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03-16-2021 , 08:39 AM
Hello together,

I'm Daniel, I'm 30 and I started a new chapter in my life when I decided to quit my old job to go pro in Poker, which was always my dream. :-)

Since I have a kid and my wife working fulltime, I only work parttime in poker, around 34 hours a week.

My working schedule:
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Monday - Friday from 8 am til 2:30 pm
+ 3 weekday evenings.
I'll play at least 1500 hands per weekday on TigerGaming.
Until this point I played 22.5k hands on NL10 Tiger Gaming with 10.5 evBB/100, preparing to move up to NL25 at April 1st.





My goals:
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I want to make 100.000 clean profit a year with poker at some point, which is the end goal at this point in time.

To play NL100 by the start of 2022!
To play NL400 by the start of 2023!


My approach:
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Since I only have a limited timeframe to work and improve, I want to work as effective as possible.
I wanna work hard and get the feeling that I'm working hard. No excuses, no disctractions, just execution.

I try to build healthy routines like
- working out at least 2x a week
- Meditating 15 min. per day (one day 20 min)
- always trying to improve my sleep and the environment because I think that sleep is key and fundamental for everything else
- Eating clean and healthy
- Working hard with no excuses
- working as effective as possible
- going out of my comforth zone as often as possible
- trying to network as good as possible
- always reflect on me and my game, constantly trying to improve all little routines


What you can expect from this blog:
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- constant updates about my journey
- my graphs
- how I work on my game (Studying with GTO+, FlopzillaPro, posting hands)
- food pics and workout schedules
- NO BAD BEAT STORIES


What I expect from this blog:

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- Improving my network of poker buddys
- input to improve even faster, better or somehow different
- To enjoy this journey even more with a bunch of likeminded people
- to go through pain and hardship a bit easier


I have a poker buddy who also trys to make poker a nice side income, he will post here from time to time, too.


I'm looking forward to welcome you on my journey! :-)

Daniel
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03-16-2021 , 08:43 AM
good luck Daniel, wish you the best
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03-16-2021 , 09:39 AM
GL Buddy

I am the poker buddy mentioned above
I'm from Germany and 31 years old.
I do have a fulltime job, a pregnant wife and a 5 year old son which makes me unable to spend that much amount of time into poker and do it as a pro, but my goal is to reach 100NL by the start of 2022
I already played 25NL but either got a downer, or was just not good enough, so actually playing mostly 10NL and trying to move up back to 25NL ASAP.
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03-16-2021 , 10:47 AM
gl sir, I wish all the best
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03-16-2021 , 11:05 AM
Gl mate! just pm'ed you btw.
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03-16-2021 , 04:19 PM
Thank all of you for the good wishes!

My schedule tomorrow will start with a 26 min HIIT(45sec/20sec) full body workout, followed by a green shake (the one that Bencb makes, really like that one) and a cold shower.
Then a 15 min meditation, then the session prep, followed by at least 1500 hands of playing, hoping to win some stacks to then start shotting NL25 from thursday on! :-)

My theoretical focus these days lies on 3-Bet-Pots OOP as the PFR, try to fix my leaks there as good as possible! I solved a subset of 111 trees with GTO+ and over the next days and weeks will go through them whenever there is time, write down my conclusions to each board, cluster, etc. :-)

If u should have any advises, they are always appreciated! :-D
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03-16-2021 , 04:54 PM
Good luck Daniel, my advice would be while goals are good for discipline dont bite off more than you can chew. Start easy and work your way up rather than the reverse.
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03-16-2021 , 10:17 PM
Goodluck Daniel, seems like you got a good grasp of the struggle ahead and wish you the best of luck

Where are you located? What did you do for work previously? What does wife and family think of this decision? What do you estimate your monthly profit will need to be to continue playing? How many months can you survive off life roll without withdrawing funds from poker? Are you being coached or staked?

It seems to me like starting at nl10, planning on moving up and supporting a family all at the same time is going to be quite a grind.

Gl
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03-17-2021 , 07:02 AM
Looks like this can be a good thread. Good luck!
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03-17-2021 , 07:42 AM
If you're gonna keep up with such work etic, you'll gonna go a long way. gl
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03-17-2021 , 09:13 AM
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Good luck Daniel, my advice would be while goals are good for discipline dont bite off more than you can chew. Start easy and work your way up rather than the reverse.
Thanks for taking the time! I def. try to stay disciplined in all kinds of ways!

