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12-13-2012 , 06:23 AM
looking good this

where did u starts to play ?

and what site u play at now?
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12-14-2012 , 12:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by VegetarMad
looking good this

where did u starts to play ?

and what site u play at now?
Thx! Play stars/ftp/ongame.

So, lost 10BIs over 4 sessions of PLO100. Graph:



Ran into a ton of terrible spots, also played a few spots like a fish. Sadly have to move down to PLO50 and grind 20 BIs for another shot
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12-15-2012 , 02:13 AM
Long grind today. Played a couple hands horribly, and lost.

Overall happy with focus levels/grind ethic.

Will be putting in some big volume over the next 2 weeks trying to reach volume goals.

Today's graph;

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12-16-2012 , 05:31 AM
Played another 2k+ day. 4 sessions, about 6 hours of play. Played alright. Made a couple ******ed river calls facing pot sized bets with the near nuts...

This hand tilted me;

OnGame - $0.50 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BTN): $49.00
SB: $158.66
BB: $51.28
UTG: $47.00

SB posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: ($1.00) Hero has 2 Q 7 J

fold, Hero raises to $1.50, SB calls $1.00, fold

Flop: ($3.50, 2 players) 8 J 4
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($3.50, 2 players) 5
SB bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50

River: ($10.50, 2 players) 6
SB bets $10.50, Hero calls $10.50

Spoiler:
SB shows 9 A 8 T (Flush, Ace High)
SB wins $29.93


River is a super clear fold. Turn fold is okay. Guy is aggro reg, but never bluffing with this sizing.

Played a couple other hands poorly, but won't post on here.

Battled with one reg pretty hard today. some 3b wars on dry flops, wars preflop etc, was vs pokerokk @ stars.

Graph for day;



5.6k hands on month, 8.5 buyins until I take another PLO100 shot.
Crushing PLO (PLO5-->PLO200) Quote
12-17-2012 , 01:16 AM
Watched this dude play once. Total whale L_O_L

Wait till variance kicks in, this fish will be flipping burgers in no time
Crushing PLO (PLO5-->PLO200) Quote
12-17-2012 , 01:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by redarator
Watched this dude play once. Total whale L_O_L

Wait till variance kicks in, this fish will be flipping burgers in no time
lambo avatar, what a tool
Crushing PLO (PLO5-->PLO200) Quote
12-17-2012 , 05:58 AM
Only played one session today, 700ish hands. Woke up late, went skiing, got back late and napped. Was planning on playing 2k hands, but decided against it when I saw that the games sucked.

Disappointed with what happened today. I should have played the "bad" games. I am playing PLO micro/small stakes to get better, not to win money. I shoot down the chance to play in reg-fested games. These are exactly the types of games I should be playing to try and improve my game.

Anyways, the games were reggy.. I played super aggro, ran some crazy bluffs. One 100bb bluff was pretty bad, but the rest were mint.

Graph;

Crushing PLO (PLO5-->PLO200) Quote
12-17-2012 , 07:21 AM
5.6k hands on month, 8.5 buyins until I take another PLO100 shot.[/QUOTE]

How much u need in ur roll for a shot on plo100, and how many buyins will you set aside for the shot?
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12-17-2012 , 10:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tobjoern
5.6k hands on month, 8.5 buyins until I take another PLO100 shot.
How much u need in ur roll for a shot on plo100, and how many buyins will you set aside for the shot?[/QUOTE]

Roll is around 25k, so I could play PLO100 comfortably.. However, my BR strategy will let me take another shot once I win 20BIs at PLO50. Right now I've won 5, so 15 to go. Then I take a 10BI shot at PLO100.

Yesterday there was a decent chance I would shot take soon.. but today I played pretty bad, ran into ****ttty spots, and lost big.

Ran bad EV and situationally, but frustrated, made sub-par triple barrels vs fish. The calls the fish were making were absolutely hilarious, though... sigh.

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12-19-2012 , 02:59 AM
Played 3 long sessions today. Played well aside from ~100hand stretch at the end of the second session where I spewed off 2 stacks on blocker bluffs vs unknowns.. Certainly a leak of mine is fighting for potsvs unknowns with blockers..

Yeah, pretty bad. Need to stop running huge bluffs vs unknowns.

