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02-11-2018 , 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
Under the right circumstances turn jam could be okay buy the jam is solely about denying equity so he needs to be bet folding a lot to justify this
Yeah this for sure, like yeah he can have all FD's KQ/KJ/AJ or w/e combos here the more combos he is going to be betting of those higher EV it is to jam?

Hard to say if jamming AI is going to be more +EV then EV of calling if you have something like CREV you can see exactly which is going to be higher EV given those assumptions.
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02-11-2018 , 09:32 PM
Estimate of 3 bet range

77+, A2s+, K8s+, QTs+, J9s+, T8s+, 97s+, 86s+, 75s+, ATo+, KJo+

2 barrel range - tight

99+, 77, T9s, 97s, 86s, AdKd, AdQd, KdQd, AdJd, KdJd, QdJd, Ad8d, Kd8d, Ad7d, Ad6d, Ad5d, Ad4d, Ad3d, Ad2d

we have 32% vs above range

2 barrel - loose, including half of the off suit overs

88+, T8s+, 97s, 86s, AdKd, AhKh, AdQd, AhQh, KdQd, KhQh, AdJd, AhJh, KdJd, KhJh, QdJd, QhJh, Ad8d, Kd8d, Ad7d, Ad6d, Ad5d, Ad4d, Ad3d, Ad2d, AdKh, AdKs, AdKc, AhKs, AhKc, AsKc, AdQh, AdQs, AdQc, AhQs, AhQc, AsQc, AdJh, AdJs, AdJc, AhJs, AhJc, AsJc, KdQh, KdQs, KdQc, KhQs, KhQc, KsQc, KdJh, KdJs, KdJc, KhJs, KhJc, KsJc

we have 53% vs the above range


not heard of CREV, sounds good
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02-11-2018 , 09:34 PM
oh right card runners ev
wont run direct for mac
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02-12-2018 , 08:46 PM
€2041

vs unknown guy, hadnt sat down long
I play generally quite bad heads up and tend to play too loose and stack off lighter. here I went for fold since i just couldnt see us being good.

SB/btn: €50.25
BB: €70.84
UTG: €106.81 sit out

Preflop: Hero is BB with QK
SB/btn raises to €1, hero raises to €4.25, SB calls €3.25

Flop: (€8.50) 89Q (2 players)
hero bets €4.25, sb/btn calls €4.25

Turn: (€17) 3 (2 players)
hero checks, sb/btn bets €9.50, hero calls

River: (€37) 3 (2 players)
hero checks, sb/btn bets €32.25 and is all in, hero folds
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02-13-2018 , 05:33 PM
1 hour mini-session
standard of play: 8/10
mental game: 8/10

hand 1.
Like the river lead as villain reps give-ups/sdv after turn check. He cant rep a boat on the river so he is repping a flush only which isn't a total disaster with Ad. We have JJ in our range though, and the main argument against his play is that people wont give him credit for a flush as he is expected to fire turn. Obv he picked up sdv so decided to check turn, but then decided not to realise his sdv on the river and presumably tried to get us off AK/KJ/QK.

SB: $56.58
BB: $83.96
hero CO: $50
BTN: $50.93

Preflop: Hero is CO with QK
hero raises to $1.50, BTN raises to $4.75, fold, fold, hero calls $3.25

Flop: ($10.25) 7K2 2 players
hero checks, BTN bets $4.75, hero calls $4.75

Turn ($19.75) J 2 players
hero checks, BTN checks

River ($19.75) 2
hero bets $9.87, BTN raises to $41.43, hero calls $30.63

shows down AJ
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02-13-2018 , 09:22 PM
1.5 hours
standard of play: 8/10
mental game: 7/10

reason for mental game being just 7 is that I am feeling slightly tilted by other regulars when they play well/run hot, because it's difficult to find an edge and can get over-whelmed. These hands vs same guy:

1. Guy was flatting a ton in position vs me which was f-king annoying, this is the sign of a decent player because he knows the blinds are passive and while he will know I'm not a fish he will also know he has a natural edge being in position. He had been playing v solid post and I kept missing every flop, like stone dead.

an earlier hand I picked up 79 in CO and he flat called btn. heads up flop came JQ2 and I decided to check raise him which he called. This should have set alarm bells because he is either drawing to a nuttier flush or he has at least KQ as a made hand. 9Ts/KTs is also possible. Turn brings A .... AQ I think is 3betting pre, JJ, QQ too, A improves KT and JQ still is in good shape. I bet anyway he called and I check folded a brick river. Wasn't too happy with my play, I think 79s could be dropped as an open in this spot, flop could easily be a bet, I think check raise just doesn't make a lot of sense, check call might be preferable and just check call if we bink a club and we might have a good bluff spot on the river.


