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01-25-2016 , 12:42 PM
Bankroll Plans

So I'm leaving some of my money for life expenses and rebuilding new roll...



Live cash roll: 12k AUD (40 buy ins)


Plan is to grind 2/3NL, 1/3PLO and home games till I reach 20k before jumping to 2/5NL and higher stakes. But will take some shots along the way.



Online zoom cash roll: 1.25k USD (50 buy ins)

Will start off at 25NL 6max zoom, going back to my roots and reconstructing my ranges, learn new metas, aim to quickly get to 100z and grind there



Live mtt/pub poker roll: 1k AUD


No particularly plans here, probably just play any game thats good value (well as good as pub games can be) and allocate some winnings to life expenses and my other rolls.
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01-31-2016 , 01:23 PM
JUST HAD A SICK WEEK. BINKED 15K IN THE 550 DEEPSTACK AND ON A THREE TOURNAMENT WIN STREAK IN THE LAST WEEK. WILL MAKE DETAILED POST SOON.
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02-09-2016 , 02:25 PM
26/1/2016-10/2/2015

The last two weeks have been pretty good to me and I was running really well. Cashed for like 16k AUD+ and crushed the cash games… Basically won like a bunch of tournament in a roll in the first week.

26/1/2015

+$300, had 30% of a friend who end up winning some 5k GTD

28/1/2015

+$325+$25 pub monthly ticket, shipped a pub game with no deal

29/1/2015

Breakeven in a home game reg battling live players and made some new friends

30/1/2015

Won a $600 ticket in a one table winner takes all $75 buy in satellite. Some interesting hand includes a ten high hero call. I open BTN with T7o or something 4 handed, spewy guy whose been playing back at me defends. Board is AKQ I cbet he flats. Given how he likes to 3b all his prems, broadways, Ax I believe he’s floating very wide on this texture. Turn bricks check check. River 2, he bombs I call, he sigh and says “nice hand…” turning over 92o before being surprised when I showed ten high. My river call was fine imo, as I believed he would turn a lot of his underpair into bluffcatchers given how he perceived I would play so he’s river betting range is pretty air heavy, he just happened to catch a deuce there. There’s argument for raising river, but he’s the kind of player who likes to hero call and I wouldn’t be surprised if he calls me with a deuce there. We would end up getting HU and won the ticket.

31/1/2015 Big score!


Shipped the $550 Super Sunday Deepstack for $15k AUD. Pretty sick score. I made it to final two tables with a short stack and managed to win some preflop all ins and got a decent stack. Battled with the massive chip leader who was a reg and I would end up taking all of his chips and he didn’t even cash. I first doubled off him when I jam on a limper with like 17bb or somthing with 99 and he rejammed with AJo which was horrible imo (maybe he thinks I jam a lot of worse Ax on limps?). I then made some super spewy 3 barrel with underpairs and he called me with A high (run good much), the hand was pretty cringeworthy that I don’t even want to think about it anymore… Abused the bubble pretty hard raising ATC everyhand v players who overfold and would chip up nearly 50 bigs in the final table which is huge.



Final Table

FT were full of players limp folding and being exploited harder than a third world Nike employee. I lost like 3 flips in a row to some fish but was pretty much freerolling my all ins since I get so much back from people folding to my jams. Ran good in a few of my button jams knocking people out from behind, table wanted to do a deal but I refused and proceed to ship the 15k.



The next was mostly me playing pub tournaments to make my 6 games requirements to play that big $600 buy in.

4/2/2016

+$500 Bought in to play 2/3 NL at the cas, ran good include some bluffs and winning QQ v AA which was nice. Too bad I would lose my wallet several days later and lose all that profit alone with like nearly another $200 AUD (-$600)

6/2/2016 Day 1 of Quaterly tournament

It seems too good to be true to ship another big tournie, this time for 50k, but it’s full of fishes. The tournament was self dealt which is hugely ******ed for such a big prizepool… Started off shaky turning KK into a nut flush blocker bluff and running into second nut flush. Would lose most of my stack only to triple back up with a sick AA v KK v QQ set up.



