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08-07-2018 , 11:43 PM
I've enjoyed some of these threads and wanted to make one to track my attempt in moving up stakes online starting at 100nl. I've been grinding/learning mtts for a while and I'm going to keep that up but I want to track my progress learning cash.

Some of my previous 100nl experience includes assuming I could crush it off a 1300 roll with no experience of beating it, studying it, or even playing it. dare I say gto? I'm returning to 100nl again and going to assume I can beat it again without much of a reason.

My goal is to work on improving my game at 100nl before moving up to 200nl.
I'm "rolled" for 200nl so I can take shots whenever but I'ld like to be a little better at poker first. I'm aiming to to get in a few daily hands and post results from those as well as hands I'm thinking about.

I plan on uploading some hands tmrw and results later tonight!
I was playing a little earlier today and running kinda silly so the challenge will likely start out hot but we'll see what goes down in the streets. Will post weekly +monthly graphs.

short term goals, at least next month:

-play at least __ hands a day. maybe 1000ish? gonna try to do as many as i can and look at stats at end of week to set this goal smartr

-post net results each day played.

-study

-more volume! im hoping to be able to play longer/more tables as i improve and practice more

past that:

-play higher
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08-08-2018 , 04:06 PM
The first day I was blessed with pg+c run good and ended +$417.51

Hoping to get in more hands today than yesterday. Ive been thinking a lot about some of the ones from yesterday and am curious what other people think so planning on getting some of those on here

Apparently i did have some 100nl hands I didn't remember.. lets get those hands up (and wr down)

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08-09-2018 , 06:39 AM
some hands from yesterdays session. todays session was played pretty poor but still +140.59.
any feedback on hands would be appreciated greatly.

hand 1

for most hands i wont have reads since no hud (and anon) and lots of other tables. ill try to mention actual read or info if i have it or else im treating the person like a random 100nl reg

is this missing value? my plan on flop was to triple but i guess i changed my mind to runouts that aren't q/j/t on turn bc it felt too thin at that point but im wondering if that's too nitty.

    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935543

    MP: $95.50 (95.5 bb)
    CO: $206.02 (206 bb)
    BTN: $97 (97 bb)
    Hero (SB): $116.97 (117 bb)
    BB: $151.29 (151.3 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A K
    2 folds, BTN raises to $3, Hero raises to $12, BB folds, BTN calls $9

    Flop: ($25) A 3 9 (2 players)
    Hero bets $8.80, BTN calls $8.80

    Turn: ($42.60) Q (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN checks

    River: ($42.60) 3 (2 players)
    Hero bets $35, BTN calls $35

    Spoiler:
    Results: $112.60 pot ($3 rake)
    Final Board: A 3 9 Q 3
    BTN mucked T A and lost (-$55.80 net)
    Hero showed A K and won $109.60 ($53.80 net)



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    hand 2

    pretty lucky lol but this felt kinda marginal pre or nah? whats the worst pair you defend here? wp by villian? am i supposed to call down TT/99?

      Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935544

      MP: $96 (96 bb)
      Hero (CO): $100 (100 bb)
      BTN: $360.09 (360.1 bb)
      SB: $183.37 (183.4 bb)
      BB: $97 (97 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with 7 7
      MP folds, Hero raises to $3, BTN folds, SB raises to $11, BB folds, Hero calls $8

      Flop: ($23) 2 7 2 (2 players)
      SB bets $7, Hero calls $7

      Turn: ($37) 5 (2 players)
      SB bets $23, Hero calls $23

      River: ($83) 3 (2 players)
      SB bets $142.37 and is all-in, Hero calls $59 and is all-in

      Spoiler:
      Results: $201 pot ($3 rake)
      Final Board: 2 7 2 5 3
      Hero showed 7 7 and won $198 ($98 net)
      SB showed J J and lost (-$100 net)



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      hand 3

      spew hand? is this too strong to bluff with? i would be pretty comfortable folding to the 3bet and just calling when suited but is flatting standard?
      what hands would you bluff with here?


        Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935546

        BTN: $157.23 (157.2 bb)
        SB: $266.33 (266.3 bb)
        BB: $53.68 (53.7 bb)
        Hero (UTG): $98.50 (98.5 bb)
        MP: $67.76 (67.8 bb)
        CO: $100 (100 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q A
        Hero raises to $3, 3 folds, SB raises to $9, BB folds, Hero raises to $24.38, SB raises to $100, Hero folds

        Spoiler:
        Results: $49.76 pot
        SB showed K K and won $49.76 ($25.38 net)



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        hand 4

        weird hand but what sizing do you go on river? mostly wanna get called by 66-99? pretty sure i had reason not to be worried about bb even tho that looks suspicious. i think his fold button was broken

          Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935545

          MP: $223.11 (223.1 bb)
          Hero (CO): $107.95 (108 bb)
          BTN: $105.40 (105.4 bb)
          SB: $145.27 (145.3 bb)
          BB: $22.21 (22.2 bb)
          UTG: $47.70 (47.7 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is CO with T T
          2 folds, Hero raises to $3, BTN raises to $9, SB folds, BB calls $8, Hero calls $6

          Flop: ($27.50) 3 5 2 (3 players)
          BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $9, BB raises to $13.21 and is all-in, Hero calls $13.21, BTN calls $4.21

          Turn: ($67.13) 5 (3 players, 1 is all-in)
          Hero checks, BTN checks

          River: ($67.13) 5 (3 players, 1 is all-in)
          Hero bets $19.76, BTN folds

          Spoiler:
          Results: $67.13 pot ($3.35 rake)
          Final Board: 3 5 2 5 5
          Hero showed T T and won $63.78 ($41.57 net)
          BTN mucked and lost (-$22.21 net)
          BB showed A 7 and lost (-$22.21 net)



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          08-09-2018 , 07:22 AM
          In before mirage analysis! ��

          Not going to comment too much as I play MTTs myself so am clueless, thinking about learning cash myself too however so will follow with interest and wish you luck!

          All hands look well played fwiw, can’t imagine 77 is marginal pre and must be super standard defend?
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          08-09-2018 , 04:15 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by herbalerv
          In before mirage analysis! ��
          he would like some of the ones i post later like overbluffing with 22 multiple times


          Quote:
          Not going to comment too much as I play MTTs myself so am clueless, thinking about learning cash myself too however so will follow with interest and wish you luck!
          thank you!

          Quote:
          All hands look well played fwiw, can’t imagine 77 is marginal pre and must be super standard defend?
          yeah it feels strong to be folding there but wasnt sure
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          08-09-2018 , 04:38 PM
          Hey, good luck with the challenge and as for the hands:

          Hand 1: I think you are definitely missing a lot of value, especially after your small cbet on the flop, which is indicative that you are betting most of your range. If you are not including AK in your turn value range then what will make the cut?If you do check though, I would say over bet the river. It seems to me like you're playing a bit scared, in this case being scared of AQ, I could be wrong. But the point here is that sometimes you will get stacked by AQ but you are missing value from all his other Ax.

          Hand 2: is pretty std. Don't think I'm folding any pairs here IP

          Hand 3: AQ seems like an easy call vs most people
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          08-10-2018 , 12:32 AM
          Hand 3 there is no dead money and sb is 3betting an UTG open usually = very strong. Not criticising the 4bet but i have to ask what do we hope to accomplish with our 4bet?
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          08-10-2018 , 02:20 AM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by sebas_515
          Hey, good luck with the challenge and as for the hands:

          Hand 1: I think you are definitely missing a lot of value, especially after your small cbet on the flop, which is indicative that you are betting most of your range. If you are not including AK in your turn value range then what will make the cut?If you do check though, I would say over bet the river. It seems to me like you're playing a bit scared, in this case being scared of AQ, I could be wrong. But the point here is that sometimes you will get stacked by AQ but you are missing value from all his other Ax.
          Thank you! and yeah thats a really good point and might be why it didnt feel right. I wasn't scared of him having exactly AQ, just scared he wont have enough worse stuff after I bet turn and shove river and he calls but thats probably assuming he more nitty than he actually is
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          08-10-2018 , 02:40 AM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by noshots00
          Hand 3 there is no dead money and sb is 3betting an UTG open usually = very strong. Not criticising the 4bet but i have to ask what do we hope to accomplish with our 4bet?
          i guess that he folds which probably won't happen too often w/ his strong range. and if he flat calls then bet/shove repping aces/kings. gotta have some bluffs right?
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          08-10-2018 , 05:19 AM
          todays hands were a lot of fun

          im on 135 bb and i get excited b/c i notice this fun player at the table just TRIPLED up and now has my same stack. so im like lets go, gonna stack him. he stacks me the next hand he went 45 -> 270 -> cya within 5 hands haha. i was like good for u man. wish u had stayed but good for u

          end of the day finished +128.91 after a lot of run good

          hands

          hand 1

          i was gonna shove a lot of rivers but felt like that wasnt a good one. turn seems like the worst decision

            Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935594

            Hero (BTN): $102.45 (102.5 bb)
            SB: $138.04 (138 bb)
            BB: $103.68 (103.7 bb)
            MP: $49.83 (49.8 bb)
            CO: $131.03 (131 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is BTN with 2 2
            MP folds, CO raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $7.50, 2 folds, CO calls $5

            Flop: ($16.50) 3 6 8 (2 players)
            CO checks, Hero bets $12.50, CO calls $12.50

            Turn: ($41.50) 4 (2 players)
            CO checks, Hero bets $24.45, CO calls $24.45

