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Old 11-09-2017, 11:59 PM   #76
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Re: challenge - 2nl to 500nl zoom

Nice blog goodluck on the journey will be following.
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Old 11-10-2017, 07:19 PM   #77
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Nice blog goodluck on the journey will be following.
thanks a lot dude

poker going well, heatering a little and people are spewing tremendously vs my 1/3 psb's. Going to put in some study into flop textures and sizings so I get them down pat.

Just bought the new call of duty and it's the first time I've been on a playstation since about 2011. Getting absolutely destroyed vs these young kids. Very fun and addictive game though

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Old 11-10-2017, 07:40 PM   #78
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Saw you on nl10 today, best of luck good sir
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Old 11-10-2017, 11:04 PM   #79
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Old 11-11-2017, 03:26 PM   #80
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Saw you on nl10 today, best of luck good sir
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thanks goise

little present from stars



first time I've had anything more than 1 dollar or 5k freeroll ticket. still nowhere near recoops me to what I would have been getting before

today



had few low volume days in a row so going to ramp it up from Monday

people really don't like it when you x/r turn after they miss cbet

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    BTN: $7.29 (72.9 bb)
    SB: $10.63 (106.3 bb)
    Hero (BB): $10.25 (102.5 bb)
    UTG: $28.29 (282.9 bb)
    MP: $10.24 (102.4 bb)
    CO: $13.27 (132.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 7
    UTG raises to $0.28, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.18

    Flop: ($0.61) 4 6 3 (2 players)
    Hero checks, UTG checks

    Turn: ($0.61) 5 (2 players)
    Hero checks, UTG bets $0.44, Hero raises to $1.70, UTG raises to $3.20, Hero raises to $9.97 and is all-in, UTG calls $6.77

    River: ($20.55) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)

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    Old 11-13-2017, 12:33 PM   #81
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    poker going well, learning a lot from watching a ton of videos and playing well. Tilt issues are what I've improved the most. Hoping to see strong mental game next downswing, easy when ****'s flowing

    garf since start of thread (oct 1st)









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      BTN: $10.20 (102 bb)
      SB: $7.80 (78 bb)
      BB: $17.42 (174.2 bb)
      UTG: $15.84 (158.4 bb)
      MP: $10.10 (101 bb)
      Hero (CO): $10 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with Q J
      UTG folds, MP raises to $0.25, Hero raises to $0.80, 3 folds, MP calls $0.55

      Flop: ($1.75) Q 4 Q (2 players)
      MP checks, Hero bets $0.55, MP calls $0.55

      Turn: ($2.85) J (2 players)
      MP checks, Hero checks

      River: ($2.85) 8 (2 players)
      MP bets $1.85, Hero raises to $8.65 and is all-in, MP calls $6.80

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      might be too thin


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        BTN: $17.46 (174.6 bb)
        SB: $11.38 (113.8 bb)
        BB: $12 (120 bb)
        UTG: $7.29 (72.9 bb)
        Hero (MP): $11.15 (111.5 bb)
        CO: $23.08 (230.8 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is MP with Q Q
        UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.30, CO calls $0.30, BTN raises to $1.10, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.80, CO folds

        Flop: ($2.65) Q T 6 (2 players)
        Hero checks, BTN bets $1.29, Hero calls $1.29

        Turn: ($5.23) K (2 players)
        Hero checks, BTN checks

        River: ($5.23) 3 (2 players)
        Hero checks, BTN bets $3.24, Hero raises to $8.76 and is all-in, BTN calls $5.52

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        anyone know much about computers? need to sort mine out, had laptop a year and it's slowed down dramatically. Was good specs when it came out and now it really struggles sometimes when I've got hem2, stars and web browser running at the same time. Absolute computer noob

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        Old 11-13-2017, 12:42 PM   #82
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        Hey, nice results bro, keep that upswing! Btw, what videos are you watching to improve?

