He ggd the main couple hours back

Lol I know you didn't mean it to but this kinda reads really poorly.

wth happened ? why banned ?

I think that reads well that even though he has action he wants the pgc to survive more?

This. I mean I obviously don't want either dream to die, but if I had to pick one, I'd rather the thread live on.

Hey guys,

Firstly - I got temp banned for arguing with a mod via PM. When he eventually asked "how long do you want banned for?", the reply of "twelve minutes" got me a 24hr temp ban. Immature on my part, but what's done is done. Mods like Orange and Bobo Fett do a great job on this site, but some I take umbrage with certain things. I'll resist from arguing any more however.

Secondly - I bust the main today within the first hour. I knew that I would bust eventually, and it was really important to me that I could look back and say "no regrets" on any of my hands. I'm happy to say I didn't make any major mistakes, take any stupid lines, or punt it off. The hands that I VPIP'd...

As we are unbagging, Rainer Kempe comes across to take his seat and I jokingly say "what so you only wear the scarf if you're on TV?" and he smiles and pats his bag as if to say it's in there. Super nice guy. Anyway first hand of the day he's in s1 and SB, s2 is BB and they're HU, and Kempe is legit staring at him, like legit 1 foot away staring at him the whole hand. I immediately text a few ppl and asked how to handle that if he starts staring at me mid-hand. Anyway second hand of the day he opens BTN, I defend BB w T6o no heart no spade. Flop is 478hhs. Check check. Turn As, I x (obv), and he bets 3k. I raise to 11k, he calls. Qx river and I bet 16.2k into 26.2k. We are 60k to start the hand. I think my river sizing is too small, some people say it's fine, some people say go bigger, some people say jam. Really really keen for feedback on river size. He tells me he thinks I'm valuebetting but has to call and he has A4o. Nh sir. Sidenote, a few hands later he told me he liked my line and that it would be profitable normally. I knew he was being sincere and was just trying to be nice, and jokingly said "woah is that a needle?" obv said it to srsly coz he was like "nooooooononono" hahaha.

2 hands later and Portuguese reg opens UTG+1 (all Portuguese are generally pretty good, martim c ofc the exception ehehehehe), American rec calls MP, I flat 97ss on BTN coz SB is dead and BB is extreme whale (what kind of 50 year old man has a fkn fidget spinner ffs). Flop is A56sss. Checks to me and I bet 3800 into 5400, they both call. Turn Ts goes x/x/x. River Qs. 5 spades on board. UTG+1 leads 8700 into 16.8k. I think about it for a minute and call. He has black kardashians.

I open 8c8x UTG, Portugal calls, Kempe calls SB, NJ reg calls BB. Flop Ax5c6c. Xs round. Turn Qx. Xs round. River Qx. Xs to Portugal who bets like 70% pot. Fold to me and I came super close to calling but let it go.

Kempe opens HJ, I have 22ish bb in CO and rip AJo, he not-happy-about-it-called and his AQo held, and that was all she wrote.

A few BB defends multiway w KJo and a suited one gapper that bricked, but other than that, those were the only hands I played. I would really really appreciate some feedback on them if anyone has any thoughts.

Away out to get absolutely ****faced tonight. Flying home on Monday afternoon, and I'm not gonna lie, I'm not sure where I'm gonna go from here. Whatever happens, we'll do it a smile on our faces.

I would overbet lead the T6o and probably check raise the better combo draws instead which you could have 6 combos of, then either overbet river pretty hard or give up

I also think calling the 88 hand prob better than calling the 9s on 5 spade board, may just pitch both though

Unlucky mate, thanks for the sweat

I think 97 is a spot ppl underbluff especially live but I may be way off. It's close though.
88 well played

97ss i make snap folderino

This hand has many problems.
First of all, what is his open sizing on the button ?
If he did anything else than minraising it seems bad to defend 106o against one of the best mtt regs when there are plenty of fish at the table.

What is your flatting range ? Don't you 3-bet 56s/78s pf ?
Before you think about bluffing you need to know what you are representing and how many value combos you actually have.
On the turn, you are supposed to lead the majority of your value range so you have to be extra cautious when you take the x/r line, especially with offsuit combos, or you will be super unbalanced (if you have 106o here, you will also have 96o, 106s, 96s, 63s, 53s, pair+fd, etc... And your range is complete bs).

Anyway, if you represent a strong 2p+, you have to bet big on the river and potentially go all-in. This is why such an impactful decision needs to be thought very carefully.

Lastly, wtf are you asking your friends for ? No matter how good they are, we are not in 2009 anymore. I feel like the first thing to do is to ask Piosolver to run the sim and work from there. These spots are so complex that nobody can give you a better answer than this software range-wise and sizing-wise.

Would really like some more feedback on any of the above hands.

