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11-10-2018 , 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by WHATSMYNAMEHUH
so do you think that both formats will have roughly the same hourly or overall profit and choosing between zoom and regular is just a matter of preference?
probably, but the last time I played regular tables was years ago on nl5, so cant really give you a valueable answer.

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Originally Posted by and lets see
obviously not, you battle for 1 or 2 bb at zoom
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Originally Posted by and lets see
there is more money in zoom if you're the best player in the world
11-10-2018 , 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by JoseMourinho
probably, but the last time I played regular tables was years ago on nl5, so cant really give you a valueable answer
i see

anyway, enjoying the thread and gl at the tables!
11-10-2018 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by JoseMourinho


I dont think this all see guy really knows what he's talking about haha. prob why he's trolling pg&c on a new account.


For me, one major reason why stars reg tables are -ev relative to zoom or other sites are table scripts. Very little point in trying to play them regularly without one. Stars is falling behind the curve in sorting that issue out
11-10-2018 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueCollarPoker
I dont think this all see guy really knows what he's talking about haha. prob why he's trolling pg&c on a new account.


For me, one major reason why stars reg tables are -ev relative to zoom or other sites are table scripts. Very little point in trying to play them regularly without one. Stars is falling behind the curve in sorting that issue out
"and lets see" is tastyy's 100th account, just ignore him.

And yeah agree about scripts, but not sure what it looks like at lower stakes.

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Originally Posted by WHATSMYNAMEHUH
anyway, enjoying the thread and gl at the tables!
ty!

Last edited by JoseMourinho; 11-10-2018 at 12:20 PM.
11-10-2018 , 02:25 PM
The scripting is terrible. Even at 100nl on stars, when a fish sits the table insta-fills. Pretty annoying. Most people insta-quit when the rec leaves too.

by the way, it's really cool to see someone from brazil crushing so hard. keep it up!
11-10-2018 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
The scripting is terrible. Even at 100nl on stars, when a fish sits the table insta-fills. Pretty annoying. Most people insta-quit when the rec leaves too.

by the way, it's really cool to see someone from brazil crushing so hard. keep it up!
I got seat scripted at 5nl reg tables on stars
11-10-2018 , 05:45 PM
Hello, forgive me the indiscreet question. how much is your hourly rate at the NL200 zoom?

thanks
11-10-2018 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueCollarPoker
For me, one major reason why stars reg tables are -ev relative to zoom or other sites are table scripts. Very little point in trying to play them regularly without one. Stars is falling behind the curve in sorting that issue out
for lower and micro stakes—where there is always good games going on and plenty of tables running, do you think not using table scripts is still -ev?
11-11-2018 , 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by WHATSMYNAMEHUH
for lower and micro stakes—where there is always good games going on and plenty of tables running, do you think not using table scripts is still -ev?
honestly with how many tables run, it would be hard to manage table selecting without at least table scan turbo (which is a fine piece of software imo) but a script would be very helpful as well.

With so many tables to choose from, you need to table select or youll end up playing on bad tables too often and having a lower winrate because of it, so players table selecting with software have a huge advantage. Try waitlisting 20 tables and see how fast you get sick of it as you join and leave and re waitlist constantly. If you dont table select, just play zoom.

getting a good seat vs a fish who sits an empty table is not too common and most of the time its just a reg whos sitting anyway. Sure its a nice bonus for the scripter, but it looks real bad to non regs when they see tables insta fill. Stars needs to create a seating method that encourages new tables to begin to help reduce waitlists and negate the need for scripts. They tried tablestarters and it more or less failed, but it was one idea like 2 years ago and then they gave up.

Last edited by Viktor Hovland; 11-11-2018 at 10:58 AM.
11-11-2018 , 11:01 AM
^makes a lot of sense

thanks for the valuable response
11-11-2018 , 11:18 AM
Nice thread mate! Awesome to see a Brazilian reg crushing it

Vamoooooo
11-11-2018 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueCollarPoker
honestly with how many tables run, it would be hard to manage table selecting without at least table scan turbo (which is a fine piece of software imo) but a script would be very helpful as well.

