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02-11-2018 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
BTW....I would rather stick a hot poker in my eye than grind online poker full time. Staring at a computer and glancing back and forth between 4-6+ tables for hours on end. Waiting and waiting for people to act because they are playing way more tables than they can keep up with. Playing super tight ranges and hardly ever getting to play creative hands. UGH! Not for me.

I hope it works out for you and I hope you are happy with it, but I suspect you'll tire of it quickly.
BTW.... I would rather stick a hot poker in my eye than grind LIVE poker full time. Staring at a DEALER and glancing back and forth between 4-6 DIMWITS ON MY TABLE for hours on end. Waiting and waiting TO PLAY 15 HANDS PER HOUR. OPEN LIMPING EVERY HAND. UHG! Not for me.
02-11-2018 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by samcx
Innnnn. Nice pad mate. GLGL.
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Originally Posted by Scarecrow_
In again although cg not my format!!

Best of luck amigo!!
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Originally Posted by Nefirmative
In. Gl. Smart process and achievable goals!
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Originally Posted by wj294
Glgl crush it
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Originally Posted by mojojo16
Gl bud, loved your last thread and will definitely follow along
Thanks homies. <3

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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
You're a very interesting person and quite impressive for a 23 year old. My hat is off to you.
Congrats on getting most of your money out of Crypto at a smart time.

$35 per week on coffee? Surely you can cut back there especially if you're playing from home.
Cheers, Mike. I appreciate that. Was also pretty lucky to get out when I did, nothing more, nothing less. Luck.

Also I remember people saying my coffee expenses are way too high when I made my last PGC thread hahah. Thing is, I'm extremely picky re coffee. If it's not barista made, I don't enjoy it half as much. But maybe I should invest in a cheap coffee machine now that I have my own place.

Will keep an eye out for a cheap one next time I'm at the shops.

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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
The smartest (luckiest?) thing to do was get out at 19k and get back in at 6k, nothing else Mike
Yeah I got out at 15k. Still have like $4k in BTC/ETH but will just hodl til the price is a bit better.

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Looks like a solid plan laid out, I'd get PIO right off the bat if I was you though, you'll find the time you spend reviewing your sessions is way more productive. Also less casein, more plant proteins please
Yeah my issue re getting Pio right now is that I am not convinced I'll benefit a huge amount from it. The reason being, the games I'm playing in are full of 58/8, 35/25, and 14/12 guys - mostly Chinamen taking weird lines with weird hands. Very difficult for me to solve for these ranges and I think my time initially will be better spent coming up with solid overall strategies against each of these player types and then adjusting to the fact that there's an ante etc.

But I will definitely get it, sooner or later.

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Originally Posted by AlwaysMars
Glgl man. Will be following.
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Originally Posted by Skorfix
Glgl
Ty ty!!!

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Originally Posted by SalmoTrutta
Glgl!

Imho the obvious best approach here is to bite the bullet on coaching and setting up a good pio routine right out of the gate. It's a bit of a pita to part with some cash ofc but I don't need to tell someone interested in investments how huge it is to make sure you improve as early as possible if you plan to put in good volume over the next couple of years. Just my 2c ofc, but I think it's more rational and smart than risking slipping into a place where playing meh to "ok" will suffice in soft games and make you pleased with way less than what could have been.
Yeah man and if I was grinding on Stars or even Ignition, I would 100% have snap bought Pio right from the get go. But as I mentioned above, I'm going to spend most of my time figure out software, figuring out population, and then adjusting to weird lines from a very passive player pool.

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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
Nobody times it perfectly. Especially both ways (and we dont yet know if $6000 is the low).

Besides in Meale's current situation, getting a chunk of money back into Crypto isnt a great idea at all. He got in and out at good times. Now if he crushes online right off the bat, putting a percentage of that profit back into Bitcoin would be acceptable but I would only do it below $7000.
Yeah I'd initially planned on getting back into Crypto sooner rather than later but due to the nature of these clubs, I have to split my bankroll out across a number of accounts and so I don't really have much money lying around that could be in crypto. Maybe toward the end of the year if things go well.

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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
BTW....I would rather stick a hot poker in my eye than grind online poker full time. Staring at a computer and glancing back and forth between 4-6+ tables for hours on end. Waiting and waiting for people to act because they are playing way more tables than they can keep up with. Playing super tight ranges and hardly ever getting to play creative hands. UGH! Not for me.
Hahah mate I love that ****. I love being comfortable at home, not waiting on wait lists, not having drunkards screaming and shouting on a Friday/Saturday night. "Waiting for people to act" is a hundred times worse in live poker obviously because online you can just look at another table. There's no boring bits basically.

