Yeah, both his range pre and cbet pot frequency on the turn indicate his range is set heavy. Its a fold. Burned ~10-15% on a huge bet there.

This vegas house thing is turning out to be much more work than I originally anticipated. Had 1 person bail, just got one more deposit. Got 2 in maybe territory. Probably not worth the $/hr savings in the end. Will only do again if I have a bunch of maybe's lined up.

Gonna play some PLO100 today.

Played horrible today. Lucky to get away without losing too much. Multiple 25bb mistakes mostly at the end of the session. Quit after making ~5 big mistakes. Really disappointed with my play today..

Tomorrow is a new day!



edit: Ugh, just reviewed a few hands. Absolutely horrible call downs oop.. gross.

Last few days have been slow. Been partying and such, not too much volume.

Playing B+, nothing great. 0/2 on triple barrel naked A bluffs. 0/2 for 3 streets with nut flushes. Sigh.

Played a PLO8 $5 rebuy tournament and cashed.



Going to cottage tomorrow. First time up in 2 years, pretty pumped.

Montreal the day after. Staying for the night and playing the 2-day $550 PLO event.

Playing well today. 1 Massive cooler. Found a super massive whale at the end of the session. Watch dis;

PokerStars - $1 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $61.81 (VPIP: 17.54, PFR: 5.26, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 58)
BB: $172.70 (VPIP: 23.03, PFR: 16.01, 3Bet Preflop: 7.03, Hands: 359)
UTG: $65.86 (VPIP: 15.76, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 6.54, Hands: 430)
MP: $347.97 (VPIP: 92.31, PFR: 74.36, 3Bet Preflop: 52.38, Hands: 80)
Hero (CO): $369.15
BTN: $100.00 (VPIP: 26.19, PFR: 18.06, 3Bet Preflop: 8.67, Hands: 458)

SB posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $1.50) Hero has A A 6 T

UTG raises to $2.00, MP raises to $7.50, Hero calls $7.50, fold, fold, fold, UTG raises to $31.50, MP raises to $55.50, Hero raises to $199.50, UTG calls $34.36 and is all-in, MP calls $144.00

Flop: ($466.36, 3 players) 5 A Q
MP checks, Hero bets $169.65 and is all-in, MP calls $148.47 and is all-in

Turn: ($763.30, 3 players) T

River: ($763.30, 3 players) 6



Also final tabled 2 MTTs. ($5/$22 BIs-- nothing big) 18/100 MTTs for the month.




Montreal tomorrow, Playing $550 PLO 3 lives event, I've got half my action --pretty pumped.

Good luck man. Ship some nickels!

Thx bud!

I advanced to day 2, 2nd in chips around 1.75 times average. 1st is 240,000 nickels! ($12k)

Just busted a 7-session losing streaking in PLO live cash. Longest losing streak of all time for me. Broke it with a $40 win

Day 2 starts in <2hours. Only going to play a quick cash session before and take advantage of free food.

Placed 5th in the WPT PLO $550 for $4,000. Happy with my play overall. Made 1-2 marginal mistakes in day 2, one fairly large mistake in day 1.

Just realized that staking doesn't work the way I thought. Standard is to ship off half the winnings, not profits. Staking is more +EV than I thought.

I think if your buying at 1.2 with an average rake of 10%.. than the player needs to have 20% expected ROI to break even? Like say a $100 + $10 package is selling at 1.2, you buy 50% for $66. breakeven EV:
= winnings(.5) - 66

winnings = $132, so ROI = 110*x - 132
x= 20%.. yeah.


Well for those that don't know, I'm selling 50% of my WSOP action at $340+ BIs for 19%. I would expect my ROI to be above 19%, so perhaps this is a +EV spot.