This one again I'm not convinced about this open, certainly as a default its fine but on an aggressive table I think we can just muck.
Flop is a range bet even though he will have 7x, 88-TT,AJ,ATs etc. turn improves 78 but we can rep a stronger 2 pair particularly given we are in the MP. River I think we have more flushes in our range than he does, plus all the premiums have an easy 3 barrel, and our 9 is a bit more important as a 99 blocker on the river. He might also have some big aces getting sticky on this board. So yeah I don't think I'm basing it on results to say this is an ok bluff, and I think most times here he folds a better hand:

100bbs deep
hero raises from MP to $1.50 with A9
CO calls $1.50

flop ($4.25) - 272
hero bets $1.25, CO calls

turn ($6.75) 8
hero bets $4.68, CO calls

river ($16.11) 3
hero bets $11.75, fold


another one vs same guy

Btn raises to $1, hero is BB with K7 calls

flop ($2.25) 575

hero checks, BTn bets $1.68, hero raises to $5.75, fold

Decent enough call pre vs min-open. Flop we are vulnerable and villain is unlikely to be strong, he tends to 3/4 pot everywhere. If he checks back it's ok because we do have sdv. Not sure we can get called by worse but we can sometimes see a show down, I will check a lot of turns if called.


Last one vs different guy, very nice river, can get him off all the diamonds a lot of which are ahead, and a lot of pairs too I think

Hero is Btn with 9T
hero raises to $1, SB calls

flop ($2.50) 737

check, hero bets $1, call

turn ($3.50) 6
check, hero bets $2.75, call

river ($9) A
check, hero bets $7, fold



roll $2082
Heater incoming.....................
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02-15-2018 , 04:01 PM
nooooo, def not incoming.......>>>>>>>.

First 5 mins yesterday got

KK<AA all in pre
88 vs JJ on J8x

I know i know i know, standard, std, std
but for some reason this just set me off on crazy spew, like proper spew getting it in very bad and calling very easy bet fold spots etc.... dumped 4-5 buy ins
def mental leaks everywhere there because I struggle to handle
a) losing
b) cooler
c) beat
since these are fundamental elements to the game that's no good no.
back to jared and mental game audiobook


Last hour session this one came up

UTG with KQ
btn calls

2KQ

hero bets, btn calls

6

hero bets, btn calls

2

hero bets 1/3 pot leaving about 40BBs behind, btn jams, hero thinks btn rarely has a better hand but shows down AA.
This actually didnt bother me because I am happy with my sizings, while we block pairs we can still vbet, btn might bluff jam over the small size. Obv he sucked out on the river but played the hand fine, SB was active so he might induce a squeeze pre and back raise.

So it looks like tilt is a subtle affair that depends on some combinations of factors but often has a very simple cause ie. dont like losing.

another one fish open jams 40bbs we call with AK and get sucked out on, then fish goes and loses the 80bbs to a reg. soooooooooooo std, and this didnt affect me.

Too bad to update roll, can only do so when back to 2k. Thats a rule I just made up.
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02-15-2018 , 07:07 PM
hero raises with KA
SB 3bets with QQ
BB jams with 24
call, call

flop
JTK

its close but hero has it

turn
4

oooh.....

river
4

fish takes it down
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02-16-2018 , 07:00 PM
decent-ish mini session, well 1 buy in up is smashing it right now

hand 1. Don't like facing 2 big bets and this could be -ev which means we should fold ofc, we are about a 2-1 dog vs a tight range of over pair, sets, spades, hearts, and hearts will be nut draws. Touch of fold equity on turn though but then rake as well

Hero opens btn with KJ
BB 3bets, hero calls

flop brings
6T4

BB 3/4 pot
hero calls

turn Q

BB bets 3/4 pot
hero ships

brick river, BB shows down AA
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02-17-2018 , 12:05 AM
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02-17-2018 , 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by felixxx1021
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02-17-2018 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by tomj
decent-ish mini session, well 1 buy in up is smashing it right now

hand 1. Don't like facing 2 big bets and this could be -ev which means we should fold ofc, we are about a 2-1 dog vs a tight range of over pair, sets, spades, hearts, and hearts will be nut draws. Touch of fold equity on turn though but then rake as well