        H2: i prefer 4bet/calling here with a player in the middle, QQ+/AK. otf I think we are better off c/r get it in because there are so many turns that kill our action and I dont expect villain to bluff later streets much. so getting the money asap seems good. Otr I prefer bet/prob fold, seems a little thin to target AK/AA with a c/r in this board runout, but I see what you are thinking. Some players might even x back AK or even AA so i prefer betting there
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        Old 11-13-2017, 01:02 PM   #83
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        Don't like turn x with qj you should be betting for value and setting up river jam,not giving free cards. That mentality of turning the nuts and checking is fishy.

        H2 is misplayed everywhere imo. 4bet pre not flatting to play qq 3 way oop, it's awful. flop is a xr many bad run outs, and as played river should be be bet fold.

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        Old 11-13-2017, 01:38 PM   #84
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        Hey, nice results bro, keep that upswing! Btw, what videos are you watching to improve?

        H2: i prefer 4bet/calling here with a player in the middle, QQ+/AK. otf I think we are better off c/r get it in because there are so many turns that kill our action and I dont expect villain to bluff later streets much. so getting the money asap seems good. Otr I prefer bet/prob fold, seems a little thin to target AK/AA with a c/r in this board runout, but I see what you are thinking. Some players might even x back AK or even AA so i prefer betting there
        thanks, mainly watching nick howard, juan copani, ishter and sauce

        yeah I think it can be definitely 4bet, although player specific I didn't have many hands on this guy so just went with playerpool tendency which is a very low squeeze. Vs this specific guy it is obviously the better play. Flop I normally mix between bet and raise, probably better to raise this combo, river I think all options have merits, probably again mixing the frequencies, however I think bet should be the highest frequency play yeah, not my finest hand but I don't think any of it is horrible, maybe river isn't good. probably flop raise is going to be higher ev though and river bet

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        Don't like turn x with qj you should be betting for value and setting up river jam,not giving free cards. That mentality of turning the nuts and checking is fishy.

        H2 is misplayed everywhere imo. 4bet pre not flatting to play qq 3 way oop, it's awful. flop is a xr many bad run outs, and as played river should be be bet fold.
        actually, giving away free cards is what led me to get his stack. I'm not doing this all the time with boats and it is totally different to the standard fish line of slowplaying everything that needs value and protection, apples and oranges

        I agree with some facets of the h2 statement, pre Is player dependent so you cannot blindly say it is awful imo. Vs this guy it could be better but I didn't have enough hands on him to make that judgement
        postflop you are probably right though, definitely should be the higher frequency play here to raise flop and bet river

        I almost didn't reply to your post, it's one thing to discuss strat but you bring negativity to every thread you post in and tbh your chat is just pure aids. but I guess i'll humour you this time

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        Old 11-13-2017, 01:46 PM   #85
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        watch out on what you are saying. Obviusly flatting QQ pre and callin otf are profitable plays because your hand is so nutted, but as you said yourself you took lines with -ev compared to the other options, so that is a bad thing.

        You think rio elite is worth for micro/low stakes? (I play simmilar)
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        Old 11-13-2017, 01:56 PM   #86
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        river too thin of a raise, i think calling there with QQ is good

        mirages comments are not even worth responding to lol, nice graphs keep it up!
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        Old 11-13-2017, 02:37 PM   #87
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        It I think it can be definitely 4bet, although player specific I didn't have many hands on this guy so just went with playerpool tendency which is a very low squeeze. Vs this specific guy it is obviously the better play. Flop I normally mix between bet and raise, probably better to raise this combo, river I think all options have merits, probably again mixing the frequencies, however I think bet should be the highest frequency play yeah, not my finest hand but I don't think any of it is horrible, maybe river isn't good. probably flop raise is going to be higher ev though and river bet
        From memory 10z is pretty aggressive and regardless you have qq 3 way you have to go with it not flat and play it 3 way which is clearly awful with qq, you are killing your equity like that by allowing co to flat so wide.