            River: ($90.40) K (2 players)
            CO checks, Hero checks

            Spoiler:
            Results: $90.40 pot ($3 rake)
            Final Board: 3 6 8 4 K
            Hero mucked 2 2 and lost (-$44.45 net)
            CO showed A 3 and won $87.40 ($42.95 net)



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            hand 2

            should be betting flop bigger? was gonna give up after that but thought it was worth to try again with the ace.

            the river didnt feel right but i tried anyway


              Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935595

              Hero (CO): $117.10 (117.1 bb)
              BTN: $96.32 (96.3 bb)
              SB: $89.68 (89.7 bb)
              BB: $100 (100 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is CO with 2 2
              Hero raises to $3, BTN folds, SB calls $2.50, BB folds

              Flop: ($7) 8 K Q (2 players)
              SB checks, Hero bets $3.75, SB calls $3.75

              Turn: ($14.50) A (2 players)
              SB checks, Hero bets $10, SB calls $10

              River: ($34.50) T (2 players)
              SB checks, Hero bets $26, SB calls $26

              Spoiler:
              Results: $86.50 pot ($3 rake)
              Final Board: 8 K Q A T
              Hero showed 2 2 and lost (-$42.75 net)
              SB showed A 4 and won $83.50 ($40.75 net)



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              hand 3

              was pretty distracted during this hand. sizing should be bigger on turn? and smaller on river? then just fold when he raises?


                Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
                Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935596

                SB: $282.68 (282.7 bb)
                Hero (BB): $97.85 (97.9 bb)
                CO: $100 (100 bb)
                BTN: $90.13 (90.1 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is BB with 5 7
                CO raises to $3, BTN calls $3, SB calls $2.50, Hero calls $2

                Flop: ($12) 8 6 2 (4 players)
                SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

                Turn: ($12) 9 (4 players)
                SB checks, Hero bets $6, 2 folds, SB calls $6

                River: ($24) A (2 players)
                SB checks, Hero bets $15, SB raises to $30, Hero calls $15

                Spoiler:
                Results: $84 pot ($3 rake)
                Final Board: 8 6 2 9 A
                SB showed Q 8 and won $81 ($42 net)
                Hero mucked 5 7 and lost (-$39 net)



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                hand 4

                how do u guys think about this flop spot?

                  Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
                  Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935597

                  CO: $195.09 (195.1 bb)
                  Hero (BTN): $104.88 (104.9 bb)
                  BB: $128.11 (128.1 bb)
                  MP2: $101.50 (101.5 bb)

                  Preflop: Hero is BTN with 4 A
                  MP2 calls $1, CO folds, Hero raises to $3, BB folds, MP2 calls $2

                  Flop: ($7) Q 6 4 (2 players)
                  MP2 checks,



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                  hand 5

                  mandatory c/r on flop? and what size?

                    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935599

                    Hero (BB): $223.79 (223.8 bb)
                    UTG: $78.10 (78.1 bb)
                    MP: $98.50 (98.5 bb)
                    CO: $119.10 (119.1 bb)
                    BTN: $185.23 (185.2 bb)
                    SB: $92.38 (92.4 bb)

                    Preflop: Hero is BB with 9 7
                    3 folds, BTN calls $1, SB folds, Hero checks

                    Flop: ($2.50) 6 8 K (2 players)
                    Hero checks, BTN bets $2, Hero calls $2




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                    08-10-2018 , 10:29 AM
                    Quote:
                    Originally Posted by fishonthegrind
                    i guess that he folds which probably won't happen too often w/ his strong range. and if he flat calls then bet/shove repping aces/kings. gotta have some bluffs right?

                    If the site is anon with no hud we dont need any bluffs and can just play exploitatively.

                    Band 1 we need to give up turn or bet river.

                    Hand 2 opponent is terrible its too bad we didny have a value hand

                    Hand 3 it's just a question of whether we think he ever does this with worse. Its a very exploitative fold but I think we have to make it. I dont know if the defend pre is standard either, certsinly marginal,

                    Hand 4 I would go $4 preflop. Postflop i can go either way. Obv if he folds 55+ that's a big win for us but we'd make more if he hits a pair/set that gives us a flush. I think overall I like betting. His range that calls us is like medium pairs that we can apply give pressure to on all T+ turns, flush draws that we dominate, random,AX floats that we dominate, and some queens that we have good odds against.

                    Hand 5 opponent shouldnt have any strong kings so we're looking at a lot of hands that can't stand up to pressure. We probably use a mixed strategy where we call sometimes and raise sometimes depending on villain.
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                    08-12-2018 , 05:46 AM
                    Quote:
                    Originally Posted by noshots00
                    If the site is anon with no hud we dont need any bluffs and can just play exploitatively.

                    Band 1 we need to give up turn or bet river.