With so many tables to choose from, you need to table select or youll end up playing on bad tables too often and having a lower winrate because of it, so players table selecting with software have a huge advantage. Try waitlisting 20 tables and see how fast you get sick of it as you join and leave and re waitlist constantly. If you dont table select, just play zoom.

getting a good seat vs a fish who sits an empty table is not too common and most of the time its just a reg whos sitting anyway. Sure its a nice bonus for the scripter, but it looks real bad to non regs when they see tables insta fill. Stars needs to create a seating method that encourages new tables to begin to help reduce waitlists and negate the need for scripts. They tried tablestarters and it more or less failed, but it was one idea like 2 years ago and then they gave up.
while this is all true, the bad regular tables are still higher ev than zoom imo
11-11-2018 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by WHATSMYNAMEHUH
for lower and micro stakes—where there is always good games going on and plenty of tables running, do you think not using table scripts is still -ev?
-EV and less EV are very different things!
11-11-2018 , 12:37 PM
Man, I need to ask a mod to rename the thread to "NOT BRAZILIAN reg playing 200z". You guys are dicks

Nice answers about scripts/regular tables situation - more so because I have no experience there and wouldnt provide any meaningful answer.

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Month so far:



Updating, because I'll take a break the next two days.

Slowly getting back to my usual playstyle and daily rhytm, which is cool. Studying is going alright, joined a 200z study group which looks very promising so far and hopefully will push me to work even harder.

Biggest hands from today:

1) vs good reg

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: $85.15 (42.6 bb)
    Hero (BB): $202 (101 bb)
    UTG: $294.95 (147.5 bb)
    MP: $200 (100 bb)
    CO: $197 (98.5 bb)
    BTN: $542.60 (271.3 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with Q 2
    3 folds, BTN raises to $4.59, SB folds, Hero calls $2.59

    Flop: ($10.18) J 2 2 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $2.69, Hero raises to $10, BTN calls $7.31

    Turn: ($30.18) T (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $18.92, Hero raises to $64.81, BTN raises to $528.01 and is all-in, Hero calls $122.60 and is all-in

    River: ($405) 4 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: $405 pot ($2.75 rake)
    Final Board: J 2 2 T 4
    Hero showed Q 2 and won $402.25 ($200.25 net)
    BTN showed A K and lost (-$202 net)


    2) not sure about this one, will check it out later

      Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: $232.85 (116.4 bb)
      Hero (BB): $288.74 (144.4 bb)
      UTG: $105.86 (52.9 bb)
      MP: $389.93 (195 bb)
      CO: $186.90 (93.5 bb)
      BTN: $844.85 (422.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with A J
      3 folds, BTN raises to $4.46, SB folds, Hero raises to $21, BTN calls $16.54

      Flop: ($43) 7 4 J (2 players)
      Hero bets $12.26, BTN calls $12.26

      Turn: ($67.52) 3 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN checks

      River: ($67.52) A (2 players)
      Hero bets $82.91, BTN raises to $389.59, Hero calls $172.57 and is all-in

      Spoiler:
      Results: $578.48 pot ($2.75 rake)
      Final Board: 7 4 J 3 A
      Hero showed A J and lost (-$288.74 net)
      BTN showed 5 6 and won $575.73 ($286.99 net)


      3) vs 500z crusher

        Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

        SB: $332.69 (166.3 bb)
        BB: $204 (102 bb)
        UTG: $200 (100 bb)
        MP: $440.96 (220.5 bb)
        CO: $356.31 (178.2 bb)
        Hero (BTN): $809.91 (405 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BTN with J K
        UTG folds, MP raises to $4, CO folds, Hero raises to $16, 2 folds, MP calls $12

