Hello Folks!

I am finally decided to step up my game and hold a record of what I´m doing. Obviously I´m having big leaks in my game and seemingly endless flaws in the way i play and my mindset. After going broke for a million times and yes you probably think here we go another fish .....I decided to approach the whole poker thing in a different way. I read a lot of books, watched tutorial videos, read some threads but after all i never really deeply applied what i have come across or at least not in a way it changed my situation dramatically. So after researching private coaching or coaching for profits, it seems a tatch to expensive for now. I guess i have to start grind up the micros and improve by myself with dicipline, brain, and be accountable to what i do. So here I am starting a thread about my up and downs and I will try to post everytime after i played a session.
So this thread will include graph, handreviews, stradegy, and maybe some other stuff. (unlikely videos etc.)

Please feel free to ask any questions or answer my questions i will put up.
Furthermore if you have advise in any form, well don´t hold it back....

Alright so another Fish is about to leave the water and become a fisherman .....

Current bankroll PS: 25,02$ (not sure if i should include VVPs and or reward points to this ....let me know)
Current stakes: PLO2

definitely include starscoin in ur roll

thank you pokerplayinggamble for your reply
I will include my coins in the next update aswell then ...

Session summary

Day 1Hands played: 477
Limit played: PLO2 Zoom
Bankroll in $: 25.07
Starcoins: 4898


Tiltfactor: 1/10
Accuracy: 1/10
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Good: Just played 2 tables instead of 4 to be more focused. Did not Play in Auto Pilot mode.

Bad: gave in temptation to call in several spots, despite knowing Im beat
Preflop ranges are not accurate


I bought a new Laptop today and installed my poker Softwares (pokertracker, PS, Equilab, Flopzilla)

what am i missing?

I'm sure if you go around your home & look for change you can find some coins under the sofa and etc?
That would help a lot for your bankroll

Post your EV each session as well.

If you're net is increasing but EV 0 or negative then it's only a matter of time before you're busto again. Also feel better about losing sessions if you're in +EV. It all evens out eventually.

Good luck

hahahaha tried but i had to sell the Sofa already
na just kidding
i now my bank is a bit short but i think if i can´t handle to step up through the Micro micros I should definetely not invest more money this way.

BTW I am playing probably for around 15 years (3 years of that playmoney which financed my first bankroll) and spent and invested in bankrolls probably roughly between 6k to 8k......and I´m sick of it that´s why i try to take a different approach now

Thanks Mikey

that is a great tip and i will implement it

Thank you all for your comments appreciate it! First time for me in a Forum. Also, sorry for my poor english, feel free to correct me if there are drastical mistakes hahahahha

Session summary

Day 1

Session 2
Hands played: 3423 (VPIP 28)
Limit played: PLO2 Zoom
Bankroll in $: 96.46 (+71.39 but 45 through coins)
Starcoins: 398 (had to cash them in for my bankroll)


Tiltfactor: 4/10
Accuracy: 1/10
EV: QUESTION? is EV = My C All-in Adj or do i have to look out for another stat ???

Good: Nice Profit and recovered from a lausy start, refocused and tightend up, after realizing being on tilt

Bad: Let 2-3 Bad beat upset me so i spewed about 10 buy-in, after which i traded in my coins


I feel like a total noob sometimes when i ask stupid Questions but that´s the only way i will learn it.

I tried to figure out how to upload a graph, but did not succeed. Can anybody tell me how it´s done?

I will try to put up some hands too but not the typical bad beat stories because let´s face it everybody has them and if you are a good player, you actually should have them…….

(how is that done,too? just copy the Hand history text into an converter and then i can post it?)


don´t be to hard on me hehehhe Need improvement in all sections hahahah

hi, you can uplaod a graphic by register here and upload it here: https://imageshack.com

after the upload, simple click the link in here in the menu: insert image and type in the URL
if you dont know exactly how to make it, you find it here in the forum step by step, just search it

when you use Poker Tracker, i think My C All-in Adj is your EV, yes! (im HEM user, so if i am wrong, please someone correct me, thanks )

thank you i will try it out.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/2472/JRVgRH.png

is there a way to see the Picture in the thread instead of have to click on a link ? it´s more an aesthetic Question and i think it would be nicer for any other user so see straight away.

