I'm confused at the 4bet with KTs too... I trust that you have a very good reason for it though, so I'm going to attempt to understand what that reason is:
My theory is that you think the CO is 3betting you lighter than he should be. There should be a lot of marginal hands in his 3betting range anyway (like JTs, KJs, ATs, T9s, A5s, etc.), but you suspect, due to a sizing tell, that his 3betting range is even wider than that, and might include hands as light as 76s, A6s, 97s, 44, etc.
So you're actually 4betting for value here; not as a bluff. You know that there are plenty of hands in his range that are worse than KTs, and you feel confident enough that you will have the best hand most of the time on Txx and Kxx flops, despite the fact that it's a 4bet pot.
that is only true when you are in position as the 4bettor, if you're oop you are mixing, yes I do know more than doug polk about pre flop 6max, a good bit more actually, if I did not I would be in trouble
So another thing I've noticed that feels counterintuitive to me: when you're on BTN, you open to $5.12 (2.6bbs), but when you're UTG, you open to $4.22 (2.1bbs).
I would've thought that we would raise bigger from EP and smaller from LP.
Again, I'm sure you have a very good reason for what you do. I'm not criticising your play at all. I'm simply just trying to understand it.
So another thing I've noticed that feels counterintuitive to me: when you're on BTN, you open to $5.12 (2.6bbs), but when you're UTG, you open to $4.22 (2.1bbs).
I would've thought that we would raise bigger from EP and smaller from LP.
Again, I'm sure you have a very good reason for what you do. I'm not criticising your play at all. I'm simply just trying to understand it.
1. When you are in position you want pot to be larger because position gives you extra share of ev in the pot.
2. In tough online environments people play 3bet/fold from most positions so opening smaller you lose less because calling 3bets oop is bad. Also Lets say u open 2x 3bettor has to make it 3.5-4x instead of 2.8-3.2x to decrease your implieds. Since he is now risking 8 to win 3.5 his 3bt bluffs are lower ev than when risking 9 to win 4.5. His value 3bets also dont decrease the spr as much tho this is fairly insignificant because he has position
3. New meta online people defend correctly vs minraise 2.2x etc and might overdefend by calling vs 3betting vs larger sizing so u gain more from playing a bigger pot on the button.
this just my opinion could be better reasons as well.
Actually makes a lot of sense. I was looking at pokersnowie preflop advice and it seems to use a similar opening strategy, and I coudn´t understand exactly why. Thank you sir.
33%-50% is better for that spot with his range that wants to bet, with that sizing he can bet a wider range for thin value, if he has a 75% sizing he will have to balance 2 ranges for each sizing which complicates his game without much EV gain.
Hard to think of any brazilian with that graph, I remember playing a brazilian with "y" as the first letter in his sn, but not sure about the rest.
Im sure barbaar takes your education to his hart.
You are very worng. Also who you think you are? Br 3300?
U suck and i puke when i see you talking down to someone like barbaar.
He is one of few regs of msnl + for decade!
Stfu u stupid brainless gringo
Woke up with a hangover, so decided to take a day off. I dont feel theres a need to force volume when Im not at my mental best (or close to at least).
Gonna study quite a bit instead, been reading "Deep work" (doubt you read this topic meale, but thanks for recommending it anyway) since I woke up, next Im gonna work on optimizing studying with PIO. Back to the tables tomorrow.
Last edited by JoseMourinho; 10-17-2018 at 09:00 AM.
1. When you are in position you want pot to be larger because position gives you extra share of ev in the pot.
2. In tough online environments people play 3bet/fold from most positions so opening smaller you lose less because calling 3bets oop is bad. Also Lets say u open 2x 3bettor has to make it 3.5-4x instead of 2.8-3.2x to decrease your implieds. Since he is now risking 8 to win 3.5 his 3bt bluffs are lower ev than when risking 9 to win 4.5. His value 3bets also dont decrease the spr as much tho this is fairly insignificant because he has position
3. New meta online people defend correctly vs minraise 2.2x etc and might overdefend by calling vs 3betting vs larger sizing so u gain more from playing a bigger pot on the button.
this just my opinion could be better reasons as well.
