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Old 10-14-2012, 05:52 PM   #151
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Re: Crushing PLO (PLO5-->PLO200)

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Do you do any kid of pre session warm up??
Nope. I read the mental game of poker and I tried one, didn't really work well.

I should establish one. Any ideas?
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Old 10-15-2012, 06:48 AM   #152
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Re: Crushing PLO (PLO5-->PLO200)

1. definitely bet turn
2. wp
3. yeah, shove river.
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Old 10-15-2012, 03:28 PM   #153
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Re: Crushing PLO (PLO5-->PLO200)

Comeback champ Q.Q




Again. So, still not sure why this trend is so consistent..

These are the big hands where both my allinev line and green line drop 20bb/100bb respectively, in the first half of the session;

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $9.80
BTN: $10.69
SB: $11.34
BB: $25.64
UTG: $6.89
Hero (MP): $11.27

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has J K 9 T

UTG calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, fold, BTN calls $0.50, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.70, 3 players) 8 T 9
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.30, BTN calls $1.30, fold

Turn: ($4.30, 2 players) 3
Hero bets $3.00, BTN raises to $8.89 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.89

River: ($22.08, 2 players) A

Spoiler:


OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: $11.24
MP: $10.72
CO: $10.44
BTN: $51.09
SB: $6.53
Hero (BB): $10.00

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has J A Q Q

UTG calls $0.10, fold, CO calls $0.10, fold, SB checks, Hero raises to $0.50, UTG calls $0.40, CO calls $0.40, SB calls $0.40

Flop: ($2.00, 4 players) 8 K 6
SB checks, Hero bets $1.75, UTG raises to $7.25, CO raises to $9.94 and is all-in, fold, Hero calls $7.75 and is all-in, UTG calls $2.69

Turn: ($31.38, 3 players) J

River: ($31.38, 3 players) 4

Spoiler:


OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $11.24
SB: $10.22
BB: $10.64
UTG: $42.30
MP: $7.83
Hero (CO): $8.91

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has A 4 A 6

UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, fold, SB calls $0.40, fold, UTG calls $0.40, MP calls $0.40

Flop: ($2.10, 4 players) A 3 5
SB checks, UTG bets $0.10, fold, Hero raises to $2.00, fold, UTG calls $1.90

Turn: ($6.10, 2 players) J
UTG checks, Hero bets $5.22, UTG calls $5.22

River: ($16.54, 2 players) 7
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.19 and is all-in, UTG calls $1.19

Spoiler:


All the hands are super standard imo.. So the continuing trend wasn't a result of me spewing (today at least)

This was the most interesting hand of the session;

The donking villain is random fish. The villain who raises in MP is 10/7, agg freq of 35.

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $16.42
SB: $3.81
BB: $3.50
UTG: $13.11
MP: $10.29
Hero (CO): $16.83

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has T J T 9

UTG raises to $0.40, fold, Hero calls $0.40, fold, SB calls $0.30, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.60, 4 players) T K 6
SB checks, BB bets $1.60, UTG raises to $4.00, Hero calls $4.00, fold, BB calls $1.50 and is all-in

Turn: ($12.70, 3 players) 5
UTG bets $8.71 and is all-in, Hero calls $8.71

River: ($30.12, 3 players) 3

Spoiler:


I flatted the flop intending to fold on any club or ace turn. I could only put villain on KK**, AA**cc, KTcc, KTQJ. Yes, narrow, but the only hands which fit his profile and the action preflop/OTF. It turns out I was exactly right and played perfectly.

Hand2:

This one I was a bit lost. Villain is 16/16 over 70 hands. Agg freq of 71 (insanely aggro over a short sample).

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: $17.89
CO: $10.00
Hero (BTN): $15.80
SB: $14.84
BB: $15.46

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has K T J 9

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.40, fold, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.90, 2 players) J 2 6
BB bets $0.70, Hero calls $0.70

Turn: ($2.30, 2 players) 2
BB bets $1.75, Hero calls $1.75

River: ($5.80, 2 players) T
BB bets $4.00, Hero calls $4.00

Spoiler:


I put him on a busted diamond draw. I suppose 2**dd was possible... or in this case, KK2*.