Ran my stack up into a big stack around 7 hours win with like 60 bigs+ which is big for these silly pub majors. Did a really bad call that would send me back to an average stack. I3b SB with JJ v an early limper and flop somes 446 with flush draw. I cbet he min clicks which to me from an early limper is often an info raise and based on his limp pre I instantly put him on A6, 33, 55, 77 (only overpair which I feel he would limp) and broadway. My read on him is that he flats flush draw consistently on many textures in the short time I played with him. Turn brings a 9 and it goes check check. Some spazz screwed up the dealing before and accidently dealt a Q before any river and everyone was confused whether the Q should have been a burn card or turn card. The TD was bought in and after much confusion the Q was put back into the deck. Villain seemed very anxious about during the ruling and I interpreted that he could have broadways there. He jams some low river and I would end up calling before he shows me 99 for ninesfull. He would later say that he wasn’t hollywooding on that Queen card going into the deck and was hoping I hit the Q had it stayed as river and was hoping that his 9 wouldn’t go back into the deck instead of his queen. In hindsight, I didn’t think he would limp 99 pre and he’s only repping a boat on the river. I would struggle for the rest of the day as an average stack before making day 2 with 8bb (average was probably 11bb by day two).

7/2/2016 Day 2 and cash game run good

I would bust first hand on day 2 making a very loose and prob bad call with K7s v a BTN jam for 8bb and lose vs A9o. In hindsight no live pub player is jamming nash and it’s way too marginal of a call to take (she did look nervous when she jammed tho).
I headed straight to casino to play 2/5NL with my friend and I would end up making 1k that day. 700 in my first day session then 300 in my night session. Also had nice german food with friends.

Some interesting hands include me squeeze raising v a maniacal LAG 3betted and loose callers. I 4b bluff squeeze and got 3 caller (two from the blinds that flatted the 3b and 4b), flop comes QJ7 or something. Both of the blind check and they are the kind of players who would jam anything like TP when the pot is bloated rather than waiting for me to cbet (nice tell for live players) and the maniac to my left 3ball way too wide. I bombed 300 into around 500 and everyone folds lol. The maniac folded KQ which was lol (I guess I do rep sets and overpairs) and we became friends later after talking more strategy. Turns out he’s a live pro who crushes the smaller stakes but is having trouble adjusting to the higher stakes v hyper LAGs like myself. Try to guess what I have that hand :P

Another big hand of the night include me playing a reg OOP after raising AQo on limpers and a competent reg 3betting to $90 on the button which I flatted, given the stack size I think my call was probably bad given the stack size (eff $500), to which I think folding is better (I should’ve paid attention to the fact that his 3b was massive). Board comes JT7 which was very good for my 3b calling range, he cbets 125 and I raise to 300. I have backdoor flush, two overs, gutty so flopped way too good to fold and given stack size too shallow to just flat (I think less than pot size bet behind on the turn) so raise is fine. He mucks and says “Must be nice to flop a set of tens”. I think my call pre was bad but postflop it was pretty standard.




Bankroll


So I allocated some of my winnings to my bank account and live roll and put some to my cash roll. I think its wise to not use put all my winnings into my grind roll, but leave some for spending and live expense (fine dining and cab fee are my life leaks lol). I still owed around a few more hundred by other people so I will be collecting those ASAP. I will leave myself with a live cash roll of 22.5k (45 buy ins for 2/5NL) and a spare grand or so for degening and to fund some pub monthlies that I want to play. Yea the structures are terrible but people are so bad that I feel any pub tournaments that still give a few k for winning is still worth my time. I will also deposit a few k from my bank account into my online roll prob to grind 6 max zoom.

I’m looking to grind in 2/5NL and PLO before grinding 5/5 when I have something like 28-30k in my casino roll.

Currently theres around 2 weeks left b4 uni so I won’t be playing as much live except maybe weekends and will focus on working my way up in zoom again (starting from 25z/50z and working towards 200z). Still havent reviewed my GTOrb material which I spent almost 500+ USD on. I still need to review my BTN v BB SRP play and blind v blind as well as GTO 3betting strategy (pre and post).

Last edited by NL Loki; 02-09-2016 at 02:45 PM.
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02-10-2016 , 10:46 AM
February Plan

So I'm about to go back to uni, but I have some grind plans for poker before it's march.