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        actually, giving away free cards is what led me to get his stack. I'm not doing this all the time with boats and it is totally different to the standard fish line of slowplaying everything that needs value and protection, apples and oranges
        Ah the old I hit my draw so my bad play is justified. Again classic fish mentality. What about the other 75% of the time he missed his draw and you lose value? Or he hits his draw and he's not stupid enough to get stacked because the pot was so small on the river? You have not yet realized that ******s almost never fold to turn bets when chasing draws?


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        I almost didn't reply to your post, it's one thing to discuss strat but you bring negativity to every thread you post in and tbh your chat is just pure aids. but I guess i'll humour you this time
        Now now. Don't get upset at constructive criticism. Plently of nut huggers around here like ch@otic to keep you company you don't need another.
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        Old 11-13-2017, 02:39 PM   #88
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        river too thin of a raise, i think calling there with QQ is good

        mirages comments are not even worth responding to lol, nice graphs keep it up!

        How about you give an explanation as to why flatting QQ oop 3 way for 100bb is 'good'
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        Old 11-13-2017, 02:46 PM   #89
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        I meant river call, pf is whatever hero's reads are on villain. Calling pf isnt bad even though id lean towards getting it in vs squeeze. Poker is much more subjective than you seem to post everywhere. You are not in villains shoes and calling things "awful or bad" constantly only reflects your understanding of the game.
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        Old 11-13-2017, 03:04 PM   #90
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        I meant river call, pf is whatever hero's reads are on villain. Calling pf isnt bad even though id lean towards getting it in vs squeeze. Poker is much more subjective than you seem to post everywhere. You are not in villains shoes and calling things "awful or bad" constantly only reflects your understanding of the game.
        Ok I misread sorry. Yes river is a call. Some spots are subjective but I think I am talking about clear objective strategy spots. He said he had no read on villian so his play should have been GTO based and I'm pretty sure flatting was worse than 4bet.
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        Old 11-13-2017, 03:07 PM   #91
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        @mirage01

        What happened recently to make you want to HELP people instead of troll them?
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        Old 11-13-2017, 03:29 PM   #92
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        Now now. Don't get upset at constructive criticism. Plently of nut huggers around here like ch@otic to keep you company you don't need another.
        do you coach?
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        Old 11-13-2017, 10:29 PM   #93
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        mirages comments are not even worth responding to lol, nice graphs keep it up!
        I don't agree with him, but he has some merit.
        4-betting QQ is surely the std play, but in poker sometimes you have to deviate from what the "std play" is. Not everything is std in this game, in fact, most of the situations aren't, to be able to question every play, why you're making each of those plays, why villains are doing that, that is the key in poker.

        IMO, vs some villains in OP's stakes, it's completely fine to just flat QQ pre. Some guys out there 3-bet a very tight range(QQ+, AK+), which makes it a losing move to 4-bet pre, it's better to call, try to hit a set vs the top of his range(AA/KK) and if villain is too straightforward, beat him when he has AK.
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        Old 11-14-2017, 12:20 PM   #94
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        I don't agree with him, but he has some merit.
        4-betting QQ is surely the std play, but in poker sometimes you have to deviate from what the "std play" is. Not everything is std in this game, in fact, most of the situations aren't, to be able to question every play, why you're making each of those plays, why villains are doing that, that is the key in poker.

        IMO, vs some villains in OP's stakes, it's completely fine to just flat QQ pre. Some guys out there 3-bet a very tight range(QQ+, AK+), which makes it a losing move to 4-bet pre, it's better to call, try to hit a set vs the top of his range(AA/KK) and if villain is too straightforward, beat him when he has AK.
        Agree totally, I definitely feel it should be standard to 4bet here, but I tentd to go on the side of caution vs people I don't have hands against, not so much in late position but definitely when opening from early positions. vs a player who 3bets more than 6 percent i'm fistpump getting it in ofc.