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Nope. I read the mental game of poker and I tried one, didn't really work well.

I should establish one. Any ideas?
Right. So this is from The mental game of poker. It's called the process model and its reckoned to be the most effective way to learn;

1. Preparation/Warm-up: What you do before you play. Whether it’s planned, random, or nothing at all, it’s how you prepare.

Sit up straight, take 20 deep breaths.
While breathing; Review short-term and long term goals. Remind myself of biggest mistakes.

Realistically, should take ~1minute.

2. Performance: Playing poker.

No skype. No 2+2. Try to minimize youtube music/itunes.

3. Results: The outcome of your play.

Post on 2+2 or check PT3.

4. Evaluation: A review of your results right after playing.

Grab a coffee, look over key hands

5. Analysis: Actively working to improve your game away from the table.

Post hands, analysis. Go over leaks, try and improve game.


So after each step in the model I indicated my strategy. I'm doing 2-5 for 80% of sessions. Going to add the warm-up and try to be even more consistent with 2-5.
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Old 10-15-2012, 06:32 PM   #154
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Re: Crushing PLO (PLO5-->PLO200)

Session 2:




In life: Flying to Vancouver in a week. I'm gonna grind the live PLO for a couple days, then go to my new house in Whistler. Will probably make a second trip to Vancouver in Early November for the WSOP circuit events. Whistler->vancouver is 2 hours by bus, $13.
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Old 10-16-2012, 01:28 AM   #155
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Re: Crushing PLO (PLO5-->PLO200)

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Right. So this is from The mental game of poker. It's called the process model and its reckoned to be the most effective way to learn;

1. Preparation/Warm-up: What you do before you play. Whether it’s planned, random, or nothing at all, it’s how you prepare.

Sit up straight, take 20 deep breaths.
While breathing; Review short-term and long term goals. Remind myself of biggest mistakes.

Realistically, should take ~1minute.

2. Performance: Playing poker.

No skype. No 2+2. Try to minimize youtube music/itunes.

3. Results: The outcome of your play.

Post on 2+2 or check PT3.

4. Evaluation: A review of your results right after playing.

Grab a coffee, look over key hands

5. Analysis: Actively working to improve your game away from the table.

Post hands, analysis. Go over leaks, try and improve game.


So after each step in the model I indicated my strategy. I'm doing 2-5 for 80% of sessions. Going to add the warm-up and try to be even more consistent with 2-5.
Looks good man, with your graph pattern a warm up will hopefully help get off to a better start. Maybe review a couple hands just before a session, do need to be tricky spots just any hands to get into the rhythm?

Kepp us updated on how your going with it
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Old 10-16-2012, 05:01 AM   #156
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Re: Crushing PLO (PLO5-->PLO200)

#1: would have checked the turn. people are often slowplaying the nuts in this spot and not many hands that we can get value from with top2.
#2,3,4: standard.
#5: i'd fold the river. all you have is a bluffcatcher and i'd rather wait for a better spot to take his stack. also, what's his river agg freq ? it's more important than overall AFq because if he's a total spaztard on flop/turn but a nit on the river, it's an easy fold.
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Old 10-16-2012, 10:58 AM   #157
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Re: Crushing PLO (PLO5-->PLO200)

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Looks good man, with your graph pattern a warm up will hopefully help get off to a better start. Maybe review a couple hands just before a session, do need to be tricky spots just any hands to get into the rhythm?

Kepp us updated on how your going with it
I do try to get in PLO-mode before I play. As in, read 2+2 and give PT3 a peak. I struggle readless.

I tend to avoid getting into hands unless I have some read. Example; CO opens, I have AKT5as on the btn. Against most villains (opening >15% in CO) this is a std 3bet for me. readless, I flat.

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#1: would have checked the turn. people are often slowplaying the nuts in this spot and not many hands that we can get value from with top2.
#2,3,4: standard.
#5: i'd fold the river. all you have is a bluffcatcher and i'd rather wait for a better spot to take his stack. also, what's his river agg freq ? it's more important than overall AFq because if he's a total spaztard on flop/turn but a nit on the river, it's an easy fold.
#1, meh, even against the nuts we have 12-16 outs. I think he could easily have bottom J7/76 or a pair+NFD.
#5 Yeah.. I think the std is fold OTT or OTR. The hands we have on him don't mean that much-- I think the sample was like 50 hands at the time I played the hand. I think he had bet 2/2 rivers..
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Re: Crushing PLO (PLO5-->PLO200)

First session;



Yeah.. Got in some ****ty spots with low SPRs..

