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Originally Posted by andees10
Congrats on finding yourself what seems to be a little goldmine
Our call down range should also be tighter since he started cbetting multiway compared to hu.
Could also think about x/jamming river some of the time. I think 77/88 is probably a turn fold (or raise) so this may be the best hand to do it with.
Tough spot I'm not really sure.
Yeah Pio says to call down or raise river like 20% of the time, granted that tree wasn't quite reflective of the exact spot.
Anyway, I folded river and villain had KTo with Th. Don't really expect population to spack out as much as this guy did but ye idk.
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Piosolver Session Review
So I've just finished up my first proper Pio session. First thing I learnt is that not being able to run scripts is a total *****. I was under the impression that the version I got was fully scriptable but apparently it isn't. I don't think the extra $300 is worth it for me rn to upgrade but will just manually do 5-10 flops during study sessions. The sims I've been running for 1% accuracy with fairly narrow ranges have been solving fairly quickly so I'm not too fussed.
So I decided I wanted to work on UTG RFI vs IP CC stuff today because that's a really high frequency spot I'm seeing a ton of on Pokermaster. Opening from early and then a loose/passive (sth like 57/6) will CC IP. Usually 2-3 other callers as well but for the sake of simplicity I obv just looked as if it was me vs 1 IP caller.
First thing I did was set up a spreadsheet with 10 flops. For each flop I estimated OOP's equity, cbet frequency, and then of that total frequency, what frequency I cbet 60% and what freq we use 75%. I picked these two sizings because they're my default bet sizings on PM. Although I'd really like to use a 1/3PSB sizing, population seems verry spazzy vs this sizing and so I think there's merit to just using more "standard" cbet sizing because they usually play more straight forward vs it. In almost all spots I looked at, Pio chose 60% sizing over a 75% sizing for flop cbet. So basically I've simplified it down to a checking strat and a cbet 60% strat and then deviating on textures where necessary. After I plug my estimates in, I'll solve the spot and then look at the actual numbers and put them into the spreadsheet and compare.
I don't think I gain much from estimating equities generally speaking. I think looking at hot/cold equity is more important and so I won't be doing equity estimates in future.
My main findings from today's session were:
On A
5
3
flop, I thought OOP would be cbetting this at a high frequency but I learnt this is bad and that we should be checking range on this flop. The reason I'm guessing is because we simply have less Ax hands - IP cold caller will have all suited aces (we won't) and more offsuit combos. The next thing I learnt was that on a K
Q
J
flop, we should be checking range as well. I thought we'd want to be cbetting range small but this apparently isn't so (at least not for the ranges I plugged in). I won't have the offsuit combos of AT, villain will. I also won't have the 9Ts, villain will. I also won't have offsuit combos of KQ, QJ, KJ where villain will.
So my gameplan for tomorrow is to pay particular attention to spots where I'm OOP UTG RFI vs an IP CC range. Hopefully I can get some boards like the above two and then consciously make the decision to check instead of bet - consciously doing something different. By actually implementing what I've learnt, I'll actually become a better player so I'm looking very much forward to that.
The other findings I wanted to highlight to myself were which boards I'm betting 100% frequency on and WHY. Of the 10 boards I did, below are the 4 that were 100% cbets.
Q
5
2
Why: Because we have all of the suited Qx hands (minus QTs), and the 5 and 2 don't really interact very well with villain's range. We also have a higher density of strong Qx, overpairs villain doesn't have.
(btw if anything I'm saying here is completely wrong or I've missed out something important, please let me know. I'm largely still guessing).
9
7
3
Why: We have all overpairs, villain doesn't. Villain should have a ton of offsuit broadway combos they'll have to fold immediately (bit of a disaster if they float a bunch of them, part of the reason why I opt for 3/5ths psb sizing).
K
7
4
Why: We have all the suited Kx combos as well as AK whereas villain prob doesn't have AK. We have less offsuit broadway combos like QJo AJo ATo etc that just have to fold.
J
7
6
Why: We have all overpairs, v doesn't. We have less hands like A8s/A5s that just have to fold immediately and don't have the KQo type hands that also just have to fold. Again, not sure on this one, largely guessing.
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What I found real interesting was that even just from my first session, I am starting to think differently about ranges. I'm visualizing them more clearly with much more detail. For the K
Q
J
flop, previously my thought process was nothing more than "we have all the sets, board is good, let's bet". But now I can look at it and think, well we actually have zero combos of the nuts on this board since we're not opening ATs from UTG on 9 handed PM tables and we don't open ANY of the offsuit combos. That's something that previously wouldn't have crossed my mind. Previously I thought we have an advantage when it came to the hot end of the equity distribution because we have more sets but now I have come to realise the massive oversight I made with regard to straight combos and how our overall strategy changes to reflect our huge deficit of nutted hands on this board.
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Plan for tomorrow, Monday 26th:
Get up prob around 11am-12pm, sun for a bit, either have breakfast at home or head straight to the gym. Gym will be leg day I imagine. Will look to get the platform shoes out and smash some deadlifts. Come home, post workout, and then start the grind.
8 hours volume tomorrow. With a particular focus on UTG vs IP CC ranges and trying to identify the two major spots I looked at today. I might put the card matrices of the two ranges below my tables while I play just as a reminder to make sure I get these spots right when they crop up.
Gl all for the coming week!