I think you should not gamble, in general, especially in MTTs. Let's say, we play, say HOT $55 on Stars. All the money's up top. To get up top you need to get a top 3 out of 600 = ~ top 1 in 200 run. As a scared money trying to gamble up mincash that is just not likely, at all.

MTTs is about being good, being rolled, playing high volume and actually getting those #1st(s)

You can't be like. Omg, I'm an idiot playing for 1/2 my poker roll, pls let me 2nd mincash. That is just not profitable. 2nd mincash vs how hard it is to get it vs rewards = negative ROI

That sounds quite sound, but you don't think about it (at least not on a level where you act upon it, sure it might cross your back of the thoughts a couple of times), but you don't act upon it, at least when you're on a gambling-addiction / chasing tilt or whatever irrational bs you're hooked on

To not gamble addiction you have to pre-plan and pre-prepare to execute. A gambling addict doesn't think & actually carry out a sensible solution out of blue air, they don't, their mind is hooked on something else. I dunno on what, but they're simply not there to act upon these sensible ideas by default

Outlaw, the only difference between you and 6b is that you have a job. You're both degenerates who will fail at making money at poker because you're gambling addicts. Quit poker (if your addiction actually allows you). You will never ever win or be successful at poker.

I’ve always struggled playing cash. My tourney game has always been stronger.

I need to work in my fundamentals, SNG’s provide me that oppritunity.

We’ll See.

This dude is either 6bets long lost brother, or a troll. smells dodgy to me, but In.

How did you build your bankroll?

Originally, climbed micro cash

Most recently, gambled up. Yet, I don't recommend gambling up, because it's not very sustainable and after you've gotten to starting roll you're less in the zone to maintain it via grinding

I feel like me playing $5 and $10 SNG's, even with my bankroll as low as it is, is far far less of a gamble than for me to sit down at $2NL and try to grind that out, even with 23-30 buy-in's. I want to practice BRM. But I need to be to a level where I am comfortable playing those stakes. So call this early shot taking. Once I have by roll built up some I will stick with BRM. The real question is will I be able to keep building my roll from where I am at currently. Logic says no. But I am trying really hard and I am determined to make better choices than I have before.

Bankroll currently sitting at $105....

You can't play $5 and $10 SNGs with $100 roll and state you're following BRM

Switch to $1 SNG or go back to 2nl.

"But this time I am going to change"

"I will do it but later!!"

ever thought of not wanting to play lower than 100nl might have to do with your gambling problem?

I have 20 buy-ins for $5 games, and I am half-way to being there for $10 games. It's not like I'm torching BRM or anything. Maybe I'm just embracing my role as a degen.... I mean everyone says I am gonna go broke anyway? Might as well play on my terms. That way I am good either way...

You might not even be a winner @ $5 SNG... Also variance is different from cash games so you should legit move down.

Or you can deposit, say, $400 more for a 'responsible' 100-buyin shot with moving down at 50-bi mark (and still have enough left to grind the 'vile' NL5z cash.

What SnG format are those $5s? 9-max hypers?

I actually don't mind your idea of trying to get a sample on your performance in SnGs (as long as SnGs go off actively enough in your room and rake structure is good enough), but you prob. want a bit bigger 'shot' just in case you run in the bottom 10% of simulations, for example. You can tell me more about SnG format, rake, your expected edge, but in cold, it seems up to bottom quite a lot, say, 40% of runs could go busto e.g. cross that -21 or -12 and you starting to play worse mark at some point in the simulation.,

It's probably because anything below 100nl in the Western World is a complete waste of time to play if you want to make any real money.

Or he may be a winning player able to produce enough cEV to grind up this stake. Yet, he needs a sample to more realistically predict this.

How do you get a sample? You burn that 21bi to the ground or play till have
obtained enough bi for the next stake.

Once he's done, if he has amassed enough SnG(s). He has a sample of his cEV, finishing positions, evROI + some other data.

Your advice to a drug addict would be "here, have some more cocaine"?

I'm trying to stick to regs if at all possible. Turbo's only if I must. Full ring. I've only played a hyper once this go round, and that was by accident. I tried my hand at a couple of 6-max, but I am not nearly +Ev at that game to even begin to play them. So I'll be sticking to full ring.

We'll see how it goes. I have been cashing in about 50% of the games I played over the last week, obviously not nearly a sizable enough sample to determine how I'm really playing in these games, but it's a start none the less.

Hehe, caught red-handed

I know what your advice is and I quite dig it, it's good
A little bit pessimistic, but I totally see the points

For me tho', it's like. If he can beat $5s, he can improve a bit more and then beat $10s. Also it's a perfect place to execute sticking to BRM and coping with a loss, w/o executing gambling-mode blowing the rest, if 50bi is blown or if cEV is super bad and he has to finish the 'shot' b4 -50bi is reached for obvious reasons.

If he beats $10s he can start growing BR, which, arguably, accomplishes one of his objectives on this challenge.

How do you find out if you can beat $5s, you know you beat $5s. But for him it's prob. a "you prepare and take a controlled shot at the limit", then review the data.


Cool, gl hf!

He doesn't review data though, that is the thing. 100% he does not study the way a player who wants to improve would study.

That $400 is just extra money down the drain. If he can beat $5 games and he has 20 buy ins, the risk of ruin for even a a marginal winner is not that bad. In most instances the 20 buy in downswing would take some time to kick in and that is enough to get some chipEV data. If it fails then just deposit another $100 and hope it works out to build up that sample.

If OP deposits $400 he will play $10+, that is a guarantee. He might stick to $5 for a week and then you get a post "well **** it I'm lighting it up because I want to gamble" followed up by "hey at least I tried".

You should stop assuming OP is anything like 6betme. He seems pretty level headed to me, willing to put in the work, not going to compulsively jump into bigger games like 6betme does, he has a job to replenish any potential losses. Yes he had to some losses in the past, but he's willing to work hard to climb the stakes with correct BRM.

The point of playing those stakes aren't to make "real money" though. It's to practice proper bankroll management and learn to beat those games while gaining the skills needed to beat higher limits where it is possible to make "real money". A player doesn't have a chance to do the last thing in the vast, vast majority of cases without doing the other things.

Are we even reading the same thread? He's doing neither of those things so far.