Hand 1:

By far the most interesting hand. All villains involved are fish.

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $17.48
Hero (BB): $23.88
UTG: $17.67
MP: $10.00
CO: $10.89
BTN: $6.00

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has 8 8 A A

fold, fold, CO calls $0.10, BTN raises to $0.50, SB calls $0.40, Hero raises to $2.10, CO calls $2.00, BTN calls $1.60, SB calls $1.60

Flop: ($8.40, 4 players) 2 5 4
SB checks, Hero bets $3.50, CO raises to $8.79 and is all-in, fold, fold, Hero calls $5.29

Turn: ($25.98, 2 players) T

River: ($25.98, 2 players) 8

Spoiler:


The flop I almost timed out, at first I thought to give up.

It's 4 ways, fairly coordinated, and light. Then I thought, I have A3 blockers, and a backdoor FD.. Also, how many combos of 36 are there going to be in a 3b pot? Plus, I may even get worse to call. One of these fish may call KK** one street. I went for just under half pot, intending to fold getting 2.5:1 if the last guy jammed it.

After I bet, the passive fish who overcalled the 3b snap jams all in. I need 20% equity to call.

board: 2c4d5s
Hand Equity Wins Ties
AcAd8c8 24.60% 147,591 68
36**, A3**, 22**, 44**, 55**, 24**, 25**, 45**, 267*, 467*, 567*, 678*, 67QQ, KK5* 75.40% 452,341 68

So yeah, have to call. He just so happened to have 63** with 3 backdoor club blockers. What a joke.

Hand 2:

This has happened to me 3 times this week.
Villain is 54/20, 60 flop cbet, 50 turn cbet, aggro spewy in general.

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $11.38
BB: $4.90
UTG: $10.37
CO: $27.09
Hero (BTN): $9.90

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has 6 9 7 5

fold, CO raises to $0.40, Hero calls $0.40, fold, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.30, 3 players) K 7 6
BB checks, CO bets $1.00, Hero calls $1.00, fold

Turn: ($3.30, 2 players) 7
CO bets $1.70, Hero calls $1.70

River: ($6.70, 2 players) Q
CO bets $5.00, Hero raises to $6.80 and is all-in, CO calls $1.80

Spoiler:


So frustrating.

Hand 3:

This is the only hand where I made a big mistake.

Villain is 50/0, agg freq of 25 over ~50 hands. Read: SUPER PASSIVE FISH.

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $10.00
Hero (BTN): $9.80
SB: $10.53
BB: $13.80
UTG: $9.50
MP: $5.37

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.10, CO posts DB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero has Q 4 5 A

fold, fold, CO checks, Hero calls $0.10, SB checks, BB checks

Flop: ($0.40, 4 players) Q 2 Q
SB checks, BB checks, CO bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.80, fold, fold, CO calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.00, 2 players) 5
CO checks, Hero bets $1.35, CO calls $1.35

River: ($4.70, 2 players) 8
CO bets $4.70, Hero calls $4.70

Spoiler:


pre/flop are standard. Turn is a small mistake. This loose passive fish is never folding a Q, I should always pot the turn here.

River is a snap fold. Was tilted and called.

Hand 4:

Villain is same villain from hand 2. laggro tard.

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: $9.09
UTG: $11.87
MP: $13.07
CO: $30.36
BTN: $13.97
Hero (SB): $11.41

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has A 5 K J

UTG raises to $0.40, fold, CO calls $0.40, fold, Hero calls $0.30, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.60, 4 players) 2 8 A
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks

Turn: ($1.60, 4 players) 5
Hero bets $1.20, fold, fold, CO calls $1.20

River: ($4.00, 2 players) T
Hero checks, CO bets $4.00, Hero calls $4.00

Spoiler:


^.^

Yeah so biggest pot of the session was a marginal hero call. Sucks I had the Kh in my hand, that alone almost made me fold.

