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09-13-2019 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by GhoulPatrol
The thinking of "I need to move down in stakes, so I'll move down once I lose 5k more" is, imo, dangerous. What are your short and long term goals?
Bankroll back up to 53K. I went from $0 and working at Subway to $53k in 4/5 months. This is why you take aggressive shots in games you have a big edge. Advice like this is terrible imo, no offense. Have a stop loss and be willing to move down and rebuild when a shot take goes bad ofc. But, there's nothing wrong with taking aggressive shots in amazing games and saying I'll stop loss at 5k more. If I listened to advice in this thread I would still be grinding 50NL on PPP. Just sayin. Other than that, life is good. Think I can get to 100K roll by the end of the year. That's the new goal. Let's get it.
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09-13-2019 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Quaddeuce
Bankroll back up to 53K. I went from $0 and working at Subway to $53k in 4/5 months. This is why you take aggressive shots in games you have a big edge. Advice like this is terrible imo, no offense. Have a stop loss and be willing to move down and rebuild when a shot take goes bad ofc. But, there's nothing wrong with taking aggressive shots in amazing games and saying I'll stop loss at 5k more. If I listened to advice in this thread I would still be grinding 50NL on PPP. Just sayin. Other than that, life is good. Think I can get to 100K roll by the end of the year. That's the new goal. Let's get it.
I get where you are coming from and I will not try to change your mindset (even if I am not fully on board and I have for the most part been overrolled for almost the games I have played thus far...), but do you not think it would be wise to put freeze/put inside in some sort of investments 20% of your accumulated roll...? Like stick 10k into some sort of frozen investements with decent returns, as a fallback plan and given that you have been known for past blowups/degen tendencies... Just my 2 cents. And congrats on the past few months bro, you must feel amazing about it
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09-13-2019 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Quaddeuce
Bankroll back up to 53K. I went from $0 and working at Subway to $53k in 4/5 months. This is why you take aggressive shots in games you have a big edge. Advice like this is terrible imo, no offense. Have a stop loss and be willing to move down and rebuild when a shot take goes bad ofc. But, there's nothing wrong with taking aggressive shots in amazing games and saying I'll stop loss at 5k more. If I listened to advice in this thread I would still be grinding 50NL on PPP. Just sayin. Other than that, life is good. Think I can get to 100K roll by the end of the year. That's the new goal. Let's get it.
Controlled shot taking in high ev games is def a good thing although you've had a serious history of unraveling and gambling to chase losses, including very recently. I'm not saying don't take shots, but it is probably safe to say that your personality type is one who should lean towards less shot taking because you can't trust yourself to have the discipline to not chase. I'd also be weary of getting ahead of yourself. I'm sure you have a nice edge in these games you are playing but you are likely on the positive end of variance at the moment. That doesn't take away anything from your abilities or what you've accomplished so far, it's just good to keep in mind so that you don't trip up mentally when the inevitable long downer/break even stretch comes.

Also something to keep in mind is that yes this time shot taking worked out. However it also can quite easily go the opposite way where you keep taking shots that don't work out just purely due to variance. If that happens even a couple times all of a sudden you are making no money for months while money gets spent on life expenses/taxes/whatever. I mean just think how easily things could have been off the rails if you didn't go on an upswing at poker right after dusting off that money in Vegas. You don't want to put yourself back into a position where you are at the mercy of how the cards fall over a short period of time. Wish you continued success going forward. Just make sure you are building sustainable habits and thinking about the big picture.
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09-13-2019 , 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Quaddeuce
Bankroll back up to 53K. I went from $0 and working at Subway to $53k in 4/5 months. This is why you take aggressive shots in games you have a big edge. Advice like this is terrible imo, no offense. Have a stop loss and be willing to move down and rebuild when a shot take goes bad ofc. But, there's nothing wrong with taking aggressive shots in amazing games and saying I'll stop loss at 5k more. If I listened to advice in this thread I would still be grinding 50NL on PPP. Just sayin. Other than that, life is good. Think I can get to 100K roll by the end of the year. That's the new goal. Let's get it.
Sorry for trying to help. I've been a full time pro player for nearly two decades now and have never had to stop playing full time to work at Subway. You seem to have everything all figured out having sunrun for a couple of months and only degened off 20% of your liferoll, so I'll unsub so I don't give you anymore of that terrible advice. Good luck to ya.
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09-13-2019 , 08:50 PM
My bad ghoulpatrol. Re-reading what I wrote, it came off very dickish. I apologize.

