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Deeepz: Moving up to 50NL and moving out in 2014 [6max] Deeepz: Moving up to 50NL and moving out in 2014 [6max]

11-21-2013 , 12:36 PM
Haha, this def has to happen.
Deeepz: Moving up to 50NL and moving out in 2014 [6max] Quote
11-25-2013 , 08:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KP24
Hahaha! Well played! Which one did you get again?

If there is one next month...

"[ ] Will use realistic BRM"

I am snap taking that one!!
dude 15BI shots is fine, you nit!

btw I'm back on the grind!!

lets gogogo

Deeepz: Moving up to 50NL and moving out in 2014 [6max] Quote
11-25-2013 , 09:23 AM
Ok mate, if you say so....

Will take this one as well.....

[ ] Understands variance

Deeepz: Moving up to 50NL and moving out in 2014 [6max] Quote
11-25-2013 , 09:44 AM
I agree with KP, your BRM is a recipe for disaster! Playing with a more comfortable amount of buy ins will help your mental game and those 2 outers will be a lot less painful. Even for a proven winner at a limit 15 buy ins is still high risk. But....feel free to ignore everyone's advice and go busto
Deeepz: Moving up to 50NL and moving out in 2014 [6max] Quote
11-25-2013 , 10:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KP24
Ok mate, if you say so....

Will take this one as well.....

[ ] Understands variance

it's not like I'm taking agressive shots till I'm busto. I take 2 BI stop loss shots.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bubbleboy10
I agree with KP, your BRM is a recipe for disaster! Playing with a more comfortable amount of buy ins will help your mental game and those 2 outers will be a lot less painful. Even for a proven winner at a limit 15 buy ins is still high risk. But....feel free to ignore everyone's advice and go busto
don't agree.. and read ^this.


silly haters gonna hate I guess
Deeepz: Moving up to 50NL and moving out in 2014 [6max] Quote
11-25-2013 , 11:05 AM
Oh man, I hope you don't think I am hating. I am just having a bit of a laugh (admittedly at your expense) so sorry for that.

I just don't see the point of a 2 buy in shot that's all. You got to do what feels right for you mate. Good luck to you.
Deeepz: Moving up to 50NL and moving out in 2014 [6max] Quote
11-25-2013 , 12:11 PM
Quick weekly update w/ graphs and BR:

Spoiler:

^my month so far...

BR:
Spoiler:


cleared 120$/200$ of my first deposit bonus so won't take long until I'm back on stars again

mixing 25nl and 50nl tables atm

Goals for this week [25.11-2.12]:

[ ] 14k hands
[ ] receive 2 sweats + give 2 sweats
[ ] record another session and get feedback from it
[ ] reread jared tendler 100% and take notes (hand-written) to important points

^FREEROLLZagain, you the deal: pick a goal; this time for 15$ per goal I don't achieve


edit: almost forgot to post some funny hands:

Spoiler:
$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
PartyPoker
4 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO ($50.50) 101bb
BTN ($41.44) 83bb
Hero (SB) ($112.23) 224bb
BB ($44.69) 89bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 4 players) Hero is SB A Q
CO raises to $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, Hero raises to $6.50, 1 fold, CO folds, BTN calls $5

Flop: 2 8 9 ($15, 2 players)
Hero bets $7.50, BTN calls $7.50

Turn: 2 ($30, 2 players)
Hero goes all-in $98.23, BTN goes all-in $27.44

River: Q ($84.88, 2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $84.88
Hero shows
A Q
BTN shows
A 7

Hero wins $224.46 (net +$112.23)

CO lost $1.50
BTN lost $41.44


my sizing is horrible. I should go bigger otf and jam turn or x/f all the way


also 2 hands I need advice on both against unknown regs in similar spots:
Spoiler:

$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
PartyPoker
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($58.86) 118bb
UTG+1 ($65.45) 131bb
CO ($50) 100bb
BTN ($50) 100bb
Hero (SB) ($94.26) 189bb
BB ($50) 100bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is SB A A
2 folds, CO raises to $1.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, 1 fold, CO calls $3.50

Flop: 4 Q 6 ($10.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $5, CO calls $5

Turn: A ($20.50, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $10, Hero goes all-in $84.26

Final Pot: $40.50

$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
PartyPoker
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($31.43) 63bb
CO ($70.78) 142bb
BTN ($51.19) 102bb
SB ($27.78) 56bb
Hero (BB) ($60.53) 121bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 5 players) Hero is BB A A
1 fold, CO raises to $1.50, 1 fold, SB calls $1.25, Hero raises to $6.50, CO calls $5, SB folds

Flop: 2 7 8 ($14.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $5.50, CO calls $5.50

Turn: 4 ($25.50, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $16.15, Hero goes all-in $48.53






Last edited by Deeepz; 11-25-2013 at 12:17 PM.
Deeepz: Moving up to 50NL and moving out in 2014 [6max] Quote
11-25-2013 , 12:15 PM
In for 14k hands.