I've managed to get my 3b % up to 6.5%, and my fold 2 3bet down to 60%... Still some improvements needed, obv. Playing 28/20/6.5 so far this month. cbet is a bit too high @ 80%.

Graph from today is pretty gross...

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12-19-2012 , 10:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tmckendry
...
I've managed to get my 3b % up to 6.5% ...
stop being such a nit imo

i'm currently at 10+ and increasing. i actually got 4b with AKQ6ds by a reg "for value" as he put it, felt good
Crushing PLO (PLO5-->PLO200) Quote
12-19-2012 , 01:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alienatu
stop being such a nit imo

i'm currently at 10+ and increasing. i actually got 4b with AKQ6ds by a reg "for value" as he put it, felt good
:O !

Damn son.

Yeah. I am a nit by default, so getting up to 7% this month is first priority.. 10%+ is turning pretty laggy imo

Although, I have started 4betting lightish. 4bet is 10%.. lol
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12-19-2012 , 02:53 PM
10% on what sample ? because that's definetly very big )))

and also, lag is much more fun :P
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12-19-2012 , 10:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alienatu
10% on what sample ? because that's definetly very big )))

and also, lag is much more fun :P
Sample is this month, 9k hands. Yes, LAG is more fun I'm sure.

Al-righty. I am in desperate need of some review. I'm getting crushed this month-- and Its not entirely because of variance. I knew that a "down-swing" was inevitable.. so here it is. Sadly, I'm handling it horribly.

I was +$1200 earlier this month, now I'm -$500, for a grandswang of $1700 (mostly at PLO50). It doesn't help that I'm almost $1,000 under all-in EV on the month, but I know this isn't the biggest problem. The problem is my B-game play when I'm losing.

I'm losing confidence in my decisions, and getting frustrated when I make the correct play and lose. I find myself stabbing when I shouldn't, and barreling off in bad spots.

I'm going to take 1k hands of my volume target for today and focus on reviewing big pots played over the last few sessions. This is going to be a ~2hour analysis and will result in a wall of text. Any feedback is awesome..

Hand 1;

Both players are fish. btn is a bit aggro postflop..


PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (CO): $126.49
BTN: $42.44
SB: $65.65
BB: $159.16
UTG: $50.00
MP: $63.39

SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has T Q 8 A

fold, MP calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.00, BTN calls $2.00, fold, fold, MP calls $1.50

Flop: ($6.75, 3 players) Q 6 9
MP checks, Hero bets $5.00, BTN calls $5.00, fold

Turn: ($16.75, 2 players) 3
Hero bets $10.50, BTN calls $10.50

River: ($37.75, 2 players) Q
Hero bets $25.00, BTN calls $24.94 and is all-in

Spoiler:
Hero shows T Q 8 A (Three of a Kind, Queens) (Pre 60%, Flop 63%, Turn 50%)
BTN shows 2 2 Q 6 (Full House, Queens full of Sixes) (Pre 40%, Flop 37%, Turn 50%)
BTN wins $85.13


Both players are fish. btn is a bit aggro postflop, has 4/5 fold to cbet so far..

Wasn't sure if I should cbet in this spot or not. I think its okay. I often have the best hand, and I can bet for value/protection. If I get c/r'ed I'm not folding away much equity.

The turn is a blank, I probably still have the best hand, and now I have no idea what to do... I bet an amount that I thought would fold out pair+straight draws, maybe btm two pair. Against a looser more passive player I think its best..

No idea what to do on various rivers here. I think jam a non heart queen, ace, or 7. c/f 5,6,8,9,t,j, c/c 2, 3, 4..

Hand 2:

This hand was played like ****. Villain is 80/20, pretty passive postflop.

PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $50.00
Hero (BB): $50.00
UTG: $52.28
MP: $53.35
CO: $50.00
BTN: $35.17

SB posts SB $0.25, Hero posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has A Q 2 A

fold, MP raises to $1.50, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $4.75, MP calls $3.25

Flop: ($9.75, 2 players) Q T 2
Hero bets $8.00, MP raises to $33.31, Hero raises to $45.25 and is all-in, MP calls $11.94

Turn: ($100.25, 2 players) 3

River: ($100.25, 2 players) 7

Spoiler:
Hero shows A Q 2 A (Two Pair, Queens and Twos) (Pre 78%, Flop 20%, Turn 10%)
MP shows J 2 J 2 (Three of a Kind, Twos) (Pre 22%, Flop 80%, Turn 90%)
MP wins $97.75


My equity on this flop is <30%, needed ~37% to call, super easy fold.

