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08-23-2013 , 02:01 AM
GL op. Suppose it's not the end of the world if you bust this roll if you can get a backer easy enough or have one lined up.

Will follow the thread and hope you do well!
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08-23-2013 , 03:10 AM
GL!
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08-24-2013 , 05:52 PM
Hi guys I'm back again, this time with a graph!

I arrived in Malta this afternoon after partying with some of my friends and skipping my nigh sleep unfortunately. I got in bed for 2 hours until I was woken up by some fireworks. Apparently there is some kind of festival going on here...

I screwed up my upswing of the first day a bit that same night. Ending up 2k in ev and up 1.5k in net winnings. From now on I'll be posting graphs of my sessions. Here is the graph that it's mainly about. Unfortunately I play several computers and several networks, so this one alone doesn't show the 150k I was talking about, but if need be I'll upload all the graphs. Hopefully you guys are getting the point after this one!

Currently in a session in which I'm up 350$ Netto and neutral in EV. Hope to break the 10k mark within 7 days (at 5k now). Will be putting in around 100 hours this week so I can't put the blame on the time investment.

Here is the graph:

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08-24-2013 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by PecuniaNonOlet
Yes my bankroll management is way too aggressive in the start, but I'd rather be broke and looking for a backer than stuck at 200plo for 3 months
If you can find a backer that easily there shouldn't be much wrong with it I guess... but you better be sure about it imho.

Also your pics are a bit tilting to look at, might want to upload them on tinypic.com instead and make them larger as well.

GL sir.
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08-24-2013 , 07:50 PM
@cbt, You are right about that I should have a backer already for when things go wrong, will look into that the next few days. Thanks for the tip about tiny.com, will post the next graphs through that site from now on!

up 1851 netto at the moment and 162 in EV
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08-25-2013 , 12:08 AM
At the moment I am wrapping up my 7 hours session after my power nap. Six in the morning here so time to go to bed. Curious what time I'll be waking up after missing the night. Hopefully around 4 in the afternoon so that I can enjoy the sun a bit. Was watching the 2nd season of suits, which I started watching after I was introduced to the series on the airplane to my trip to Sri Lanka. I know I'm very very late with it, but it's a great series in my opinion and recommend it to everyone who has not watched it yet.

The session went very good, after winning decent money I decided to target some fish at somewhat higher stakes and that went better than expected, so closing the computer with a very satisfied feeling. I'm hoping for a similar score tomorrow and then I can start dreaming about buying rachel with the money that I'll earn this year.

Here are the graphs:






If you guys have any questions please ask them, I'm planning on mixing in some personal stuff as it'll be pretty boring to only upload my sessions every day. cu tomorrow!
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08-25-2013 , 05:49 AM
for someone not wanting to reveal SN or sites you are on, you know everyone can see it at the bottom of the screen, that you play on 888 and your SN is novaseline
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08-25-2013 , 07:05 AM
I think with that BRm ur gonna go broke and playing push fold is death seem blokes with 80 k on the site then run bad and donate to the puish fold community
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08-25-2013 , 08:07 AM
@Silent-Ghome, yeah guess it's not that much of a difference after all, not that I did it on purpose hehe, but was going to happen anytime soon I was afraid..

@Leggieblufs1, I hope I can prove you wrong, but I know the odds are against me. As long as I keep on picking the right games and avoid the higher ones (25/50 and 15/30 are obviously too high with a 20k roll) I think I still stand a chance. Hopefully you'll stick around to see me proving you wrong (or right).

I'm almost at the 10k mark at 888, as this was my weekly goal I'm aiming for between 16-20k for next sunday. I'm off now for some breakfast in the sun (fireworks woke me up at 2 pm unfortunaly) and some grocery shopping. Will start my session in about one and a half hour and probably play the rest of the day. Graphs will show up soon!
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08-25-2013 , 01:38 PM
Hi guys back again for an update!

So just before I went out for shopping and lunch I played just a few hands before my iphone was loaded and I was on the most extreme heater I could wish for. Here is the graph:




Returned at the tables after that and the poker god decided that two sessions running above EV was more than enough. It started off rough but I managed to stabilize my EV winnings. My netto winnings however, were running into the red faster and faster. Although I'm capable of taking losses with minimum influence on my game since I've been gaining and losing such big figures, it started to get a bit frustrating when I reached -4k. Just at that point lady luck decided to help me out a bit and this was the result:



While I was writing this down the netto line even stabilized even more:



I was hoping anyone can provide me some music mix on youtube or something. I'm into RnB so hopefully I'm not the only one, but other mixes are appreciated as well!
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08-31-2013 , 03:38 PM
Hi guys, just went broke. Ran 10k under EV since I got in Malta. I'll be trying to search a backer now. Here are my graphs from both PLO and Holdem:





If you are interested, please add DirkGerritse93 on Skype!