Also agree with what others are saying above. I'm definitely running above EV rn and a return down to earth is inevitable. I'll be prepared for it mentally though. I know I'm sun running right now.

As for investing, I have ~20K of my liferoll in btc currently. I know having almost 50% of your liferoll is an LULZ investment strategy but my liferoll is still so small still that I feel like I can YOLO it. Once/if I reach 100K+ I'll start being more careful with it. I don't plan on adding any more to my btc position until my roll is much larger though fwiw.
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09-13-2019 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Quaddeuce
As for investing, I have ~20K of my liferoll in btc currently. I know having almost 50% of your liferoll is an LULZ investment strategy but my liferoll is still so small still that I feel like I can YOLO it. Once/if I reach 100K+ I'll start being more careful with it. I don't plan on adding any more to my btc position until my roll is much larger though fwiw.
Ok, nice. I sold just about all my BTC, as I fear that when the news comes out publicly that Tether is not fully back, BTC will drop like no tomorrow. I am waiting for the dip to buy again. All speculation, of course...
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09-13-2019 , 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Dubnjoy000
Ok, nice. I sold just about all my BTC, as I fear that when the news comes out publicly that Tether is not fully back, BTC will drop like no tomorrow. I am waiting for the dip to buy again. All speculation, of course...
This is a definite possibility but I think with the next halvening happening next year the price will go up a lot in between now and then. I'm very bullish on the future of btc, but it's all speculation on my part, as well.
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09-14-2019 , 02:09 AM
Hey op very inspiring stuff you wrote about here.
I wanna ask you for some advice. If one has a subway income and a $2000 life roll with no motivation to Degen it off in the pits and just play cash games would you suggest them to keep saving up for a bigger roll from a job or jump in and play 1/3 NLH or PLO? those are the only two options where I live. Online poker isn't a option. I can put perhaps half a buyin $150 each week towards the roll from my income. Would you wait until you have a bigger roll to play?
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09-14-2019 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bigbeardonchin
Hey op very inspiring stuff you wrote about here.
I wanna ask you for some advice. If one has a subway income and a $2000 life roll with no motivation to Degen it off in the pits and just play cash games would you suggest them to keep saving up for a bigger roll from a job or jump in and play 1/3 NLH or PLO? those are the only two options where I live. Online poker isn't a option. I can put perhaps half a buyin $150 each week towards the roll from my income. Would you wait until you have a bigger roll to play?
It depends on your skill level. If you're a crusher, 10 buy-ins is enough to never go broke basically playing live 1/3. If you're a slightly winning player, the variance could **** you. If you think you can beat the game, and you really have to be honest with yourself here, then I think a 2k roll is enough.

This is what I would do: Buy in for $200 each session so I had 10 BI's. Stick to NLH and stay away from the PLO until your BR is healthier. Once you reach 3k start buying in for the full $300. Top off when your stack falls below $150. And make sure you pick your spots well, in regards to game selection, because you don't have much room for error.

If you're not sure if you are beating the game and the money is vital to you then I'd probably wait until I had at least 4k, ideally 6k.
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10-07-2019 , 03:12 PM
Have been slipping back into too many bad habits lately. I've been sports betting and degening a bit here and there and thinking it was ok because I've either ran good and won or had self discipline and limited myself to a reasonable loss. Well, last night I went completely off the rails and torched my entire BR on Merge (8K). Posting this to remind myself how shitty this feeling is and not to allow it to happen again. I see my last update was a month ago and BR was at 53K. Before last night, BR was at 63K, now we're back down to 55K. So that's a lot of progress over the past month just torched on fire. Sigh.