Also had 2 hands where I had a SPR~1 with AA/KK and jammed the flop running into the nuts each time.
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#1, meh, even against the nuts we have 12-16 outs. I think he could easily have bottom J7/76 or a pair+NFD.
i know we have outs but i hate having to b/c because i'm always behind, and only hands that we get value from are what u said, pair+NFD.
and he's not ever folding J7/67 at this limit.
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#1 i'd rather not cbet that board into 2 people
#2 it's fine i guess. although i really dislike the big bet on the river when people usually c/c a flush in this spot or bet smaller. and they rarely triple barrel a paired board without a fh
#3 definetly fold river.
#4 he doesn't repp much. he would've bet any A on the flop. probably raised turn with a straight or set. so it's a clear call, especially against a lagtard. like the check to induce.
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#1 i'd rather not cbet that board into 2 people
#2 it's fine i guess. although i really dislike the big bet on the river when people usually c/c a flush in this spot or bet smaller. and they rarely triple barrel a paired board without a fh
#3 definetly fold river.
#4 he doesn't repp much. he would've bet any A on the flop. probably raised turn with a straight or set. so it's a clear call, especially against a lagtard. like the check to induce.
For #2, he bet pot into me
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Re: Crushing PLO (PLO5-->PLO200)

Session 2:



So yeah, ran pretty bad.

Lately I've been going over a bunch of hands where I made mistakes. I'm going to go over some hands where I thought I played well.

Hand 1:

Villain is 32/10, 20 agg freq

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $22.54
SB: $5.82
Hero (BB): $14.88
UTG: $11.06

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has A A 6 T

fold, fold, SB checks, Hero raises to $0.30, SB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.60, 2 players) Q 4 2
SB checks, Hero bets $0.30, SB raises to $1.20, fold

Spoiler:


Love my fold here. Sometimes when I'm losing/tilting I auto re-ship this with the nut blocker. He's never folding a flush on this flop with SPR <10.

Hand 2:

Villain is 22/18 71 agg freq over 50 hands.

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: $5.06
Hero (UTG): $12.52
CO: $8.63
BTN: $9.69
SB: $6.17

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has A A 7 2

Hero raises to $0.40, fold, BTN calls $0.40, fold, fold

Flop: ($1.00, 2 players) 3 4 9
Hero bets $0.80, BTN raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1.70

Turn: ($6.00, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, BTN bets $4.00, Hero raises to $9.62 and is all-in, BTN calls $2.79 and is all-in

River: ($19.58, 2 players) 4

Spoiler:


Played this like a champ. Lol results.

Hand 3:

Villain is 70/10, 30 agg freq, super loose post-flop

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP: $9.64
CO: $12.35
Hero (BTN): $10.08
SB: $14.19
BB: $10.49
UTG: $3.20

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has Q 5 K T

fold, fold, CO calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, fold, fold, CO calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.20, 2 players) 4 T 6
CO checks, Hero bets $1.00, CO calls $1.00

Turn: ($3.20, 2 players) 3
CO checks, Hero bets $1.50, CO calls $1.50

River: ($6.20, 2 players) Q
CO checks, Hero bets $2.50, CO calls $2.50

Spoiler:


Turn I'm ahead some of the time, behind some of the time. I bet so that he can't bluff the river. Also, if he c/c I can bluff a heart if he checks, vbet if I hit 2 pair.

Hand 4:

Villain is 50/25, 8 hands..

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: $21.66
Hero (BTN): $9.80
SB: $11.79

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has 7 8 7 9

Hero raises to $0.40, SB calls $0.30, fold

Flop: ($0.90, 2 players) 5 K J
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.90, 2 players) 6
SB checks, Hero bets $0.70, SB calls $0.70

River: ($2.30, 2 players) J
SB bets $1.00, Hero raises to $2.50, fold

Spoiler:


Hand 5:

Villain is 21/16 62 cbet %, tight/passive in general.

