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06-20-2019 , 06:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kangal_
Nice work dismantling 500z mate. Pretty happy to leave some money on the 200z tables if you can keep that up I imagine.

+1 to terrible game selection also.
Thanks. No way I can keep this up, but at least it gives me a bit of a cushion so I can keep improving before busto. And ye I see you in 500z streets constantly, so definitely no pool selection going on

Quote:
Originally Posted by PlasticElephant
Unbelievable 500z pop off, I watch the lobby pretty hard and have been questioning your game selection too, but no need if you are winning like that
haha I wish it worked like that. How do you like 500 reg tables compared to 500z, because I see you play both on daily basis?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
Nice!
thanks!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeramae
just read the whole thread and i think i figured out OP's sn, starts with "y" and ends with "w"?

would you mind sharing your daily routine and how often do you take breaks?
Im not YEAHtalknow sorry

my daily routine is nothing special and it could use a lot of improving:
wake up
read a book (or do something else just to wake up) for ~1h
shower, browse internet while eating
30min warmup
play 2.5k hands
gym
study
free time

Theoretically I take a break after 1k hands and second one after 800, but you know how it is I always take at least 1 break tho. I try to never play more than 2.5k hands total because my brain is fried and I dont see the point.

Last edited by JoseMourinho; 06-20-2019 at 07:01 AM.
06-20-2019 , 07:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JoseMourinho
Im not YEAHtalknow sorry
can you pm me your sn? bc i have a habit of railing winning regs from 500z - HS (but i still respect if you dont wanna out your sn to strangers)

when you were moving up from 5nlz - 200nlz, were you crushing those stakes or you just took a lot of shots?
06-20-2019 , 10:10 AM
Id rather not share my sn sorry.

I moved up from nl5 to nl100 quite long ago, dont think there are any similarities to today's games. I struggled at nl5/nl10 the most, but beat 25-100 fairly quickly. I was stuck for 2-3 years at 100 winning at 3-5bb, but it was simply because I did almost no study (I remember being coached by PlasticElephant like 2-3 times and it was my whole study for the year ).

Hand of the day against very good reg:

    Poker Stars, $2.50/$5 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: $725.69 (145.1 bb)
    Hero (BB): $502.38 (100.5 bb)
    MP: $1,361.44 (272.3 bb)
    CO: $639.73 (127.9 bb)
    BTN: $517.02 (103.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 9 K
    MP folds, CO raises to $13.05, 2 folds, Hero calls $8.05

    Flop: ($28.60) 2 4 7 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO checks

    Turn: ($28.60) 9 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO checks

    River: ($28.60) K (2 players)
    Hero bets $8.15, CO raises to $41.62, Hero raises to $200, CO raises to $626.68, Hero calls $289.33 and is all-in

    Spoiler:
    Results: $1,007.26 pot ($3.00 rake)
    Final Board: 2 4 7 9 K
    Hero showed 9 K and lost (-$502.38 net)
    CO showed K K and won $1,004.26 ($501.88 net)


    Absolute spew to call it off, the moment people start 4b bluffing rivers at nl500 is when I quit poker (BUT HOW AM I EVER BEAT HERE?)
    06-20-2019 , 11:00 AM
    How many hands/hour do you average? Congrats on results!
    06-20-2019 , 01:13 PM
    Sick results mate!

    You plan on continuing to grind at home in Brazil or are you gonna travel a bit?
    06-20-2019 , 01:17 PM
    think you make it easy for villain to play his range by raising to 200 instead of jamming
    06-20-2019 , 02:05 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MilkMan
    How many hands/hour do you average? Congrats on results!
    around 700 at 200z, no idea about 500z, but its gonna be less
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JedMosely
    Sick results mate!

    You plan on continuing to grind at home in Brazil or are you gonna travel a bit?
    thanks and lmao
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Xenoblade
    think you make it easy for villain to play his range by raising to 200 instead of jamming
    I know jamming is the correct size in theory, but looking at the responses vs both sizings Im not sure jamming is the more difficult one to play against. Its difficult to estimate tho because river ranges will differ so much from PIO's, so it could easily be the case that youre right and jamming is way better.
    06-20-2019 , 02:06 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Xenoblade
    think you make it easy for villain to play his range by raising to 200 instead of jamming
    This, also villain's x back twice shows how 500z regs care so much about protecting their x back ranges. I think it isn't a good play to x back again OTT despite pio doing it at a mixed frequency because I don't see many humans exploiting a weak x twice range properly, and even if some do, that x back will lose EV over stabbing vs the majority of players that aren't doing it.