        I do agree with some of mirages comments regarding postflop play for this hand, just wish he was more eloquent
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        Old 11-14-2017, 08:27 PM   #95
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        prolly most annoying session in a long time tonight, was laughing at some of the runouts but I kept composure right until the last 500 hands where I went on monkey tilt need to have more stop loss timeframe restrictions as you just can't play as well when you're losing

        basically couldn't win a hand all night, wasn't the most fun. only stacked someone for 100bb once and that was a flip lol




        the most lol hand, miss clicked the turn bet so didn't quite put him all in, which has shaved 17dollars off my ev graph lol



          Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37871146

          BTN: $7.58 (75.8 bb)
          SB: $10 (100 bb)
          BB: $9.05 (90.5 bb)
          UTG: $10.61 (106.1 bb)
          MP: $10.05 (100.5 bb)
          Hero (CO): $15.40 (154 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is CO with J J
          UTG raises to $0.30, MP folds, Hero raises to $0.90, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.60

          Flop: ($1.95) 4 7 T (2 players)
          UTG bets $0.95, Hero raises to $2.15, UTG calls $1.20

          Turn: ($6.25) 6 (2 players)
          UTG checks, Hero bets $7.46, UTG calls $7.46

          River: ($21.17) A (2 players)
          UTG bets $0.10 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.10

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          guy was new to the pool and looked super fishy, wouldn't raise riv vs reg prob but think this is ok


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            Hero (BTN): $11.53 (115.3 bb)
            SB: $10.27 (102.7 bb)
            BB: $14.15 (141.5 bb)
            UTG: $26.12 (261.2 bb)
            MP: $13.80 (138 bb)
            CO: $28.99 (289.9 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is BTN with 5 J
            3 folds, Hero raises to $0.25, SB folds, BB calls $0.15

            Flop: ($0.55) 8 6 2 (2 players)
            BB checks, Hero bets $0.36, BB raises to $0.72, Hero calls $0.36

            Turn: ($1.99) A (2 players)
            BB bets $1.90, Hero calls $1.90

            River: ($5.79) 7 (2 players)
            BB bets $5.50, Hero raises to $8.66, BB calls $3.16

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              Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37871145

              BTN: $10.49 (104.9 bb)
              SB: $12.18 (121.8 bb)
              BB: $2.67 (26.7 bb)
              UTG: $12.92 (129.2 bb)
              MP: $4.70 (47 bb)
              Hero (CO): $10.75 (107.5 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is CO with J T
              2 folds, Hero raises to $0.27, BTN folds, SB raises to $0.90, BB folds, Hero calls $0.63

              Flop: ($1.90) 8 7 6 (2 players)
              SB bets $0.95, Hero raises to $2.60, SB calls $1.65

              Turn: ($7.10) 3 (2 players)
              SB checks, Hero bets $7.25 and is all-in, SB calls $7.25

              River: ($21.60) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

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              bad call I think, like this combo which doesn't block fd's but think people are only going to bluff one street normally here

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              Button ($9.31)
              Hero (SB) ($13.76)
              BB ($9.05)
              UTG ($13.68)
              MP ($26.90)
              CO ($10.14)

              Preflop: Hero is SB with A, 10
              2 folds, CO raises to $0.30, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.20, 1 fold, CO calls $0.90

              Flop: ($2.50) A, 2, A (2 players)
              Hero bets $0.60, CO calls $0.60

              Turn: ($3.70) 5 (2 players)
              Hero checks, CO bets $2.37, Hero calls $2.37

              River: ($8.44) J (2 players)
              Hero checks, CO bets $5.97 (All-In), Hero calls $5.97

              Total pot: $20.38 | Rake: $0.92

              Results below: [spoiler]
              Hero had A, 10 (three of a kind, Aces).
              CO had A, Q (three of a kind, Aces).
              Outcome: CO won $19.46[/spoiler]


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              Hero (Button) ($11.78)
              SB ($10)
              BB ($10.15)
              UTG ($12.84)
              MP ($4.24)
              CO ($19.78)

              Preflop: Hero is Button with A, 6
              3 folds, Hero raises to $0.25, 1 fold, BB raises to $0.90, Hero calls $0.65