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $12.88
BTN: $9.36
Hero (SB): $15.36
BB: $19.86
UTG: $10.00
MP: $1.92

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has A T 5 Q

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.40, fold, Hero calls $0.30, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.20, 3 players) 9 3 9
Hero checks, BB checks, CO bets $1.00, Hero raises to $3.00, fold, fold

Spoiler:


Hand 6:

Villain UTG is 20/10 over 10ish hands. MP is 50/5 fish.

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $10.66
BTN: $22.63
SB: $26.97
Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $9.82
MP: $19.01

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has T T K A

UTG raises to $0.40, fold, CO calls $0.40, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.30, 3 players) 9 J 5
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.40, CO calls $0.40, Hero raises to $2.90, fold, fold

Spoiler:


Loved my c/r here trapping the fish.

Hand 7:

Villain is 15/8 over 40ish hands. high cbet %

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $17.05
BTN: $1.75
SB: $7.56
Hero (BB): $16.75
UTG: $9.60

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has 7 J 5 J

fold, CO raises to $0.40, fold, SB calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.20, 3 players) Q 5 6
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $0.60, fold, Hero raises to $2.40, fold

Spoiler:


These are all from this session.
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Re: Crushing PLO (PLO5-->PLO200)

Morning session:



Pretty gross.. I made a huge stack-off mistake with KK75ss when I 4bet pre vs a villain who was playing his second hand... ugh;

Hand 1:

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BTN): $13.32
SB: $12.95
BB: $11.64
UTG: $10.39
CO: $10.30

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has 2 K K 5

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.40, SB raises to $1.00, fold, Hero raises to $3.10, SB calls $2.10

Flop: ($6.30, 2 players) 3 9 7
SB checks, Hero bets $5.00, SB raises to $9.85 and is all-in, Hero calls $4.85

Turn: ($26.00, 2 players) J

River: ($26.00, 2 players) K

Spoiler:


Yeah.. pre action is marginal, def dislike flop. I think a b/f of $2.75 is better.. I just assume all unknowns are complete droolers.

Hand 2:

Villain is 80/20 agg freq of 50 over 10 hands..

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $14.26
SB: $3.93
BB: $27.42
UTG: $4.57
Hero (CO): $16.45

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has K A 4 9

UTG calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, fold, SB calls $0.30, fold, UTG calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.30, 3 players) 2 A 2
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.70, SB calls $0.70, fold

Turn: ($2.70, 2 players) J
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($2.70, 2 players) 3
SB bets $0.50, fold

Spoiler:


Not sure what to do here.. should I bet the turn small?

Hand 3:

Villain is 50/10, peel light post flop.

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $2.32
BB: $20.98
Hero (BTN): $9.86

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has 8 T 7 7

Hero raises to $0.40, fold, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.90, 2 players) 2 T K
BB checks, Hero bets $0.70, BB calls $0.70

Turn: ($2.30, 2 players) K
BB checks, Hero bets $1.50, BB calls $1.50

River: ($5.30, 2 players) 9
BB checks, Hero checks

Spoiler:


I like my turn barrel here..

Hand4:

BB is 30/10/4, MP is 70/5/0 fish..

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: $8.22
MP: $8.20
CO: $4.00
Hero (BTN): $9.99
SB: $16.59
BB: $13.45

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has Q A 3 J

fold, MP raises to $0.20, CO calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, fold, BB raises to $1.10, MP calls $0.90, fold, Hero calls $0.90

Flop: ($3.60, 3 players) 4 3 6
BB checks, MP bets $0.40, fold, BB calls $0.40

Turn: ($4.40, 2 players) 8
BB checks, MP checks

River: ($4.40, 2 players) Q
BB checks, MP checks

Spoiler:


Pretty sure I should float this flop. Angry I folded given how the hand played out.

Thats about it for interesting spots.
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Session 2:




Didn't play that great. Ran into a bunch of sick spots, though. I think maybe I overplay non-nut full houses on the river..

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BTN): $23.82
SB: $9.62
BB: $16.81
UTG: $11.04
CO: $49.31

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has 6 A J 6

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.40, fold, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.90, 2 players) 6 A J
BB checks, Hero bets $0.80, BB calls $0.80

Turn: ($2.50, 2 players) Q
BB bets $1.75, Hero calls $1.75

River: ($6.00, 2 players) A
BB bets $3.50, Hero raises to $14.00, BB calls $10.36 and is all-in

Spoiler:


Villain is 39/10 45 agg freq fish. I feel like since I have all the blockers I should just call here.. I thought maybe QQKT, or AKT, AKdd.. but probably doesn't call the raise (even though he's a fish).