    Wp on the results.
    06-20-2019 , 10:59 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JoseMourinho
    I moved up from nl5 to nl100 quite long ago, dont think there are any similarities to today's games. I struggled at nl5/nl10 the most, but beat 25-100 fairly quickly. I was stuck for 2-3 years at 100 winning at 3-5bb, but it was simply because I did almost no study (I remember being coached by PlasticElephant like 2-3 times and it was my whole study for the year ).
    if you move up today from nl5-100, would you still take the zoom route or would you table select really hard?
    06-21-2019 , 05:23 AM
    Please dont share my sn in the thread. I dont mind people knowing, I just dont want it actually be mentioned here. Also thanks mods, that was lightning fast!

    Id still go with zoom probably, because its so much more pleasant to play.
    06-21-2019 , 06:06 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JoseMourinho
    Please dont share my sn in the thread. I dont mind people knowing, I just dont want it actually be mentioned here. Also thanks mods, that was lightning fast!
    don't worry, your sn is safe

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JoseMourinho
    Id still go with zoom probably, because its so much more pleasant to play.

    what is the maximum stake do you think where the zoom pool's fish:reg ratio is always good 24/7 (unlike 500z pool where you have to time select)?
    06-21-2019 , 08:55 AM
    at 200z ratio is always good at my playhours, dont know about 24/7 tho
    06-21-2019 , 09:03 AM
    i see, tnx sir!
    06-21-2019 , 01:17 PM
    geez, what time do you play? never saw you at the tables anymore, think the last time was @ 500 but like just once and now you show like 60k hands there haha very cool, sweet graph, congratz!

    plans to the future except ending the blog? gl
    06-21-2019 , 01:51 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by zinhao
    geez, what time do you play? never saw you at the tables anymore, think the last time was @ 500 but like just once and now you show like 60k hands there haha very cool, sweet graph, congratz!

    plans to the future except ending the blog? gl
    Think youre confusing me with someone else, we never played the same hours afair, I literally have like 100 hands on you but fwiw Ive just finished my session and thats my usual grind time

    and thanks! gl to you too

    no plans, just getting comfortable on 500z if possible, maybe taking some shots on 1k nl reg tables
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by iburydoscocaroaches
    Very impressive results. I recommend focusing on volume over moving up in stakes. Your biggest opponent is not the players as its the variance. Your clearly better then the player pool. Moving up to 500z against better players with lower volume= get the whiskey out.
    More volume means lower winrate, so Im happy with playing less. I always put quality over quantity and never force myself to play when I dont feel Im gonna be able to play at least B-game. Thats not to say I couldnt have played more this year, 50-60k hands a month would be ideal.
    06-21-2019 , 03:28 PM
    lol nope, my memory is good we played a lil bit @ 100 on 2017 i guess, but for sure played some this year @ 200. oh ok but this makes sense since i used to play earlier. thanks, gl!
    06-22-2019 , 08:45 AM
    GG, wp Józek.
    06-22-2019 , 03:20 PM
    in for the graph porn and stupid strategy posts 10/10 lets get some memes boi
    06-23-2019 , 12:08 PM
    Ill just leave it here

      Poker Stars, $2.50/$5 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: $1,809.41 (361.9 bb)
      BB: $500 (100 bb)
      MP: $500 (100 bb)
      CO: $529.70 (105.9 bb)
      Hero (BTN): $1,780.73 (356.1 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with K K
      2 folds, Hero raises to $12.50, SB calls $10, BB folds

      Flop: ($30) 7 3 8 (2 players)
      SB bets $5, Hero raises to $35, SB calls $30

      Turn: ($100) 8 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $70, SB calls $70

      River: ($240) K (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $1,663.23 and is all-in, SB calls $1,663.23

      Spoiler:
      Results: $3,566.46 pot ($3 rake)
      Final Board: 7 3 8 8 K
      SB showed 6 6 and lost (-$1,780.73 net)
      Hero showed K K and won $3,563.46 ($1,782.73 net)
      06-23-2019 , 01:52 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by JoseMourinho
      Id rather not share my sn sorry.