Nothing I can do now though. I can only use this as motivation to get better. I've still been crushing it at poker. Everything will happen in due time, I just need to keep reminding myself of that... Life is going well, as well. I've been going hard in the gym 4-5x a week and starting to really love it. I got my testosterone levels checked and I tested at 263 when normal range is 264 to 900 something. I have a doctor appointment later today and am guessing I'll be put on TRT. Kind of excited to see the progress I'll make in the gym when my testosterone is actually at normal levels. Other than that, only a little over 3 months left of probation and I'm a free man. Of course, I procrastinated and didn't do any community service or DUI classes until now. So, I'm cramming all of that in now and staying pretty busy with that for the next couple of months.
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10-08-2019 , 06:24 AM
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10-09-2019 , 05:56 PM
Pretty sick last couple of days...
Last night the Mavericks played the Thunder and the team total o/u was 113.5. With no KP and no Doncic. The three leading minute getters were Ryan Broekhoff, some guy named J. Reaves, and some guy named D. Mathias. A real who's who. So I felt very confident in the Under. So I load 1500 on Bovada to bet it and it tells me "this account is not allowed to make this bet". No idea what was going on there. Maybe too many people were hammering the under. So then load 1500 onto Sportsbook.ag and the max it lets me bet was 200 lol.

Kinda tilting because this seemed like one of those spots that doesn't appear in sports betting very often. Biggest single bet I've made this year was $500 and I was going to bet $1500 on this, that's how confident I was. So anyways, was kind of tilted and said **** it let me see if I can run it up a little bit before cashing back out. Ended up winning 6.8K at blackjack between the two sites and cash it out. The Mavericks under did end up covering by 9.5 points btw. So I missed out on a decent chunk of change by not getting the bet in but it ended up working out for me.

That combined with btc being up $500 today has erased all of my degening losses from the other day. Bankroll is back up to 63-64K range.

Before anyone tells me how stupid I am, I already know. I have been playing with fire lately. This is 2 out of last 3 days that I've been playing high stakes BJ, betting as much as $500 a hand on some hands. I realize I need to chill before I burn myself. I've been very lucky not to get burned yet. And I have been making decisions based on emotions and not being stoic and logical. I'm for real going to chill out on the BJ though. And get back to meditating. That was helping me a lot and I haven't done it in weeks.

On the poker side: I haven't had much motivation to play poker lately. Only playing friday and Saturday the last two weeks. Luckily there's no max where I play and games have been good. So I go in and cover the table, play a few hours, and win 2k+ every session lol. Really need to start putting in hours though.

So that's the plan moving forward from today. I know what I need to do, I just need to implement it. Hopefully I will report back here in a month and be able to say I haven't degened at all and put in decent hours in poker. Let's get it.
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10-09-2019 , 07:24 PM
I'm not a gambling problem expert obv but maybe you should set more reachable goals that slowly change your habits and choices for the better? Maybe therapy would help? You quite clearly have a pretty serious problem man and it's not going to change if you keep to the same pattern over and over.
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10-09-2019 , 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TheTyman9
I'm not a gambling problem expert obv but maybe you should set more reachable goals that slowly change your habits and choices for the better? Maybe therapy would help? You quite clearly have a pretty serious problem man and it's not going to change if you keep to the same pattern over and over.
I've changed my patterns and behaviors hugely over the course of this year. Still have a lot more work to do obv and still have relapses. Maybe therapy would help. Just pointing out I'm not keeping the same patterns over and over. I feel you though. Thanks.
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10-10-2019 , 10:44 AM
I justify my degen sessions on Sportsbook.ag because it's likely the one reason I've never been limited/booted from their poker games.

I regularly place $1000-$2000 bets on sports and have had many $10k+ winning/losing sessions on their blackjack. Their software is the streakiest I've ever seen for virtual blackjack. Luckily, it's gone in my favor more often there than any other site.

I wish you the best of luck in cutting these degen sessions down. It's tough, I'm still going through exactly what you are. When I have a losing session at poker, the thought always crosses my mind how easy it could be to get my $500, $1000, $3000, whatever it is I lost back in a few hands of blackjack. Devils game I tell you.
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10-10-2019 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BeerDrunker
I justify my degen sessions on Sportsbook.ag because it's likely the one reason I've never been limited/booted from their poker games.

