had another pretty crazy session playing without my cards. I would only check if someone would put me in a position where I had to make a big call etc, but for the most part I was just barreling and trying to put them on a range. It's amazing how confident and kind of silly it can get when you're just constantly raising and 3 betting without looking at what you have. You can literally play like you have the nuts every hand because, who knows maybe you do have it lol. I opened a 25nl game and after like 300 hands or so ended up with like vp 50, pfr 43, 3b 35%. 35% 3bet ffs. Like playing big pot after big pot and cbetting constantly really puts pressure on people and so I doubled up from just stolen pots, barely had a hand the entire game (I could have, but didn't know). Anyway I think this is one of the many things to really use and practice to bring my game to the next level, try it out sometime. It's a really swingy play style and mentally draining, but worth it.
This is also on a second account by the way so not counting it on my main roll.

Still on vacation for a bit. I got an offer for a job out here so I might be packing things up and moving. I'll be taking my bankroll out and redepositing on another site. Not sure if I wanna go for acr or bovada yet. Let me know your suggestions.

Check out bovada. At least download it and watch some of the games. Have you played on bovada yet? They have a nice deposit bonus. But seriously, sit in on some of those games and just watch them. They look so good. I have not put money online yet but watching those games was a huge part of getting me back into wanting to play again.

You seem to be pretty focused on BB/100 but at the end of the day shouldnt it be more on $/hour? Like if your BB/100 drops due to playing 4 tables but your $/hour goes up, then its worth it? No?

YES! ACR has some great rakeback and promo deals, but the play on bovada is crazy soft. I also heard that acr is mostly regs so definitely will be part of my consideration if I decide to deposit the roll there. What I like about bovada too is that I can see the cards after 24 hours so I'll know for sure if my reads are correct. Even though I won't have the deep hand history of player names, I'll be able to know if I'm right in most situations.

Well I get what you mean, but hourly would make more sense to concentrate on IF my game was at the best it could be and I'm just grinding for rent. In my situation right now, the money isn't a necessity and so I'd rather focus on improving my game rather than making money. I think in general with more tables there's a lot less to learn because you're just overloading yourself with some common spots and just making mistakes because of lack of attention.

Since your style is one table playing for rake back is probably not your style.

alright so deposited on bovada and yeah... The tables are pretty soft for the most part lol. I just deposited the $525 I had on my nj party poker account into bov and already up a bit. I'm going to try and get my hm2 graph figured out to work with this. I wanna start fresh graph wise, but $525 already counts towards the 10k goal. The thing is I had an account with bovada before so my hm2 is still showing the graph for that point in time. Maybe I'll just delete those hands??

So been running pretty cold on bov last 1k hands. Just not really hitting anything and most of the players are pretty stationy so bluffing isn't really as effective even though I'm still constantly ranging. Feel like I'm playing pretty well, just a lot of the hands are giving bad run outs. Running below ev, but oh well.



BR $525

This is all on bovada by the way, but I'm using the card catcher to show stats in my hm2, enjoy. Figured villain's drawing range had missed and would need to bluff otr to win, i wouldn't get value out of jx or his draw range so xc otr is best...

Ok so.... I'm really happy with myself. Since I'm on bovada now, I CAN SEE THE HOLE CARDS THE OTHER GUYS HAD IN PREVIOUS HANDS. And I've been right every single time. I wasn't sure because it felt like I was just being outplayed in a lot of spots, but for the most part was just running bad and they'd just river me etc. It's really reassuring that my decisions have been correct (for the past 1k hands at least) and that my game has really stepped up. I'll post some examples of some that I've looked over soon.

So I've been doing some of the zone (fast fold) 25nl games on Bovada and really starting to do well. Still running a bit under ev and got suckered out on a few times AI, but still ahead. I can't really post the graph until a few days later because the HH takes a few days to become downloadable and card catcher doesn't catch zone games.

BR: $558 (after up and down past few days)

Sweet.
I knew you would like Bovada.
Are you using the ace solutions software?
I am going to get card catcher and the converter.
But when you play zone and analyze the hands later does it show up in holdem manager as a player pool?
Hard to explain...
Say you play 10 zone sessions. Does the stats accumulate for the players.
So you can analyse players as a pool of players?
Does that make sense?
I am assuming you are using the converter...

Yeah I'm using the hh converter by them along with the card catcher together. The stats given are just by position instead of players so yes, its as if you're studying everyone together and their stats for UTG etc. I'm really considering doing zone only instead of the regular 6max cash tables. What's interesting about Bovada is that the tables are anonymous so it's actually impossible to be exploited with a hand sample. Like if I was on stars playing this, I'd probobly have several hands on someone and know that they fold the bb X % of the time so I should be raising the button Y %. On bovada however there is no track record and so each hand you're a clean slate. The only thing they would be able to recognize is your stack size.

so still trying to get things setup so I can continue posting my graph. Only problem is for some reason I think hm2 isn't recognizing the bovada zone poker hands. I have around 3k+ hands already and the the sessions by day is even showing those hands. The graph itself however is only showing like 1.4k hands which is weird. If anyone knows the fix or has an idea pls let me know

There is a really good support thread for the converter.
Let me know what it was after you figure it out.

