Can I beat HU PLO?
I played some, studied a little bit. But I still feel very tired. I need to get back to my routine.
I am going to do some sports tomorrow. Will update when I get back. Too tired now.
Gn.
I am going to do some sports tomorrow. Will update when I get back. Too tired now.
Gn.
Good luck with that. Let us know how you like Visions if you decide to head that route.
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Anyway, I am getting back to the grind. Still not playing for too long. But I am definitely gonna grind hard, study hard and exercise hard tomorrow.
Today's session was very frustrating. I was experimenting with block bets, and I thought, that people might bluff raise them more often than bigger sizings... Well
I am too tired now. Will post the hands tomorrow.
Also, I had some beers yesterday, some wine today. It's definitely good for me. I feel tired and lazy as **** even when I drink small amounts. Yeah, but my sister is visiting, so whatever. And then it was Valentine... Gotta get sober asap.
Here are the hands where I lost the most EV yesterday:
PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (2 max) - Omaha Hi - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
SB: 131.16 BB
Hero (BB): 410.28 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 J A A
SB raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB calls 6 BB
Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) T K 6
Hero bets 12.82 BB, SB calls 12.82 BB
Turn: (43.64 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero bets 14.04 BB, SB calls 14.04 BB
River: (71.72 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero bets 17.56 BB, SB raises to 95.3 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 77.74 BB
PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (2 max) - Omaha Hi - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
SB: 100 BB
Hero (BB): 148.5 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 T 7 8
SB raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB calls 6 BB
Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) 2 7 8
Hero bets 5.7 BB, SB calls 5.7 BB
Turn: (29.4 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, SB bets 20 BB, Hero calls 20 BB
River: (69.4 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, SB bets 65.3 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 65.3 BB
PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (2 max) - Omaha Hi - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (SB): 347.22 BB
BB: 480.64 BB
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q 6 T 8
Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB
Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 6 4 9
BB checks, Hero bets 4.28 BB, BB raises to 15.5 BB, Hero calls 11.22 BB
Turn: (37 BB, 2 players) A
BB checks, Hero checks
River: (37 BB, 2 players) 5
BB checks, Hero bets 11.84 BB, BB raises to 63.68 BB, Hero calls 51.84 BB
PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (2 max) - Omaha Hi - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (SB): 148.02 BB
BB: 160.08 BB
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2 6 7 K
Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 6 BB
Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) K 9 5
BB bets 17.1 BB, Hero calls 17.1 BB
Turn: (52.2 BB, 2 players) 8
BB checks, Hero bets 38.02 BB, BB calls 38.02 BB
River: (128.24 BB, 2 players) Q
BB bets 95.96 BB and is all-in, fold
PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (2 max) - Omaha Hi - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
SB: 806.06 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 A T A
SB raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB calls 6 BB
Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) J 7 7
Hero checks, SB bets 10 BB, Hero calls 10 BB
Turn: (38 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, SB bets 21 BB, Hero raises to 81 BB and is all-in, SB calls 60 BB
River: (200 BB, 2 players) K
PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (2 max) - Omaha Hi - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
SB: 82.96 BB
Hero (BB): 142.26 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q J J 7
SB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 2 BB
Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) T K J
Hero checks, SB bets 5.7 BB, Hero calls 5.7 BB
Turn: (17.4 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, SB checks
River: (17.4 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero bets 5.5 BB, SB raises to 33.02 BB, Hero calls 27.52 BB
PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (2 max) - Omaha Hi - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (SB): 100.82 BB
BB: 107.7 BB
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 9 4 7
Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 6 BB
Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) 6 4 K
BB bets 5.64 BB, Hero calls 5.64 BB
Turn: (29.28 BB, 2 players) A
BB bets 22 BB, Hero calls 22 BB
River: (73.28 BB, 2 players) J
BB bets 71.06 BB and is all-in, fold
So, when I blockbet the river and they raise, I think it's safe to assume, that they are not bluffing or raising thin very often (if at all).
Then, if they bet the flop in 3b pot and they continue with bigger sizing ott, I think it's safe to assume, that it's quite value heavy line. Especially after I check to them.
I think, that T877 is a mistake. But do I really just call the hands that block the str8's? Then my range gets super narrow. But yeah, people underbluff, so even if I have 66 in my hand, my hands would be shaking and I'd still use my whole timebank.
K762 - the guy snap donk shoved the river. His line makes perfect sense for higher straight. I even block his busted heart draws... And I unblock J, T... So I made a fold (hopefully a good one). Again, people are unbelievably honest - and I have to remind myself of this all the time. I lost 4 BI's just with stupid river calls yesterday. I mean, it made sense to me, maybe it's even good in theory, but on low stakes... well I'd rather burn my money on fire.
9754 - not sure if I have enough equity to raise the flop here. He can still have better redraws than I do. But thing is, that my playability ott will not be great. Another thing is, that villain has all of the better FDs here and OPs, too.
