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08-02-2010 , 10:44 AM
Some of you will say that this is the story of two lunatics. We think it’s the story of two ballsy kids... But only time will tell.



This is an open letter to the owners of Pokerstars and Full tilt Poker, and an invitation to all of you who play poker online.



We are two 21 year old university students. We play poker relatively often, and are winners at micro/small stakes. We have many innovative ideas for the world of online poker. Ideas so great we are ready to propose the following to Pokerstars, Full Tilt Poker and all the poker community:

• We would like to help one of the two above site to increase its benefits by 20% above the current growth rate from one year to another, in one year.
(i.e. if the benefit growth rate from 2008 to 2009 was 5% and the growth rate from 2009 to 2010 was 7%, we guarantee that the growth rate from 2010 to 2011 will be of 22% (7%-5% + 20%).

• We would like to recreate the “poker boom” of 2003, when poker was well alive, enjoyable, and most importantly, very profitable.




To achieve such a goal, we will require a few things from Pokerstars, Full Tilt Poker, and all of you guys. Here are the conditions of this deal:

• We will work for free for a year. No salary, No bonus. Nothing.

• We will require a decent and reasonable amount of resources (staff, time and money) and commitment from Pokerstars or Full Tilt Poker during the whole year to implement our ideas. These resources will always be assets of Pokerstars or Full Tilt Poker.


If we do achieve the goal, the site that has chosen to consider our ideas will accept to give us 5% of all the benefits of the site, each year (2.5% each).

However, if we do not reach the goal, we will quit the team if the site wishes so, and leave behind all of the innovation we will have successfully implemented, or that we are in the process of implementing.

This is a truly win/win situation for everyone, and there not much at risk and very little to lose.



In order to be heard by Pokerstars and Full Tilt Poker, we will need your help, a lot of it (and tolerance from the forum admins). Here is what you can do to help, and it won’t take more than a few seconds. Let’s consider this thread a proof of your support and your interests in seeing us succeed. If you wish to give a hand, all you have to do is to reply in this thread saying this (by doing so, you will have signed our virtual petition):

“I, _________ (your screen name on 2 + 2), support Barrack Omaha and Busy Guy 89, and hope Pokerstars and/or Full Tilt Poker accept to hear their ideas.”

Now you may begin to tell yourself “either these guys are nuts, or they really are confident in what they are planning to do, but why should I help out two strangers anyways?”

Here is why:

• If we succeed, we will bring poker 7 years back, in those bright times when poker was well alive.

• If we succeed, we wish to generously give back to the poker community that has supported us by giving away, each year, 100 one thousand US dollar poker bankrolls, free. That free $1000 will be distributed randomly to 100 lucky players that will have signed our petition, in between the time we posted this thread on the 2 + 2 forums and the moment either Pokerstars or Full Tilt Poker decides to work with us.

No, this is not a bluff. Not even a semi-bluff. And yes, we are men of our word.

If Pokerstars is interested and wishes to contact us, they can do so by sending a message to the e-mail address linked to the account “St0rmin Norm”.

If Full Tilt Poker is interested and wishes to contact us, they can do so by sending a message to the e-mail address linked to the account “storm ftw”.

If any of the two poker site is interested into our projects and ideas, we will update you guys frequently right here on this thread, to let you know how we are doing in this challenge.

We are ready to fly anywhere, almost anytime, to meet the owners of Pokerstars or Full Tilt Poker and pitch our ideas.

Please respect this thread. We are dead serious about everything we are saying. If we win, everybody wins. So please, support us and make this thing snowball!


Thanks again, and good luck at the tables.

Yours truly,

Barrack Omaha and Busy Guy 89
08-02-2010 , 11:02 AM
Whats that stuff you are smoking?
08-02-2010 , 11:07 AM
I simply believe in myself enough to dream about doing great things. And I believe that when people get together behind something, anything is possible.
08-02-2010 , 11:09 AM
is this the type of thread where someone asks you what exactly your ideas are and then you just give vague feel-good expressions about change?
08-02-2010 , 11:13 AM
No, we can't speak about our ideas here and now for obvious reasons. However, if enough people support us, perhaps we will draw enough attention that Pokerstars or Full Tilt Poker will take some time to hear us. It doesn't take very long, and can make a big difference.
08-02-2010 , 11:25 AM
Why do you expect someone to support you when you won't even tell us what you're planning on doing? Seems valid, no?
08-02-2010 , 11:26 AM
I, FiNaL WaRRR, thinks Barrack Omaha and Busy Guy 89 are crazy, FTP or Stars would never give 5% of their revenue.
08-02-2010 , 11:33 AM
roflbtc.
08-02-2010 , 11:35 AM
With a few innovative ideas, we will recreate (maybe not as big) the 2003 poker boom, where millions of people started to play online. More precisely, we will inject an enormous amount of new players. We will also contribute to give the great game of poker the respect it deserves from society. For too long have poker players been seen has gamblers and not skilled and talented people, that use their brains to make a living. We wish to change all that, with your support, and a bit of positivity.
08-02-2010 , 11:36 AM
Ideas don't mean ****. No one is going to pay 5% for your ideas. If you really want this to happen, make it happen first and THEN pitch it to FT/PS.
08-02-2010 , 11:40 AM
innovative ideas? there is no idea that is going to change the poker world... i believe full tilt had a new idea... rush poker and honestly i think it's terrible for the poker world because bad players lost their money like 10x faster thus eliminating fish from the game at a faster rate
08-02-2010 , 11:41 AM
From a business man standpoint, We are offering to try and boost their income, for free. If we succeed, they will have to give us 5%, but they will have made close to 15% more themselves. If we fail, they dont give us anything and keep our ideas.
08-02-2010 , 11:49 AM
wat
08-02-2010 , 12:19 PM
is the epic prop bet about how long it takes for this thread to either get