Went up to Marquee nightclub bouncer tonight, one of the lads couldn't get in coz he showed up in a fkn hat and trainers. Bouncer said we might be ok if we buy a table. We go up to table dude and ask for prices, he's like "min price $550." I'm like aight booked. We chop it 6 ways. Get into the club, chick is like "ok 750 including tips and fees." I'm like ffs fine and get more $ off the boys. Chick gives me a menu and I order $625 bottle (chopping 6 ways so it's fine). She comes back w bottle and all the mixers and she's like "k that's $1150 then".

Utterly swindled. Never been so mad in my life. On the plus side I got absolutely ****faced ayoooo

Someone help me out here

What kind of bottle does $625 (or $1150 ) get you? Only been to a club once in Vegas and I was only with the g/f so I've never done the table thing.

Highland Spring

Hopefully it's a litre...

actual pic of OP

When you ask for feedback you must deal with the consequences!

it was for sure "f"

his name was already posted in your whatsapp screenshot so you can prob just say it now?

Op Mad at paying 2000% mark up price . ****ing nit

Curious as to what you mean by this - as in playing poker, or just life in general, or what?

Btw, I'm a random lurker who was with CB Stables for a while - always thought you seemed like a cool guy and a sick reg!

Here's my 2 cents

H1. T6o is not in any profitable defending range even vs 50% button open. Defending wide here is correct, but T6o is in the small group of hands you should not be defending.
The problem with the turn CR is that most of your value hands are two pair Ax hands, but you would've 3 bet most of these pf.
Including some sets you could have as well. So your range is heavily weighted with FDs/SDs. Any experienced player can pick you apart here because you are overbluffing a ton especially if we include T6o in your range.
Your river sizing depends on what you are trying to get him to fold. If you're trying to make him fold an A here I think that's losing.

H2. Pf, flop and turn std. River I think you should fold 9 high. People bluff less 3 ways OOP. Plus he called flop so he has a decent spade a lot. If you call 9 high that means you're calling all your T's, J's, Q's and That's too many to be profitable. I think probably J high call and T high and less fold here is reasonable.

H3. I don't mind a small C bet on this board for protection, but Check give up 4 ways is fine too.

H4. Last hand is std. Your rejam range here should be like any pair, any suited A, Any suited broadway, and AJo+

This is prolly gonna be a long one...

Ty for feedback, agree with the second paragraph, and will talk about the first paragraph a little lower down...

Not a problem, thanks so much for buying and sending, next year we'll get em!

Yeah in hindsight I agree, thanks.

God if YOU'RE saying you'd fold I musta fkd up badly hehehehe

He opened to 1300 at 6/1200/100, this is definitely a defend.

I won't type out my full defend range here btn vs bb coz it'll take too long but my 3betting range is A2-A5s and some KTo type hands. Some suited connectors at a very low frequency for board coverage, but that's pretty much what it is in a live MTT.

Okay so the board is 478AQ, the hands we have in our range to x/r are (not saying we would always x/r them, but hands that we can x/r) A4/A7/A8o offsuit and suited combos/44/77/88/56s/56o/78s. I think you've underestimated just how many value combos we can x/r here, and as a result we can find plenty of bluffs. There are so many hands like J9s with a fd etc that we can include. Again, I'm not gonna type them all out coz I'm hanging out my arse but when you factor in how many value hands we have here, we can balance it with a lot of bluffs.

This is just completely untrue and with all due respect very bad advice. We literally have no turn leading range here; the turn is much better for his range than ours and thus we don't lead it. It's why the x/r vis a thinking player is a good line. We have just a x/c or x/r range. Again with all due respect the above statement makes the following statement kinda obsolete, particularly the bolded part... (if you're leading sets here and not x/r'ing them then get yourself in the lab asap)

This is the only part I agree with; in hindsight my river sizing is just too small. A few people have said we should shove for like 46k into 28k and I think that in hindsight that's the most optimal line. I also think that subconsciously I was unwilling to jam because 1) it's the Main Event and I wanna stay alive, and 2) people have invested money in me and I was maybe subconsciously scared of being ridiculed for punting it off. Whilst point 1 and 2 are not an excuse for not jamming, it does give some sort of explanation why I was reluctant to do so (I thought for about 60 secs before betting the river, and jamming was a big part of that).

Firstly Pio is installed at home on my PC and I don't have access to it in Vegas. Secondly, as important as these programs are, a percantage of people who use Pio don't use it to maximum effectiveness because they don't know when to deviate from what it says. That's why it's still very important to discuss strat with people and not just take what Pio says as gospel. The second point isn't really about this hand, just moreso a statement about Pio and studying in general. A follow up point is that I will of course Pio this hand as I'm very curious about it, but I'm fairly confident the people I have spoken to about this hand (Svansa, Ishter11, max85, birdayy, bbbissick, AndreasB2424, blakkman08, Rainer Kempe himself etc etc (all fantastic poker players in the modern game)) will give me just as good an answer (if not better) than Pio will. Talking strat and discussing hands with people is still so so important to improving as a poker player.