But maybe I really miss a lot of chips with these passive lines... I mean I had pair+combo draw. It rarely get better than that. I should be flipping vs a naked top set otf here. Let me whether my assumption is correct.
Board: 6s4sKd
Equity Wins Ties
MP2: 46.06% 46.06% 0.00% { 9c4c7s5s }
MP3: 53.94% 53.94% 0.00% { KhKcAhTc }
So it's official. I made a huge mistake on the flop. Because I was scared of better FDs, lol.
Board: 6s4sKd
Equity Wins Ties
MP2: 27.62% 27.62% 0.00% { 9c4c7s5s }
MP3: 72.38% 72.38% 0.00% { KhKcAsTs }
I barely have 30 % vs better FDs...
But if I combine these 2 hands, I have around 36 %... So not really sure what to do. And his range is wider for sure. I am still not very good at hand reading.
And given the fact, the he uses the small sizing otf, he is definitely a thinking opponent.
PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (2 max) - Omaha Hi - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
SB: 131.16 BB
Hero (BB): 410.28 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 J A A
SB raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB calls 6 BB
Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) T K 6
Hero bets 12.82 BB, SB calls 12.82 BB
Turn: (43.64 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero bets 14.04 BB, SB calls 14.04 BB
River: (71.72 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero bets 17.56 BB, SB raises to 95.3 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 77.74 BB
Spoiler:
SB shows A 3 Q J (Straight, King High)
(Pre 32%, Flop 38%, Turn 80%)
Hero shows 7 J A A (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 68%, Flop 62%, Turn 20%)
SB wins 260.82 BB
(Pre 32%, Flop 38%, Turn 80%)
Hero shows 7 J A A (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 68%, Flop 62%, Turn 20%)
SB wins 260.82 BB
PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (2 max) - Omaha Hi - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
SB: 100 BB
Hero (BB): 148.5 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 T 7 8
SB raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB calls 6 BB
Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) 2 7 8
Hero bets 5.7 BB, SB calls 5.7 BB
Turn: (29.4 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, SB bets 20 BB, Hero calls 20 BB
River: (69.4 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, SB bets 65.3 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 65.3 BB
Spoiler:
SB shows A K 4 6 (Straight, Eight High)
(Pre 47%, Flop 16%, Turn 78%)
Hero shows 7 T 7 8 (Three of a Kind, Sevens)
(Pre 53%, Flop 84%, Turn 23%)
SB wins 198.5 BB
(Pre 47%, Flop 16%, Turn 78%)
Hero shows 7 T 7 8 (Three of a Kind, Sevens)
(Pre 53%, Flop 84%, Turn 23%)
SB wins 198.5 BB
PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (2 max) - Omaha Hi - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (SB): 347.22 BB
BB: 480.64 BB
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q 6 T 8
Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB
Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 6 4 9
BB checks, Hero bets 4.28 BB, BB raises to 15.5 BB, Hero calls 11.22 BB
Turn: (37 BB, 2 players) A
BB checks, Hero checks
River: (37 BB, 2 players) 5
BB checks, Hero bets 11.84 BB, BB raises to 63.68 BB, Hero calls 51.84 BB
Spoiler:
BB shows Q T A Q (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 73%, Flop 72%, Turn 83%)
Hero mucks Q 6 T 8 (Flush, Queen High)
(Pre 27%, Flop 28%, Turn 18%)
BB wins 162.86 BB
(Pre 73%, Flop 72%, Turn 83%)
Hero mucks Q 6 T 8 (Flush, Queen High)
(Pre 27%, Flop 28%, Turn 18%)
BB wins 162.86 BB
PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (2 max) - Omaha Hi - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (SB): 148.02 BB
BB: 160.08 BB
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2 6 7 K
Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 6 BB
Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) K 9 5
BB bets 17.1 BB, Hero calls 17.1 BB
Turn: (52.2 BB, 2 players) 8
BB checks, Hero bets 38.02 BB, BB calls 38.02 BB
River: (128.24 BB, 2 players) Q
BB bets 95.96 BB and is all-in, fold
Spoiler:
BB wins 126.74 BB
PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (2 max) - Omaha Hi - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
SB: 806.06 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 A T A
SB raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB calls 6 BB
Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) J 7 7
Hero checks, SB bets 10 BB, Hero calls 10 BB
Turn: (38 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, SB bets 21 BB, Hero raises to 81 BB and is all-in, SB calls 60 BB
River: (200 BB, 2 players) K
Spoiler:
Hero shows 5 A T A (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 59%, Flop 14%, Turn 20%)
SB shows 8 9 7 4 (Three of a Kind, Sevens)
(Pre 41%, Flop 86%, Turn 80%)
Hero wins 198.5 BB
(Pre 59%, Flop 14%, Turn 20%)
SB shows 8 9 7 4 (Three of a Kind, Sevens)
(Pre 41%, Flop 86%, Turn 80%)
Hero wins 198.5 BB
PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (2 max) - Omaha Hi - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
SB: 82.96 BB
Hero (BB): 142.26 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q J J 7
SB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 2 BB
Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) T K J
Hero checks, SB bets 5.7 BB, Hero calls 5.7 BB