Online

- Finish studying my GTOrb strategy packages

- Finish Jeff Hwang's PLO book



Live

Grind during friday and the weekends - below is my schedule

12th (fri) - 1/2NL home game

13th (sat) - $25+25A 3k GTD, 2/5NL home game (or casino)

14th (sun) - casino NL cash

19th (fri) - homegame/casino NL cash

20th (sat) - $60+50A 8k GTD

21st (sun) - casino NL cash

26th (fri) - homegame/casino NL cash

27th (sat) - 3k GTD freeroll

28th (sun) - $550 Super Sunday Deepstack at casino
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02-12-2016 , 10:40 AM
Net profit - 70$

Rather lame, I spent 20 on food and 40 on cab fee, which is totally ******ed and a huge leak of mine...

In the game I was up something like 130 getting rake ****ed in the home game...

The home game was meh, but table is fairly soft with around 2 nits, a bunch of weak passives and two regs who are alright.

One interesting hand includes me 5bet bluffing, Reg opens 3.5x early-ish in a 8 handed game, two callers, I opt to 3bet with 75s to $25, the regs snap 4bets to $60, its a spot where I feel he's tired of being 3betted so often and if he had prems he would either flat pre or even take more time before considering the 4bet, so given this timing tell I made it $200 and he folded. He said he folded A8s.

Another hand includes a reg shoving straight into me after I cbetted KQ on K3h4h, don't think he ever shoves any value here (its basicaly all combo draws), so I opt to flip, he shows Kh8h, bricks his heart draw even tho we ran it twice.

Another nice hand include a 3way SRP, where it was 9853A, where it went check around on the flop, very spewy reg stabs the turn and both me and another reg called, river he bombs after I check, other reg fold and I snapped with 96, given how I have a semi decent BC, with abit of blocker and he's propensity to turn alot of worse pairs into bluffs. He tables 77 and I win the pot.

Looking forward to reg battling 2/5 tmmr as well as a pub tournie b4 that.
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02-13-2016 , 10:00 AM
+215 profit

Sh*t home game, 6 regs battled 6 handed NL while getting raked ****ed even tho we were promised a bunch of whales and a full ring game. Game died down in like 2 hours and everyone wanted to leave. Host was short money as some cash when missing (wtf).

Played decently overall, 6m is my bread and butter so yea. I did make some spew nine high hero call in a spot where I think alot of combos of bricked draws are bombing and his value range is narrow AF
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02-14-2016 , 07:06 AM
+975 profit

Almost 1k profit which was nice for a day that started quite badly.

I was stuck 2 buy ins in 2/3NL, first buy in was gone after limp raising AKs to jamming on Q9x flop with low SPR against gambling fish who calls every hand (so AK might even be a protection shove here), then had a sigh call spot with KhQh on Q98x 2 hearts and brick v 2 pair

Got back near breakeven with turning trips and getting overpairs to call a jam and rivering quads and getting paid off.

I then headed to 1/3PLO, and was short stacked in a very fishy table and watched some guy punted off like no tmmr (apparently he punted off a 4k stack after running it up), waited pretty patiently but cringe hard when I see people showing hands like J852 in preflop all ins and a couple of multiway shoves the action was insane. I rivered some guy with flush draw + top pair v his worse two pairs which was nice. I kept waiting patiently until i have some broadway KhThQ9 or sumthing and flop the nut flush, slow played it n Ah7h4h and got alot of people to put in $$ no flop and turn but was prepared to fold paired rivers but luckily everything brick and I got alot of value and ran upa 1k stack...

Did some hero fold where old guy bets half pot into 3 people on SB, board was 88867 and I have KKxx I fold, he must have quads right? Surely he's not value betting JJxx or QQxx into a few people (what worse would call mate? worse overpairs? keep dreaming bruh). And ofc he flips over JJxx and I'm like wtf, tables thinks im some nit fish but really I crush their souls bluffing nut flush blockers and value towning their pensioners' checks... or social security check or drug funds or where ever broke degens get their monies from...



I also staked my horse for 2/3NL and he ran it up to 1.6k b4 spewing off a couple of hundred overbetting top set on 4 flush board and gets called by 7 high flush #nicebluffm8, I pulled him out b4 collecting $362 from him along with my initial BI.

Overall a decent day, could've been up more, definitely gearing my game based on live tells, variance control, nut peddling and finding good spots to bluff is the way to crush live poker forget about all that GTO bs, minbetting is da nutz

Long way to go b4 I feel comfortable shotting the higher stacks due to BR nittiness but def have an edge in any games there imo

This week I'm likely spending time dealing with personal affairs, cleaning the house and studying online 6max zoom GTO stuff...

