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The GoldStar grind: July 10NLz The GoldStar grind: July 10NLz

06-30-2015 , 09:19 AM
Hello 2+2!

I will for the first time try to hit GoldStar on Pokerstars. I have been playing poker for about a year and a half but not put in a lot of volume for a long time. I'm doing this thread to keep myself motivated and to NOT give up.

I have a $500 bankroll atm witch I have grinded up from a $20 deposit.

To become a GoldStar by grinding 10NLz I will need to play about 41,7K hands but I will put in a few k more hands and hit a nice round 50K.
By doing this I will also get about $106 in rakeback which is pretty nice. Will post some graphs every few k hands.

Goals

[ ] GoldStar
[ ] 50 000 hands (will prob crush it tho)
[ ] EV 4bb/100
[ ] Study 20 hours
[ ] Have fun
[ ] Improve a lot

GL me!
The GoldStar grind: July 10NLz Quote
06-30-2015 , 09:30 PM
good luck
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06-30-2015 , 11:20 PM
Good luck mate! Moved up to 10nl myself this month and went not too bad. Going to try for goldstar as well!

NB: Aforementioned good luck is discounted for any potential hands against markodpoker.
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07-01-2015 , 07:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NaZz68
good luck
Thanks man!
Quote:
Originally Posted by markodpoker
Good luck mate! Moved up to 10nl myself this month and went not too bad. Going to try for goldstar as well!

NB: Aforementioned good luck is discounted for any potential hands against markodpoker.
GL you to. But not vs me obv See ya at the tables!
The GoldStar grind: July 10NLz Quote
07-01-2015 , 08:09 PM
So first day went really well.. Totally crushed and won 7EV buyins which is pretty good:


Played really solid and most hands was pretty standard..
Here is a debatable hand:

How do you play this?
I decided to 3bet/5bet shove JJ vs reg BvB not standard imo but he semed a little agro over smalish sample:

    Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: $10.66 (106.6 bb)
    Hero (BB): $10.27 (102.7 bb)
    UTG: $103 (1,030 bb)
    MP: $14.48 (144.8 bb)
    CO: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
    BTN: $3.17 (31.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with J J
    4 folds, SB raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.90, SB raises to $2.10, Hero raises to $10.27 and is all-in, SB calls $8.17

    Flop: ($20.54) Q 4 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    Turn: ($20.54) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: ($20.54) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: $20.54 pot ($0.92 rake)
    Final Board: Q 4 9 Q 8
    SB showed A A and won $19.62 ($9.35 net)
    Hero showed J J and lost (-$10.27 net)


    Todays biggest pot:
      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      Hero (SB): $24.64 (246.4 bb)
      BB: $11.43 (114.3 bb)
      UTG: $5.22 (52.2 bb)
      MP: $31.45 (314.5 bb)
      CO: $12.70 (127 bb)
      BTN: $26.38 (263.8 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with K K
      3 folds, BTN raises to $0.20, Hero raises to $0.80, BB folds, BTN calls $0.60

      Flop: ($1.70) K 2 5 (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.10, BTN calls $1.10

      Turn: ($3.90) 2 (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.52, BTN raises to $5.04, Hero raises to $14.05, BTN raises to $24.48, Hero calls $8.69 and is all-in

      River: ($49.38) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Spoiler:
      Results: $49.38 pot ($1.50 rake)
      Final Board: K 2 5 2 A
      Hero showed K K and won $47.88 ($23.24 net)
      BTN showed 2 A and lost (-$24.64 net)
      The GoldStar grind: July 10NLz Quote
      07-01-2015 , 08:16 PM
      Wow where do I find this BTN?

      Think your shove with JJ is totally fine.
      The GoldStar grind: July 10NLz Quote
      07-02-2015 , 10:41 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by markodpoker
      Wow where do I find this BTN?

      Think your shove with JJ is totally fine.
      What BTN??

      Yeah can´t be that bad..
      The GoldStar grind: July 10NLz Quote
      07-04-2015 , 08:00 PM
      Hello guys!