Last edited by TheDefiniteArticle; 11-25-2013 at 12:15 PM. Reason: Also, post hands, they're fun
Deeepz: Moving up to 50NL and moving out in 2014 [6max] Quote
11-25-2013 , 12:22 PM
in4 [ ] receive 2 sweats + give 2 sweats
Deeepz: Moving up to 50NL and moving out in 2014 [6max] Quote
11-25-2013 , 12:40 PM
Really don't like the turn x/jam in the first hand. It's really tough to get called by worse except for sets because you block most 2P combos, plus you can't rely on villain to bet much of his flop calling range on this turn card in the first place considering your range looks like a lot of SDV which may or may not fold.

Second hand is probably okay. I'd probably just b/b/jam myself, but you probably have a fair few bluffs in your range here. I'm not sure, but x/c turn and any river might be better as well because a bunch of regs are going to barrel off in that spot when you cap your perceived range.
Deeepz: Moving up to 50NL and moving out in 2014 [6max] Quote
11-25-2013 , 01:04 PM
In for book reading
Deeepz: Moving up to 50NL and moving out in 2014 [6max] Quote
11-25-2013 , 02:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deeepz
Quick weekly update w/ graphs and BR:

Spoiler:

^my month so far...

BR:
Spoiler:


cleared 120$/200$ of my first deposit bonus so won't take long until I'm back on stars again

mixing 25nl and 50nl tables atm

Goals for this week [25.11-2.12]:

[ ] 14k hands
[ ] receive 2 sweats + give 2 sweats
[ ] record another session and get feedback from it
[ ] reread jared tendler 100% and take notes (hand-written) to important points

^FREEROLLZagain, you the deal: pick a goal; this time for 15$ per goal I don't achieve


edit: almost forgot to post some funny hands:

Spoiler:
$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
PartyPoker
4 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO ($50.50) 101bb
BTN ($41.44) 83bb
Hero (SB) ($112.23) 224bb
BB ($44.69) 89bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 4 players) Hero is SB A Q
CO raises to $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, Hero raises to $6.50, 1 fold, CO folds, BTN calls $5

Flop: 2 8 9 ($15, 2 players)
Hero bets $7.50, BTN calls $7.50

Turn: 2 ($30, 2 players)
Hero goes all-in $98.23, BTN goes all-in $27.44

River: Q ($84.88, 2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $84.88
Hero shows
A Q
BTN shows
A 7

Hero wins $224.46 (net +$112.23)

CO lost $1.50
BTN lost $41.44


my sizing is horrible. I should go bigger otf and jam turn or x/f all the way


also 2 hands I need advice on both against unknown regs in similar spots:
Spoiler:

$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
PartyPoker
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($58.86) 118bb
UTG+1 ($65.45) 131bb
CO ($50) 100bb
BTN ($50) 100bb
Hero (SB) ($94.26) 189bb
BB ($50) 100bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is SB A A
2 folds, CO raises to $1.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, 1 fold, CO calls $3.50

Flop: 4 Q 6 ($10.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $5, CO calls $5

Turn: A ($20.50, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $10, Hero goes all-in $84.26

Final Pot: $40.50

$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
PartyPoker
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($31.43) 63bb
CO ($70.78) 142bb
BTN ($51.19) 102bb
SB ($27.78) 56bb
Hero (BB) ($60.53) 121bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 5 players) Hero is BB A A
1 fold, CO raises to $1.50, 1 fold, SB calls $1.25, Hero raises to $6.50, CO calls $5, SB folds

Flop: 2 7 8 ($14.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $5.50, CO calls $5.50

Turn: 4 ($25.50, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $16.15, Hero goes all-in $48.53





I can agree with TheDefiniteArticle here, in the first hand it looks like you hoped he made 2 pair and shoved because you think he will call off his stack and also maybe try chase a river flush with bad odds.
It also looked likely that he was on a flush draw maybe JKh KTh TJh K9h 9Th J9h could be in his flop calling range? So he would only be calling your shove with some flush hands too which has you beat. He would most likely be 4 betting KK or maybe even QQ pre so it may be less likely for him to have in this spot? not sure, depends on the villain.
I think you can take a line where you can get more value by just making a reraise of 30 or even 25 the turn which will give him bad odds when he makes the call, this can also keep 2 pair hands, weaker sets and even lower pairs in his range which is good for you. If the river pairs the board and he hits a boat then you have him as you will have the bigger boat, you will also beat his back door flush draws and he will be much more willingly to call you with the worst hand and you will get a ton of value
Deeepz: Moving up to 50NL and moving out in 2014 [6max] Quote
11-25-2013 , 02:43 PM
In again for the record session one. Hope you do make it this time.