Results: $145.46 pot ($2.75 rake)
Final Board: K 2 4 3 Q
Hero showed K T and won $142.71 ($70.98 net)
MP showed 9 9 and lost (-$71.73 net)
Wow this looks super GTO. I can see why villain did it: it's hard for him to have any better hands to turn into a bluff, so he picks a pair of 9s, which unblock all the non-heart broadways.
Pretty crazy that you made the hero call here and were correct. Nice work!
Wow this looks super GTO. I can see why villain did it: it's hard for him to have any better hands to turn into a bluff, so he picks a pair of 9s, which unblock all the non-heart broadways.
Pretty crazy that you made the hero call here and were correct. Nice work!
His bluff is definitely good, my call might not be. I just thought he's gonna be fairly unbalanced when using this sizing.
Great day at the tables - played well, ran amazing. All coolers were going my way, kept running into bottom of people's ranges with my bluffs/thin vbets.
Spoiler:
ye, right
Spoiler:
Not much to say, forced some unnecessary aggression in couple of spots, other than that played okayish I feel.
Preflop: Hero is BB with 4 4
2 folds, CO raises to $4.20, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.20
Flop: ($9.40) 4 A 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $2.59, Hero raises to $10, CO raises to $31.69, Hero raises to $53.38, CO raises to $197.04 and is all-in, Hero calls $143.66
Turn: ($403.48) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in) River: ($403.48) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Spoiler:
Results: $403.48 pot ($2.75 rake)
Final Board: 4 A 2 5 9
Hero showed 4 4 and won $400.73 ($199.49 net)
CO showed A T and lost (-$201.24 net)
Other than that mostly coolers, nothing interesting.
Didnt study much yesterday, really disappointed by myself. Gonna go through couple of hands today tho, enough slacking for the week.
Caught some heat today, but not happy with how I played. Made plenty ridiculous mistakes, started talking on Skype/Discord in the end, which is a big ****up.
Hands:
1) two hands vs same guy, 5min into the session and in a span of 1min from eachother
Preflop: Hero is MP with A A
UTG raises to $6, Hero raises to $20, CO folds, BTN calls $20, 2 folds, UTG raises to $83, Hero raises to $158, BTN calls $89.48 and is all-in, UTG raises to $368.65 and is all-in, Hero calls $210.65
Flop: ($849.78) 7 A 2 (3 players, 2 are all-in) Turn: ($849.78) J (3 players, 2 are all-in) River: ($849.78) 6 (3 players, 2 are all-in)
Spoiler:
Results: $849.78 pot ($2.75 rake)
Final Board: 7 A 2 J 6
UTG showed K K and lost (-$368.65 net)
Hero showed A A and won $847.03 ($478.38 net)
BTN showed K K and lost (-$109.48 net)
River: ($79.54) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $166, BB calls $164.73 and is all-in
Spoiler:
Results: $409 pot ($2.75 rake)
Final Board: A K 7 9 Q
BB showed J A and lost (-$204 net)
Hero showed K K and won $406.25 ($202.25 net)
Wont have much time to study today, which is not optimal, but cant do anything about it.
From tomorrow on I think Im gonna start updating the thread once a week, seems a bit of a stretch to do it every day.
A month to forget. Didnt have much time to play because of real life stuff (and obviously being lazy) - there were probably no more than 15-16 days when I could actually grind. This resulted in not only my volume being poor, but it also took toll on the quality of my game (it seems way tougher to stay focused every day when you cant depend on your daily routine).
Either way, hopefuly everything will go back to normal in November and I can reach both volume and study goals this time.
Lost almost 4bi to this guy in less than 15min. Cool stuff:
Impressive volume huh? Today was the first day in over a week when I was actually able to put in a proper session. As usual, after Im back from a break, I play rather poorly and have problems staying focused. As such I decided not to push volume at all (even tho its sunday) and simply quit when the quality of my game slips. Will try to gradually increase the volume on a daily basis.