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Goodluck Daniel, seems like you got a good grasp of the struggle ahead and wish you the best of luck

Where are you located? Close to Frankfurt, Germany
What did you do for work previously? I worked at a city administration
What does wife and family think of this decision? My wife supoorts me, she really is an angel, she already believed in my poker skills when there barely were any! :-)
What do you estimate your monthly profit will need to be to continue playing? I'll just keep on working on a high level, to someday reach 100k profit a year minimum. In the meantime, I try to make as much money with poker as I did in my old job from the beginning of 2023. Patience and hard work :-)
How many months can you survive off life roll without withdrawing funds from poker? My wife's income covers our living, so I have no real pressure.
Are you being coached or staked? No, just taking a 1on1 coaching with Fallout86 every couple weeks.

It seems to me like starting at nl10, planning on moving up and supporting a family all at the same time is going to be quite a grind. It'll be quite a journey with a lot of hardship passing by, by I signed up for this :-)
Thanks for being intersted rickroll!

Thanks also to shutdown (dont like the name these days ) and ChickensAreDumb ( like the name):
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03-17-2021 , 09:23 AM
As every wednesday, I had quite an intensive workout today!
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Followed by a green shake
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And my daily meditation, where I finished my Acceptance-Package in Headspace.

Altough I couldnt have done a better prep, my session brought a slight loss of 7$, but the EV still 25$ up, so im fine. Will do a session review later today for sure.
I will post my graph at the end of each week, I think that makes the most sense?

And also as every wednesday, I will have a mindset-call in the evening, together with some poker bro's of mine to work our way through the Mindset course from RaiseYourEdge!
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03-17-2021 , 12:26 PM
GL Bro
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03-17-2021 , 12:37 PM
If your goal is to reach NL400 in a couple years, I suggest you do A LOT of studying. Maybe even like 1 hour of studying for every 4-5 hours of poker play. Also, 100K is a BIG goal. That number would put you in the top 1% of all winning players I'm sure. It's a nice goal to have, but when you say that as your minimum, I think it could set you up to fail.

As far as studying, I like to write down hands where I think I might have made an error. If I feel like I'm making the same mistake too often, I'll plug some numbers into PIO. Find someone who will be brutally honest about with you about your plays too. Try to join a group on Discord where you all post hands and give feedback.

Those are some of the things that have helped me, maybe some will work for you also.


Good luck.
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03-17-2021 , 12:42 PM
gl op, sounds like you are in a pretty good spot to make a run at it

remember to set grinding limits, a big leak people do is to play tired and suboptimally

spend some time relaxing with a doner kebab and paulaner outside the cathedral
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03-17-2021 , 02:15 PM
If you're trying to move up from 10nl to stakes where you can actually play professionally, idk if playing weekday morning hours on Chico is the way to go there

Still rooting for you though, best of luck OP
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03-17-2021 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by VeniceMerchant
If your goal is to reach NL400 in a couple years, I suggest you do A LOT of studying. Maybe even like 1 hour of studying for every 4-5 hours of poker play. Also, 100K is a BIG goal. That number would put you in the top 1% of all winning players I'm sure. It's a nice goal to have, but when you say that as your minimum, I think it could set you up to fail.

As far as studying, I like to write down hands where I think I might have made an error. If I feel like I'm making the same mistake too often, I'll plug some numbers into PIO. Find someone who will be brutally honest about with you about your plays too. Try to join a group on Discord where you all post hands and give feedback.

Those are some of the things that have helped me, maybe some will work for you also.


Good luck.
Thank you for taking the time for the input mate! I'm def. aware of how hard it'll get, I'm around the poker circuit for almost 10 years now and I know that, if I want to make it that far, I have to work my ass off and sacrify a lot.
Thats one of my main expectations about this blog. The get impressions of other players way of studying, how they learn, so I can make out the most effektive way of studying for myself within my limited timeframe. I try to optimize at every corner of my job, and I'll appreciate every input in this blog for sure! :-)

So especially the last part of your post was interesting. I already built a study group with some likeminded poker people, where we post hands and stuff. I'm also tagging hands where I was not sure what to do, after my session I put them into a list, to find out which category of "not sure/error" occurs the most, then trying to improve this spot as good as possible with as much feedback as I can get.

For example the 3-Bet-Pots OOP. I often felt uncomfortable when I 3-bet OOP and get called. With many flops I wasnt sure if I should bet and which sizing to choose. So now I solved a 111 subset in GTO+ with 2 sizings each street and try to work my way through it.
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03-17-2021 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
gl op, sounds like you are in a pretty good spot to make a run at it

remember to set grinding limits, a big leak people do is to play tired and suboptimally

spend some time relaxing with a doner kebab and paulaner outside the cathedral
Thanks, grinding limits are important indeed, but I'm really happy when I reach my daily goal of 1.5k hands a day, after that I really need the rest of the day and the evening for whatever theoretical work. :-)
But yes, I would take a icecold Paulaner right now actually. Still prefer Erdinger, though.

