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Former APT Champ/crusher turned degen idiot trying to make a comeback Former APT Champ/crusher turned degen idiot trying to make a comeback

07-06-2019 , 09:36 PM
holy hell Quaddeuce! this is one of the most unreal PGCs of all time, despite just being so short.

I remember reading this a long time ago wondering how you ended up. Glad youre alive buddy, sounds like you were in a deep, dark hole. Poker is a cold game, gives and takes away fast.

Busted my $2500 50nl online roll like half a year ago shotting 200nl live and basically quit cards and have just been working a regular job and saving up since. Have had thoughts of whether it was worth it to come back to poker recently and came across this thread, very inspiring.

I wanted to reach out to you and post this to let you know people are rooting for you and supporting you man. Hope you stick to the plan and rules to avoid past mistakes bud, keep crushing.
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07-06-2019 , 11:16 PM
in before quad working at kfc part time.
nothing wrong with working at kentucky fried part time.
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07-07-2019 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Quaddeuce
Well that sucked. -$471. I keep getting put in tough spots and making the wrong decisions lately. Nothing is coming easy. Last 2 hands. 1st hand) 5/5/10 straddle on B. I pot AAxx sb. BB folds. B calls. Flop: 888. I memebet $10. B calls. Turn 10. I bet large B calls. River 10. Board is now 8881010. I bet $200. V pots it to $865. I am leaning towards fold here but I keep thinking V may be spazzing vs the memebet. I level myself into calling. You already know what he has. Memebet cost me $665

Next hand we fold. Then literally very next hand after that we see a 4 way bomb pot with Q246r. $100 in pot and flop is A35r. Old guy pots flop. I call B. Sb is the only other good player in the game and he calls. Turn 6d bringing bdfd. Sb checks. Old guy checks. I bet $330. Sb pots to ~$1400 or whatever it was. He's only ever doing this with the nuts or 44. I fold. He shows 44.

I snap leave after that hand. Was about to tilt so I got out of there. Shot taking didn't go well so I'll just move back down and grind back up. Sticking to the plan. I know a lot of people read this thread because people love to see trainwrecks but it's not going to happen in this thread. Sorry to disappoint.

Edit: I was up at least 1k in EV. Lost 2 $2k pots with ~45% equity where we ran it twice. Lost both run outs both times. Couple other sick spots. Flopped the nuts in a 3b pot. Pot flop and get the 2 whales of the game to call. $800 going to turn. Turn is a flush card and they gii. 2nd nut flush vs nut flush. 7 outs between them. They both 100% would have called turn pot on a blank. Just stuff like that. Could just never get too much momentum going. Was up 1800 at one point but after that it was just swingy AF. Between stuck 1k and up 1k the whole night.
Good time quitting session before hit stop loss because you see you are on tilt. You will be milionaire if you always do this when having a hard day . again easy to say really hard to do .

Q642 hand on A53 you have to raise on flop . Hand is too strong and when someone pots 4way they usually have good hand who does not fold if you raise. On turn you made very good fold and I bet he 447 with the nuts.

AA hand you misplayed river as you already know .
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07-07-2019 , 12:54 AM
How you have motivation to grind small stakes after losing ? To me it was easy do this years ago when I was ''new'' to the game and went broke ''few'' times. I see we are same age and nowadays I find very hard find motivation to grind and rebuild. After 10+ years in the game it is hard to me do this. You are 31 and I imagine you probably have more or less the same experience I got.

For me that is the hardest part nowadays. I went broke last days please give me some magic advice with beautiful words. You are one of the few guys who I could ask this, not many have been in our shoes.

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07-07-2019 , 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by urubu222
How you have motivation to grind small stakes after losing ? To me it was easy do this years ago when I was ''new'' to the game and went broke ''few'' times. I see we are same age and nowadays I find very hard find motivation to grind and rebuild. After 10+ years in the game it is hard to me do this. You are 31 and I imagine you probably have more or less the same experience I got.