Last edited by PecuniaNonOlet; 08-31-2013 at 03:47 PM.
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08-31-2013 , 04:37 PM
wow sorry to hear that man :C
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08-31-2013 , 04:57 PM
gl
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09-03-2013 , 04:35 PM
told ya bro. sigh

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so after this massive downswing you still dont understand the importance of BRM?

if you think BRM is just about the financial risk you have much to learn.

hint: theres a level of comfort that comes from playing in games you are properly rolled for.

also did you mention how many hands you played total before the downswing started? we need real info to give you solid advice and cheer for you.

hard to cheer for someone when they give every indication of a noob fish whining about his broken heater.
good job though...at least nobody will question your heart....
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09-03-2013 , 04:45 PM
R&B is no good for you
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09-03-2013 , 05:32 PM
you make me sick man! Learn from your mistakes!!! Ask a backer for a plo200 BR and grind your way up! The other guy was right! Block yourself from each limit until your reach the proper bankroll. At least, AT LEAAAAAAAST, 50BI and thats already aggro!
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09-09-2013 , 12:25 AM
BABOOMMM

I'm back for more anti-BRM stories! hehe just kidding. I found myself a backer and it went quite easily as I hoped. He backs me for 200plo-1kplo (short buy in when soft table). At least, this was the case the 4th of September when he send me a substancial amount that should keep me going for some time. I had a rough start and was getting on the bad side of set-ups and running horribly in 4-bet+ pots. Then things started to change...

Played 12 hours pretty much every day and was doing my A-game most of the time. The backer is a respected high stakes player, so I was able to send him all the questionable HH for him to analyse. This pushed me into the right direction. After winning some money (and running quite a bit above EV) I stepped up the stakes to hunt down some weaker players. This went well and lady luck was paying back some debts she had on me.

The fact that I took breaks at the right time and didn't forget to relax (I did 14-15 hours of grinding the week before, and unfortunately not successful in netto winning, so I really needed this). A combination of all the above resulted in my session on 888 today. I played like god, I ran like god and this is what you get if you do:



I want to thank my backer for the trust he had in me. I know all bankroll nits are right, but it's not they quickest way to get at the point I'd like to be. So after all going broke (winning huge in EV anyway) wasn't too bad as long as I had the guarantee of being backed. I hope to be winning loads in EV the next couple of days and that this thread lives up a bit! Any questions/advice from me for you/advice from you for me please don't hesitate and post your thoughts.

This is a post-backed graph (so from the 4th of September):





I'm also playing on another network and I'm down $2.5k netto and something similar in EV. The total rakeback is approximately $2.5k. Hopefully you guys enjoyed reading.

May the odds be ever in you favor!
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09-09-2013 , 12:58 AM
Spoiler:
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You realize that you're barely breakeven or so at mid/low-high stakes where you play most of your hands right? And your winnings come from a few hundred hands at the higher stakes where you're running way ahead of EV.

Anyway GL GL.
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09-09-2013 , 01:09 AM
Am I running above EV?!

Please note that this is not ever 1/10 of the amount that I ran under EV, so I think your remarks are a bit silly. Especially taking in account that graphs are at this page proving I'm a big winner at mid/low stakes but w/e

I think this remark would've more to the point if the sample makes any sense, but at the moment, it isn't...
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09-09-2013 , 01:51 AM
haha you are silly son

the sample you're showing for PLO is not even relevent of your winrate, nothing has been proven, best of luck I suppose

no idea why you want to rush things, do you owe money to someone or something? there's absolutely no reason for you not to be disciplined
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09-09-2013 , 05:55 PM
hes a crackhead thats why hes addicted to the CRACK of online poker(short stack PLO)
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09-09-2013 , 06:14 PM
150k downswong graph?

Entartaining thread.
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09-10-2013 , 12:15 AM
@Hebrebre, it's in the thread! (don't have all my hands here in Malta)

today's session:



Finals for the field hockey tournament tomorrow, so cannot grind as many hours as the past few days. Cu guys tomorrow!

@MerginHos0n24s, plz go back to grinding 200plo with a winrate of 2 bbs/100 again!
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09-10-2013 , 01:19 PM
2bbs/100 at 200plo is better than busting
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09-10-2013 , 07:10 PM
hes butt-sore cause I called him out for being a degen. its almost as if he thinks BRM is something for the weak-hearted and judging by his 2bb/100 comment....he doesnt understand what sustainable results are in the long term.

Pecunia-
go back to high stakes PLO where you run good shortstacking for a week and suddenly think you're a big winner.

GL man! you'll certainly need it
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