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04-18-2014 , 12:28 PM
When you come back to Tampa we can play some tennis. I play 2 or 3 times a week in a ladder. (I'm 4.0-4.5.) If you were 4.0 before, I'm sure it wouldn't take you long to get back there.
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04-19-2014 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by machi5
When you come back to Tampa we can play some tennis. I play 2 or 3 times a week in a ladder. (I'm 4.0-4.5.) If you were 4.0 before, I'm sure it wouldn't take you long to get back there.
Sweet, much rather play someone better than me anyways.



6.5 hours since last update, 5842 bal. Feel like I'm running really bad, but can't confirm. Played a few mtts. I think I'm 2/11 ITT coming 12th both times.

I've been watching a bunch of run it once videos on mtts and plo cash. That website is solid quality, just can't justify the $100/month sub if I'm only getting 1-2 good vids per week. I feel like It's better to pay for a membership two or three times a year and go through all the good vids.


1 more mtt/plo session today then likely to go out for some dranking
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04-19-2014 , 07:44 PM
What length session do you find is best for you?
Mostly 6max? I don't notice a ton of HUHU, but feel like that is what you played last year on Stars.
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04-21-2014 , 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Brown Keeper
What length session do you find is best for you?
Mostly 6max? I don't notice a ton of HUHU, but feel like that is what you played last year on Stars.
I think that there are a few factors involved when it comes to optimal session length. First, there is endurance. When I first start playing online after a long break I find 50-80minutes is best. These days I think 90minutes-120minutes works best. My theory is that playing online works some assortment of brain muscle. I think if I play 9-10 sessions/week that I'll be able play my A/B-game longer every couple weeks. Diminishing returns though-- like most muscles.

Second factor is hard for me to explain. It comes down to be being prone to mistake tilt. If I play 5-10minutes of C or D level poker, I am prone to tilt and may even experience mental strain after the session in regret of a large mistake. My strategy now is that if I make a big mistake or catch myself in auto-pilot I just sit-out next BB and tighten up for the last few hands. Some people can play 5 hours and will just play C-game for a small profit for the last couple hours and not have a problem with it.

Yeah I'm playing mostly 6max, but will sometimes sit HU. I like to start tables and play short-handed unless I'm certain I'm playing a decent reg. (rake = ) I like to mix it up. I get bored easily. I'm even mixing in NLH MTTs these days.

6 hours since last update. 6310 ending bal. Too bad I don't have a hand converter. I played some really cool hands recently, and saw some ridiculously fishy hands. I made a massive bluff catch on 942r with AA9K versus a pot c/r squeeze from an aggro fish. Turn came Txx and he potted and I 2.5x raised allin, he called it off with 775Jxx. notes helped on that one

I watched a couple cool videos on motivation. One of my favourite speakers... same guy whom kept me entertained for ~15 hours driving up the east coast;
Part 1
Part 2
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04-22-2014 , 04:39 AM
I watched two RIO videos on MTTs and played ~6 hour MTT session today. It was fun. I got 6 MTTS up and set up a 6 square grid on paper for taking notes. Played 8 total, in the $12-40 dollar range. They had a pretty cool one that is a $20 buyin and $5 rebuys and $20 addon. The game is pretty crazy action during the rebuy period.

The level of play is pretty horrible. I don't really have a great idea of optimal play, but there are so many things I see that are just lol-terrible. General aggression works well. I've had people show-fold AJo and 55 facing 3b squeezes pre with perfect re-steal stack size. c/r reggy looking sizing versus players that have never open-limped(check notes) or raising weak donk leads seems to work really well as an unknown.

I ended up having an interesting hand in a 3 handed situation versus a player I had many notes on. He was sitting 3 players away on my left at the final table I noted him using good 3b steal spot 2x, and playing well in general. We were 3-handed and he'd ~2.75x raise (~3/6 sample now) the SBvBB and I raised/folded once and (he'd also 3b/f'ed me 1/1 in reversed positions 5 handed). I have also witnessed him having 3b battles with another reg I thought was aggro.