Turn: (17.4 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, SB checks
River: (17.4 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero bets 5.5 BB, SB raises to 33.02 BB, Hero calls 27.52 BB
Spoiler:
SB shows A A 3 6 (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 70%, Flop 22%, Turn 13%)
Hero mucks Q J J 7 (Flush, King High)
(Pre 30%, Flop 78%, Turn 88%)
SB wins 81.94 BB
(Pre 70%, Flop 22%, Turn 13%)
Hero mucks Q J J 7 (Flush, King High)
(Pre 30%, Flop 78%, Turn 88%)
SB wins 81.94 BB
PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (2 max) - Omaha Hi - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (SB): 100.82 BB
BB: 107.7 BB
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 9 4 7
Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 6 BB
Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) 6 4 K
BB bets 5.64 BB, Hero calls 5.64 BB
Turn: (29.28 BB, 2 players) A
BB bets 22 BB, Hero calls 22 BB
River: (73.28 BB, 2 players) J
BB bets 71.06 BB and is all-in, fold
Spoiler:
BB wins 71.78 BB
So, when I blockbet the river and they raise, I think it's safe to assume, that they are not bluffing or raising thin very often (if at all).
Then, if they bet the flop in 3b pot and they continue with bigger sizing ott, I think it's safe to assume, that it's quite value heavy line. Especially after I check to them.
I think, that T877 is a mistake. But do I really just call the hands that block the str8's? Then my range gets super narrow. But yeah, people underbluff, so even if I have 66 in my hand, my hands would be shaking and I'd still use my whole timebank.
K762 - the guy snap donk shoved the river. His line makes perfect sense for higher straight. I even block his busted heart draws... And I unblock J, T... So I made a fold (hopefully a good one). Again, people are unbelievably honest - and I have to remind myself of this all the time. I lost 4 BI's just with stupid river calls yesterday. I mean, it made sense to me, maybe it's even good in theory, but on low stakes... well I'd rather burn my money on fire.
9754 - not sure if I have enough equity to raise the flop here. He can still have better redraws than I do. But thing is, that my playability ott will not be great. Another thing is, that villain has all of the better FDs here and OPs, too.
But maybe I really miss a lot of chips with these passive lines... I mean I had pair+combo draw. It rarely get better than that. I should be flipping vs a naked top set otf here. Let me whether my assumption is correct.
Board: 6s4sKd
Equity Wins Ties
MP2: 46.06% 46.06% 0.00% { 9c4c7s5s }
MP3: 53.94% 53.94% 0.00% { KhKcAhTc }
So it's official. I made a huge mistake on the flop. Because I was scared of better FDs, lol.
Board: 6s4sKd
Equity Wins Ties
MP2: 27.62% 27.62% 0.00% { 9c4c7s5s }
MP3: 72.38% 72.38% 0.00% { KhKcAsTs }
I barely have 30 % vs better FDs...
But if I combine these 2 hands, I have around 36 %... So not really sure what to do. And his range is wider for sure. I am still not very good at hand reading.
And given the fact, the he uses the small sizing otf, he is definitely a thinking opponent.
Nice bonus. Most sites I play on offer almost no rakeback. I think Pokerstars is almost the same unless you get these bonuses or are lucky enough to cash in a large chest.
The AAJ7ccc hand looks incredibly dubious
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Here are the hands where I lost the most EV yesterday:
PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (2 max) - Omaha Hi - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
SB: 131.16 BB
Hero (BB): 410.28 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 J A A
SB raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB calls 6 BB
Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) T K 6
Hero bets 12.82 BB, SB calls 12.82 BB
Turn: (43.64 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero bets 14.04 BB, SB calls 14.04 BB
River: (71.72 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero bets 17.56 BB, SB raises to 95.3 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 77.74 BB
PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (2 max) - Omaha Hi - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
SB: 131.16 BB
Hero (BB): 410.28 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 J A A
SB raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB calls 6 BB
Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) T K 6
Hero bets 12.82 BB, SB calls 12.82 BB
Turn: (43.64 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero bets 14.04 BB, SB calls 14.04 BB
River: (71.72 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero bets 17.56 BB, SB raises to 95.3 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 77.74 BB
Spoiler:
SB shows A 3 Q J (Straight, King High)
(Pre 32%, Flop 38%, Turn 80%)
Hero shows 7 J A A (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 68%, Flop 62%, Turn 20%)
SB wins 260.82 BB
(Pre 32%, Flop 38%, Turn 80%)
Hero shows 7 J A A (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 68%, Flop 62%, Turn 20%)
SB wins 260.82 BB
I definitely say x/r if OOP, but probably still a raise IP. Best to assume that you have flush blockers and then play your range accordingly, meaning you can pot many non-spade turns. You have a pair of 4s, too! The range you give villain, when calculating your AI equity, is very narrow!