      So this is how it's been going last 3 days:


      Since start of challenge:


      So I think that I am still playing pretty good and that I´m just running really bad not only all in EV wise but things like this happened like 7-10 times last 5k hands:
        Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

        Hero (SB): $10 (100 bb)
        BB: $10.07 (100.7 bb)
        UTG: $11.20 (112 bb)
        MP: $11.58 (115.8 bb)
        CO: $28.79 (287.9 bb)
        BTN: $10.28 (102.8 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is SB with K K
        UTG raises to $0.30, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.90, BB folds, UTG calls $0.60

        Flop: ($1.90) J 6 7 (2 players)
        Hero bets $1.20, UTG raises to $3.60, Hero raises to $9.10 and is all-in, UTG calls $5.50

        Turn: ($20.10) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
        River: ($20.10) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

        Spoiler:
        Results: $20.10 pot ($0.90 rake)
        Final Board: J 6 7 5 6
        Hero showed K K and lost (-$10 net)
        UTG showed J J and won $19.20 ($9.20 net)


        In my opinion it´s just coolers that still is +EV in the long run. Don´t think I have played many instresting hands (that is worth posting) just think that I am making good calls/fold and that the results will come.

        The GoldStar grind: July 10NLz Quote
        07-05-2015 , 02:50 AM
        Hey mate sorry to hear about the downswing. How are you going VPP wise? I'm running at about 0.04 VPPs/hand which is going to take me about 58k hands.

        ^ that **** happens, and maybe you can make an exploitative fold against tighter villains. Only semi-bluffs are likely big flush draws and you hold the Kd which blocks a ton of them. Not surprising he turned up with a set and I think that might be a mistake.

        Of course if you had a read that villain was aggressive and/or a rec, it's fine.
        The GoldStar grind: July 10NLz Quote
        07-05-2015 , 06:11 AM
        ^I'm 0,05VPP/Hand for the month (0,06 at 10NL lifetime) Saw you at some tables and you are based on my sample on you playing a bit tighter then me so it makes sense.

        Yeah mayby it's a fold in a vacuum vs some people but it semes so weak to fold KK there and very very exploitable..
        The GoldStar grind: July 10NLz Quote
        07-05-2015 , 06:50 AM
        Yeah there are not many draws. AdQd, maybe AdTd and JdTd but thats optimistic. If we add in some other random spazz like AJ I start to feel better though. He can do this both with QQ and AA too. But can we really ever even think about folding here though?

        Sent from my mobile
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        07-05-2015 , 07:59 AM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by MrP0ker
        ^I'm 0,05VPP/Hand for the month (0,06 at 10NL lifetime) Saw you at some tables and you are based on my sample on you playing a bit tighter then me so it makes sense.

        Yeah mayby it's a fold in a vacuum vs some people but it semes so weak to fold KK there and very very exploitable..
        Yeah it's kinda a tough spot. Maybe if we assume we're always getting it in the other way round (out set v overpair), it's not so bad in the long run. A solid read on the villain is nice, but I guess you just have to play against the population in a vacuum. Unless he's a nit it's probably ok to just go with it.

        And yeah I'm definitely on the tighter side, so am expecting to have a lower VPP earning rate. Don't know your SN so wasn't sure what your stats were :P
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        07-05-2015 , 09:00 AM
        KK you can comfortably fold there.
        I wouldn't worry about being exploited until 200nl. Just take a note of his line. If you see him do it again, you have a reason to believe that he is doing it light.
        Problem is that his draws like T9 AQ have high equity against us.
        So when he has a lot of equity with his draws, you need a lot of fold equity, for the times when you are crushed against a set.
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        07-07-2015 , 08:25 PM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by Fishtankz
        KK you can comfortably fold there.
        I wouldn't worry about being exploited until 200nl. Just take a note of his line. If you see him do it again, you have a reason to believe that he is doing it light.
        Problem is that his draws like T9 AQ have high equity against us.
        So when he has a lot of equity with his draws, you need a lot of fold equity, for the times when you are crushed against a set.
        Okey intresting semes to make sense toe.. Will keep it in mind for later spots!