Hero opens btn with KJ
BB 3bets, hero calls

flop brings
6T4

BB 3/4 pot
hero calls

turn Q

BB bets 3/4 pot
hero ships

brick river, BB shows down AA
It's fine with such a strong draw, man. If villain is the king of nits and not capable of bluffing it's better to just call, but if you have at least some hope that villain is bluffing/bet-folding something, jamming is good(unless you're super deep ofc).
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02-17-2018 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
It's fine with such a strong draw, man. If villain is the king of nits and not capable of bluffing it's better to just call, but if you have at least some hope that villain is bluffing/bet-folding something, jamming is good(unless you're super deep ofc).
tyty

good to see you over here man GL
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02-18-2018 , 07:49 PM
play standard - 8/10
mental - 9/10



hand 1
vs random reggish fish reg
100BBs deep, 6 handed

hero has QK
MP raises to 1.50, hero calls, BB calls

flop
Q94
Mp bets half pot, hero calls, BB folds

turn
7
Mp bets small, hero calls

river
A
MP checks, hero bets half pot, mp folds

not sure here, think it's a decent vbet though, maybe had TJ but some QT there also. Probably not many aces in his range


hand 2
wtf hand vs whale/genius, 100 bigs deep.

MP raises to 1.50, hero calls BB with 88

flop
J77
hero checks, MP min bets 0.50, hero raises to 3.68, mp raises to 8.98, hero calls

turn
T
hero checks, MP bets 0.50, hero calls

river
9
hero bets 2/3 pot, MP folds


hand 3 vs same genius-whale, 100bbs deeep
UTG raises to 1, folds to hero in BB with TT

flop
JT3
hero checks, UTG bets 0.50, hero calls 0.50

turn
6
hero donks 3/4 pot because I thought i should have raised the min donk on the flop, villain calls

River
8
hero bets big, fish jams, hero folds


hand 4, vs unknown UTG and tagnitreg on btn, 100 bbs deep

UTG raises, hero 3bets with KK, btn cold calls, UTG calls

flop
97K
check, hero bets 40% pot, call, call

turn
9
check, hero bets 1/3 pot, btn jams, fold, hero calls

shows down AK
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02-20-2018 , 03:00 AM
Gonna have to post sooner or later

e1310

"They can't handle the swings"

So sick to be nearly breakeven 6 weeks in after running so hot in first 2 weeks. Between 1/4 and 1/3 I would say is down to bad play. It's hard to play solid when losing. But in general mental game doesn't feel terrible, just got to get that ABC game going which has worked well in the past and I think is good enough to beat nl50.
Dropped down to nl25 however which is the correct thing to do at this point, hasn't made a difference except losing at half the rate. Another day another sklansky dollar
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02-20-2018 , 06:04 PM
NL25, any views on these?

hand 1. vs unknowns 100bbs deep in the SB vs CO with AT
CO raises to 3x, fold, hero raises to 9x, fold, CO raises to 20x, hero folds
could call the 4bet for this price or a safe fold?



hand 2. in the BB vs limper, 100BBs deep
CO limps 0.25, hero is BB and raises to 1 with 8T, CO calls

flop
84Q
hero bets half pot, CO calls

turn
9
hero checks, CO bets half pot, hero calls

river
4

hero checks, CO checks

standard?

Spoiler:
shows down 66



hand 3. hero is SB with TJ
didnt see the caller was short at the time, if 100bbs deep this an ok squeeze? anyone flatting vs 40bb caller or just muck?

UTG 22.75
MP 25 sit out
CO 24.60
BTN 11.25
sB hero 25.45
BB 29.28

fold, CO raises to 0.75, BTn calls 0.75, hero raises to 3.25?
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02-20-2018 , 07:10 PM
hand 4.
river easy check back or any value? standard calls no raise?

4 handed 100bbs deep vs regular

hero is CO with AQ and raises to 0.75, SB raises to 2.50, hero calls

flop 9Q6
SB bets half pot, hero calls

turn 3
SB bets half pot, hero calls

river 9
SB checks, hero
Spoiler:
checks, shows down KJdd





hand 5.
vs unknown 100 bbs deep. AK no spade best river call with no fd blocker and 2 pair blockers? AA no spade fine? with spade? Or just explo fold all 1 pair hands?

hero raises EP with AA
sB calls

flop 56K
check, hero bets 3/4 pot, call

turn 8
check, hero bets 3/4 pot, call

river J
SB donks 3/4 pot, hero
Spoiler:
stations, shows down KJ





hand 6.
stationing BB vs SB, fold river or std?

hero is BB with KT and calls open from SB unknown, 100 bbs deep

flop 6K6
SB bets 2/3 pot, hero calls

turn 9
SB bets 2/3 pot, hero calls

river 5
SB bets 3/4 pot, hero calls
Spoiler:
shows down 69ss
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02-20-2018 , 07:13 PM
ATs would call 4! should be +EV a lot of suited Ax and PPs.

T8s 1/3 flop should be fine no need to go to big on this texture unless you want to use larger sizings, turn i think people are bad and bet a lot of Qx and FD's etc. if u think they will fold Qx to a xraise i'd go for it i think i fold turn i guess?