I'm pretty sure its close to +EV for me to sell action for bigger BI events. If I'm playing an average of 5 hours in an event, and averaging a $900 BI.. lets say I have a 30% overall ROI, But only 30% of $900, or $270 / 5 or $27/hr. Yeah, so barely worth it. Assuming my $1/2 PLO hourly is around $20-25, with a little less variance.. Hmm.. I'll have to research standard ROI/hours played for live tournaments. If its <30% or >5hours I don't think its worth it for me to sell a package/play tournaments.

Anywho, enough rambling. Sleep time, gonna shoot for high volume PLO100 tomorrow.

In live tournaments you can prob get much higher than a 30 roi, but yeah its still prob not worth it for you compared to cash depending how much you sell

Yeah, I think this is right. Either I'm off with the ROI break-even calcs.. or there is profit to be made in staking. I'm going to try and get more information on this. Staking seems to be really +EV on first glance.

Yeah, going to buy ~$1k in action for WSOP events.

Ugh, played so bad today. Did 2 short sessions of PLO50/100 and a MTT session. Really unhappy with PLO cash session. Made 2 horrible river calls.



Graph looks pretty, but 2 big mistakes over 1.3k hands is terrible.. :\

Of course staking is +EV, all you need to do is research the person you are staking and determine whether they are a better player then the field. The person being staked can charge a mark up for their time so it reduces the players variance and creates profit for the staker.


Congrats again on the 5th place finish

Congratulations on 5th place, you earned it.

Thx guys, I was really gunning for 1st-- getting 5th felt like a fail at the time. However, when I think about it now, I'm happy. I played well, ran well, and cashed. Good times.

I played pretty well today save 1/2 big mistakes.



Weeee running good

Played really well last 2 sessions. Ran so bad situationally and EV wise.



Some hands where I ran situationally terrible:

PokerStars - $1 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $122.50 (VPIP: 40.54, PFR: 26.15, 3Bet Preflop: 14.84, Hands: 1,133)
CO: $66.58 (VPIP: 36.56, PFR: 4.30, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 94)
Hero (BTN): $114.46
SB: $400.07 (VPIP: 23.17, PFR: 19.50, 3Bet Preflop: 7.52, Hands: 2,575)
BB: $80.00 (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)

SB posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $1.50) Hero has 8 J A K

fold, CO calls $1.00, Hero raises to $4.50, fold, BB calls $3.50, CO calls $3.50

Flop: ($14.00, 3 players) 3 J A
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $9.50, BB calls $9.50, fold

Turn: ($33.00, 2 players) 4
BB checks, Hero bets $20.00, BB calls $20.00

River: ($73.00, 2 players) 5
BB bets $46.00 and is all-in, Hero calls $46.00



PokerStars - $1 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $79.28 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
MP: $51.51 (VPIP: 25.87, PFR: 19.27, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 584)
CO: $80.17 (VPIP: 22.77, PFR: 10.94, 3Bet Preflop: 4.06, Hands: 1,153)
Hero (BTN): $163.39
SB: $52.74 (VPIP: 43.66, PFR: 6.34, 3Bet Preflop: 4.11, Hands: 145)
BB: $162.99 (VPIP: 33.23, PFR: 21.29, 3Bet Preflop: 6.54, Hands: 664)

SB posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $1.50) Hero has J J 3 T

UTG calls $1.00, fold, fold, Hero calls $1.00, SB calls $0.50, BB checks

Flop: ($4.00, 4 players) J 2 6
SB checks, BB bets $3.82, fold, Hero calls $3.82, fold

Turn: ($11.64, 2 players) 2
BB bets $10.00, Hero calls $10.00

River: ($31.64, 2 players) A
BB checks, Hero bets $18.00, BB raises to $48.00, Hero calls $30.00