Hand 3:

This is vs a player that is 47/27/21 and 2/4 4bet over 50 hands.

PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: $109.95
MP: $47.75
Hero (CO): $53.52
BTN: $15.00
SB: $50.00
BB: $97.50

SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has J A K K

UTG raises to $1.75, fold, Hero raises to $6.00, fold, fold, fold, UTG raises to $18.75, Hero calls $12.75

Flop: ($38.25, 2 players) A Q 3
UTG bets $24.50, Hero raises to $34.77 and is all-in, UTG calls $10.27

Turn: ($107.79, 2 players) 7

River: ($107.79, 2 players) K

Spoiler:
UTG shows Q 2 T 3 (Two Pair, Queens and Threes) (Pre 35%, Flop 57%, Turn 68%)
Hero shows J A K K (Three of a Kind, Kings) (Pre 65%, Flop 43%, Turn 33%)
Hero wins $105.29


I think my play preflop was bad. I should just 5bet jam given the info I have about villain.

Hand 4:

Villain is 58/25/12 over 250 hands, ABC post flop.

PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $79.93
Hero (BB): $50.00
UTG: $50.00
CO: $90.16
BTN: $69.59

SB posts SB $0.25, Hero posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has K K T J

fold, CO calls $0.50, fold, SB raises to $2.00, Hero raises to $6.50, fold, SB calls $4.50

Flop: ($13.50, 2 players) 4 8 3
SB checks, Hero bets $9.25, SB raises to $40.64, Hero raises to $43.50 and is all-in, SB calls $2.86

Turn: ($100.50, 2 players) Q

River: ($100.50, 2 players) 7

Spoiler:
SB shows 9 3 8 Q (Two Pair, Queens and Eights) (Pre 37%, Flop 71%, Turn 80%)
Hero mucks K K T J (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 63%, Flop 29%, Turn 20%)
SB wins $98.00


I think vs a player that isn't aggro post-flop and capable of c/r;ing 8*** here I have to fold to the c/r. I also don't like my sizing. Given my sizing he is either going to c/r a pair+draw, 2pair, or set, or fold his 99-QQ and air. I think $7 would be better on this flop texture.

Pokertrack keeps freezing, I had another hand where I had JJA7 on a QJ6ss flop, and faced a raise from a passive player. Should have mucked, but stacked off. Had ~30%(+-5%) vs a passive players raising range.

Few other sub-par spews over the past few days... Bleh. Gotta stop getting it in light OTF.
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12-20-2012 , 02:23 AM
very cool thread, subscribed and following. good luck
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12-20-2012 , 09:05 AM
hand1: seems ok. i don't mind a c/shove turn also.
hand2: i'd bet smaller otf (~6ish) and obv fold to raise
hand3: yeah, 5b jam
hand4: same like hand2, bet smaller and fold to raise. especially since you say he's ABC
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12-20-2012 , 08:20 PM
Sucks to hear about the downswing dude. Sounds like its time for a 2 week break from online poker and to meet me in vancouver to grind live plo. Are you going to be back home over xmas?
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12-20-2012 , 11:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Acesfullofgarbage
very cool thread, subscribed and following. good luck
Thank you sir! These days it does feel like I could use some luck.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alienatu
hand1: seems ok. i don't mind a c/shove turn also.
hand2: i'd bet smaller otf (~6ish) and obv fold to raise
hand3: yeah, 5b jam
hand4: same like hand2, bet smaller and fold to raise. especially since you say he's ABC
Yeah, agreeed except for hand 2.. villain is passive and loose. best method to exploit is by charging the max for draws. but yeah, fold to raise.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mojojo16
Sucks to hear about the downswing dude. Sounds like its time for a 2 week break from online poker and to meet me in vancouver to grind live plo. Are you going to be back home over xmas?
Your going for 2 weeks? I'm planning on going Dec26-30. What are you planning for accommodation? Throw me a msg on fb. That said, staying here for xmas.


Bombed mountains for a few hours today, napped, then grinded a pretty long session. Played my A- game.