              Flop: ($1.85) Q, 4, J (2 players)
              BB checks, Hero bets $0.58, BB raises to $1.55, Hero raises to $10.88 (All-In), BB calls $7.70 (All-In)

              Turn: ($20.35) 5 (2 players, 2 all-in)

              River: ($20.35) Q (2 players, 2 all-in)

              Total pot: $20.35 | Rake: $0.92

              Results below: [spoiler]
              Hero had A, 6 (one pair, Queens).
              BB had J, J (full house, Jacks over Queens).
              Outcome: BB won $19.43[/spoiler]

              just knew this guy had nothing on flop with his timing etc, fail hero call sigh


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              Button ($9.40)
              Hero (SB) ($14.57)
              BB ($9.01)
              UTG ($45.51)
              MP ($10.79)
              CO ($8.57)

              Preflop: Hero is SB with 9, 9
              3 folds, Button raises to $0.20, Hero raises to $0.80, 1 fold, Button calls $0.60

              Flop: ($1.70) 8, 8, 10 (2 players)
              Hero bets $0.53, Button raises to $2.54, Hero calls $2.01

              Turn: ($6.78) K (2 players)
              Hero checks, Button bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

              River: ($7.38) 5 (2 players)
              Hero checks, Button bets $5.76 (All-In), Hero calls $5.76

              Total pot: $18.90 | Rake: $0.85

              Results below: [spoiler]
              Button had A, K (two pair, Kings and eights).
              Hero had 9, 9 (two pair, nines and eights).
              Outcome: Button won $18.05[/spoiler]

              k

              PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

              Button ($19.64)
              Hero (SB) ($14.55)
              BB ($9.80)
              UTG ($6.82)
              MP ($14.86)
              CO ($10.70)

              Preflop: Hero is SB with 9, 9
              UTG raises to $0.20, 1 fold, CO calls $0.20, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.15, BB calls $0.10

              Flop: ($0.80) 9, K, 8 (4 players)
              Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.76, CO raises to $2.47, Hero calls $2.47, 1 fold, UTG calls $1.71

              Turn: ($8.21) 6 (3 players)
              Hero bets $11.88 (All-In), UTG calls $4.15 (All-In), 1 fold

              River: ($16.51) 10 (2 players, 2 all-in)

              Total pot: $16.51 | Rake: $0.74

              Results below: [spoiler]
              Hero had 9, 9 (three of a kind, nines).
              UTG had 7, J (straight, Jack high).
              Outcome: UTG won $15.77[/spoiler]


              not today

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              Button ($6.30)
              SB ($10.35)
              BB ($10)
              UTG ($10)
              Hero (MP) ($12.19)
              CO ($9.90)

              Preflop: Hero is MP with 10, 8
              1 fold, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, SB calls $0.25, 1 fold

              Flop: ($0.70) 3, 8, 6 (2 players)
              SB checks, Hero bets $0.22, SB raises to $1.09, Hero calls $0.87

              Turn: ($2.88) 5 (2 players)
              SB bets $1.79, Hero calls $1.79

              River: ($6.46) 5 (2 players)
              SB bets $4.80, Hero calls $4.80

              Total pot: $16.06 | Rake: $0.72

              Results below: [spoiler]
              SB had 4, A (one pair, fives).
              Hero had 10, 8 (two pair, eights and fives).
              Outcome: Hero won $15.34[/spoiler]

              I was really holding back my finger from pressing jam it was painful

              PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

              Hero (Button) ($14.35)
              SB ($8.51)
              BB ($10.19)
              UTG ($31.27)
              MP ($11.66)
              CO ($11.58)

              Preflop: Hero is Button with 9, 10
              3 folds, Hero raises to $0.25, 1 fold, BB calls $0.15

              Flop: ($0.55) 3, 8, Q (2 players)
              BB checks, Hero bets $0.17, BB calls $0.17

              Turn: ($0.89) J (2 players)
              BB checks, Hero bets $0.70, BB calls $0.70