        Quote:
        Originally Posted by markodpoker
        Don't know your SN so wasn't sure what your stats were :P
        No sorry don´t want to post my sn because I don´t think that I gain anything from it (but don´t lose that much either)

        Haven´t played much last couple of days. Has been busy with other stuff but will put in a big session tomorrow! Played a smal one today and had some intresting spots:

          Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

          SB: $22.65 (226.5 bb)
          BB: $10 (100 bb)
          UTG: $12.19 (121.9 bb)
          MP: $10.12 (101.2 bb)
          Hero (CO): $15.20 (152 bb)
          BTN: $6.41 (64.1 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is CO with A Q
          2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BTN raises to $0.90, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.60

          Flop: ($1.95) A 7 5 (2 players)
          Hero checks, BTN bets $1.30, Hero calls $1.30

          Turn: ($4.55) 8 (2 players)
          Hero checks, BTN bets $3.04, Hero raises to $6.08, BTN calls $1.17 and is all-in

          River: ($12.97) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

          Spoiler:
          Results: $12.97 pot ($0.58 rake)
          Final Board: A 7 5 8 4
          Hero showed A Q and won $6.20 (-$0.21 net)
          BTN showed Q A and won $6.19 (-$0.22 net)


          Hand above is vs an unknown. The question is: can we find a fold on the turn here?

          In the next hand I have an intresting question: Will a reg villan fold his entire range vs a 3 barral here? (exept JJ if it gets to the river)
            Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

            Hero (SB): $10.20 (102 bb)
            BB: $9.26 (92.6 bb)
            UTG: $9.05 (90.5 bb)
            MP: $22.29 (222.9 bb)
            CO: $26.42 (264.2 bb)
            BTN: $18.61 (186.1 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is SB with 6 A
            2 folds, CO raises to $0.30, BTN folds, Hero raises to $0.90, BB folds, CO calls $0.60

            Flop: ($1.90) 7 2 9 (2 players)
            Hero bets $1.04, CO calls $1.04

            Turn: ($3.98) 4 (2 players)
            Hero checks, CO checks

            River: ($3.98) J (2 players)
            Hero checks, CO bets $2.10, Hero folds

            Spoiler:
            Results: $3.98 pot ($0.18 rake)
            Final Board: 7 2 9 4 J
            Hero mucked 6 A and lost (-$1.94 net)
            CO mucked and won $3.80 ($1.86 net)


            The GoldStar grind: July 10NLz Quote
            07-07-2015 , 08:34 PM
            Gl sub.IMO AQ hand c/c down never c/r turn.3bet bigger pre on A6s hand and no,villain isn't going to fold 2p,sets to a 3barrel
            The GoldStar grind: July 10NLz Quote
            07-07-2015 , 09:27 PM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by goktrenks
            Gl sub.IMO AQ hand c/c down never c/r turn
            Villain only had 10BB left ott after betting.

            Sent from my mobile
            The GoldStar grind: July 10NLz Quote
            07-08-2015 , 04:11 AM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by goktrenks
            Gl sub.IMO AQ hand c/c down never c/r turn.3bet bigger pre on A6s hand and no,villain isn't going to fold 2p,sets to a 3barrel
            Ty man!

            I think that he is never folding turn because of pot odds and I can never fold river (If I call turn so I just shoved turn)

            Bigger 3bet? To what size?

            The thing is just that I don't think he has any 2p, set in his range after calling the 3bet pre (exept mayby 3combos of 99 and 3combos of JJ) but I don't think he has any 2p.
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            07-08-2015 , 11:50 AM
            07-08-2015 , 12:22 PM
            you gave up early!
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            07-08-2015 , 03:38 PM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by NaZz68
            you gave up early!
            Yeah and Im caind of dissapointed on myself but the hole point for me is to have fun and enjoy it. I didn't enjoy the grind so no point for me to continue.
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