A few of the bigger pots that were interesting;

Hand 1:

villain is loose aggro. I don't think he has any air in his range when he raises the flop.

PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $119.77
Hero (SB): $50.00
BB: $50.00
UTG: $224.38
MP: $105.00
CO: $96.46

Hero posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has 6 5 5 6

UTG raises to $1.75, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $1.50, fold

Flop: ($4.00, 2 players) K 8 6
Hero bets $3.00, UTG raises to $7.00, Hero calls $4.00

Turn: ($18.00, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, UTG bets $17.19, Hero raises to $41.25 and is all-in, UTG calls $24.06

River: ($100.50, 2 players) J

Spoiler:
Hero shows 6 5 5 6 (Three of a Kind, Sixes) (Pre 48%, Flop 62%, Turn 75%)
UTG shows A 9 Q T (High Card, Ace) (Pre 52%, Flop 38%, Turn 25%)
Hero wins $98.00


Hand 2:

Villain is a maniac.

PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $83.52
SB: $80.51
Hero (BB): $50.00
UTG: $120.80
CO: $50.00

SB posts SB $0.25, Hero posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has 8 A K J

fold, fold, BTN raises to $1.75, fold, Hero calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.75, 2 players) A 8 5
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.00, Hero raises to $8.50, BTN calls $6.50

Turn: ($20.75, 2 players) 2
Hero bets $15.50, BTN calls $15.50

River: ($51.75, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, BTN bets $49.42, Hero calls $24.25 and is all-in

Spoiler:
BTN shows 4 T Q 5 (One Pair, Fives) (Pre 45%, Flop 15%, Turn 10%)
Hero shows 8 A K J (Two Pair, Aces and Eights) (Pre 55%, Flop 85%, Turn 90%)
Hero wins $97.75


Liked my play here.

Hand 3:

BB has a 25% 3bet from the blinds.

PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: $50.00
UTG: $185.51
CO: $101.71
BTN: $51.50
Hero (SB): $50.00

Hero posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has A T J K

fold, CO raises to $1.75, fold, Hero calls $1.50, BB raises to $7.00, CO calls $5.25, Hero raises to $28.00, BB calls $21.00, CO calls $21.00

Flop: ($84.00, 3 players) 2 7 8
Hero bets $22.00 and is all-in, BB calls $22.00 and is all-in, CO calls $22.00

Turn: ($150.00, 3 players) Q

River: ($150.00, 3 players) T

Spoiler:
Hero shows A T J K (One Pair, Tens) (Pre 45%, Flop 15%, Turn 8%)
BB shows 4 7 6 8 (Flush, Queen High) (Pre 24%, Flop 20%, Turn 32%)
CO shows 8 7 7 6 (Three of a Kind, Sevens) (Pre 31%, Flop 64%, Turn 60%)
BB wins $147.50


Wasn't sure if back raising or flatting was best pre.. I liked backraising because I thought some % I win the pot, and I'm ahead of both villains ranges. I also take away any positional disadvantage I have post-flop. The downside is that my equity is ~30% if I face a 5bet.

Hand 4:

Butchered this hand. Should 4bet preflop. Villain is raising about 25% and will flat everything except AA** to my 4bet.

In game I was thinking I didn't want my hand face up oop with 200bb.. but I think this stack depth It's still okay to 4bet. Any time I can 4bet and get the SPR<3 with dry KK/AA, I should.

PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $37.19
BTN: $160.54
SB: $50.00
BB: $76.70
UTG: $106.53
Hero (MP): $96.10

SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has 4 8 K K

fold, Hero raises to $1.50, fold, BTN raises to $5.25, fold, fold, Hero calls $3.75

Flop: ($11.25, 2 players) J 2 9
Hero checks, BTN bets $8.50, Hero raises to $28.00, BTN calls $19.50

Turn: ($67.25, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($67.25, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, BTN checks

Spoiler:
Hero shows 4 8 K K (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 60%, Flop 71%, Turn 70%)
BTN shows 6 Q K 5 (Two Pair, Queens and Sixes) (Pre 40%, Flop 29%, Turn 30%)
BTN wins $64.75


Love his call on the flop.. T/J/Q were the only cards I was giving up on OTT.
Crushing PLO (PLO5--&gt;PLO200) Quote
12-21-2012 , 09:30 PM
Between skiing and partying, I've been slacking on the pokers this last week. It's been dumping snow and the mountain conditions have been stellllar. Fortunately for me, this is the christmas vacation week coming up and the slopes will be swamped. For the rest of the month I'm going to cut down on skiing, and drink less when I party.