And another question is there another free programm than imageshack because i would preferably not pay for this service just to post a few pictures here.

click the box in blue and paste the img link into the popup




as for image service there is imgur, gyazo and probably many more

Thank you supersnort!

I will try them

Regarding stradegy Topics please let me know if I am misleading, have false assumptions or if you have a diffrent view. I will try to cover diffrent aspects starting from bankroll over mindset, preflop, betting to revising and so on ….so basically from A-Z and i would like to find out where my major flaws are in my thinking/playing, so let me know. With this being said ………..

Stradegy Topic: Bankroll managment (BM)

First of all I will summarize some thoughts about this and then state my Approach.

I think bankroll managment (BM) is one of the biggest leaks in the most players game (mine included). Why is that? Well did you been guilty like i have to say to yourself:

" oh well this is variance and i can stay at these stakes because my Winning will return soon "
"if I just win one buy-in on the next Level i can make up for this bad session"
"i play just another 100 Hands on this Limit maybe i can turn it around"
"a well its shot taking "
"this (20) xy buy-ins should be enough because it was enough on the last Tier"
and so on...


Well I know these are examples for false mindset, but having the discipline to actually apply your own rules is the crucial. And before you commit to your own rules they have to be fundamental and you have to deeply believe in them. Because the times you Sabotage yourself is just a reflection of your disbelieve in your own System.
Furthermore, a good bankroll managment (BM) will not make you a winning player, but it will prevent you from going broke (presuming you can beat the lowest of all stakes) . It can help you to play better though, because you are not busy thinking about "OMG this are my last 5 buy-ins" during a Hand and even if you are not thinking this actively, i believe that your mind will subconsciously effect you. (for example to play to tight or to loose or not making the bluff you should do etc.etc…...being short rolled leads to tilt more easily )

so ...my bankroll managment Approach:

PLO2: lowest stake, here i will have a Special bankroll System and i will explain why.
Minimum bankroll: 10 buy-ins ( i know i know waaaaay to low) anyway here is why: I think if you can´t beat this Level with this bankroll, you will not beat this Level with a 100buy-in bankroll, you simply not good enough.
Weather it is because of tilt issues, fundamental lack of knowlegde, wrong play System or other things. It doesn´t matter … when you play solid one table and think about what you do, cash out as soon you double up, till you reach the "normal requirements" you should be able to slowly increase your bankroll. Variance is of course a danger, but at this level, even when you have some badbeats( and they cannot be prevented when you play good) you should be able to extract value from the massive mistakes of our opponents.

However, I preferably at least have a bankroll of 25 buy-ins at PLO2 (50$)

Generally I think a 100 buy-in approach is the most solid one, so you don´t have to worry about it at any time. (I used to have a 50 buy-in Approach but it did´t get me far because if I didn´t switch stakes quick enough i had to jump 2 stakes down …) I Know about a 40 buy-in Approach but I´m not sure that´s enough for PLO because of the variance

That means for Bankroll requirements (100 buy-ins):
PLO2: 200$
PLO5: 500$
PLO10:1000$
PLO25:2500$ (which i played before but went broke due to a way to low bankroll)


Rules to implement :
1. When to go down!!! (obviously only applicable from PLO5)
If I am below the 100% (100 buy-ins) I should drop Limits
If you are 90% of the bankroll f.ex. 450$ of 500$ no excuses drop immidiatly


2. When to stop playing (tilt!!! will be a Topic for another day)
2.1. losing 5 buy-ins in a short amount of time let´s say between 30 minutes and one hour……...stop playing, cool down
(, think about where were your mistakes (not blaming varience)(if it is the case that just a minor mistake was made or it is actually varience or bad beats, refocus and play concentraded for another 100 Hands and review them again or even better take a day off relax and analize the Situation later )
2.2. Winning to much ( yes this can happen,too) let´s say I play PLO5 and have one table with a stack of 50$ (1000BB or 10 buy-ins)
Cash out to built my bankroll and more important not risking a big chunck of the bankroll again to a cooler, badbeat etc (has happend before)
(this is especially important when Building your BR in PLO2)
(the Question is the amount when i have to get up ….?? )
I am not sure about this if it should be an amount of buy -ins such as more than 5 buy-in/10 buy-ins or if it should be a percentage of my BR let´s say more than 5%

3. How to take shots at the next stake
This is an important part, too, because you don´t want to gamble away a big chunck of your BR just to take a shot. In the end i now play to get better and step up the ranks, Right?