I am just so **** tilted. I will update my month to date graph tomorrow. It's really disgusting. I mean, I play like a ****. There's no other way around that.
Also, I will reply to you guys tomorrow. I just can't think straight now. My body is on fire. **** this ****! I really need to improve my mental game a lot and also my game sux big time. So I really need to study more and play less (I just hate studying... but I really need to force myself)!
Also, I will reply to you guys tomorrow. I just can't think straight now. My body is on fire. **** this ****! I really need to improve my mental game a lot and also my game sux big time. So I really need to study more and play less (I just hate studying... but I really need to force myself)!
There's one player who has been getting black chests for 25k points (29.9 % rakeback. My silver chests are at 14.75k now (2.1 % rakeback). So if some one gets exclusive challenge (40 % rb) and also gets the best chests (29.9 % rb for black), that equals 69.9 % rakeback total, which is not bad at all. But yeah, I am pretty happy, that I've been getting exclusive challenges. I really don't know how many winning players are getting these good chests.
Anyway, I am BE player for now, so I expect better chests
I tend to overvalue my blockers and I block the nuts here (which I expect to be raising always). Or do I need JJ in my hand to call this off?
I agree, unless your sample is biased, but, yeah, I do see a pattern. Problem with block betting is that we we assume we look weak and therefore assume villain will bluff more. This is a mild dilemma, exploitatively. I don’t know if you can be more aware of when you plan to block/call v block/fold—trying to think of run outs where block/calling is better. Maybe when we unblock busted draws or block nuts, as a starting point?
And then, I don't want to be outplayed, which results in these weird river calls, that cost me a **** ton of money.
What you suggest sounds good, I will try it.
I definitely say x/r if OOP, but probably still a raise IP. Best to assume that you have flush blockers and then play your range accordingly, meaning you can pot many non-spade turns. You have a pair of 4s, too! The range you give villain, when calculating your AI equity, is very narrow!
I like to call a lot and I think that's also why I don't reach the showdown very often and my red line suffers. I am going to post the graphs and you will see what I mean.
You mean, that because of flush blockers, we can pot even on blanks, because there's a smaller chance, that villain has a FD? (I rather look stupid and ask )
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Anyway, here are the graphs for this month. I filtered for various positions and situations.
It's apparent that I am a huge fish.
All of the graphs are month to date.
3b IP:
3b OOP:
SB:
BB:
River call:
Overall:
I really don't know what to focus on first. But it's apparent that I su.ck OOP. And you can see how many stupid river calls I've made recently.
Then I am unbelievably weak in 3b pots. Maybe I call 3bets too wide preflop and then I get on the flop with weak range. Also, I might peel on the flop too loose and I am forced to fold ott.
Really, no area of my game is alright. Maybe SB, but even that doesn't look very promising. And it's always easier to make money IP.
So I really need to hit the lab hard, but really don't know where to start... Maybe preflop? Yeah, still not playing my hands 100 % accurately.
But that RED LINE, it's a shame! I really need to fix it.
Yeah, pool is underbluffing and they might be calling quite loose in certain spots, but that doesn't mean I can't make them fold!
Maybe I am also not aware of many spots, that I am supposed to stack off and I just call/fold... So yeah, this is really a learning lesson for me. Quite expensive, but it is what it is.
And rake paid: 1428 USD and I barely beat it. But I still believe it's possible. I learned like 0.01 % yet... But that red line I don't know whether I am supposed to laugh or cry.
Also, thank you for the inputs guys. You've helped me tremendously.
PS. Like the way you’re analysing your monthly results.
Sorry, I’m being a little fuzzy there. I mean that when villain has a nfd, you simply reduce his equity by holding two spades. Of course, the disadvantage is that you don’t unblock spades, or wraps for that matter, meaning that your FE on the turn mightn’t be as high you’d like, weighing him more to sets and two pair (but at least you have bottom pair). As played, villain’s 1/3 sizing on that kind of flop texture suggests to me he’s not nutted that often and that‘s why raise flop/pot turn is a decent line, as you can fold out a lot of Kxxx (the A on the turn is one I wouldn’t probably pot, however, after raising flop). Keep in my mind, these are just my suggestions and are exploitative in nature.
PS. Like the way you’re analysing your monthly results.
PS. Like the way you’re analysing your monthly results.
I still have this hold 'em mentality, which in fact, could make sense, as I hold 'em (the cards) 4 instead of 2. And this is the biggest difference between NLH and PLO imo - and I should use this to my advantage. I have good blockers, I bluff. I don't have very good blockers, I should still bluff on certain runouts (still trying to figure this out). But I start to notice, that people don't like to fold on paired boards (similar to hold 'em).
