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Old 08-17-2018, 06:37 AM   #1
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Getting out of zoom micros

I've been playing this game on and off for a while now since around 2010 took it a bit more seriously in late 2014 and whole of 2015 starting at 2 and 5nl, binked a tourney and moved up to 10nl where with the help of some books I had decent success (@ 3bb/100 over 100k hands). Volume and consistency was always a problem.

Currently playing 2 and 5nl zoom, I've been running a bit bad but man am I **** at this game. I'm planning on spending more time studying and less time playing. Probably just going to 2 table zoom for now. I had periods where I was 6 tabling (4 x 2nl and 2 x 5nl) and while the volume was decent (around 6k to 9k hands a day) I was making a lot of mistakes where I didn't know where I was in the hand, if I was the one who raised or what happened. This even happens at 4 table sometimes. So I will stick to two tables for now and think every time "why" I'm betting.



From 70k to 100k I was 6 tabling. I'm not sure if it was just a downswing but not knowing wtf was going on most of the time certainly wasn't helping.

I have some books that I plan on reading. Half way through balugawhales Easy Game I and despite being somewhat old I feel like it made a bit clearer some concepts I somewhat already understood intuitively. Gonna prolly post monthly graphs, some hands and other **** like that.
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Old 08-17-2018, 07:16 AM   #2
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Re: Getting out of zoom micros

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

BTN: $6.10 (122 bb)
SB: $6.12 (122.4 bb)
BB: $5 (100 bb)
UTG: $6.30 (126 bb)
MP: $7.10 (142 bb)
Hero (CO): $5.74 (114.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A K
UTG folds, MP calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.20, BTN folds, SB calls $0.18, BB calls $0.15, MP calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.80) J 5 K (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $0.50, SB folds, BB calls $0.50, MP folds

Turn: ($1.80) 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.11, BB raises to $2.22, Hero calls $1.11

River: ($6.24) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $2.08 and is all-in, Hero folds

What do you guys think about the turn? The problem is that with the K we might already be drawing dead, and even if we hit a flush we're not getting any more money from lower flushes. While his range is pretty nutted here but we still have SOME outs a percentage of the time and we need like less than 20% equity.
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Old 08-17-2018, 07:30 AM   #3
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Re: Getting out of zoom micros

GL . I would check call turn
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Old 08-17-2018, 07:41 AM   #4
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Re: Getting out of zoom micros

We're in position. You mean checking turn and calling any river? I was thinking of that too but opted for the bet thinking there's still value on the turn from some weaker kings, A Jx with and other gutshots/oesds with a fd. Also I'm not sure how often hes bluffing the river.
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Old 08-17-2018, 09:05 AM   #5
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Yep sorry misread hand. Yeah I would check back and can call river bets then especially with Ks. Yeah I doubt he's bluffing river which is annoying because of the price.
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Old 08-17-2018, 09:20 AM   #6
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Re: Getting out of zoom micros

BTN: $12.45 (249 bb)
SB: $5 (100 bb)
BB: $5.52 (110.4 bb)
Hero (UTG): $5 (100 bb)
MP: $5.18 (103.6 bb)
CO: $4.88 (97.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q Q
Hero raises to $0.15, MP raises to $0.56, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.41

Flop: ($1.19) T 5 T (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.62, Hero calls $0.62

Turn: ($2.43) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks

River: ($2.43) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.65, MP raises to $4 and is all-in, Hero ?

I bet the river very small in the idea of getting calls from hands like AKo, when he shoves I don't expect him to show up here with anything other than a slowplayed ten or air that he decided to shove vs my small sizing.

We need to call @ 3$ in a 7$ pot so we need @ 30% equity.

He has at best ATs, KTs, QTs, JTs, T9s with 2 combos each. That's 10 hands that crush me. For some reason I thought as a bluff only of AK ingame and if he does that half the time then its 8 combos and we have an easy call. Now that I think of it he's more likely to do it with other hands than AK so that widens his range giving us way more than the @ 5 combos that has to bluff with to make this a profitable call.

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Old 08-17-2018, 12:54 PM   #7
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Re: Getting out of zoom micros

BTN: $2.57 (51.4 bb)
SB: $4.73 (94.6 bb)
Hero (BB): $6.37 (127.4 bb)
UTG: $5.02 (100.4 bb)
MP: $20.74 (414.8 bb)
CO: $6.65 (133 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T 8
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.12, CO calls $0.12, BTN calls $0.12, SB folds, Hero calls $0.07

Flop: ($0.50) 3 2 6 (4 players)
Hero bets $0.31, MP calls $0.31, CO calls $0.31, BTN folds

Turn: ($1.43) 9 (3 players)
Hero bets $1.15, MP calls $1.15, CO calls $1.15

River: ($4.88) T (3 players)
Hero bets $1.59, MP folds, CO raises to $5.07 and is all-in,
Spoiler:

Pretty sure I butchered this hand but I'm not sure what the optimal line would have been. Just shove river? Bet fold as played?


Planned to play at least 2k hands while 2 tabling but I'm going to stop as I'm not in the best mood right now.

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Old 08-17-2018, 06:42 PM   #8
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Re: Getting out of zoom micros

QQ: fold vs his raise OTR, population is not bluffing there nearly enough. If you see someone value jam AA, then it makes it even snapfold not even close.

T8hh: I think your play is quite decent given you block TP combos which can call vs a jam, and with your small sizing you might induce some bluffs so I don't mind your river call with a good flush.

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Old 08-17-2018, 07:44 PM   #9
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Re: Getting out of zoom micros

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QQ: fold vs his raise OTR, population is not bluffing there nearly enough. If you see someone value jam AA, then it makes it even snapfold not even close.

T8hh: I think your play is quite decent given you block TP combos which can call vs a jam, and with your small sizing you might induce some bluffs so I don't mind your river call with a good flush.

glgl
Yeah I just filtered my db on calls vs river raises. It's the nuts 90% of the time.
Call vs raises on rivers are losing more than fold vs raises.
Thanks for the gl wishes and for the input.
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Old 08-19-2018, 01:49 AM   #10
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Re: Getting out of zoom micros

I think it would be a good idea to set some concrete daily goals.

For now the plan that I will follow 6 days a week is:
[ ] Play 2k hands
[ ] Read 20 pages of a poker book
[ ] Review/post 2 hands

Occasionally I'll do some d filtering in some spots that I feel are causing me trouble.

Anyone have any ideas what would be some other ways to spend my time learning?
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Old 08-30-2018, 03:00 AM   #11
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Re: Getting out of zoom micros

Visiting my parents and I'm slacking at the moment. Went through a few hands the other day.

    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37936294

    BTN: $5.39 (107.8 bb)
    SB: $5.92 (118.4 bb)
    BB: $5.60 (112 bb)
    UTG: $11.95 (239 bb)
    Hero (MP): $5.22 (104.4 bb)
    CO: $7.47 (149.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with K A
    UTG raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.45, 4 folds, UTG calls $0.30

    Flop: ($0.97) A T 7 (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $0.47, UTG calls $0.47

    Turn: ($1.91) 4 (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $1, UTG calls $1

    River: ($3.91) 2 (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $3.15, UTG raises to $9.45, Hero calls $0.15

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    You guys think this was too wide?
    I've been called in this spot before by AQ but I can't know the frequency. Considering he has 8 combos of AQ and 3 of TT (with some odd 77 or ATs) he'd have to call half his combos of AQ to make this breakeven and even then its not a bet considering rakeback.
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