Last edited by NL Loki; 02-14-2016 at 07:30 AM.
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02-14-2016 , 11:51 AM
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19th (fri) - homegame/casino NL cash

20th (sat) - $60+50A 8k GTD

21st (sun) - casino NL cash

26th (fri) - homegame/casino NL cash

27th (sat) - 3k GTD freeroll

28th (sun) - $550 Super Sunday Deepstack at casino

Slight correction on the last 6 days in my schedule for this month, I think I will be playing PLO cash too, probably will be searching the tables at 2/3 NL, 2/5 NL, 1/3 PLO to see if there's any huge spots. I'm unlikely to be playing the homegames, because I don't feel they are even that good, cas is where all the degen drunk whales are at...
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02-15-2016 , 12:47 AM
+600 just cuz I found my lost wallet with all the money in it, so this is very good news!! I wrote -600 when I lost it so only right I count this as a profit :P
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02-15-2016 , 11:34 AM
+64 profit Short stacked 1/3 PLO for an hour after dinner

But spent like 30 bucks on cab fare and 25 bucks on dinner

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02-16-2016 , 11:47 AM
-50 from a last longer bet

Also sold 25% action for my 550 Sunday Deepstack tournament
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02-17-2016 , 09:02 AM
+200 profit short 90 minute session

I played 2/3 NL for a while, near breakeven, then 1/3 PLO, pot pre with KQJTds then jam flop on nut flush draw Ah6hx or sumthing then took it down without showdown. Then headed to 5/5 PLO to short stack for 300, lost one buy in (was a 1.2k+ pot where the winning hand was like third pair hitting trips...) then ran second buy in to 700 after limp jamming AAxx single suited and hit A high flop. Pretty soft table tbh, everyone is straddling and looking to gamble really... Saw random hands like AJ72 at showdown and people are playing pretty bad holdings and getting commited easily... def alot of money in this game.
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02-19-2016 , 07:37 AM
- 1,500 loss

Had a nightmare session. -3BI for 2/5NL Pretty much wiped out my last 5 day's profit...

I lost my first stack slowplaying KK pre, I flatted UTG 5x open v reg and got a multiway pot (6 people?), so yuck. Flop comes 983 with 2 diamonds, SB leads small (he always goes it as a blocker bet with draws a high % of the time), UTG raises to 125 (pot-ish), and he has have alot of overpairs, then person to my left calls out of turn... Given how I feel that the person to my left would raise sets on a multiway pot thats somewhat drawy, I feel I'm fairly ahead of everyone's range here and can get thin value given my KK is underrepped and people would call alot of flush/straight draws, and I might even get an overpair to call because of the calling out of turn dynamic set by the personal to my left. I feel it would be somewhat +EV, even tho some of the time I might run into a better hand, anywayz, I jam, guy to my left rejams, SB folds and UTG tank folds JJ. Guy to my left has a set.

I bluffed of my second stack 3betting with suited gappers pre and barrelling paired board vs huge nit. He went for it with overpairs. It was weird dynamics again, because he saw one of my cards and announced it and the dealer changed my card and I decide to try to exploit that dynamic but ended up punting off a stack.

I punted off my 3rd and last bullet for the day. floating v a fish/nervous recreational player, and jam river when the flush hits and my line is very consistent with a rivered flush. He calls with A3 (top pair 3 kicker)

I definitely think just value betting would've been a better choice v that table, but I tried to take some spots that maybe I shouldn't have taken them and just go for value towning. The recreational player was dead money and there was no reason to go out and punt off stacks to him. Tilt and impatience in live game (rip hands/hr) def had something to do with it, prompting me to take high variance lines and risky bluffs. In hindsight I felt somewhat stupid to not just play snug and gain alot of value and maintain self discipline.


Live bankroll: 23k

Online roll: 2k



I was initially gonna play more cash games in the weekend but decide to take a breather/get my life together/prepare for uni semester. I think its time I spent sometime studying my online game and put some volume in zoom...

I'm probably not going to play the razz/stud homegame that I intended to play this sunday but just stay home and clean up my house. Definitely not in the mood/mentality to keep grinding cash for a few days.