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I hope it works out for you and I hope you are happy with it, but I suspect you'll tire of it quickly.
I hope so too! I'm hoping I don't get too tilted with the dodgy software.

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Originally Posted by baannii4
in and gl

highly disagree with the pio thing. it's not going to help you vs the pool. best thing u can do is get the hand converter asap and review heaps of HH from your sessions and figure out the best ways to play against population. if it turns out the population is actually pretty good then pio might be a good idea but i highly doubt it
Yeah pretty much my thoughts exactly. The average "reg" in these games is very different to your average Stars reg. And I think my overall strategy will be extremely exploitative.

I also got a system error every time I tried to install Hand2Note and couldn't figure out how to get that software working on my PC. So I've literally just reinstalled Windows and hopefully I get it sorted quickly. Because I may well need that converter as you say!

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Originally Posted by SalmoTrutta
I don't think anyone is suggesting sitting down to memorize reasonable equilibria strats baannii.
I'm not sure how beneficial Pio would be since it's so difficult to put in accurate ranges for my villains. I know it'd definitely help at least somewhat though, which is why I want to get it.

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Originally Posted by tellypl
LETS GET IT
Good to have you in here bruv. <3

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Originally Posted by omgwasabi
Well, this could be interesting!
Good luck
Thank you!

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Originally Posted by DrTJO
Subbed. Plan on eating any greens? Anyhow, much respect for how you’re putting your ideas into motion. GL.
No greens whatsoever. I know that's real bad but I really cbf cooking anymore. I was talking to mum last week and she said she'd cook me up proper meals once a week if I paid for the ingredients and containers. I snapcalled obv so hopefully that kicks off shortly and I'm able to get a bit more variety in the diet.

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Plans for the forthcoming week - 12/02-19/02

Okay so obv we need 60 hours of poker in. I want a minimum of 52 of those hours to be volume and then the remainder to be study/review. Here's the breakdown.

Monday - {errands: sign up for gym, call Optus and have them set up internet, buy a new mouse - my current one is wiggin out on Windows 10}, I'm also going to try get up early-ish to reset my body clock (woke up at 6pm today, whoops). Will also shoot for 8 hours volume and 1 hour review/study today.
Tuesday - 9 hours play, 1 hour review/study
Wednesday - 9 hours play, 1 hour review/study
Thursday - 9 hours play, 1 hour review/study
Friday - DAY OFF | PARTY | DRINKING | FRIENDS | CHEAT MEAL
Saturday - 9 hours play, 1 hour review/study
Sunday - 9 hours play, 2 hours review/study

That'll look like 53 hours volume and 7 hours review/study for a total of 60 hours. I also want to get in the gym each day this week excluding Friday. This will be difficult for sure but I'm keen to throw myself right into the deep end.
02-11-2018 , 11:43 AM
reading your write up is actually really motivating lol. regarding food it could be a good idea to pre cook some meals on ur offday sometime in the future to save money and get proper nutrition. also i dont think anyone's mentioned it and you probably have some idea but grinding 9 hours online is not the same as grinding 9 hours live. you will face something like 20-30x more decisions over the time frame playing online and it can be mentally draining
02-11-2018 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
That's not what I meant. I havent played much online in the past 5 years but when I have it seems most people are playing super TAG stats like 15/12. Most hands are very similar. Lots of preflop raises and everyone folding. Sometimes one guy calls and folds to a Cbet. From what Ive seen, that's probably 75% of hands right there unless things have changed recently.
Naaah, mate 4 tables of Zoom is actually so fun. Get into heaps of interesting spots and you're actually playing real poker. LLSNL is mostly boring ABC lines because they're the most profitable.

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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
Some people seem to misunderstand how PIO should be used, I mostly use it to get an idea of the EV of certain of my combos in different situations so that I can better know how much I can deviate when I go full explo, you can use nodelock if you have very precise read on population. Anyway I'm not a fan of having a super exploitative approach as default, I think being somewhat balanced to start off and then adjusting against a specific player (not population) is a lot better.
I think it's kind of hard not to start off with a highly XPLO strat in general. Like opening 5x and playing ABC vs the passive tards and then a bit more balanced vs the guys with more normal looking stats. Frankly, I'm not sure what's the best approach at this point in time. I will get Pio eventually though and I know it'll definitely be beneficial - I just think slightly less beneficial in the games I play.

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Originally Posted by hurtNCYDE
Subbed. Good luck
<3

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Originally Posted by baannii4
i did not imply that?