People don't raise turn/river with anything but strong hands 99 % of the time (very similar to hold 'em).
People are very honest and very uncreative (similar to hold 'em too).
So, I understand this, but apparently not enough. Because, when I am off the tables, I am aware of the fact, that people are underbluffing and very honest with their turn/river x/r. But then I start playing and I simply don't wanna be outplayed. Aha! I think I got it. I just don't wanna be outplayed and that's the reason why I make these spewy calldowns. Ok, maybe they'd make sense in theory, but in practice they are just very very very -EV.
Yes, I saw some river bluff raises. But it's maybe 3 players in the pool and Scandinavians who are capable of doing this. I am not even kidding, people from Northern Europe are very creative and tough to play against. Be it Finland, Sweden, Norway, Dennmark - they are very good players.
I was journaling for 15 minutes today and what you see above is what I realized (idk how to say this more properly, hopefully I am understood).
So here are the most spewy hands of today:
He reps super super super narrow range. I don't block the FHs, but how many of those does he have? 3bettor shouldn't have too many 33 and 44 in his range, same with 22.
It was against the guy from Finland who is very aggressive, so I figured - he is probably capable of pulling off a river bluff raise. Or is he?
PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (2 max) - Omaha Hi - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (SB): 252.64 BB
BB: 258.38 BB
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A 5 6 T
Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 6 BB
Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) 2 3 4
BB checks, Hero bets 5.7 BB, BB calls 5.7 BB
Turn: (29.4 BB, 2 players) 9
BB checks, Hero bets 27.92 BB, BB calls 27.92 BB
River: (85.24 BB, 2 players) 2
BB checks, Hero bets 27.92 BB, BB raises to 148.84 BB, Hero calls 120.92 BB
This is another one of my leaks - I am very optimistic and therefore I think, that people will fold even strong hands like trips, straights and so on... Well, well, well
Btw, I don't like to call in this spot. I either raise or fold. Don't see villain value betting some KK or QQ, that would be very very very thin.
Anyway, the river sizing induced me, too.
It was again vs the player who/whom I consider to be on a thinking side of the spectrum.
And my reasoning: I block some flushes and I block fullhouses heavily, even though I am not sure if this is relevant, as he won't have many 4s in his range...
And I was really, really, really convinced, that villain might play naked trips of As this way and that he is capable of folding it. Well
PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (2 max) - Omaha Hi - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (SB): 230.08 BB
BB: 130.52 BB
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 6 4 9
Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 6 BB
Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) A 4 4
BB bets 5.14 BB, Hero calls 5.14 BB
Turn: (28.28 BB, 2 players) J
BB bets 26.86 BB, Hero calls 26.86 BB
River: (82 BB, 2 players) A
BB bets 40.26 BB, Hero raises to 189.08 BB and is all-in, BB calls 49.26 BB and is all-in
This one is not spewy, it's just one of the hands that I lost quite a bit of EV.
I am not going to make the same mistake again. I don't see him raising worse flushes, so his range is very face up (imo). Unless I see, that he is capable of bluff raising with flush blocker, I am going to fold here all day.
No reads on villain, so I tank folded.
And when you look at my line: 75 %, pot, pot... I am super polarized here.
But there is still this feeling, that I got bluffed if you know what I mean and maybe I want to avoid this feeling so I rather call down in certain spots and they almost always have it
Question: what would be the lowest flush, that I can pot here? And then I block bet weaker flushes or half pot them? I am just curious, as I might be missing the value here. I mean, in this particular spot in general, not with this particular holding.
PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (2 max) - Omaha Hi - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (SB): 119.12 BB
BB: 200.16 BB
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6 2 9 Q
Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB
Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 8 5 3
BB checks, Hero bets 4.28 BB, BB calls 4.28 BB
Turn: (14.56 BB, 2 players) J
BB checks, Hero bets 13.84 BB, BB calls 13.84 BB
River: (42.24 BB, 2 players) A
BB checks, Hero bets 40.74 BB, BB raises to 162.96 BB, fold
Well, this happaned to me yesterday, so these spots are not the ones, where I can print EV. Or am I really supposed to fold otr? It'd make sense...
Maybe low stakes PLO is not about hero calling, but rather about hero folding
PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (2 max) - Omaha Hi - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (SB): 104.42 BB
BB: 119.16 BB
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2 9 7 6
Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB
Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 2 2 7
BB checks, Hero bets 1.9 BB, BB calls 1.9 BB
Turn: (9.8 BB, 2 players) 8
BB checks, Hero bets 7 BB, BB raises to 16 BB, Hero calls 9 BB
River: (41.8 BB, 2 players) 6
BB bets 40.3 BB, Hero calls 40.3 BB
Spoiler:
BB shows 3 3 8 8 (Full House, Eights full of Twos)
(Pre 65%, Flop 18%, Turn 98%)
Hero mucks 2 9 7 6 (Full House, Twos full of Sevens)
(Pre 35%, Flop 82%, Turn 3%)
BB wins 120.9 BB
(Pre 65%, Flop 18%, Turn 98%)
Hero mucks 2 9 7 6 (Full House, Twos full of Sevens)
(Pre 35%, Flop 82%, Turn 3%)
BB wins 120.9 BB
This is a mistake on the river, too.