So I previously had the idea when I reach 110% of a Limit I can take a shot. for example: you reached 220$ playing PLO2 now you try PLO5 with one of your tables instead of one of the PLO2 tables (better instead of all)
But I thought about it and have to sum up that this is probably a wrong Approach.
Here is why. When you taking a shot you are likely to face better Players and you are prone to lose more likely and also because the variance might play some tricks to you,too.
Instead of climbing up the leader you might have to go down a Limit because you lost 10-15% of your BR and you are below your requirements ….. basically you made one step ahead and two steps backwards ( we don´t want that anymore….)

So this may be to tight but a 150% Approach seems to be more Logical so f. ex. 300 for PLO2 to take a shot than 750 at PLO5 to take a shot and so on....)


Well that´s my thoughts about bankroll please let me know your ideas.

PokerStars - $0.02 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 78.5 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 97.5 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
MP: 134 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
CO: 278.5 BB (VPIP: 29.63, PFR: 14.81, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2 6 2 6

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 2 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (4 BB, 2 players) 6 9 A
SB bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 6 BB, SB raises to 22 BB, Hero calls 16 BB

Turn: (48 BB, 2 players) 8
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (48 BB, 2 players) 9
SB bets 46.5 BB, Hero calls 46.5 BB

SB shows A J 4 9 (Full House, Nines full of Aces)
(Pre 54%, Flop 21%, Turn 10%)
Hero mucks 2 6 2 6 (Full House, Sixes full of Nines)
(Pre 46%, Flop 79%, Turn 90%)
SB wins 136.5 BB

PokerStars - $0.02 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 195.5 BB (VPIP: 66.27, PFR: 33.73, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 85)
SB: 111 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 5.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
BB: 113.5 BB (VPIP: 34.15, PFR: 9.76, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 43)
UTG: 29 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
Hero (CO): 283 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 9 T J

fold, MP raises to 3.5 BB, Hero calls 3.5 BB, BTN raises to 15.5 BB, fold, fold, MP calls 12 BB, Hero calls 12 BB

Flop: (48 BB, 3 players) 8 J K
MP checks, Hero checks, BTN bets 46.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 46.5 BB

Turn: (141 BB, 2 players) A
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (141 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero bets 136.5 BB, BTN calls 133.5 BB and is all-in

Hero shows 7 9 T J (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 44%, Flop 61%, Turn 33%)
BTN shows A A 4 3 (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 56%, Flop 39%, Turn 68%)
BTN wins 394.5 BB



Bluffing was no good obviously. especially considering his range when he three bets

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ah ok. I just read something about a 30 days trial. Anyway it work well for me thank you!

Session summary

Day 2

Session 1
Hands played: ~1400 (VPIP 30)
Session length: 2 hours
Limit played: PLO2 Zoom
Bankroll in $: 74.53 (-21.93)
Starcoins: 398

Tiltfactor: 3/10
Accuracy: 0/10
EV: still figureing out how to get this stat for a certain time range

Good: ahm not Maybe that i stopped, refocused for a stretch of about 350 Hands
posted my first two Hands, but i will have to improve this aswell with proper commentary

Bad: Often happens after a good session that i Play to loose, call down to much and try to make bluffs in -EV spots , didn´t focus enough, distracted


Let´s get back to the grind and good luck at the tables !!!!( I´m just polite I don´t believe in luck )

I think your minimum 100BI is too high.

I am using a 50+10 buy-in rule. I need 50 buy-ins at the current level and 10 buy-ins at the next level before moving up.

For example, if I am playing PLO2 and want to move to PLO5, I need 50BI @ PLO2 ($100) and 10BI @ PLO5 ($50) for a total of $150. I will only drop down to PLO2 if I lose the 10BI (drop below $100)

Your bank roll for PLO2 doesn't matter as you can't move down. If I only had $2, I would still play.

Good luck!

what was your thinking here?

Hi,

"EV" is indeed the My C All-In Adj stat; it's called that way because it's not actual EV (see this blog post on pt4).

You can find it on the overlay stats box on the graphs. To get it for each of your sessions, go to the "Statistics" tab, click the "Advanced" button (left-middle of the screen) and the "By Session" one (right-middle).