Hand 2:

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $4.77
BB: $9.80
Hero (UTG): $20.27
CO: $7.61
BTN: $10.56

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has J Q 4 Q

Hero raises to $0.40, fold, fold, SB calls $0.30, fold

Flop: ($0.90, 2 players) A Q 6
SB checks, Hero bets $0.60, SB calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.10, 2 players) A
SB checks, Hero bets $1.60, SB calls $1.60

River: ($5.30, 2 players) 8
SB checks, Hero bets $2.70, SB calls $2.17 and is all-in

Spoiler:


Villain is only 32/6 but has called me super light in the past...


Btw fun stat: I'm break-even when I make a full-house over the last 40 hands- sweet!
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Man, just saw this on the front page of PG&C. Grunching this post, but will grind the thread later tonight. Just wanted to stop in and say gl OP!
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Thx!


Played 2 session today, played very poorly.. I give my sessions a D+



I made a stupid river c/r bluff with the nut blocker.. Lost a stack.

Then, I made a stupid 4b pre with KK74ss when a aggro monkey with 20% 3bet on the button 3bet the button. He 4bet and I called getting 2.2:1. AA7Q with dominated suits-- obv. Didn't think you could get it in with less than 26% equity preflop in PLO? Think again.



The biggest pot I won was a marginal shove...

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

UTG: $4.71
BTN: $9.59
SB: $7.09
Hero (BB): $12.56

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has Ad Kd 5h Kh

fold, BTN raises to $0.30, SB calls $0.20, Hero raises to $1.20, BTN calls $0.90, SB calls $0.90

Flop: ($3.60, 3 players) 2h 3c Tc
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $3.60, SB calls $3.60, Hero raises to $11.36 and is all-in, BTN calls $4.79 and is all-in, fold

Turn: ($23.98, 2 players) As

River: ($23.98, 2 players) 8s

BTN shows 2d Kc 5d Jc (One Pair, Twos) (Pre 27%, Flop 53%, Turn 44%)
Hero shows Ad Kd 5h Kh (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 73%, Flop 47%, Turn 56%)
Hero wins $22.39


Basically the SB is a 80/20 fish. The btn is 30/20/6 regular. I know he's not going to pot it here with a set because he wants me and/or the fish to call. When he pots I put him mostly on flush draws and 2pairs, some air. Once the fish calls there is too much money for me to fold..


I run into the exact same situation in this hand;

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

CO: $21.72
Hero (BTN): $11.28
SB: $6.32
BB: $6.09
UTG: $12.25

SB posts SB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.10) Hero has 4h Ks 9s Jh

BB calls $0.10, UTG calls $0.10, fold, Hero raises to $0.50, SB calls $0.40, fold, UTG calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.60, 3 players) 6c 9h 4c
SB bets $1.60, fold, Hero raises to $6.40, SB calls $4.22 and is all-in

Turn: ($13.24, 2 players) 3h

River: ($13.24, 2 players) 3s

Hero shows 4h Ks 9s Jh (Two Pair, Nines and Fours) (Pre 49%, Flop 52%, Turn 70%)
SB shows Ac 8c 5d Qh (One Pair, Threes) (Pre 51%, Flop 48%, Turn 30%)
Hero wins $12.36


Basically these micro fish c/r sets or bet 2/3-3/4 pot. Pot donk is almost always a draw.

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $9.90
BB: $4.99
UTG: $3.50
CO: $2.66
Hero (BTN): $25.06

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.10, UTG posts DB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero has K 5 K Q

UTG checks, CO calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.60, fold, BB raises to $2.10, fold, fold, Hero raises to $6.60, BB calls $2.89 and is all-in

Flop: ($10.28, 2 players) 5 K 9

Turn: ($10.28, 2 players) 5

River: ($10.28, 2 players) 6

Spoiler:


Thought 26% was bad? I am so good at this game that I can actually get it in with 25% preflop. You know whats really fun? I have 27.4% equity against premium aces

Omaha Hi Simulation ?
600,000 trials (Randomized)
Hand Equity Wins Ties
KsKcQs5s 27.39% 163,704 1,260
1% 72.61% 435,036 1,260


Anyways, I just standard shove kings against short stackers that aren't 100% nits. This guy was 40/8/5 over 50 hands. I need ~44.8% equity to call here.

