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Old 03-27-2019, 12:54 PM   #126
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

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what's rocketscience about that? reading/watching something you don't care / can't remember the next day is just wasting time, not actual studiing.
It's more the fact he tries to learn, but still loses so badly. Normally big losers like this don't put in any effort into educating themselves.
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Old 03-27-2019, 01:40 PM   #127
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It's more the fact he tries to learn
He's not trying to learn. He has yet to admit that he's bad at poker. He constantly says nonsensical things about getting unlucky which shows he making excuses more than trying to learn as can be seen by this in his second to last post:
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That is only thing that keeps my believe up that this is maybe the game of skill due the very hard suckout times.
The guy's just a straight up gambling addict as can be seen by this next post:

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You can check from very first post that it's almost -9k on nl2. I don't know how much money you have and what is big or small amount to you but to me that's huge amount. It has taken years to get such savings. Nl2 needs at least $100 to play with healthy bankroll. It's big money when you have to fight with other expenses.
OP, you suck at poker and you don't have the attitude to not suck at it. Move on.

Also, SpinMe, you have 5 more posts itt than OP. Admirable work you're doing in here with him. Kudos.
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Old 03-27-2019, 01:57 PM   #128
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

What country do you live in? Why do you not get a job instead? 100% of jobs would get you your 16k back faster than a game you do not beat and most likely never will.
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Old 03-27-2019, 02:17 PM   #129
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He's not trying to learn. He has yet to admit that he's bad at poker. He constantly says nonsensical things about getting unlucky which shows he making excuses more than trying to learn as can be seen by this in his second to last post:
Even though he does the complete opposite of what the training material/forums say, he is at least seeking it out. That's what I find slightly perplexing about the whole situation.

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What country do you live in? Why do you not get a job instead? 100% of jobs would get you your 16k back faster than a game you do not beat and most likely never will.
Finland I believe.
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Old 03-27-2019, 03:08 PM   #130
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look at this point for you to become a winning player its going to take nothing short of a miracle. you even seem to take pride in that your the biggest loser in online poker i know a lot of people see you as a legend of sors. if poker is the only thing you like to do that is fine but then your game needs to be fixed and you have got to start listening. dont buy into training sites because you dont need to know that type of strategy to beat nl2 they teach all this complex stuff about GTO and bet sizing and all this **** that is of no use to you you need to learn how to play solid ABC poker and that is your starting point.

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Old 03-27-2019, 03:57 PM   #131
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Guys, there is a zero percent chance that a person capable of losing almost $10k at 2NL lol is *ever* going to get better no matter what you say to him. You are just wasting your time. imo
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Old 03-27-2019, 04:02 PM   #132
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I found some old footage of OP playing NL2 on FTP.

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Old 03-27-2019, 08:29 PM   #133
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Guys, there is a zero percent chance that a person capable of losing almost $10k at 2NL lol is *ever* going to get better no matter what you say to him. You are just wasting your time. imo

this. And I hope OPs keep losing more tbh. Better for all nl2 players that are actually trying to grind their way

Sorry not sorry OP.
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Old 03-31-2019, 06:36 AM   #134
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you didn't even acknowledge you made a bad play when you shoved 100bb with K3. that's pathetic.
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posting hands is not going to help you when you just shove all in 100bb w/ hands like K4o that is just a terrible play and a spot you should never be in.
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Translation: I will ignore the 100 times I jammed **** like K3 for 100BB in the past 20 mins and cherry pick a standard cooler hand.
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I want to see all the times you tilt-shove 100bb with K3/Q6 and other garbage.
That K3 suited hand was the result of past events. Guy on big blind called all my raises on button, small blind and from big blind. Then he called all bets on flops and on many turns too. He did it mainly with air. You must do something to prevent them from running over you.

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The guy's just a straight up gambling addict as can be seen by this next post:
I'm a bad player, but suckouts which I confront on tables are truly brutal. When you see so many hits on river from guy with 15% equity your faith is really on test.

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What country do you live in? Why do you not get a job instead? 100% of jobs would get you your 16k back faster than a game you do not beat and most likely never will.
It wouldn't be the same thing. Even if I had the best job in the world and good income I would still be $16k down to poker.

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I found some old footage of OP playing NL2 on FTP.
Never played on FTP. Almost all hands on party, little bit on everest way back and ongame site called europoker. The last went to bankruptcy and I got the feeling that there would be $100 my money. I tried to get in touch with them, but never succeeded.
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Old 03-31-2019, 10:15 AM   #135
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That K3 suited hand was the result of past events. Guy on big blind called all my raises on button, small blind and from big blind. Then he called all bets on flops and on many turns too. He did it mainly with air. You must do something to prevent them from running over you.
Yeah, but that something is not shoving every hand for 100bb preflop. That strategy has lost you $16k already, so clearly it isn't working.
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Old 03-31-2019, 10:23 AM   #136
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I'm a bad player, but suckouts which I confront on tables are truly brutal. When you see so many hits on river from guy with 15% equity your faith is really on test.
That has 0 to do with what you quoted from me. To be clear, my faith isn't "on test", yours is. I handle beats like an adult because I know the long run exists and I have confidence in my play. Stop tilting like a toddler who doesn't get his way.
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Old 03-31-2019, 12:57 PM   #137
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I find it really interesting to see how the mind of a true degenerate works, keep it going guys I want to see him reply some more
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Old 03-31-2019, 01:11 PM   #138
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I find it really interesting to see how the mind of a true degenerate works, keep it going guys I want to see him reply some more
Best way to stop people exploiting you one way is to give them a better way of exploiting you ldo.
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Old 03-31-2019, 01:36 PM   #139
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That K3 suited hand was the result of past events. Guy on big blind called all my raises on button, small blind and from big blind. Then he called all bets on flops and on many turns too. He did it mainly with air. You must do something to prevent them from running over you.
You are jamming any two cards for 100bb+ in order to win 1.5BB. You see nothing wrong with that despite losing a fortune at 2nl. You are LITERALLY mentally retarded.
Most developed countries provide help for retarded people, so maybe you can test your IQ and get a boost to your "income". I would bet a few hundred 2nl buyins that you have the potential to score in the bottom 10% of a standardized test.
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Old 03-31-2019, 02:08 PM   #140
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That K3 suited hand was the result of past events. Guy on big blind called all my raises on button, small blind and from big blind. Then he called all bets on flops and on many turns too. He did it mainly with air. You must do something to prevent them from running over you.