OP using PIO vs chinese fish would be the same as me opening my laptop at a 1/3 live game and running sims on my river bet/call range vs a nit

PIO can be useful if OP wants to get better at poker theory on the side and he might even get some benefit from node locking certain pop tendencies but his goal is profit and his time will be spent WAY more efficiently actually analysing HH and stats
Yeah I really can't argue with that at all and this is basically my position at this point in time.

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Originally Posted by baannii4
BTW.... I would rather stick a hot poker in my eye than grind LIVE poker full time. Staring at a DEALER and glancing back and forth between 4-6 DIMWITS ON MY TABLE for hours on end. Waiting and waiting TO PLAY 15 HANDS PER HOUR. OPEN LIMPING EVERY HAND. UHG! Not for me.
Yeah it's not for everyone hah :')
02-11-2018 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
In gl
Cheers Mas <3

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Originally Posted by baannii4
reading your write up is actually really motivating lol. regarding food it could be a good idea to pre cook some meals on ur offday sometime in the future to save money and get proper nutrition. also i dont think anyone's mentioned it and you probably have some idea but grinding 9 hours online is not the same as grinding 9 hours live. you will face something like 20-30x more decisions over the time frame playing online and it can be mentally draining
I'm glad. But yes, you're absolutely right re that. I'm actually very nervous about the forthcoming month. Grinding 9+ hours a day WILL be a ***** slog but hopefully it expedites the process of getting my leg up on these games and I can work at a slower pace when I'm established at 400NL.
02-11-2018 , 11:50 AM
Nice layout of the thread. Subbing! Good luck on your goals, I hope you smash it!
02-11-2018 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by baannii4
BTW.... I would rather stick a hot poker in my eye than grind LIVE poker full time. Staring at a DEALER and glancing back and forth between 4-6 DIMWITS ON MY TABLE for hours on end. Waiting and waiting TO PLAY 15 HANDS PER HOUR. OPEN LIMPING EVERY HAND. UHG! Not for me.
Touche

15 per hour is a bit of an exaggeration though.
02-11-2018 , 12:13 PM
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02-11-2018 , 12:29 PM
RE: Coffee expenses. Unless you're getting lattes, etc, the differences between average home coffee and barista made are 1) High quality freshly ground beans, and 2) Coffee that hasn't been sitting on a hotplate getting burnt.

Your solution is to order high quality beans (IDK what is good in Oz. you might have to work through a few before you find your go-to), buy a cheap coffee grinder so you can grind fresh for every pot, and (most importantly) get a thermal carafe coffee maker, not one with a warmer. Once you have those three things, you'll be making barista quality coffee at home for a fraction of the cost.
02-11-2018 , 12:46 PM
cool thread meale, gl mate
02-11-2018 , 01:13 PM
I'm intrigued by the whole mechanics of an Aussie pro grinding online. Are there any other similar pgc's running at the moment?? I've got a whole heap of questions, but I guess if you are going to posting HH, some of them will be answered pretty soon anyway.

Good luck of course.
02-11-2018 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by baannii4
i did not imply that?
My bad, it's just hard to compute when someone points at what you feel is your biggest time saver for casual hh checkup and suggests it's a time drain. But let's agree to disagree, back to lurking, gl Meale!
02-11-2018 , 01:29 PM
in, gl!

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Originally Posted by DrTJO
Subbed. Plan on eating any greens? Anyhow, much respect for how you’re putting your ideas into motion. GL.
02-11-2018 , 01:38 PM
good luck mang. I really miss playing on line. I love the sterility of it. No BS - no energy suck of the casino environment, no venom from the bitter regs, etc.

As others have mentioned the online grind is much more fatiguing that live (although you are young so yer brain prolly can handle it more than my old rusted out one)

best wishes
02-11-2018 , 02:02 PM
Sub'd GLGL
02-11-2018 , 02:21 PM
Good luck!
02-11-2018 , 02:21 PM
In! gl bro will be following.
02-11-2018 , 03:38 PM
Good luck!
02-11-2018 , 04:29 PM
Solid looking place man, here we go!
02-11-2018 , 04:43 PM
subbing of course - crush it bro!
02-11-2018 , 04:53 PM
good luck meale, just make sure you put in your study time and results will come!
02-11-2018 , 05:50 PM
Get an aeropress, make your own coffee, save literally hundred bucks a month
Buy the Monin syrups and you basically have your own Starbucks coffee all year round

Subbed and gl
02-11-2018 , 05:54 PM
really interesting, will be following. good luck!
02-11-2018 , 06:19 PM
is that pppoker? and have you been making money on there? Friend of mine got me into it seems relatively soft for the most part. Easy way to get that 220$ if you ask me Best of luck will be following.

      
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