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If you're trying to move up from 10nl to stakes where you can actually play professionally, idk if playing weekday morning hours on Chico is the way to go there

Still rooting for you though, best of luck OP
You're absolutely right, I should play a few hours earlier or later in the evening. But with a kid the day is structured. I could play half of my volume in the evening, but then I'm often tired, so I rather do theory work then.
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03-17-2021 , 04:01 PM
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You're absolutely right, I should play a few hours earlier or later in the evening. But with a kid the day is structured. I could play half of my volume in the evening, but then I'm often tired, so I rather do theory work then.
Right, certainly higher EV to not play when tired. The optimal route would be playing most of your volume Fri/Sat/Sun since that's when the fish come out in full force, but might not be much you can do there
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03-18-2021 , 08:01 AM
GL Daniel

You are a very dedicated poker player. You'll rock it

Greetings, your poker buddy Felix
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03-18-2021 , 08:54 AM
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Right, certainly higher EV to not play when tired. The optimal route would be playing most of your volume Fri/Sat/Sun since that's when the fish come out in full force, but might not be much you can do there
Yes, but thinking about it, I might throw in a friday night from time to time.



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GL Daniel

You are a very dedicated poker player. You'll rock it

Greetings, your poker buddy Felix
Thank you Felix, appreciate it!
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03-19-2021 , 08:50 AM
Alright, another intense week in the books. Started shotting some NL25 today, where I missplayed 2 big hands which brought me into the reds...
Anyway, still doing well on NL10. Will keep on shotting next week, hopefully spin it up then!

Some data/graphs now:

This week:



This year Tiger Gaming overall:





My plan for the weekend:


Friday night gonna work on 3-Bet-Pots OOP as the PFR, working through a subset of solved trees with my study group.

Saturday and Sunday 2 days off, recharching batteries with the family.
But starting back into the poker week with the sunday call that I always have in the evening with my study group, working on specific spots.

Sunday I'm also doing a workout (like wednesdays), but on sunday I'm doing between 130 and 200 Burpees, to get ready for the new week!

The goal for the rest of march:

Spinning up the BR to $750, to then play NL25 only from April 1st!

I also have a coaching session in the last week of march with Fallout86, where he is gonna go through my database and helps me fixing the biggest leak hopefully.

You all have a great weekend! Thanks for checking in here!

Daniel
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03-19-2021 , 10:45 AM
Hey Dan,

gl with shotting NL25. If you are into Database work check out "SmartPokerStudy" on youtube. It's a small channel with a ton of videos on how to get the most out of your tracker software. Coaching will definitely help a lot but if you want to go pro I think you have to come to your own conclusions and this channel teaches you how you can.

cheers
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03-19-2021 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by codee
Hey Dan,

gl with shotting NL25. If you are into Database work check out "SmartPokerStudy" on youtube. It's a small channel with a ton of videos on how to get the most out of your tracker software. Coaching will definitely help a lot but if you want to go pro I think you have to come to your own conclusions and this channel teaches you how you can.

cheers
Thank you codee! I’ve already seen some videos from Sky and his smartPokerStudy! I really dig the way how he explains things! Love his channel, especially that the videos are not too long!

But any further recommendations always appreciated!
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03-22-2021 , 09:02 AM
Had a great Burpee-workout yesterday with 150 burpees in 27 minutes, which is my new personal record.
In the evening a great study session with my study group.

Today a kinda rough start into the new week with a Breakeven session, shotting some NL25 which went ok, but the whole NL10 session everything went wrong, but I fought back at least.

My mission for march is still to play my A-game as often as possible and try to spin up my roll to 750$ and then be able to paly NL25 only from april 1st!


Here's a hand from todays session:

Chico - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $10.00
BB: $8.20
Hero (UTG): $13.05
CO: $10.21
BTN: $11.68

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has K Q

Hero raises to $0.23, fold, BTN raises to $0.84, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.61

Flop: ($1.83, 2 players) 7 5 K
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.16, Hero calls $1.16

Turn: ($4.15, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.63, Hero calls $2.63

River: ($9.41, 2 players) T
Hero checks, BTN bets $4.89, Hero ???

I have to be good 1 out of 4 times to make this a breakeven call.

Here are some stats on Villain:

Hands: 7k
25/19 reg
7% 3Bet
C-Bet F/T/R: 53/59/55
Aq Freq. Pre/F/T/R: 19/47/49/45

I'm blocking AK and KK ovs, hard to give him any other sets... But I don't see any bluffs there that he fires through as well, so I'm probably up against AA or AK most of the time... Or can u read something out of the stats I posted above? (I'm not really good yet in taking them into consideration)
What are your guys thoughts?

Last edited by dan-cre; 03-22-2021 at 09:09 AM.
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