For me that is the hardest part nowadays. I went broke last days please give me some magic advice with beautiful words. You are one of the few guys who I could ask this, not many have been in our shoes.
I heard kentucky fried are hiring. short for kf in kfc. Does anyone actually win at poker over a 20 year career at it?
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07-08-2019 , 05:37 PM
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How much meditation do you practice daily/weekly?
Not enough. I try to shoot for 15 minutes a day but invariably end up skipping days often. I need to fix that.
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Originally Posted by iluvcats
holy hell Quaddeuce! this is one of the most unreal PGCs of all time, despite just being so short.

I remember reading this a long time ago wondering how you ended up. Glad youre alive buddy, sounds like you were in a deep, dark hole. Poker is a cold game, gives and takes away fast.

Busted my $2500 50nl online roll like half a year ago shotting 200nl live and basically quit cards and have just been working a regular job and saving up since. Have had thoughts of whether it was worth it to come back to poker recently and came across this thread, very inspiring.

I wanted to reach out to you and post this to let you know people are rooting for you and supporting you man. Hope you stick to the plan and rules to avoid past mistakes bud, keep crushing.
Thanks bro! This really means a lot to me, thank you.
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Good time quitting session before hit stop loss because you see you are on tilt. You will be milionaire if you always do this when having a hard day . again easy to say really hard to do .

Q642 hand on A53 you have to raise on flop . Hand is too strong and when someone pots 4way they usually have good hand who does not fold if you raise. On turn you made very good fold and I bet he 447 with the nuts.

AA hand you misplayed river as you already know .
Yeah AA hand was such an easy fold. Nobody is ever bluffing this spot. Especially live. One of the worst calls of my life easily. I leveled myself so hard thinking that it may be a spazz because of the flop memebet. God damn memebet cost me so much money.

Also agree with your assessment of the other hand. Flop should be a raise 100%. As played, I think I have to fold.

This was 10 hours into the session when these hands happened. I definitely was not on my A game.

Proud of myself for picking up and leaving after that, even though I was stuck.

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Originally Posted by urubu222
How you have motivation to grind small stakes after losing ? To me it was easy do this years ago when I was ''new'' to the game and went broke ''few'' times. I see we are same age and nowadays I find very hard find motivation to grind and rebuild. After 10+ years in the game it is hard to me do this. You are 31 and I imagine you probably have more or less the same experience I got.

For me that is the hardest part nowadays. I went broke last days please give me some magic advice with beautiful words. You are one of the few guys who I could ask this, not many have been in our shoes.
Yeah man I feel like we have a lot in common. It's extremely hard. I think it all comes down to perspective. If you're playing mid/high stakes and making good money the thought of starting over and grinding small stakes and making a fraction of what you are used to is depressing. But, imagine now if you go completely busto, and you have to work a dead-end, soul crushing, slave labor, sh it-pay job for months at a time. And then, one day, you get the opportunity to grind low stakes poker to make a living. It isn't much money, but it's enough to pay the bills and keep you from having to work a real job ever again. From that perspective, you would be pretty ****ing excited for that opportunity, right?

They are both the same thing. It's just all a matter of perspective. For me, gratitude is helping me a lot, with keeping things in perspective. I journal at night and one of the things I do is write 5 things I'm grateful for. 1 of the 5 is always that I am playing poker for a living. Becoming rich and successful is the end goal. But, just being able to play a game we love for a living and not having to work a soul-crushing job is pretty awesome. We're running pretty good in life. We have to keep that in perspective.
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07-08-2019 , 07:39 PM
Gl OP, we have a lot in common. Many times in my life when punting off a roll I've thought that maybe giving up poker is the best, despite being a winning player, but the fact that we can make so much more from poker than a job (in the most simple terms) always drags me back. Looking forward to see how/if you manage to beat the pit games/tilt.
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07-11-2019 , 04:23 AM
The allure of degening was so strong today. I am realizing I just love action. I wasn't even stuck. I was actually up small and not particularly tilted (Ok maybe a little). The games were just so boring today. Nothing happened for hours, it really felt like a grind. Fold, fold, raise take it down, fold. I really love the adrenaline rush you get from playing stakes that if you lose, you really feel the pain.