PokerStars - $1 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $76.56 (VPIP: 88.00, PFR: 36.00, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 26)
SB: $24.80 (VPIP: 75.53, PFR: 11.23, 3Bet Preflop: 2.15, Hands: 191)
Hero (BB): $100.00
UTG: $111.95 (VPIP: 48.55, PFR: 12.45, 3Bet Preflop: 7.80, Hands: 498)
MP: $117.96 (VPIP: 24.78, PFR: 13.90, 3Bet Preflop: 5.99, Hands: 566)
CO: $199.25 (VPIP: 24.29, PFR: 16.43, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 140)

SB posts SB $0.50, Hero posts BB $1.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $1.50) Hero has K J J 8

UTG raises to $2.00, MP calls $2.00, fold, BTN calls $2.00, SB calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.00

Flop: ($10.00, 5 players) 3 J 7
SB checks, Hero bets $7.50, UTG calls $7.50, fold, fold, fold

Turn: ($25.00, 2 players) A
Hero bets $17.00, UTG raises to $34.00, Hero raises to $90.50 and is all-in, UTG calls $56.50

River: ($206.00, 2 players) 5

Arghh felt like I played horrible today. Will review some spots tmrw. May take a break from grinding for a day.

Good news, most of WSOP package is sold. 10% left!

Drove mom to doctor, did session review of yesterday at coffee shop while she was in her appointment. I didn't play too bad yesterday. Few spots where I think c/f > c/c, but nothing horrible.

I put in a ton of volume today. I had a friend sweat me for ~500hands where I played B+. Just played very well my last session. Feeling good about my game.

Been messing around playing a bit differently. Stats were 30/22/10 today.



May have final room sold for Vegas.

3% of my WSOP package remaining! Book for sweat/make monies.

Hi tmckendry

I followed your last PG&C thread & made a few comments but have been non existant in this one as i know nothing about PLO.

Anyway just wanted to say im pleased your getting some good results again & managed to push through your downswing.

Gotta say i like your live reports more but thats just me. Keep up the good work & good luck in the WSOP

5cent

Hey 5cent! Yeah I remember you from my last thread. Hope all is well!

Yeah, that downswing was pretty brutal. Hopefully the next one I'll be better prepared mentally/financially

Bunch of live reports coming up soon in Vegas! (Just sold the rest of my package)

Very nice chellenge, would you say after this long that PLO is where money should be made these days due to regfilled nlh games?
Also, how quickly you went to .25/.50?
Do you play zoom or regular tables or both?
Sorry if some of these been asked before (it's a long thread you must admit it)
Will be following,
glgl sir!

hmm don't have nl online to compare to, but games are pretty reg-fested at PLO200, even PLO100 sometimes. Most the regs aren't that good, though.

I dont play zoom, I feel uncomfortable without a hud..

It is quite a long thread. Actually failed challenge already (PLo200 by may1st) but.. I like writing in here

Argh. in bad mood. Played really well earlier today, started playing poorly.



Sens lost game 1

You can use HUD at zoom tables I think, at least yoi can in NLH zoom, and I just tried to run some PLO25 zoom tables and my hud is working fine...

Is all-in EV useful for PLO to tell whether you're running bad or is it pretty useless?

It's pretty useless for anything ~<50k hands. There is so much "situational" variance in the short-term.

What I mean by situational variance is the deviation from range vs range equity from actual hand v actual hand equity. For instance; You 4 bet AA, villain calls 4b, you get in on a K94r board. Villain has KK. In this case EV line will go straight down because the middle/lower part of your range got all-in against the top of villains range. However, in the longer term EV would go up because your getting it in ahead of his range.

So yeah, over the very long-term the situation variance will even out. I don't know what the std dev of PLO 6max is, but I imagine sample sizes have to be hugeee (200k+) to get anywhere within a few bb/100 of expected winrate during a period.

To add to that.. by the time you have a sample large enough to find your expected WR within reasonable confidence, its not useful. The expected win rate of hero will have changed based on how much was learned in the massive sample.

--- Hud wont work because I play on a mac

edit: Despite it being pretty useless, I still use it daily while trying to evaluate my performace. I'm a whale