Omaha Hi Simulation ?
600,000 trials (Randomized)
Hand Equity Wins Ties
KsKcQs5s 42.85% 244,671 24,906
8% 57.15% 330,423 24,906

Omaha Hi Simulation ?
600,000 trials (Randomized)
Hand Equity Wins Ties
KsKcQs5s 46.17% 266,089 21,911
10% 53.83% 312,000 21,911

What's interesting is that after rake, I cant win, even if he's 3betting the top 10%. From now on I'll just fold unless they have <$3.50.. :\

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Old 10-20-2012, 12:52 PM   #167
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Took a little break yesterday. Went rock climbing, visited with friends, partied. Basically wrapping up life in Ottawa in prep for Whistler.

Confidence is shaken in my PLO game. Going to do some quick review of areas I need to improve on (ABC stuff) and fire up a few tables.
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Only 1 session today;



Played a nitty 20/13/4, not many interesting spots.

bday tmrw/move date in a couple days, going to struggle with volume..
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bday ended up being the most traumatizing day of my life.. Had to re-schedule flight for next week. Obviously, going to be playing much less poker the next couple days.
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:27 PM   #172
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Thx for the support guys!


So my mom had a grand mal seizure, and a big one at that. Screamed, fell backwards, started convulsing/shaking/puking, started choking on her own puke/blood, foamed white ****. Pretty sure she nearly died in front of my eyes. I might have saved her life by catching her/scooping puke. Anyways, I've spent the last few days nursing her. Nursing is very consuming work/sucks... A hired nurse comes in tomorrow, thank god.


Thankfully, I'll be able to get back to playing poker. I'm quite anxious to play poker. I'm not sure how you define an addition, but if I'm not addicted to poker, it's got to be something very close (very passionate?). I haven't played since Oct 19th-- which happens to be the longest dry stretch since I went to China over 7 months ago.

Over the next hour I'm going to review some hand histories from the last 2 sessions/review major leaks/major areas of improvement. Later tonight I'll try to get in a PLO10/PLO15 session. (If Ongame traffic permits)
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Good return session:



Only a few meh hands..

Hand 1:

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: $4.50
BTN: $17.52
Hero (SB): $18.57
BB: $31.54

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has 9 K Q T

fold, BTN calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, BB raises to $1.30, BTN calls $1.20, Hero calls $0.90

Flop: ($3.90, 3 players) 8 3 7
Hero checks, BB checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($3.90, 3 players) 4
Hero bets $2.50, BB calls $2.50, fold

River: ($8.90, 2 players) K
Hero bets $6.00, BB calls $6.00

Spoiler:


Villain was 48/20/0 unknown over like 30ish hands..

Hand 2:

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $2.59
Hero (BTN): $10.02
SB: $9.40
BB: $6.82
UTG: $10.85
MP: $14.74

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has 7 8 5 6

fold, MP raises to $0.40, fold, Hero calls $0.40, fold, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.30, 3 players) 8 8 4
BB checks, MP bets $1.00, Hero raises to $2.55, BB calls $2.55, fold

Turn: ($7.40, 2 players) 3
BB checks, Hero bets $4.00, BB calls $3.87 and is all-in

River: ($15.14, 2 players) 4

Spoiler:


This hand was stupid. Turn is the easiest check ever. I beat nothing.