I mean playing stakes you're well rolled for can be fun too. But, today that was not the case. No tough spots or anything interesting happening for hours. Like I said, I love the action; and today was pure monotony. It was actually the monotony that put me on tilt because I snap quit 6 hours into the session and went to video poker, I'm not going to lie. I played a few hands and lost ~$40 and realized how stupid this was and if I got any more stuck i could go into full degen mode and bust the entire bankroll trying to chase back this lousy $40 loss.

The weird thing is I actually won like $400 today. Never thought I would break my no degening streak on a winning day. Oh well, my willpower is getting stronger, it was actually quite easy to just play a few hands and then quit, even while stuck. I know, I know, I do not want to test the Gods again. It's like an alcoholic who thinks they can take have a few sips and falls off the wagon... So don't worry, dear readers, I won't do that again. Especially because I fly into Vegas tomorrow night. Heading into Vegas thinking about degening is the last thing I need lol.
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07-12-2019 , 12:39 AM
At the airport waiting for my flight to Vegas. Last time I came here I degened off my entire bankroll within the first three nights or so. This time I won't be able to duplicate that feat. Thank God I am on a sick downswing live over the last 10 days. Because of that 70% of my roll is online now.

So I can only degen off this much this time

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07-12-2019 , 04:06 AM
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you must be at least half-smart to have been able to win a tournament in the past, yet you sit down at video poker, possibly the lowest form of gambling entertainment i can imagine. WTF
Idk Allen Kessler seems to love it
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07-12-2019 , 03:23 PM
Hey man, I read your entire posting in one sitting, you have one heck of a story and I don't say that often on PGC! You're very self-aware on your leaks and I think a lot of the people here are being genuine in their advice to you.

I live in Vegas and am headed back there tonight. Would your schedule allow for coffee or dinner, my treat?
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07-12-2019 , 03:28 PM
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Hey man, I read your entire posting in one sitting, you have one heck of a story and I don't say that often on PGC! You're very self-aware on your leaks and I think a lot of the people here are being genuine in their advice to you.

I live in Vegas and am headed back there tonight. Would your schedule allow for coffee or dinner, my treat?
For sure dude. Let's meet up. PM me your # and I'll shoot u a text.
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07-12-2019 , 08:24 PM
GL in Vegas! Stay outta the pits and crush some wsop fishys!
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07-13-2019 , 01:32 AM
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GL in Vegas! Stay outta the pits and crush some wsop fishys!
Thanks bro!
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07-14-2019 , 08:41 PM
I am so god damned tilted right now. I've been playing with a maniac whale the last two days and finally start to catch some cards the last couple hours. I have 2.2k stack at 2/5 he covers. We gii QQ vs J2s for 4.5k pot and he makes a flush. I'm only in the game for 600 but if I hold I'm up 4k for the day. I leave the table to go check into my hotel room and cool off. It takes so long to check in by the time i come back my seat is gone. You have 15 minutes when you bust out. I was gone 17. Floor says he will put me at the top of the list. No one is leaving that table. Whale has 6k in front now. I won't get back in the game before he leaves or gives it away. **** my ****ing life.
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07-14-2019 , 10:29 PM
Update: I got a seat in the game and was able to play for an hour before the maniac left. Won a little.
+$103 for the day
Disappointing but that's a pretty good result when you lose a 4.5k pot.