Yeah so I've been reading up on the problem and I think it's just something that's fixed in later versions of hm2. Unfortunately to run it so I can see the holecards that bovada gives out in the HH I had to download an earlier version of hm2... Instead of a graph, I'll just post the profit by stake I guess.

Ok derp, so figured it out. All I had to do was reconvert the hands in the bovada HH converter and uncheck the zone hands to be zoom hands. Once I did that all hands turned up fine.

nbd, just chillin 267/550 bb deep

#flex

So about to start doing something I should've been from the very start. GOING THROUGH EVERY SINGLE ****ING HAND IN MY HH. Playing zone I've got like 9k+ hands to deal with (yes pots where I'm not included also). It's going to bring my game to the next level, but omfg this is going to take forever. Trying to play 5+ hours a day then study ughhhhhhhh.

How are you doing at zone?
Are you still really liking it?
Do you analyze the players as a pool or
do you try to play a GTO game?
Zone sounds fun.

What kind of stats do you get for the player pool?
Anything interesting? How often players fold to steal, or what is the avg vpip/pr
Or anything that stands out to you?
Do you fast fold your blinds?
Sorry. That's to many questions. You can just ignore me.

Honestly it's a tougher format. Everyone plays a lot nittier post flop if that makes sense. Like they make a lot of correct folds that you wouldn't get from a regular soft 25nl game. I just use population reads and tendencies to make most of my calls/folds, on occasion I'll bluffcatch, but only if the line really doesn't make sense. Not really into gto poker. In the blinds I generally wait until someone raises before i hit fold, I try to play 3bet or fold though for the most part in the blinds and try to stay away from playing oop as much as possible. Np, happy to talk strategy

so it's going to take a few days to get the HH. I was struggling for a really long time on a break even stretch, but finally broke through. I'll post the graph when Bov gives me the HH

BR: $727

You will be sticking with zone instead of regular tables?
You get to play quite a bit of hands.
It will be interesting to see how you do after 100k hands or so.
Good luck
You can probably get to 100k hands by a month or so playing zone.

I'll have to see, I'm still not really sure. One of the problems with zone on bovada is that I can't use a hud since the players are constantly changing and it's all anonymous. So I'd be getting better at population reads and playing spots vs avg opponents, but not outplaying specific opponents based on hh. Also I think the edge in zone is a lot less than regular tables, still somewhat fishy, but less fishy since people are willing to just fold and get put into another hand where they can get it in better. Only problem I think I'll have going back though is getting less hands, it'll be pretty brutal

Dear god... Live is so ****ing soft. I'm still somewhat on vacation (from my vacation xD) playing some games in Toledo OH. My aunt's husband is a poker dealer and knows all the home games etc so checking them all out with him. It was pretty ridiculous last night though when I was at the casino he works at. Bought in for $200, left with over $1000 at 1-2nl. There were some pretty crazy hands over the course of the night, some were tilting, some were complete lulz. For instance. I was otb with aces, I 3b pre and get called 3 way pot. Flop comes... AAJ 3 ways. x to me turn is a 2, river is a Q. I can't bet out at all because there's like no hands I'm getting called with for value other than like Jx which I'd only get 1 street anyway and I have an ace sooo often. so x to the river, guy bets at me for $25. I tank and hollywood for a bit, push in around $90 (big for a rr, but these guys payoff pretty light and I think I could've actually gotten called if I shoved.) He snaps and shows the straight, then almost flips out when I show him the quads lol.
Another hand tilted me pretty hard for a few rounds though. KK in the sb, everyone limps in for 2. Guy to my left super lag gambler has rr every single complete I made and attacks limps like a maniac for $25 etc, does know I'm playing tight though. So I complete, he makes it $19, we catch 4 callers, I bump it up to $65 or so, he folds, 2 callers (one of these callers is super maniac who had been raising every single hand in the dark and triple barreling with garbage non stop. Probably one of the loosest people I've ever seen). Flop comes ATT 3 handed. First to act I x. I figure if I bet I give them value when they're ahead and allow them to make a correct decision to call or I can x and potentially get them to bet with worse. They x. Turn is a 9. I X, a somewhat short player shoves for like $70, the loose maniac instant calls... My plan immediately after the shortie shoves was call bc I figured if he had Ax or Tx he'd bet it otf so I'm going to be good here a majority of the time, but when the maniac calls I figure I have to be beat right? What can she be calling with that I beat, I mean a 9 potentially, but I was giving them credit since they called my initial 3bet. So I tank.... Then I fold.... and the river is a 5.... The shortie had nothing.... The maniac shows 85o. WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFF ARE YOU CALLING WITH?????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????

Anyway...

I'm considering keeping a live br to play as well since the games are just so damn profitable. I won't consider the live games as part of my online br, but I'll post updates on it as well when I can. Here's my graph for the bovada games, it's been shaky at the start, but made headway in the past several hundred hands. This was mostly playing zone too so I was getting adjusted to the format, still unsure whether or not I want to go back to the regular tables (probably will)



Online roll: $711 (not sure why hm2 is only saying 125 profit bc I bought in for 525 and up about 200 now, eh)
Live roll: $952 (made more in a day live than a month of grinding from $5 in a month lel)

Dear god... So went with a relative to another 1-2 game and cleaned up again for another $400. I spent a little of it buying him dinner and since he drove helped out with gas and other stuff we needed. $1100 profit in like 2 days not bad.

Online roll: $711
Live roll: $1302