It was our 3rd 4b+ pot in 60-80 hands at the final table. I 3b planning to 5b ship 66. I thought given the dynamic he was going to 4b bluff a high frequency(We were ~28BB deep). I think it went 2.75x -> 5.75x -> 10x -> 28x -> he ended up snappp-calling with ATo. His call was good, imo. I think my shove range would be something like (55-88 discounted(I wouldn't 3b these hands at a high frequency in this spot), 99-AA, AJs, Aqo, AKo, KQs discounted, a3s discounted).

He's gotta call with ATo;

Hand Equity Wins Ties
AJs, AQ, AK, 66, 99-AA, 67s, ad3d, ac3c, KdQd, KcQc 66.51% 79,202,990 3,309,291
AsTc 33.49% 39,061,303 3,309,291

Played 3 hours 4tables+, 2 hours of 1 or 2 tables. Should that qualify as playing 6 hours or something like 5-5.5 hours? ending bal 7191.
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04-22-2014 , 05:40 AM
Owen Cook is a super smart guy, I've been watching his videos for a couple years. He has a lot of great ideas that resonate with me and lot of the stuff he says is applicable to playing poker as well as picking up chicks. I really like the "truth about success" videos.
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04-22-2014 , 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by pure_aggression
Owen Cook is a super smart guy, I've been watching his videos for a couple years. He has a lot of great ideas that resonate with me and lot of the stuff he says is applicable to playing poker as well as picking up chicks. I really like the "truth about success" videos.
My roommate in whistler showed me ~1.5 years ago. I've watched most of his videos since. If you haven't yet, make sure to get blueprint. I'll give truth about success a watch.

More MTTs tomorrow.
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04-23-2014 , 05:16 PM
3 hour mtt session, 1 hour plo session 7576 ending bal. I'm going to go to my uncles house on Friday and will hopefully have my first cashout waiting.

Starting up MTT session soon. My normal strat is to play 1-4 PLO tables as MTTS in the $10-40 range load up. Takes about 1-1.5hours to get 6 mtt tables up.

I'm watching Owen Cook's (RSD Tyler) video on success. Very impressed thus far. I want to do a write up on some key points from those videos soon.
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04-24-2014 , 06:03 AM
This months volume is lol.. 70 online hours, 16.25 live. Despite major slackage.. I'm going to get that 120. I think this will be my lowest volume month of all time.. even if I smash this week with 40 hours.

I've exercised nearly every day this month and meditated nearly every night. I will be making a 100% commitment to this.. because 90% commitments are so much harder to keep.

I've been keeping an eye on new listings in tampa area. I found a place a mile away from a university that can fetch $800-850/mo listed for $25k. ~90% occupancy = ~$7000-8000/yr cashflow on a $25k investment. I suspect most investors won't touch this one just because of the price point. Just like how most $2/5 regs rather play below average $2/5 games than really good $1/2 games.

I feel like perhaps I'm missing something in the Florida market. Random fees or taxes? All the returns seem so much better than Cali/Canada/Maryland.
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04-24-2014 , 11:53 AM
u planning on paying in cash? that deal sounds insane, and getting a traditional loan mortgage wouldn't be more than like $150/mo either - how sure are you that you can rent at 800+/mo. No tens of thousands of repairs and upgrades needed? keep us posted if/when you move forward, sounds like a steal on paper
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04-24-2014 , 05:09 PM
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u planning on paying in cash? that deal sounds insane, and getting a traditional loan mortgage wouldn't be more than like $150/mo either - how sure are you that you can rent at 800+/mo. No tens of thousands of repairs and upgrades needed? keep us posted if/when you move forward, sounds like a steal on paper
It doesn't list TLC or any issues, but it probably needs some repairs. The house looks lame, but the target market is poor 19-21 year old college kids, so whatever. Houses are going for $30-50k in that area, normally have +5-15% sqft feet.

I plan on paying in cash for the first couple deals and then doing a "portfolio loan" which is basically a secured line of credit supported on the equity in multiple properties. I will be able to get 2 houses for sure, maybe 3 if I run hot the next couple months.