Also super proud of myself that I wasn't even tempted to go degen or tilt and spew at poker after all that ****. I think I'm done punting off rolls guys.
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07-14-2019 , 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Quaddeuce
I am so god damned tilted right now. I've been playing with a maniac whale the last two days and finally start to catch some cards the last couple hours. I have 2.2k stack at 2/5 he covers. We gii QQ vs J2s for 4.5k pot and he makes a flush. I'm only in the game for 600 but if I hold I'm up 4k for the day. I leave the table to go check into my hotel room and cool off. It takes so long to check in by the time i come back my seat is gone. You have 15 minutes when you bust out. I was gone 17. Floor says he will put me at the top of the list. No one is leaving that table. Whale has 6k in front now. I won't get back in the game before he leaves or gives it away. **** my ****ing life.
Disgusting brother. Shake it off and get some rest, forget about loss chasing.

Edit: Just saw your update. Good to see. Working at Subway probably made a tattoo on your brain to never punt a roll again lol.
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07-15-2019 , 05:28 PM
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Also super proud of myself that I wasn't even tempted to go degen or tilt and spew at poker after all that ****. I think I'm done punting off rolls guys.
Small breaks are so crucial to avoid going on tilt. Good job not punting the roll. Even though it would have been ideal to stay in the game, you being able to identify your need to leave the table and successfully act on it can be seen as a major positive. Lots of people are unable to do that and end up regretting it afterwards.
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07-16-2019 , 07:14 AM
Same thing happened tonight. GOAT 2/5 game at Caesar's Palace. Got stuck 2k. Finished up 1k. I'm the end boss at Caesar's Palace 2/5 now. Any Vegas pros want some I'll be there all week.
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07-16-2019 , 01:24 PM
A hand from last night:
2/5 mandatory straddle. 2800 eff.
Hero is utg straddle.
One limp. Raise to 35. B is some famous director. He flats. Sb flats.
Hero squeezes J9cc to 195. Everyone folds except B.
Flop: QQ5ccd. We cb 1/3 pot. 160ish I guess. B calls.
Turn: 8d. We continue w/ half pot. 400ish into 800. B calls.
River: 9d. We check. B bets 1k into about 2k.
We call and he shows 44.
9s are good for a 4k pot.
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07-16-2019 , 01:30 PM
Congratulations on the win, but be careful playing under rolled in an effective 5-10 game where all you would need is a bout of run bad/tilting to lose your composure/BR... And make sure you are not seeking action, which seems to be the case... This is all coming from good heart/past experience, GL friend
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07-16-2019 , 01:42 PM
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This is all coming from good heart/past experience, GL friend
No I know it, bro. I follow your thread and you're a good dude <3 Also you are 100% right. I got wayyyy too OOL last night. Game was mandatory shots, mandatory straddle, bomb pots every dealer change, and 5 out of 9 of us were playing 72 game. Obviously I got super OOL lol. It made for a fun and massively +EV opportunity but I do need to tighten up a bit. That could really go south if I'm not careful.

Anyone want to follow me on snapchat and watch the debauchery unfold it's joshstef87 btw. I have all of the shenanigans on there. It paints a pretty epic story tbh lol.
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07-17-2019 , 07:27 AM
+4.5K tonight
+500 caesar's palace 1/2
+2k bellagio 5/10
+2k aria 2/5

Tired and going to bed now. But I'll share one interesting hand where I owned a guy at 1/2:

Limp. I make it 12 w/ 56s. B calls and aggro fish in BB call. Limper calls.
Flop 339r. Check to me. I cb 17. Fold. Aggro fish bb calls. Limper calls.
Turn 2. Check to me. I check back.
River 3. Fish leads 80 into 90. Limper folds. I raise to 200 with 6 high. Fish snap folds.

Rekt
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07-17-2019 , 05:43 PM
Some chip porn pics from the last night or two:











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07-18-2019 , 05:04 AM
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in before quad working at kfc part time.
nothing wrong with working at kentucky fried part time.
Another +1k today. Remote is going to be severely disappointed following this thread
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