                    Hand 2 opponent is terrible its too bad we didny have a value hand

                    Hand 3 it's just a question of whether we think he ever does this with worse. Its a very exploitative fold but I think we have to make it. I dont know if the defend pre is standard either, certsinly marginal,

                    Hand 4 I would go $4 preflop. Postflop i can go either way. Obv if he folds 55+ that's a big win for us but we'd make more if he hits a pair/set that gives us a flush. I think overall I like betting. His range that calls us is like medium pairs that we can apply give pressure to on all T+ turns, flush draws that we dominate, random,AX floats that we dominate, and some queens that we have good odds against.

                    Hand 5 opponent shouldnt have any strong kings so we're looking at a lot of hands that can't stand up to pressure. We probably use a mixed strategy where we call sometimes and raise sometimes depending on villain.
                    thank you for the feedback! all helpful points

                    got a few more hands. finally had a losing session around 150 after a few wins in a row, im not getting too many hands in so ill probably spread out updating the results a little

                    hand 1

                    thoughts? should probably bet flop bigger?

                      Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935884

                      CO: $197.75 (197.8 bb)
                      BTN: $40.51 (40.5 bb)
                      SB: $99 (99 bb)
                      BB: $103.30 (103.3 bb)
                      Hero (UTG): $98.50 (98.5 bb)
                      MP: $93 (93 bb)

                      Preflop: Hero is UTG with K J
                      Hero raises to $3, MP folds, CO calls $3, BTN calls $3, SB folds, BB calls $2

                      Flop: ($12.50) K 9 2 (4 players)
                      BB checks, Hero bets $3.65, CO calls $3.65, BTN calls $3.65, BB folds

                      Turn: ($23.45) 5 (3 players)
                      Hero checks, CO bets $11.72, BTN folds, Hero calls $11.72

                      River: ($46.89) K (2 players)
                      Hero checks, CO bets $179.38 and is all-in




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                      hand 2


                      not sure how to play this one


                        Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
                        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935885

                        CO: $112.98 (113 bb)
                        BTN: $114.78 (114.8 bb)
                        SB: $236.75 (236.8 bb)
                        Hero (BB): $97 (97 bb)
                        MP: $106.91 (106.9 bb)

                        Preflop: Hero is BB with J J
                        2 folds, BTN raises to $3, SB folds, Hero raises to $12, BTN raises to $28.50




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                        hand 3

                        villian here was playing kinda weak/passive.. i only remember one hand where he limp/called a 5x raise ep with a4o and floated a 2/3 cbet with nothing

                        river too thin (against this and other vills)? u think his flop cbet size skews him towards FDs more? i thought he had enough worse stuff to call but im wondering how he sizes his Ax on flop


                          Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935887

                          SB: $99 (99 bb)
                          Hero (BB): $143.38 (143.4 bb)
                          UTG: $141.74 (141.7 bb)
                          MP: $133.59 (133.6 bb)
                          CO: $70.63 (70.6 bb)
                          BTN: $93.98 (94 bb)

                          Preflop: Hero is BB with 5 5
                          UTG folds, MP raises to $3, CO folds, BTN calls $3, SB calls $2.50, Hero calls $2

                          Flop: ($12) 5 6 A (4 players)
                          SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $3, BTN folds, SB calls $3, Hero raises to $19.30, MP calls $16.30, SB folds

                          Turn: ($53.60) J (2 players)
                          Hero bets $35, MP calls $35

                          River: ($123.60) 2 (2 players)
                          Hero bets $86.08 and is all-in, MP calls $76.29 and is all-in

                          Spoiler:
                          Results: $276.18 pot ($4.00 rake)
                          Final Board: 5 6 A J 2
                          Hero showed 5 5 and won $0.00 (-$133.59 net)
                          MP showed T Q and won $272.18 ($138.59 net)



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                          hand 4

                          should i keep betting turn? i was mostly thinking of the pairs he can have.. he can have 99/TT which i make fold and a few sets that shove? as well as some Ajs maybe or Kjs/Qjs.. i guess i felt i should check and take my equity but idk.

                          easy call on river?


                            Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935888

                            Hero (BTN): $173.69 (173.7 bb)
                            SB: $105.63 (105.6 bb)
                            BB: $103.18 (103.2 bb)
                            UTG: $163.23 (163.2 bb)
                            MP: $100 (100 bb)
                            CO: $113.44 (113.4 bb)

                            Preflop: Hero is BTN with A K
                            2 folds, CO raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, SB calls $8.50, 2 folds

                            Flop: ($22) 8 7 J (2 players)
                            SB checks, Hero bets $13.90, SB calls $13.90

                            Turn: ($49.80) 5 (2 players)
                            SB checks, Hero checks

                            River: ($49.80) A (2 players)
                            SB bets $20



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