              River: ($2.29) A (2 players)
              BB checks, Hero bets $1.53, BB raises to $4.16, Hero calls $2.63

              Total pot: $10.61 | Rake: $0.48

              Results below: [spoiler]
              Hero didn't show 9, 10 (straight, Queen high).
              BB had K, 10 (straight, Ace high).
              Outcome: BB won $10.13[/spoiler]



              lots of little gems like this also

              PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

              Button ($13.28)
              SB ($15.04)
              Hero (BB) ($10)
              UTG ($10.57)
              MP ($19.50)
              CO ($2.34)

              Preflop: Hero is BB with A, J
              UTG raises to $0.30, 2 folds, Button calls $0.30, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.20

              Flop: ($0.95) J, 9, 7 (3 players)
              Hero checks, UTG checks, Button checks

              Turn: ($0.95) 3 (3 players)
              Hero bets $0.69, UTG calls $0.69, 1 fold

              River: ($2.33) 6 (2 players)
              Hero bets $1.50, UTG calls $1.50

              Total pot: $5.33 | Rake: $0.24

              Results below: [spoiler]
              Hero had A, J (one pair, Jacks).
              UTG had 5, 4 (straight, seven high).
              Outcome: UTG won $5.09[/spoiler]
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              Old 11-14-2017, 08:45 PM   #96
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              Re: challenge - 2nl to 500nl zoom

              J5dd is a std raise otr
              mash the overbet on turn w/ T9 when you bink the nuts, whether or not you choose to do it exploitatively (ref being balanced) is up to you, but it's very rare that you are supposed to bet below pot here

              gl grinding through the downswing (Y)
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              Old 11-15-2017, 07:35 AM   #97
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              Re: challenge - 2nl to 500nl zoom

              J5 is actually more of a fold than anything else. Even fish don't play weak fds like that, oop.

              AT not sure why your checking the turn, if you do just xr on that board you get all sorts of ****** calls. You can't fold river anyway.
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              Old 11-15-2017, 11:24 AM   #98
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              Re: challenge - 2nl to 500nl zoom

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              J5dd is a std raise otr
              mash the overbet on turn w/ T9 when you bink the nuts, whether or not you choose to do it exploitatively (ref being balanced) is up to you, but it's very rare that you are supposed to bet below pot here

              gl grinding through the downswing (Y)
              yeah I normally mix between 75 and overbet, usually overbet, I'm sure I I watched a video where pio mixes between like 3/4 and overbet on turns with value, maybe its even more high freq with stone cold nuts though. People are overfolding big time vs overbets so far so I am just widening my bluffing freq a ton with overbets

              ty man

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              J5 is actually more of a fold than anything else. Even fish don't play weak fds like that, oop.

              AT not sure why your checking the turn, if you do just xr on that board you get all sorts of ****** calls. You can't fold river anyway.
              ez river fold ldo

              seems like you don't have a check button, just bet or fold, ez game
              river should be a call, but vs some people it's probably losing
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              Old 11-15-2017, 02:39 PM   #99
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              Re: challenge - 2nl to 500nl zoom

              10z pool is pretty big and full of ******s so I think it's optimal to maximise value rather than balance if you want to escape the rake and pool. I would bluff catch with AT on a few boards but not on that one, I'd prefer xr turn, he's not folding any fd with pot bet left behind so you lose value against them and even weaker Ax might check bad rivers.
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              Old 11-15-2017, 04:17 PM   #100
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              Re: challenge - 2nl to 500nl zoom

              The party continuesssss...

              holddd... holddddd.. pfff

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                BTN: $17.04 (170.4 bb)
                SB: $8.04 (80.4 bb)
                BB: $14.38 (143.8 bb)
                UTG: $10 (100 bb)
                MP: $17.21 (172.1 bb)
                Hero (CO): $11.11 (111.1 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is CO with K K
                UTG folds, MP raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1, 3 folds, MP raises to $2.70, Hero raises to $11.11 and is all-in, MP calls $8.41