a) no responses after 20 posts and op bumping it from time to time

b) 87 pages of lols @ op
08-02-2010 , 12:24 PM
a) because its in this forum

would be b) if it was in bbv/ nvg
08-02-2010 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Barrack Omaha
This is a truly win/win situation for everyone, and there not much at risk and very little to lose.
ehhh... wrong!

You ask them to invest time and money through giving you access to their teams of workers + they have to take plenty of risk by implementing "innovative" ideas from you two that in the short and long term can hurt/alter/diminish their image and business concepts if it's not alongside the long term vision and mision statements of the company's (which you definitely don't know the half truth of). So YOU don't risk much. THEY do!

You guys might be smart and all, but tbh in business life turning up to an innovation board wearing a suit, having a kick ass presentation with both top and bottom line growth as key point is the one way to go about having major coorporations spend they're $$ and time on any kinds of innovations. A prop bet (wtf??) thread on 2+2 with petition is not however...

So, my humble advice to you two guys would be to suit up, get in a car, drive to the head offices, get a meeting and present your ideas (oh; and post in thread 1 year from now with w/e you achieved together with either FT or PS).

If you don't belive in your ideas enough to spend that kind of travelling money and/ or have enough good ideas and dedication to be able to get in touch with the right ppl at these two companies and being allowed to give the boards a presentation you might as well just let this thread die out too..

Best regards
Alex
08-02-2010 , 12:49 PM
All right since it's a freeroll...

“I, niksheridan, support Barrack Omaha and Busy Guy 89, and hope Pokerstars and/or Full Tilt Poker accept to hear their ideas.”

Since I'll be the only one writting this, just give me the 1000$ now

EDIT : ALL RIGHT I'M A BELIEVER ! I'M READY TO HELP !
08-02-2010 , 02:17 PM
“I, MaxChart, support Barrack Omaha and Busy Guy 89, and hope Pokerstars and/or Full Tilt Poker accept to hear their ideas.”

GL with this, I personnaly don't think it's as crazy as people think.

You might have to rework the numbers, tho.
08-02-2010 , 02:30 PM
“I, kjbeatyou33, support Barrack Omaha and Busy Guy 89, and hope Pokerstars and/or Full Tilt Poker accept to hear their ideas.”

I fully believe this will work and have the upmost confidence in you. This is exactly what poker has been waiting for Barrack Omaha and Busy Guy 89 how could you wish for 2 greater people ?

Major poker sites would be foolish to turn this down OMG WTF GTFO
08-02-2010 , 02:41 PM
Im lost for words
08-02-2010 , 03:00 PM
Get a life OP,and start with getting a Job if you suck at teh pokerz
08-02-2010 , 03:03 PM
This is not the biggest prop bet ever imo
08-02-2010 , 04:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by theplux
wat
THEPLUX HAS SPOKEN
08-02-2010 , 04:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexnorge
You ask them to invest time and money through giving you access to their teams of workers + they have to take plenty of risk by implementing "innovative" ideas from you two that in the short and long term can hurt/alter/diminish their image and business concepts if it's not alongside the long term vision and mision statements of the company's (which you definitely don't know the half truth of). So YOU don't risk much. THEY do!
I do not ask them to invest blindly into our projects. We will present our ideas, in detail, with proper implementation plans and documentation. If they conclude that there is significative value in implementing these projects, we will lead the team that will do so, during a year, working for free.
08-02-2010 , 04:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexnorge

If you don't belive in your ideas enough to spend that kind of travelling money and/ or have enough good ideas and dedication to be able to get in touch with the right ppl at these two companies and being allowed to give the boards a presentation you might as well just let this thread die out too..

Best regards
Alex
In fact, I have both the money to travel and the trust in my ideas, but this thread is all part of a bigger plan. We need this thread to live, and to be successful.
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