Schedule

- 20/2 (saturday): 50+60 buy in 8k GTD

- 26/2 (friday): cash game

- 27/2 (saturday): 3k GTD freeroll

- 28/2 (sunday): 550 buy in (I have 65% of myself here)

Last edited by NL Loki; 02-19-2016 at 07:58 AM.
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02-19-2016 , 07:58 AM
I was on your table. Clue... I'm down more than you. Shame because it's an awesome table
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02-19-2016 , 08:03 AM
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I was on your table. Clue... I'm down more than you. Shame because it's an awesome table
You can't be the asian dude can you? He was up heaps. Was thinking ur the guy that got slowrolled a couple of time by seat 1?
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02-19-2016 , 08:13 AM
Lost with a set of jacks and to yes to the slow roll from the Indian guy with AA
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02-19-2016 , 08:22 AM
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Lost with a set of jacks and to yes to the slow roll from the Indian guy with AA
Ahhh, yea I remember, yea sh*tty session...
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02-19-2016 , 08:32 AM
Could be worse, just saw a guy on the big table lose an 80k pot when he flopped top set against middle set and middle set went runner runner flush
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02-19-2016 , 08:41 AM
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Could be worse, just saw a guy on the big table lose an 80k pot when he flopped top set against middle set and middle set went runner runner flush
80k wtf, 25/50 holdem?
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02-19-2016 , 08:43 AM
They're playing 25/50/100 and they're super deep. At least two guys with 100k stacks
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02-19-2016 , 09:03 AM
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They're playing 25/50/100 and they're super deep. At least two guys with 100k stacks
Stacking off on the flop for 800 bigs with mid set sounds very spewy.
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02-19-2016 , 09:54 AM
New Guidelines



- Bring one BI (and abit more to top up) for live cash from now on, as I don't feel I could play my A games on 2nd bullets.

- My main games are now 1/3 PLO and 5/5 PLO, not that I think NL isn't profitable but I feel live PLO is even more profitable and more actions/profit spots, so I don't get in spots where I'm impatient and play bad after 2-3 hrs like in NL, I think given my mentality is to shot take and move up aggressively thru the stakes PLO is def a better choice for live

- Focus on my NL game thru playing 6 max cash online/online MTTs instead of playing them live




Bankroll plan


Live Bankroll: 23k AUD for grinding 1/3 PLO and 5/5 PLO on Friday and weekends

Online Bankroll: 2.5k USD for grinding 50z and micro MTTs

***any spare $$ goes to shot taking/tournie shots
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02-19-2016 , 02:54 PM
Introspection: Personal Leak

I feel, especially in live poker, it's hard to give up on a pot, especially if it's big. You sit there for hours to get a spot and the impatience builds and make it hard to resist winning the pot at all cost. This lead to rather spewy plays, emptying the clip, so to speak, barrelling even on cards that are bad for you to keep bluffing on, making super ambitious floats OOP, rejamming on a strong range etc. When you have significant equity and you miss, you just feel hard not to fire the last bullet to win that pot. Although it shows heart, which is a good thing, can lead to problems like overbluffing, especially into stations. This problem is especially compounded if ur already on ur 2nd or 3rd bullet of the session. Definitely a subtle form of tilt.
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02-19-2016 , 05:05 PM
I think the lesson has to be to play the player. Bluffing is an important part of the game and it helps good players get value too by opening up their range on later streets

I definitely agree that in our room, at those stakes, being value oriented is definitely right but, you should know that in your bust out hand, while you get called with that muppet with A3 but the guy directly to your left (the white guy fish who constantly complained about not getting hands yet tripled up when he called a 3 bet oop with J7!) he actually folded a flopped straight to you when you shoved the river
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02-19-2016 , 11:16 PM
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I think the lesson has to be to play the player. Bluffing is an important part of the game and it helps good players get value too by opening up their range on later streets

I definitely agree that in our room, at those stakes, being value oriented is definitely right but, you should know that in your bust out hand, while you get called with that muppet with A3 but the guy directly to your left (the white guy fish who constantly complained about not getting hands yet tripled up when he called a 3 bet oop with J7!) he actually folded a flopped straight to you when you shoved the river
Yea I saw that I was like Lmao. Yeah, I misjudged that muppet, to the point where I decided to float the turn raise with basically no equity no draw (wishing I was actually drawing now) to shove a good portion of the rivers. I was only jamming paired, diamond or hearts river cuz that guy is def folding those (he slowplays all his monster). I was hoping the muppet would get intimidated by the money and fold to a pot sized bet given he only has a buy in and seemed very recreational. And at that time I didn't have a bluffy image at all. I wonder if I said something like "Your ace is no good..." or try to invoke a thought process from him might get him to fold.

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