That's the general plan. If these deals are as good as they look then I'll just start borrowing money at ~10% from friends/family/private lenders and build a massive portfolio. Even at 10% interest and no capital appreciation these houses will turn a 10-20%/yr cash flow profit for a couple hours of management a month.
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04-24-2014 , 06:14 PM
Do you have property in Canada?
Or just know the market as that is your country of origin?
Besides our main residences we were lucky to snag a few places in vegas at the bottom.
Good to see when poker players are putting their money to work for them.
I feel like way too many, maybe less so now that the boom years are passed, only focus on their bankroll and not passive income streams.
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04-24-2014 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Brown Keeper
Do you have property in Canada?
Or just know the market as that is your country of origin?
Besides our main residences we were lucky to snag a few places in vegas at the bottom.
Good to see when poker players are putting their money to work for them.
I feel like way too many, maybe less so now that the boom years are passed, only focus on their bankroll and not passive income streams.
I studied finance growing up and was always interested in markets. Some of the east markets in ottawa seem to be bottoming out.. but even with depressed prices the ROIs are so much worse. $200k home rent out at $1600-1800/mo is a third the ROI vs Tampa.

I didn't really look much into Vegas. What type of house did you get and at what price? What can you rent it out at? I check CL and see 3BRs renting for $900/mo in the east areas but can't find homes under $50k.
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04-26-2014 , 01:06 AM
5 hour MTT session and I cashed like 3/10 but only 1 final table (and it was in the smallest buyin event).

After the MTT session I did a workout (quick 20minuter). Then I fired up $3/6 and $2/4 table and a couple $1/2 tables. within a few minutes of playing I raise btn with JT86ds at $2/4 and 3b BB with AQQ at $3/6. My tables freeze and my timer starts ticking down and I'm already running to the router to reset it in hopes that I can get back within the ~90 seconds. But.. Nope. -$100 on disconnect.

5 hours of $5-$30 MTTs and no disconnects.. 10 minutes of PLO and snap disconnect. Running so bad with disconnect timing.

7 hours yesterday, 5.25 hours today. 6585 ending bal. Showing volume who's da bosssss.

I'm planning on playing live soon.
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04-26-2014 , 05:39 PM
tether your iphone as a backup internet connection, ez game
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04-26-2014 , 06:02 PM
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tether your iphone as a backup internet connection, ez game
Damn, good idea. Will do.

vegas houseeee 5 weeks
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04-27-2014 , 04:52 AM
6.25 hours, 9563 ending bal.

Played great for the first 6 hours, but... just made a massssssive mistake at the end of the session.

Going to uncles tomorrow. Hopefully bovada monies/2 ft of mail will be waiting.

Will have to figure out this tethering business tomorrow too.

Cool video on tribal behaviour
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04-27-2014 , 04:44 PM
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6.25 hours, 9563 ending bal.

Played great for the first 6 hours, but... just made a massssssive mistake at the end of the session.

Going to uncles tomorrow. Hopefully bovada monies/2 ft of mail will be waiting.

Will have to figure out this tethering business tomorrow too.

Cool video on tribal behaviour
It's just settings -> personal hotspot -> then switch it on for tethering
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Damn, good idea. Will do.

vegas houseeee 5 weeks
With how I've been running lately, Vegas house is an uncertainty
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04-28-2014 , 08:17 PM
^ I hope you can make it out!

I had some good catch up time with some extended family. My family is really awesome, I'm mad lucky to have my blood/genes.

I'm going to a playoff hockey game tonight. I'm pretty stoked. LA kings game 6, facing elimination.

Volume fail again. 2 hours since last post, ending bal 9921. I got the first cheque for $3k from bovada. It was dated the day after I requested the payout, and it was Fedexed.
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04-28-2014 , 08:35 PM
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^ I hope you can make it out!

I had some good catch up time with some extended family. My family is really awesome, I'm mad lucky to have my blood/genes.

I'm going to a playoff hockey game tonight. I'm pretty stoked. LA kings game 6, facing elimination.