Also, as long as you are not tilt prone and have a stoploss that you actually respect it's fine to be more aggressive with your BRM because poker prob doesn't pay your bills and other expenses now and it prob won't playing 25nl where you're living .
Deeepz: Moving up to 50NL and moving out in 2014 [6max] Quote
11-25-2013 , 06:19 PM
Sorry Deeepz if you thought I was hating...I slightly misunderstood you previously. Taking a 2 buy in shot is fine I suppose but you're going to have to run v good from the off to stay at that limit.

You do seem to want to move up through the limits at an unrealistic pace though and I think this might hurt you in the future. Slow and steady is the way to go rather than BAM BAM BAM .... BUST! However if you don't mind going bust a few times then whatever, I suppose you do learn more the hard way and will take more care in the future.
Deeepz: Moving up to 50NL and moving out in 2014 [6max] Quote
11-25-2013 , 08:01 PM
I think you understood it wrong. Im taking 15 BI shots with 2bi stop loss. Meaning i take shots at 50NL w/ 750$ br and when I hit 600-650ish i move back down
Deeepz: Moving up to 50NL and moving out in 2014 [6max] Quote
11-26-2013 , 09:07 AM
Meh.. Gonna stop playing 50NL now fwiw. got wrecked 3 times by the same reg within 1k hands.. shouldn't play regs

BR: 500$

rebuilding at 25nl weee

Deeepz: Moving up to 50NL and moving out in 2014 [6max] Quote
11-26-2013 , 09:45 AM
Owning a reg feels much better then doing it to a fish

GL rebuilding
Deeepz: Moving up to 50NL and moving out in 2014 [6max] Quote
11-26-2013 , 10:11 AM
ignore the haters. taking shots with 15-20 bi is completely fine imo

pm me if you wanna do review4review (i'm not a losing fish anymore )

Last edited by fegelein; 11-26-2013 at 10:12 AM. Reason: or i'm on a sick heater
Deeepz: Moving up to 50NL and moving out in 2014 [6max] Quote
11-26-2013 , 02:28 PM
It's funny how people who try to give realistic and serious advice get described a haters just because the OP doesn't like the advice.
I am only trying to help you so if you want to do a sweat or discuss a few spots pm me!
Deeepz: Moving up to 50NL and moving out in 2014 [6max] Quote
11-26-2013 , 06:02 PM
hey guise
just wanted to share this nice day w/ epic comeback


^ffirst 50nl then 25nl

BR: 706$ + 80$ in PP bonus to buy


Deeepz: Moving up to 50NL and moving out in 2014 [6max] Quote
11-26-2013 , 08:34 PM
hi deeppzzz,

that's a nice come back! I don't know how you do to already shoot nl 50 ! I would have tilted so much if i had lost ! Hope you will achieve your goals by going to Nl50, you deserve it! I will stick to Nl25 from my point of view until 2.5k roll, i'm too affected by results ( that's a big problem that i must solve )

Gl Mate!
Deeepz: Moving up to 50NL and moving out in 2014 [6max] Quote
11-27-2013 , 12:36 PM
Yeah - we are following as friends not haters!!

I said I was not hating and I think same goes for Bubbleboy.

It just seems as though our man takes shots lightly which is more aggressive than the standard which is of course fine - really I agree it is.

But. Then posting graphs of a sample of less than 1000 hands and referring to it as a "comeback" rather than a "sick heater" shows a minimal understanding of variance which then affects the decision to take aggressive shots.

It is all a bit tongue in cheek too I hope?
Deeepz: Moving up to 50NL and moving out in 2014 [6max] Quote
11-27-2013 , 12:53 PM
Mehh
You mad bc you run bad and everyone else is therefore heating?

Maybe Im just a fish on a heater, maybe Im not, how would you know?
Dont take everything so srsly

Spoiler:
hu4rollz KP?


Edit: ^maybe that sounded a bit harsh and aggressive. Sorry but I am like that I guess

Last edited by Deeepz; 11-27-2013 at 01:05 PM.
Deeepz: Moving up to 50NL and moving out in 2014 [6max] Quote
11-27-2013 , 12:56 PM
Actually it was 3.5k hands
And I do have understanding of variance. I just wanted to share witj you that even a bad daystart can turn around surprisingly so you dont lose motivation

And when will u let me sweat you kp?

Edit about variance: i also think too many players blame everything on variance and downswings instead of trying to plug the leaks
Deeepz: Moving up to 50NL and moving out in 2014 [6max] Quote
11-27-2013 , 12:57 PM
your brm is plenty
Deeepz: Moving up to 50NL and moving out in 2014 [6max] Quote

      
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