I regularly place $1000-$2000 bets on sports and have had many $10k+ winning/losing sessions on their blackjack. Their software is the streakiest I've ever seen for virtual blackjack. Luckily, it's gone in my favor more often there than any other site.

I wish you the best of luck in cutting these degen sessions down. It's tough, I'm still going through exactly what you are. When I have a losing session at poker, the thought always crosses my mind how easy it could be to get my $500, $1000, $3000, whatever it is I lost back in a few hands of blackjack. Devils game I tell you.
Broooooo exactly! Someone that understands <3. Sportsbook RNG on their blackjack is insane. I thought I was crazy for thinking that but it's the streakiest I've ever seen as well. I usually bet bigger when I'm losing to chase losses and bet smaller when I'm winning, so it usually ****s me lol. But I crush the poker on there and haven't been banned for it yet so maybe it's a net positive *shrugs*
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10-10-2019 , 01:50 PM
So I did a thing last night. Played a 2/5 dealer's choice. Games in the mix were NLHE, PLO, and Big O. In for 900, out for 10,400. Biggest single session of my poker career in terms of BB I'm pretty sure. Pic for proof: http://imgur.com/a/yCjslRj

If anybody wants to format it so the pic appears in thread, please be my guest. I can't figure out how to do it through imgur on mobile.

Bankroll 70K now. I think 100k by end of the year might be possible... How sick would it be to go from going busto early in the year, out of action for months, working Subway in June, to 100k by end of the same calendar year.
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10-10-2019 , 03:30 PM
Congrats bro Just couple-paste the forum link in Imgur directly into your 2 + 2 post for pics.

Do you keep a big chunk of your BR unaccessible as to prevent yourself from spewing it away?

GL
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10-10-2019 , 04:28 PM
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10-10-2019 , 04:31 PM
TY Dubnjoy and I will do that. That's a very good idea.
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10-11-2019 , 09:36 AM
I reckon op will make it to 99 thousand and then go bust
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10-11-2019 , 01:11 PM
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I reckon op will make it to 99 thousand and then go bust
I was going to say I reckon you will never make it past the micros but I checked your profile and you're literally a play money pkayer😂��😂
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10-11-2019 , 03:38 PM
Love this thread please keep us updated and good luck on your journey.
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10-11-2019 , 04:34 PM
You should make it your goal to just not go bust again, or maybe something like 75k so if you go on a cold stretch you won’t be disappointed. I think it might be a good idea to have like 50k locked up somewhere like an index fund, although now might not be the best time for that... where it would take a few days to get money out. Maybe like 1 or 3 month GICs, I’m sure there is something. Just to protect yourself if you have a really bad day or week, so you have a few days to put things in perspective. That’s just what I would do because I have been prone to losing 20% of my net worth ($30k twice) where I went crazy and put in a 25k sports get or bacarrat and lost the rest of it.
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10-11-2019 , 06:28 PM
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Love this thread please keep us updated and good luck on your journey.
TY sir and will do!

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You should make it your goal to just not go bust again, or maybe something like 75k so if you go on a cold stretch you won’t be disappointed. I think it might be a good idea to have like 50k locked up somewhere like an index fund, although now might not be the best time for that... where it would take a few days to get money out. Maybe like 1 or 3 month GICs, I’m sure there is something. Just to protect yourself if you have a really bad day or week, so you have a few days to put things in perspective. That’s just what I would do because I have been prone to losing 20% of my net worth ($30k twice) where I went crazy and put in a 25k sports get or bacarrat and lost the rest of it.
I'll be past 75K by end of this weekend😂. No but seriously you and dubnjoy are 100% right. It's a very good idea and I will be doing this soon. I just need to figure out how I want to store my money. Maybe lock box in a bank or casino. Idk about index fund. I would like to invest in something but I'm a finance fish and need to do a lot of research to figure how/what to invest in. Thanks for the comment and advice! What's a GIC btw?
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