                Flop: ($22.37) 6 T 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
                Turn: ($22.37) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
                River: ($22.37) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)

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                AA? .. couldn't see his cards as hud was in the way but I saw 4% equity when flop came out lol


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                  BTN: $7.76 (77.6 bb)
                  SB: $4.07 (40.7 bb)
                  Hero (BB): $10 (100 bb)
                  UTG: $10 (100 bb)
                  MP: $13.54 (135.4 bb)
                  CO: $10.15 (101.5 bb)

                  Preflop: Hero is BB with K K
                  UTG raises to $0.28, MP calls $0.28, 2 folds, SB calls $0.23, Hero raises to $1.70, UTG raises to $10 and is all-in, 2 folds, Hero calls $8.30 and is all-in

                  Flop: ($20.56) 7 3 4 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
                  Turn: ($20.56) 4 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
                  River: ($20.56) 2 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

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                  nice flop jam dickhead


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                    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37871632

                    BTN: $10 (100 bb)
                    SB: $19.25 (192.5 bb)
                    BB: $17.67 (176.7 bb)
                    UTG: $18.97 (189.7 bb)
                    MP: $13.92 (139.2 bb)
                    Hero (CO): $10.15 (101.5 bb)

                    Preflop: Hero is CO with K K
                    2 folds, Hero raises to $0.27, BTN raises to $0.81, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.10, BTN calls $1.29

                    Flop: ($4.35) 2 3 J (2 players)
                    Hero bets $1.37, BTN raises to $7.90 and is all-in, Hero calls $6.53

                    Turn: ($20.15) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
                    River: ($20.15) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

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                      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37871634

                      BTN: $5 (50 bb)
                      SB: $9.50 (95 bb)
                      BB: $10 (100 bb)
                      Hero (UTG): $11.32 (113.2 bb)
                      MP: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
                      CO: $9.14 (91.4 bb)

                      Preflop: Hero is UTG with A K
                      Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.30, SB raises to $0.50, BB folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BTN folds, SB calls $1

                      Flop: ($3.40) A 5 6 (2 players)
                      SB checks, Hero bets $1.07, SB calls $1.07

                      Turn: ($5.54) 9 (2 players)
                      SB checks, Hero bets $8.75 and is all-in, SB calls $6.93 and is all-in

                      River: ($19.40) 4 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

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                      mehh

                        Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37871635

                        Hero (BTN): $10.05 (100.5 bb)
                        SB: $14.38 (143.8 bb)
                        BB: $8 (80 bb)
                        UTG: $11.61 (116.1 bb)
                        MP: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
                        CO: $9.85 (98.5 bb)

                        Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q A
                        3 folds, Hero raises to $0.25, SB folds, BB raises to $0.40, Hero calls $0.15

                        Flop: ($0.85) 2 K A (2 players)
                        BB bets $1, Hero calls $1

                        Turn: ($2.85) 7 (2 players)
                        BB checks, Hero bets $1.52, BB calls $1.52

                        River: ($5.89) 7 (2 players)
                        BB bets $5.08 and is all-in, Hero folds

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                        dafuq

                          Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37871636

                          BTN: $27.42 (274.2 bb)
                          SB: $14.27 (142.7 bb)
                          Hero (BB): $10 (100 bb)
                          UTG: $10 (100 bb)
                          MP: $10 (100 bb)
                          CO: $8.54 (85.4 bb)

                          Preflop: Hero is BB with T 9
                          3 folds, BTN raises to $0.27, SB folds, Hero raises to $1.08, BTN calls $0.81

                          Flop: ($2.21) 3 6 8 (2 players)
                          Hero bets $0.70, BTN calls $0.70

                          Turn: ($3.61) T (2 players)
                          Hero checks, BTN bets $0.64, Hero calls $0.64

                          River: ($4.89) A (2 players)
                          Hero checks, BTN checks

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                          despite such shinanigans ev line not plummeting which is cool

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