Hand 3:

Villain is 44/24

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: $14.40
BTN: $16.58
Hero (SB): $15.62

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has K Q 9 T

BTN raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1.00, fold, BTN calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.10, 2 players) T A 3
Hero bets $1.25, BTN calls $1.25

Turn: ($4.60, 2 players) 6
Hero bets $3.50, BTN calls $3.50

River: ($11.60, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, BTN checks

Spoiler:


Hand 4:

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: $12.00
UTG: $15.83
MP: $10.00
CO: $13.30
Hero (BTN): $10.00
SB: $3.75

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has K 3 6 K

UTG raises to $0.40, MP calls $0.40, fold, Hero calls $0.40, fold, fold

Flop: ($1.40, 3 players) 5 T Q
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets $1.00, UTG calls $1.00, fold

Turn: ($3.40, 2 players) 4
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.50, UTG calls $2.50

River: ($8.40, 2 players) 2
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.75, UTG raises to $11.93 and is all-in, Hero calls $4.35 and is all-in

Spoiler:


Lol..
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Decent morning session;



Actually lost, but I played well.

Hand 1:

Biggest hand, possibly spew? villain is 70/40 15% fold 2 3b, c/f 55% in 3bet pots.

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: $28.56
UTG: $17.42
MP: $6.28
CO: $19.15
Hero (BTN): $12.84
SB: $3.10

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has 3 8 8 3

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.40, fold, fold, CO calls $1.00

Flop: ($3.00, 2 players) 7 T 3
CO checks, Hero bets $1.75, CO calls $1.75

Turn: ($6.50, 2 players) J
CO checks, Hero bets $3.00, CO raises to $6.00, Hero calls $3.00

River: ($18.50, 2 players) A
CO bets $4.60, Hero calls $3.69 and is all-in

Spoiler:


Should I b/f the turn? The J absolutely smashes his pfr/c, c/c flop range. I figure all is QQ**/KK** folds this turn, only get value from 2 pairs. Once I get raised OTT, is folding an option? If I put him on TT/JJ/89, I get 3:1 and its a fold. Anyways-- don't think I made any big mistakes in this hand.

Hand 2:

Standard stack off.. :\

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (UTG): $8.97
MP: $6.09
CO: $9.43
BTN: $10.69
SB: $0.60
BB: $10.51

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has 9 9 7 7

Hero raises to $0.40, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.60 and is all-in, BB raises to $2.20, Hero calls $1.80

Flop: ($5.00, 3 players) 8 T A
BB bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

Turn: ($10.00, 3 players) 3
BB bets $5.81 and is all-in, Hero calls $4.27 and is all-in

River: ($18.54, 3 players) K

Spoiler:


Hand 3:

Flop decision is close.. villain is 30/8, 50 aggro freq over <50 hands.

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BB): $11.63
UTG: $3.50
MP: $4.60
CO: $8.73
BTN: $47.87
SB: $9.90

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.10, UTG posts DB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero has Q A A 4

UTG checks, fold, fold, fold, SB checks, Hero raises to $0.40, fold, SB calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.90, 2 players) 8 3 5
SB checks, Hero bets $0.70, SB raises to $2.10, Hero calls $1.40

Turn: ($5.10, 2 players) 7
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($5.10, 2 players) 3
SB checks, Hero checks

Spoiler:


Hand 4:

This hand is close.. Villain has 15% sb steal..

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $2.94
SB: $22.62
Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $3.50
MP: $8.94
CO: $10.24

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has 3 9 4 8

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.60, 2 players) Q 7 3
SB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.60, 2 players) 9
SB bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20

River: ($4.00, 2 players) 5
SB checks, Hero checks

Spoiler:


Turn is a flat, or should I ever be raising for protection/value from draws/avoid getting bluffed on the river?

Hand 5:

Villain is 70/40, 45 aggro freq. Peels flop light.

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $22.91
Hero (SB): $10.24
BB: $4.80
UTG: $4.10
CO: $23.10

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has K Q 5 A

UTG calls $0.10, fold, BTN calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, fold, UTG calls $0.40, BTN calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.60, 3 players) 7 K 3
Hero bets $1.20, fold, BTN calls $1.20

Turn: ($4.00, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, BTN bets $4.00, Hero raises to $8.54 and is all-in, BTN calls $4.54

River: ($21.08, 2 players) 9

Spoiler:


Thoughts on the turn? Is this just a standard barrel? I figure all his 7x 3x hands are almost dead, and he's almost always going to bet/call clubs.. Standard is to barrel here vs a loose villain aggro villain, but figured c/r might be best here considering I'll be c/f'ing a lot with AK here..
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