        Flop: ($35) T 3 A (2 players)
        MP checks, Hero bets $9.98, MP calls $9.98

        Turn: ($54.96) 7 (2 players)
        MP checks, Hero bets $40, MP calls $40

        River: ($134.96) J (2 players)
        MP checks, Hero bets $169.23, MP folds

        Spoiler:
        Results: $134.96 pot ($2.75 rake)
        Final Board: T 3 A 7 J
        MP mucked and lost (-$65.98 net)
        Hero mucked J K and won $132.21 ($66.23 net)


        4) vs reg, oops

          Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

          SB: $201 (100.5 bb)
          Hero (BB): $211.17 (105.6 bb)
          MP: $194.72 (97.4 bb)
          CO: $138.82 (69.4 bb)
          BTN: $227.90 (114 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BB with 5 A
          2 folds, BTN raises to $5, SB folds, Hero calls $3

          Flop: ($11) 6 5 6 (2 players)
          Hero checks, BTN bets $3.45, Hero calls $3.45

          Turn: ($17.90) Q (2 players)
          Hero checks, BTN bets $12.24, Hero calls $12.24

          River: ($42.38) 2 (2 players)
          Hero checks, BTN bets $55, Hero calls $55

          Spoiler:
          Results: $152.38 pot ($2.75 rake)
          Final Board: 6 5 6 Q 2
          Hero mucked 5 A and lost (-$75.69 net)
          BTN showed Q K and won $149.63 ($73.94 net)
          11-11-2018 , 06:26 PM
          Nice start to the month man, what do you think about his turn jam with AK in hand 1?
          11-11-2018 , 06:37 PM
          Hand 3, was it bluff and you think he folded an A, KK or QQ or was it value vs worse J and Tx?

          I mean I would probably check back since I think I have some show down value... what am I missing?
          11-11-2018 , 06:42 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by stlows
          Hand 3, was it bluff and you think he folded an A, KK or QQ or was it value vs worse J and Tx?

          I mean I would probably check back since I think I have some show down value... what am I missing?
          Definitely bluffing. he never wins at showdown and doesn't have many bluffs on this runout
          11-11-2018 , 07:10 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by tgiggity
          Definitely bluffing. he never wins at showdown and doesn't have many bluffs on this runout
          Never is a prob a bit of a stretch. Villain still has quite a few ThXh combos and prob other combos we beat.
          11-11-2018 , 07:15 PM
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          Originally Posted by JedMosely
          Never is a prob a bit of a stretch. Villain still has quite a few ThXh combos and prob other combos we beat.
          V could have 3 ThXh combos we beat, but other than that we're beat. Maybe QJhh also
          11-11-2018 , 07:18 PM
          The question is what better bluffs do we have? Looks like wp very cool hand (jam river though )
          11-11-2018 , 07:31 PM
          Ye i agree, I think its wp. Just wanted to point out that we do win sometimes at SD
          11-12-2018 , 12:25 AM
          Subbing gl
          11-12-2018 , 01:54 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by Ch@0tic
          Nice start to the month man, what do you think about his turn jam with AK in hand 1?
          Thanks. Looks like an absolute spew to me, but maybe Im missing something

          Quote:
          Originally Posted by stlows
          Hand 3, was it bluff and you think he folded an A, KK or QQ or was it value vs worse J and Tx?

          I mean I would probably check back since I think I have some show down value... what am I missing?
          It was a bluff sir

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          Originally Posted by deathorglory0
          The question is what better bluffs do we have? Looks like wp very cool hand (jam river though )
          Yeah I agree, should have definitely jammed the river

          Quote:
          Originally Posted by Whatalife333
          Subbing gl
          Thanks bro, see you at the tables!



          Can someone tell me how to make multiple quotations on a phone? The way I did it is definitely not gto
          11-12-2018 , 08:35 PM
          In, GL!
          11-12-2018 , 11:51 PM
          this combo of ak seems ok blocking suited a2 and k2 that would be ur primary value. gotta find some bluffs right

                
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