      I moved up from nl5 to nl100 quite long ago, dont think there are any similarities to today's games. I struggled at nl5/nl10 the most, but beat 25-100 fairly quickly. I was stuck for 2-3 years at 100 winning at 3-5bb, but it was simply because I did almost no study (I remember being coached by PlasticElephant like 2-3 times and it was my whole study for the year ).

      Hand of the day against very good reg:

        Poker Stars, $2.50/$5 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

        SB: $725.69 (145.1 bb)
        Hero (BB): $502.38 (100.5 bb)
        MP: $1,361.44 (272.3 bb)
        CO: $639.73 (127.9 bb)
        BTN: $517.02 (103.4 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BB with 9 K
        MP folds, CO raises to $13.05, 2 folds, Hero calls $8.05

        Flop: ($28.60) 2 4 7 (2 players)
        Hero checks, CO checks

        Turn: ($28.60) 9 (2 players)
        Hero checks, CO checks

        River: ($28.60) K (2 players)
        Hero bets $8.15, CO raises to $41.62, Hero raises to $200, CO raises to $626.68, Hero calls $289.33 and is all-in

        Spoiler:
        Results: $1,007.26 pot ($3.00 rake)
        Final Board: 2 4 7 9 K
        Hero showed 9 K and lost (-$502.38 net)
        CO showed K K and won $1,004.26 ($501.88 net)


        Absolute spew to call it off, the moment people start 4b bluffing rivers at nl500 is when I quit poker (BUT HOW AM I EVER BEAT HERE?)
        This hand is so ******ed
        Cant you just play bet 1/2 turn and betfold potsize river?
        You are basically hoping he is playing AK/KQ and random bluffs with blockers like this
        Too much leveling is not good for winning

        Last edited by oneselfishguy; 06-23-2019 at 01:57 PM.
        06-23-2019 , 02:01 PM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by JoseMourinho
        Ill just leave it here

          Poker Stars, $2.50/$5 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

          SB: $1,809.41 (361.9 bb)
          BB: $500 (100 bb)
          MP: $500 (100 bb)
          CO: $529.70 (105.9 bb)
          Hero (BTN): $1,780.73 (356.1 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BTN with K K
          2 folds, Hero raises to $12.50, SB calls $10, BB folds

          Flop: ($30) 7 3 8 (2 players)
          SB bets $5, Hero raises to $35, SB calls $30

          Turn: ($100) 8 (2 players)
          SB checks, Hero bets $70, SB calls $70

          River: ($240) K (2 players)
          SB checks, Hero bets $1,663.23 and is all-in, SB calls $1,663.23

          Spoiler:
          Results: $3,566.46 pot ($3 rake)
          Final Board: 7 3 8 8 K
          SB showed 6 6 and lost (-$1,780.73 net)
          Hero showed K K and won $3,563.46 ($1,782.73 net)
          lol
          Maybe some people overbet bluff too much river and this could be winning vs some people, what do I know I just play NL50z currently
          06-23-2019 , 02:04 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by oneselfishguy
          lol
          Maybe some people overbet bluff too much river and this could be winning vs some people, what do I know I just play NL50z currently
          If you play 50z and think this could possibly be a winning call vs any range then you probably shouldn’t be calling too many of OPs lines ******ed.
          06-23-2019 , 02:08 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by Kangal_
          If you play 50z and think this could possibly be a winning call vs any range then you probably shouldn’t be calling too many of OPs lines ******ed.
          please read carefully what I wrote
          it seems like you read only what you want to read and ignore rest
          we all have bad hands, that was a bad hand
          06-23-2019 , 04:33 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by oneselfishguy
          This hand is so ******ed
          Cant you just play bet 1/2 turn and betfold potsize river?
          You are basically hoping he is playing AK/KQ and random bluffs with blockers like this
          Too much leveling is not good for winning
          Thanks for advice, definitely gonna look into leading halfpot + pot/folding nuts against very aggressive good players. Cheers!
          06-23-2019 , 06:23 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by JoseMourinho
          Thanks for advice, definitely gonna look into leading halfpot + pot/folding nuts against very aggressive good players. Cheers!
          sorry if I made a bad comment
          well yeah for sure you have history and its exploitive play by you and also by him, but the way it was played you almost never see a hand played like this( in a way its face-up range by both, not that many bluffs and I not even sure you need to have lines like this to stay " balanced")

                
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