JTs i think a cold call like that from a shortstack shouldn't be an issue i would squeeze there unless shortstack was PFR, um if u think BU will over-defend and 4! stuff like 77 and GII then yeah i'd call
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02-20-2018 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Eudaimonia
ATs would call 4! should be +EV a lot of suited Ax and PPs.

T8s 1/3 flop should be fine no need to go to big on this texture unless you want to use larger sizings, turn i think people are bad and bet a lot of Qx and FD's etc. if u think they will fold Qx to a xraise i'd go for it i think i fold turn i guess?

JTs i think a cold call like that from a shortstack shouldn't be an issue i would squeeze there unless shortstack was PFR, um if u think BU will over-defend and 4! stuff like 77 and GII then yeah i'd call
tyty

interesting re calling the ATs

I think I like a 3/4 with the 8Ts vs the limper with 2nd pair for value/protection. 1/3 vs reg if betting. 1/2 is meh either way. I thought fish will have a ton of hands on flop and a good number on turn so Qx is a fraction of his range, obv betting becomes more polarised so yeah don't hate fold, but then we have gutshot, 2 pair and trip outs aswell so that swings it imo and we wont always face a river bet

ok great re TJs, thought I made a mess as didn't see his stack, all good.
I think I'm calling off a btn back raise shove if that happens but that is a rare spot I think.

what about the call down with KT bvb?
and the aces facing river donk?
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02-20-2018 , 10:43 PM
KT is def an easy fold OTR, thinking about hero's range interactions especially since we can have a lot of 6x.

Do you have Piosolver or CREV those would def help you with these spots? GL
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02-21-2018 , 05:02 AM
Thanks man. Was considering Pio as was struggling at nl100 then hit downswing so didn't want to invest in it. Crev looks more affordable. But then there is the time issue of learning how to use it etc seems time consuming
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02-24-2018 , 04:17 PM
bankroll $1162

had actually dropped down to NL10 but then I thought wtf am I doing here, games are great still at nl50, and still rolled for it. Hope to get run good going. Going through all the hands unibet allows me to and its difficult to analyse but cant see anything too major going wrong, at least imo.

This one I justified because he is repping that sdv which rivered the flush so this cuts down on quite a few possible combos. I also bet folded a ridic high number of rivers last night, not that that is ever a reason to call now its just that can get to you so there's a mental leak there as well.

cant find HH, basically flop is 2 tone and T4x, we check call OOP with 44, villain checks back Q turn, river brings a club, we lead for 3/4 pot, villain raises pot size, we sigh call. My thought was that people tend to fire again with a bare fd. showed down a flush with a T.


another river raise, this time with 2 nut blockers and him checking turn with AJ is unlikely so a clear call I think though sometimes we will chop, rake considerations

100BBs, deep, villain unkown
CO raises to 1.50, hero is BB with JJ and raises to 4.75, call

KQT
hero checks, CO bets 1/2 pot, hero calls

7
hero checks, Co checks

9
hero bets 1/2 pot, CO shoves, call

Spoiler:
CO shows down A3
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02-24-2018 , 05:33 PM
that flop!
that turn!
that sizing?

hero is btn with 57 and 3bets CO open

flop is the

A63

CO checks, hero bets 1/3, CO calls

4

CO checks, hero bombs close to pot, fold

reasoning is we dont block any Ax and thought worse pockets probably inelastically fold anyway


vs 60bb fish - could raise flop but rainbow and not too many staright draws. turn completes 89 ofc but jam should be ok, starting stacks 60BBs so its all good

hero has KK in MP

hero raises to 1.50, BB calls

76Q
BB bets 3/4 pot, hero calls

T
BB bets 3/4 pot, hero shoves, call
Spoiler:
shows down QT



4 handed vs unknown

hero is btn with AQ

hero raises to 1.50, BB raises to 5, hero calls

J4Q
BB bets half pot, hero calls

6
BB jams 2x pot, hero
Spoiler:
calls


Spoiler:
river is the 2 of
Spoiler:


very gambly there, not sure we should call that often, obv he cant have AcX
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02-24-2018 , 07:07 PM
bankroll €1422

v nice session, some good run outs etc.

second pair good kicker spot

hero raises from CO with KT
bb calls

A4T
BB checks, hero bets 1/3 pot, BB calls

9
BB checks, hero checks

3
BB bets 3/4 pot, hero folds

I think with this line we need to ensure to have some Ax in our turn check back range which we should.
any thoughts?
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02-25-2018 , 12:44 AM
Kt is overfold but may be ok

If ur doing these small bets otf u need to x a lot ott... most of ur ax not just "some"

In theory anywa
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