He won't barrel naked trips and he has the better FDs and FHs in his range...
And again one of those spots, where villain raises flop and barrels. Unless I have a read, I should fold on the river. Even tho it hurts
PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (2 max) - Omaha Hi - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (SB): 126.14 BB
BB: 92.5 BB
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q 8 8 Q
Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB
Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) T J J
BB checks, Hero bets 1.9 BB, BB raises to 8.36 BB, Hero calls 6.46 BB
Turn: (22.72 BB, 2 players) 3
BB bets 14.68 BB, Hero calls 14.68 BB
River: (52.08 BB, 2 players) 4
BB bets 34.4 BB, Hero calls 34.4 BB
Spoiler:
BB shows A 3 J 2 (Full House, Jacks full of Threes)
(Pre 40%, Flop 58%, Turn 93%)
Hero mucks Q 8 8 Q (Flush, Queen High)
(Pre 60%, Flop 42%, Turn 8%)
BB wins 119.38 BB
(Pre 40%, Flop 58%, Turn 93%)
Hero mucks Q 8 8 Q (Flush, Queen High)
(Pre 60%, Flop 42%, Turn 8%)
BB wins 119.38 BB
Here I was like: I should be alright vs straight here with pair+combo draw... But no
Maybe it's a mistake ott once again. Even my turn bet could be a mistake, as I don't have a 7 in my hand. But I want to barrel some very strong draws, right?
Well, maybe something like QT, QJ would be better here, as I'd have the redraws... Ok, so I think, that bet is a mistake. And I'd probably get his whole stack otr (when I hit).
But even if he x/r otf, I am not folding (not otf yet).
So something to be aware of - that people are delay x/r nutted hands (probably).
Well, it seems that I have just 27.5 % vs naked 76... I thought I'd have more.
Board: 9hKc5s8s
Equity Wins Ties
MP2: 27.51% 24.99% 2.51% { 9s6sAsKd }
MP3: 72.49% 69.98% 2.51% { 7h6hQd2s }
So probably folding vs a turn raise? I spewed twice in this hand apparently.
PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (2 max) - Omaha Hi - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 194.7 BB
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 6 A K
Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB
Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 9 K 5
BB checks, Hero bets 4.28 BB, BB calls 4.28 BB
Turn: (14.56 BB, 2 players) 8
BB checks, Hero bets 13.84 BB, BB raises to 55.36 BB, Hero raises to 92.72 BB and is all-in, BB calls 37.36 BB
River: (200 BB, 2 players) 4
Players agreed to run it twice.
River #2: (200 BB, 2 players) 9
Spoiler:
BB shows 7 K K 2 (Flush, King High)
Board #1 (Pre 56%, Flop 96%, Turn 80%)
(Full House, Kings full of Nines)
Board #2 (Pre 57%, Flop 96%, Turn 82%)
Hero shows 9 6 A K (Flush, Ace High)
Board #1 (Pre 44%, Flop 4%, Turn 20%)
(Full House, Nines full of Kings)
Board #2 (Pre 43%, Flop 4%, Turn 18%)
Hero wins 99.26 BB
BB wins 99.24 BB
Board #1 (Pre 56%, Flop 96%, Turn 80%)
(Full House, Kings full of Nines)
Board #2 (Pre 57%, Flop 96%, Turn 82%)
Hero shows 9 6 A K (Flush, Ace High)
Board #1 (Pre 44%, Flop 4%, Turn 20%)
(Full House, Nines full of Kings)
Board #2 (Pre 43%, Flop 4%, Turn 18%)
Hero wins 99.26 BB
BB wins 99.24 BB
Is this stack off hand?
I am not sure if I can really c/c ott. I rather bet myself.
PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (2 max) - Omaha Hi - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
SB: 227.5 BB
Hero (BB): 118.82 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J A A 4
SB raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB calls 6 BB
Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) Q K 5
Hero bets 12.82 BB, SB calls 12.82 BB
Turn: (43.64 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero bets 42.14 BB, SB raises to 168.56 BB, Hero calls 54.86 BB and is all-in
River: (237.64 BB, 2 players) 8
I got million more hands, but these are the ones where I lost the most EV.
Going offline now, I might play some today, I might not. As I am going to spend the time with my GF (at her place). So I can't degen the whole time. And I really need to think about the spots even when I am not studying/playing - this helps tremendously. It's a mental training for me.