Volume fail again. 2 hours since last post, ending bal 9921. I got the first cheque for $3k from bovada. It was dated the day after I requested the payout, and it was Fedexed.
Yeah, bovada has been great with payouts, been lucky with both wires and checks.
Hopefully when California regulates it's just as smooth.
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04-29-2014 , 09:52 AM
I read two threads on 2p2 and both OPs went to Kings game hmmmm.
I will be at Bike for Super Tuesday PLO @2pm so bring the panda if you guys wanna play.
Man, I used to read and post a ton in strat forums here, but I still have this weird necessity/habit to login to 2p2 to check something, and now that my FTP $ is returned I no longer check that thread so I'm down to just surfing your and Dons thread.
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04-29-2014 , 05:49 PM
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Yeah, bovada has been great with payouts, been lucky with both wires and checks.
Hopefully when California regulates it's just as smooth.
Yup. Everyones payouts are going through smoothly, so thats good news.

Despite the good payouts, I don't feel comfortable playing in the regulatory environment. I recently heard that bovada is stealing revenues from the legal online poker market, which may induce ban hammer.

My plan is to get 90% of funds off before Vegas.


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I read two threads on 2p2 and both OPs went to Kings game hmmmm.
I will be at Bike for Super Tuesday PLO @2pm so bring the panda if you guys wanna play.
Man, I used to read and post a ton in strat forums here, but I still have this weird necessity/habit to login to 2p2 to check something, and now that my FTP $ is returned I no longer check that thread so I'm down to just surfing your and Dons thread.
Hehe yeah, went with the panda and fogo. It's pretty unlikely I'll make it out tot he bike tonight. LA PLO games have been really poor the last few weeks, wouldn't you agree?

I think that bovada is a better bet for me. 10-15bb/100 translates into an hourly roughly the same as your average $5/5/10 PLO game.

I'm glad to have you as a follower. Lately, most of my posts have been pretty routine. I'm trying to get some external content on here. Mainly motivational/self-improvment related. I also tend to get myself into some interesting life spots, mostly with woman, and I'm shameless when it comes to posting details.

edit: Going for 8 hours online today. I think that would be a record if I can hit it. 2 hours in thus far.
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04-30-2014 , 02:58 AM
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LA PLO games have been really poor the last few weeks, wouldn't you agree?

I think that bovada is a better bet for me. 10-15bb/100 translates into an hourly roughly the same as your average $5/5/10 PLO game.
Games have still been decent but not crazy good.

I dont know online PLO winrates really well, but I've assumed that at 200PLO (the biggest my Bovada roll can support) my WR wouldnt be good way of spending my time. Is 10-15bb/100 a reasonable expectation? Seems pretty high but lets use it.

Lets say 4 tables at 10bb/100; thats 4*10*$2=$80/100 hands. There is about 80 hands/ hr in PLO, correct? So thats $64/hr which is under half what I'd expect to make at 5/5/10 PLO.
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04-30-2014 , 03:21 AM
Booooom 8.5 hours. ending bal 12117

Played a 4.5 hour mtt session and shipped 1st in a small field and 6th in a medium field.

I'm thinking about doing a trip sometime in May. Maybe to Costa Rica. I want to explore and play some scoop events...
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04-30-2014 , 03:36 AM
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Games have still been decent but not crazy good.

I dont know online PLO winrates really well, but I've assumed that at 200PLO (the biggest my Bovada roll can support) my WR wouldnt be good way of spending my time. Is 10-15bb/100 a reasonable expectation? Seems pretty high but lets use it.

Lets say 4 tables at 10bb/100; thats 4*10*$2=$80/100 hands. There is about 80 hands/ hr in PLO, correct? So thats $64/hr which is under half what I'd expect to make at 5/5/10 PLO.
Yup, something like that. I try to get 2 tables of $2/4 or 1 table $2/4 + $3/6. I think average hands/hr may be a bit less on bovada. People (me included) time out all the time. hourly is in the $50-100/hr range. Tough to give a tighter range without having much data.

I also suspect my hourly is less than $100/hr in the types of games I've been playing recently at the bike. The average of my last 3 sessions would be ~3.5/10.
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