay out of your way this weekend at the 1/2 tables.
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03-07-2013 , 04:40 AM
Been reading the earlier posts in your thread for a few days and decided to jump up and see what point you're at now. It's been an inspiring read so far. I'm another trying to do basically the same thing - though I haven't decided on Vegas for sure yet.

I'm considering an AC trip this weekend so if you end up playing 1/2 at the Borgata with a 24 year old dude with a beard and thinning hair who looks like he's on 2p2, it might be me.
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03-07-2013 , 01:40 PM
How soft are the games there compared to Vegas? I know it's early to get a good read...
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03-07-2013 , 09:51 PM
I'll grade my play for the session an A. Biggest pot I played I flopped top set with aces bet/3b the flop... got 1 outted by middle set gg.

come to think of it there are a lot of beach pics in this thread, well I guess 1 more couldn't hurt







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Originally Posted by Randal_Graves
Hopefully I stay out of your way this weekend at the 1/2 tables.
Feel free to say hi, I'm very easy to spot.

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Originally Posted by JoeyBlaze
Been reading the earlier posts in your thread for a few days and decided to jump up and see what point you're at now. It's been an inspiring read so far. I'm another trying to do basically the same thing - though I haven't decided on Vegas for sure yet.

I'm considering an AC trip this weekend so if you end up playing 1/2 at the Borgata with a 24 year old dude with a beard and thinning hair who looks like he's on 2p2, it might be me.
Say what's up if you make it out here. Hope you can accomplish whatever you decide to do.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bubonicplay
How soft are the games there compared to Vegas? I know it's early to get a good read...
The games have been typical midweek games so far. There are enough tables running to practice a little table selection.

March 2013

Total hours played- 37
Average hourly winrate- $6
Winnings- $229

2013 YTD

Total hours played- 280
Average hourly winrate- $2
Winnings- $593
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03-08-2013 , 05:09 PM
I'll grade my play an A for the session. I am playing a little looser preflop and a little tighter postflop. The rake here is decent 10% up to 4 + 1 for promo.

I am going to do a mini challenge, I want to play 30 hrs Fri-Sun. I need some ideas for something daring I have to do if I fail, I also owe 1 from January.

Mini Challenge

Hours played- XX

March 2013

Total hours played- 40
Average hourly winrate- $12
Winnings- $475

2013 YTD

Total hours played- 282
Average hourly winrate- $3
Winnings- $839
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03-09-2013 , 04:38 AM
How about you can't play poker for the next 2 weeks if you fail to meet your goal. Double Whammy?
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03-09-2013 , 07:01 AM
Still haven't decided if I'm going tomorrow night or not. Depends how awake I feel after work, since I'd basically have to take a train after work, then play until check-in on Sunday (can't get a room Saturday for less than 300 with Total Rewards...no thanks.)

Have you played any of the Philly area poker rooms? I'm in Philly and Harrah's is my current home base. Parx is also a great room. I made Harrah's my home base because it's easier to get to and from there, and there are a ton of fishy regulars. I'd recommend checking out both rooms while you're in the vicinity.
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03-09-2013 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ZombieApoc21
How about you can't play poker for the next 2 weeks if you fail to meet your goal. Double Whammy?
He cant do this man.hes Playing poker for a living.Why would he punish himself and his backer? He wants to do something humiliating/funny not something that could cost him a few thousand bucks
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03-09-2013 , 04:13 PM
It is convenient being a 5 min walk to the poker room. It was filled up today. I got in a pretty good session I'll grade my play an A.





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Originally Posted by ZombieApoc21
How about you can't play poker for the next 2 weeks if you fail to meet your goal. Double Whammy?
I am trying to get a little motivation to grind long sessions. I am living at Borgata so it should actually be easy to log a ton of hrs.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeyBlaze
Still haven't decided if I'm going tomorrow night or not. Depends how awake I feel after work, since I'd basically have to take a train after work, then play until check-in on Sunday (can't get a room Saturday for less than 300 with Total Rewards...no thanks.)

Have you played any of the Philly area poker rooms? I'm in Philly and Harrah's is my current home base. Parx is also a great room. I made Harrah's my home base because it's easier to get to and from there, and there are a ton of fishy regulars. I'd recommend checking out both rooms while you're in the vicinity.
I haven't played in Philly, dhcg86 said he didn't like Parx because of bad lighting. I'll check them out if I get a chance.

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Originally Posted by TrubyKGB
He cant do this man.hes Playing poker for a living.Why would he punish himself and his backer? He wants to do something humiliating/funny not something that could cost him a few thousand bucks
Exactly, I'm still open to ideas. BBV wanted me to shave my hair into a mohawk but that is a little too permanant.

Mini Challenge

Hours played- 8.5

March 2013

Total hours played- 48.5
Average hourly winrate- $13
Winnings- $618

2013 YTD

Total hours played- 290.5
Average hourly winrate- $3
Winnings- $982
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03-09-2013 , 07:25 PM
My suggestion for a punishment if you fail is you have to shake a bucket on the boardwalk for an hour, maybe have a sign that says "I suck at poker, need money"
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03-09-2013 , 07:36 PM
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Exactly, I'm still open to ideas. BBV wanted me to shave my hair into a mohawk but that is a little too permanant.
This is actually a pretty cool idea haha, and you have like pretty long hair so you'd have a sick mohawk!

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03-09-2013 , 09:02 PM
Nice meeting you last night even if I was 20+ drinks deep and they wouldn't let you stay in the lounge despite us trying to bribe them.
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03-09-2013 , 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Mzbourg
This is actually a pretty cool idea haha, and you have like pretty long hair so you'd have a sick mohawk!

This must be done. So it is written. So it shall be.
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