He reps super super super narrow range. I don't block the FHs, but how many of those does he have? 3bettor shouldn't have too many 33 and 44 in his range, same with 22.
It was against the guy from Finland who is very aggressive, so I figured - he is probably capable of pulling off a river bluff raise. Or is he?
It was against the guy from Finland who is very aggressive, so I figured - he is probably capable of pulling off a river bluff raise. Or is he?
Maybe it's a mistake ott once again. Even my turn bet could be a mistake, as I don't have a 7 in my hand. But I want to barrel some very strong draws, right?
Well, maybe something like QT, QJ would be better here, as I'd have the redraws... Ok, so I think, that bet is a mistake.
Well, maybe something like QT, QJ would be better here, as I'd have the redraws... Ok, so I think, that bet is a mistake.
Btw: In the the Qs9s6x2y hand, I’m guessing T high is still a pot IP, but I’m not 100% sure. My understanding is that we shouldn’t be betting small on rivers IP and need to be more polar. Having the 9s is a negative, here. I mean if you had Ts9s, for instance, that might not be a pot, compared to, say, Ts2s.
Hand 1 : I don't use 1/3 flop pot on this texture, definitely not this deep. Fold river, but gross spot.
Hand 2 : Call turn and fold river is fine, but can find turn folds if you have info
Hand 3 : Tough spot, I probably call and pray for bare As.
Hand 4 : wp
Hand 5 : Fold river, yes
Hand 6 : You're allowed to have non pot sizings on the turn. I'd prob have 10bb and call turn raise, just mix some stronger 67 for balance at your smaller sizings
Hand 7 : This is fine, wp.
Against the recs, don't worry about balance as much and use sizings that benifit your hand more than you would vs regs.
Hand 2 : Call turn and fold river is fine, but can find turn folds if you have info
Hand 3 : Tough spot, I probably call and pray for bare As.
Hand 4 : wp
Hand 5 : Fold river, yes
Hand 6 : You're allowed to have non pot sizings on the turn. I'd prob have 10bb and call turn raise, just mix some stronger 67 for balance at your smaller sizings
Hand 7 : This is fine, wp.
Against the recs, don't worry about balance as much and use sizings that benifit your hand more than you would vs regs.
Hi mate! GL with the challenge! I am a 50PLO 6max grinder and just now starting to work on my HU game. Would you like it if we create a discord group for low stakes HUPLO grinders?
Maybe it's because they can just bet big with their big hands and let go the weaker ones, because they are just one fold away from playing another opponent?
People in 6max zoom play tighter for sure, not sure if that's the case in HU zoom pool, too. Preflop, it depends. But postflop, I am still not sure in so many spots.
Agree you shouldn’t bet turn without the blocker. I like Villain’s line in this hand.
Btw: In the the Qs9s6x2y hand, I’m guessing T high is still a pot IP, but I’m not 100% sure. My understanding is that we shouldn’t be betting small on rivers IP and need to be more polar. Having the 9s is a negative, here. I mean if you had Ts9s, for instance, that might not be a pot, compared to, say, Ts2s.
Btw: In the the Qs9s6x2y hand, I’m guessing T high is still a pot IP, but I’m not 100% sure. My understanding is that we shouldn’t be betting small on rivers IP and need to be more polar. Having the 9s is a negative, here. I mean if you had Ts9s, for instance, that might not be a pot, compared to, say, Ts2s.
It's something, that it's hard to figure out (as I am not a poker genius), but when I think about it off the table, it becomes a second nature (kind of).
Hand 1 : I don't use 1/3 flop pot on this texture, definitely not this deep. Fold river, but gross spot.
Hand 2 : Call turn and fold river is fine, but can find turn folds if you have info
Hand 3 : Tough spot, I probably call and pray for bare As.
Hand 4 : wp
Hand 5 : Fold river, yes
Hand 6 : You're allowed to have non pot sizings on the turn. I'd prob have 10bb and call turn raise, just mix some stronger 67 for balance at your smaller sizings
Hand 7 : This is fine, wp.
Against the recs, don't worry about balance as much and use sizings that benifit your hand more than you would vs regs.
Hand 2 : Call turn and fold river is fine, but can find turn folds if you have info
Hand 3 : Tough spot, I probably call and pray for bare As.
Hand 4 : wp
Hand 5 : Fold river, yes
Hand 6 : You're allowed to have non pot sizings on the turn. I'd prob have 10bb and call turn raise, just mix some stronger 67 for balance at your smaller sizings
Hand 7 : This is fine, wp.
Against the recs, don't worry about balance as much and use sizings that benifit your hand more than you would vs regs.
Hand 1: ok, my bad. I thought, that if villain is supposed to bet these low str8 boards with smaller sizing, I am supposed to do the same. But yeah, I have a lot more draws, blockers, 2Ps, str8s, sets.
Hand 3: not sure if I was praying enough.