Found a 60% RB deal at iPoker, will try grinding with the iNits. Getting ~15% RB on stars is crushing my income. My roomie has highly recommending grinding on lock, but I can't run that **** on my mac. Pretty frustrating.

Going to fire up a stars session.
Crushing PLO (PLO5--&gt;PLO200) Quote
12-22-2012 , 03:54 PM
Played 7 hours last night. Games were so good. Average vpip in 50-55% range. I tightened up my bluffing range, and started 3betting and 4betting value hands with impunity. Managed to donate a few BIs to the fish.

Still made a few stupid turn bluffs with little equity, but played pretty good. I'd say overall played my B game, but was playing well for a few hours. Kept playing because I was sure my B game was still profitable at the fishy games.

Graph;(


Crushing PLO (PLO5--&gt;PLO200) Quote
12-23-2012 , 12:26 AM
Saw a massive whale at PLO400, took a shot...
PokerStars - $4 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: $361.23
Hero (MP): $422.29
CO: $418.24
BTN: $2,337.14
SB: $787.97
BB: $229.63

SB posts SB $2.00, BB posts BB $4.00

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero has 5 A J J

UTG calls $4.00, Hero raises to $16.00, fold, BTN raises to $58.00, fold, fold, UTG calls $54.00, Hero calls $42.00

Flop: ($180.00, 3 players) A 5 9
UTG checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $177.20, UTG calls $177.20, Hero raises to $364.29 and is all-in, BTN raises to $551.38, UTG calls $126.03 and is all-in

Turn: ($1211.81, 3 players) 6

River: ($1211.81, 3 players) 9

Spoiler:
Hero shows 5 A J J (Two Pair, Aces and Nines) (Pre 34%, Flop 68%, Turn 81%)
BTN shows A 2 J K (Two Pair, Aces and Nines) (Pre 31%, Flop 18%, Turn 8%)
UTG shows 2 T 9 6 (Full House, Nines full of Sixes) (Pre 36%, Flop 14%, Turn 11%)
UTG wins $1,086.89
BTN wins $122.12

PokerStars - $4 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP: $1,086.44
Hero (CO): $400.00
BTN: $400.00
SB: $1,881.78
BB: $785.97
UTG: $384.02

SB posts SB $2.00, BB posts BB $4.00

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero has Q 2 9 T

fold, MP calls $4.00, Hero raises to $16.00, fold, SB calls $14.00, fold, MP calls $12.00

Flop: ($52.00, 3 players) T 2 A
SB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $38.00, fold, MP calls $38.00

Turn: ($128.00, 2 players) 6
MP checks, Hero bets $96.00, MP calls $96.00

River: ($320.00, 2 players) 7
MP checks, Hero checks

Spoiler:
MP shows 8 7 J 7 (Three of a Kind, Sevens) (Pre 54%, Flop 43%, Turn 30%)
Hero mucks Q 2 9 T (Two Pair, Tens and Twos) (Pre 46%, Flop 57%, Turn 70%)
MP wins $317.20


Played a solid 32 hands, then he left. Shot take fail.
Crushing PLO (PLO5--&gt;PLO200) Quote
12-23-2012 , 06:10 AM
Frustration is really setting in. I'm def playing worse as I keep losing money, but still playing alright. This is my graph from today;



So, running pretty ****ty obv..

This is how I'm running in 3bet or 4bet pots this month;

Crushing PLO (PLO5--&gt;PLO200) Quote
12-23-2012 , 06:33 AM
Full giraffe since the start of thread?

GL OP
Crushing PLO (PLO5--&gt;PLO200) Quote
12-23-2012 , 06:44 AM
subbed and following. GL
Crushing PLO (PLO5--&gt;PLO200) Quote
12-23-2012 , 07:07 AM
Not winning those 68% hands 3ways sucks

Kepp at it mate, youve made epic progress. You know what you signed up for, you can do it. Nuff said.
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