Totally agree, and kinda embarrassed by my "someone help me out here!" post, although not half as embarrassed as the pre-edited version! Hopefully nobody saw that...

We got a bottle called Effen. Appropriate, as it was Effen expensive!



10/10 bants (srs)



Lmao confirmed F. F for fanny!

Thanks a lot for the kind words. Will expand a little on my future when the trip ends. Not really sure how to word it just now, and a lot of it will depend on how poker goes between now and the end of the trip...

Thanks for the feedback, but please re-read hand 2! The board is A56TQ all spades. We have the 3rd nuts, we didn't call down with like the 5th nuts or something - just in case that changes things.

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Exhausted after all that! Went to grind cash today, first cash sesh in about 4 days and my first sesh where I won >1bi since 27th June (!!!). Booked a nice $4k profit. In the first orbit today this rec opens to 40 off 1k UTG+1 (you could tell he was a proper "barely played poker" rec by the way he was acting). I 3bet KJo to 120, and it folds back to him, he calls. Flop is K98ccx, and he leads 400 w 400 behind. I announce I'm all in, and the BTN then goes "wow, how much?" the fker had coldcalled my 3bet pre and I hadn't even noticed! Thankfully he folded and the rec called w AKo and we're insta down 1kish.

Bled down to -1800 or so at my worst point and then came back strong. I open 88 UTG, BB Australian female reg calls. Flop is QT8r. I cbet 80 into 130, and she makes it 260. I call. She bets 420 into 650ish on a brick turn and we call. River 7x and she bets 1400 into 1500, I don't think about folding or raising and snap. She has KJo.

Few hands later I open KQo in EP to 120, Ukranian reg who is good but insanely aggro calls in the straddle. Flop is Q86r. I cbet small, he calls. Turn brick goes x/x. River 9 and he xs. I bet 500 into 590 and he raises to 1500. Not even thinking about it vs this guy, snap call and he has AJo.

I open red 44 in EP, tight reg calls, tight rec calls, Asian guy who I think is a rec but is pretty decent from what I've seen makes it 300 from BB. I call, reg folds, rec calls. Flop is J54ccx. Rec x's SB, BB bets 500, I call, rec calls. Turn Ac, x's to me and I bet 1420 (prolly too small in hindsight). SB takes a while and eventually jams for 500 more. BB is like how much, looking all pained and stuff. Eventually he folds, I snap and the rec asks for twice which is usually a good sign. I agree and say "I have a set, do you have a flush?" and he says no and the rivers are a red 7 and a red 9 and we win.

Up about 7k at this point. There's an American guy of Indian ethnicity who has bought into the game for 30k, he's splashing about but not terrible. Anyway he opens EP, female Ozzie reg calls, I squeeze QJdd on BTN, they both call. Flop is QJ6hxx. I cbet 300 into 800, only Ozzie calls. Turn Ah and she leads 800. I call. River 5h and she x's and I x and she has AQo. An annoying hand in hindsight. I thought she played rly solid today but think she misplayed that one.

Few orbits later I open J9hh from EP in a straddled pot, nitty rec from 44 hand calls, American Indian calls, Ukranian calls. Flop 288hhx x's round. Jx turn and Indian guy leads, only I call. River 2 and he bets again and I call and he has KJo. I went from -1800 to +6800 to +4000 and given my recent results I was happy to book a win and thus locked it up.

I have a flight home booked for Monday afternoon, but I'm tempted to stay another week. I could do with clawing back some makeup. I had a disaster session at 40/80nl a few days ago that I don't think I updated about and as a result I got a bit of a hole to dig myself out of!

Good session
That Ukrainian Reg has a lot of leaks pre so I was 3b him a lot. He said he plays online lol Also played with the Indian and he’s pretty whale like pre and post.

Stay another week, grind 10/20 imo and crush


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I am not gonna make it a boring quote fight but some of the things you said are really wrong and I am quite surprised to read this from someone playing stakes this high and supposedly ev+. Maybe too much live ****ed up your game, I don't know. Just a few remarks :

Open PioSolver and you will see that if you have a value betting range on the turn, the leading range is always bigger than the check/raising range.
It's quite simple why : - You are oop and you want to build the pot thus you need to start betting
- Although IP has more Asx than us, he is also capped after his flop check back, meaning that he can't bet all of them on the turn or he will be destroyed vs frequent check/raise. But since he cannot bet much of them at all, he will be checking a good chunk of them and we will miss value with our good hands if we just go for a check/raising range. That's where the lead comes into play.
- You can put as much money in the pot by leading as you do by check/raising when overbetting the river (or even having an ovb strat on the turn)

When you know the right strategy in a spot because you worked on it and you are confident in applying it as correctly as it is humanly possible, you don't care about these considerations. You just make the goddamn optimal play.
Again, this goes to show your game deteriorated/was never really taken too seriously.

We are talking about a hand vs one of the best players in the world.
Ofc you need to know the GTO solution in this spot, how could we know if we are to deviate in any direction at all ? This makes no sense.