Hand 5: I am a ****ing station... still yeah, I should fold here vs most opponents, maybe actually always. I haven't seen many people getting creative on paired runouts.
Hand 6: So when you barrel, you usually use 2/3 sizings? Something like 50 %, 75 %, 100 %? Or are there any turns, where you would block bet? Let's say when hero is IP in SRP.
Anyway, I'll post the showdowns tomorrow. I don't wanna do anything poker related today (2p2 doesn't count haha).
Well, how can I say no to TheNextCumicon? Shoot me your Discord.
But beware, I am still a fish as you can see.
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Update for 22nd February:
Poker: day off
Exercise: 35 km cross country skiing (trying to activate the Beast Mode)
My name is : PLO_Master#6791
Another day off in poker today.
But I had another pretty full day in the mountains. This time I did skialp (not sure how to translate this into English) with 916 m ascent and 10 km distance (5 km ascent).
I love these days. Thing is, that I am completely exhausted when I get back home and I can't really grind. Because, yes, my mind is decluttered, but I just don't have enough energy to play my A game. And if my A game is break even for now... I can't really afford to play my C game yet
Alright, time to visit my GF now (their parents will be very happy I reckon) and I will stard to grind tomorrow again.
Cheers.
But I had another pretty full day in the mountains. This time I did skialp (not sure how to translate this into English) with 916 m ascent and 10 km distance (5 km ascent).
I love these days. Thing is, that I am completely exhausted when I get back home and I can't really grind. Because, yes, my mind is decluttered, but I just don't have enough energy to play my A game. And if my A game is break even for now... I can't really afford to play my C game yet
Alright, time to visit my GF now (their parents will be very happy I reckon) and I will stard to grind tomorrow again.
Cheers.
Fu.ck it, I scr3wed up again
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday - all of these days I was doing winter sports.
Monday: cross country skiing 35 km, 1300 m ascent (with 10 kgs in my backpack, I almost died in the end)
Tuesday: skialp 10 km, 916 m ascent (basically you go on your skis uphill with special things on the bottom of your skis, and I am really not sure how is this called in English)
Wednesday: skialp 17 km, 1000 m ascent (I will ask for exact numbers later)
So I haven't played any of these days. And today I will go biking. So I really need a schedule. Because I feel sore, but my mind is clear and ready to execute.
But without schedule I won't be able to put in enough hours and my physical activity will suffer, too.
Anyway, I need to put a lot more study in. As my approach is holding me back.
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday - all of these days I was doing winter sports.
Monday: cross country skiing 35 km, 1300 m ascent (with 10 kgs in my backpack, I almost died in the end)
Tuesday: skialp 10 km, 916 m ascent (basically you go on your skis uphill with special things on the bottom of your skis, and I am really not sure how is this called in English)
Wednesday: skialp 17 km, 1000 m ascent (I will ask for exact numbers later)
So I haven't played any of these days. And today I will go biking. So I really need a schedule. Because I feel sore, but my mind is clear and ready to execute.
But without schedule I won't be able to put in enough hours and my physical activity will suffer, too.
Anyway, I need to put a lot more study in. As my approach is holding me back.
In all respect and friendliness, it doesn't seem like you're all that motivated to do this. You seem far less motivated than before, at least.
I don't say this to shame you at all; just to be an outside voice asking "hey, is this actually important to you anymore?"
If it isn't, that's nothing to feel bad about. But if it isn't, maybe having clarity about that would help you to, like, live your best life, you know?
I don't say this to shame you at all; just to be an outside voice asking "hey, is this actually important to you anymore?"
If it isn't, that's nothing to feel bad about. But if it isn't, maybe having clarity about that would help you to, like, live your best life, you know?
Yeah, you are right.
I am scared to play, because my roll is very tiny and I apparently su.ck in this game still.
So I am very anxious and I rather procrastinate. I need to face my fears.
If I bust, so what... I can still rebuild.
But I also feel very tired and unmotivated when I play...
So I won't update unless I put serious volume in. Because it's become more of a gym blog ffs.
I am scared to play, because my roll is very tiny and I apparently su.ck in this game still.
So I am very anxious and I rather procrastinate. I need to face my fears.
If I bust, so what... I can still rebuild.
But I also feel very tired and unmotivated when I play...
So I won't update unless I put serious volume in. Because it's become more of a gym blog ffs.
Apparently still can't beat the game.
I HATE studying. Any ideas how to overcome this?
I know, that studying will sharpen my game, but it just **** boring it's unreal.
I love poker and almost everything realted to it, BUT studying haha. Maybe mental issue here?
I HATE studying. Any ideas how to overcome this?
I know, that studying will sharpen my game, but it just **** boring it's unreal.
I love poker and almost everything realted to it, BUT studying haha. Maybe mental issue here?
Studying can be boring if you feel that it wont apply to your situation. Maybe take a specific spot and get input from others and see if that improves your interest.
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