I'm a bad player, but suckouts which I confront on tables are truly brutal. When you see so many hits on river from guy with 15% equity your faith is really on test.



It wouldn't be the same thing. Even if I had the best job in the world and good income I would still be $16k down to poker.



Never played on FTP. Almost all hands on party, little bit on everest way back and ongame site called europoker. The last went to bankruptcy and I got the feeling that there would be $100 my money. I tried to get in touch with them, but never succeeded.
i genuinely made account just to reply, dude im fish, tilt monkey like you, your post thread actually inspired me to check my cashier net deposits withdrawals tally it all up on the sites ive played blackjack, roulette, poker and done sports bets on worked out im down somewhere between 7703-8640 lol mix of dollar euro pound sites.
one difference i do think i possibly have compared to you is i dont give too much of a sh*t, yes i play underolled and stakes too high, yes i tilt like a nutcase when i do tilt, and sometimes i play like a nut for the lols.
but that I think is the difference, even if initially i was tilting and pissed off 80% of the time it subsides and i still spunk off my money continue playing but i have a good time doing so some of my most fun sessions have been biggest losing ones lol (sadly lot of time have more fun than i do when im playing seriously, implementing strategies ive come up with for certain people).
yh i still have fun, its no small sum ive lost now and im definitely not a wealthy person, dirt poor honestly, but i still dont regret it, maybe cause its given to me in other ways killed my boredom given me a buzz at times got me out of my head at others ha, im pretty lonely pathetic dude so lotta of ways and reasons its been a welcome time killer distraction, from my ****ty existence ha. but just me im not overly bitter about my losses think biggest way theyve bothered me is when im broke broke and literally dont have a penny to my name to even eat with let alone gamble those periods hurt, not during while its happening but after when the realization of what i stupidly done sets in ha dont be like me ha.

ANYWAY YOUVE LOST YOUR LOVE OF THE GAME OR GAMBLING ! SO STOP ! IF YOUR CHASING LOSSES SOUND PISSED OFF YOU GOTTA QUIT DUDE FOR YOUR OWN SANITY!

1) YOU GOT EMOTIONAL CONTROL ISSUES,TILT LIKE MAD FROM SOUNDS OF IT SO EVEN IF YOU HAD BEST STRATEGY IN WORLD AND HAD THE SKILLS TO ADAPT TO ALL OPPOSITION CORRECTLY, MEANS **** ALL IF YOU CANT IMPLEMENT IT AND TILT OFF ALL POTENTIAL EDGE/PROFITS AND SOME!

2) I THINK YOU MIGHT JUST HAVE REAL **** UNDERSTANDING OF POKER... AND BE INCAPABLE OF CREATING IMPLEMENTING PROFITABLE STRATEGIES, HAVE FEELING YOUR MIND MIGHT NOT BE BUILT TO EVER BE GOOD PROFITABLE REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOUR TAUGHT (I HONESTLY DONT MEAN THAT IN AN INSULTING WAY EITHER, EVEN THOUGH IT COMES OFF AS SO).

3) YOU GOT BIG EGO DUDE FROM SOUND OF IT STOP GIVING A **** IF PEOPLE ARE EXPLOITING YOU IN SPOTS PARTICULARLY MARGINAL/BREAKEVEN SPOTS WHERE WITH RAKE INCLUDED BECOMES LOSING SPOT, POKERS ABOUT EXPLOITING ITS BIT OF GIVE AND TAKE BACK AND FORTH YOU EXPLOIT THEY EXPLOIT, JUST FOCUS PLAYING THE BIG POTS WELL (TURNS,RIVERS AND 3B POTS)

4) AS FOR THE SUCKOUTS **** HAPPENS.... HONESTLY IF CANT DEAL WITH THAT DONT ALTERNATIVELY KEEP ALL POTS RELATIVELY SMALL TILL THE RIVER REGARDLESS OF STRENGTH OF HAND ON EARLIER STREETS SO EITHER UTILISE SMALLER VALUE BETS OR ADD MORE CHECKS ITS EXPLOITABLE BUT SO WHAT IMPOSSIBLE TO BE UNEXPLOITABLE ANYWAY, AND RIVERS JUST BET APPROPRIATELY FOR VALUE OR BLUFF OR CHECK BACK (HINT PEOPLE CALL RIVER RAISES AND C/R LIGHT LOW STAKES, SO JUST CAUSE YOU DIDNT BET A BEAST HEAVIER EARLIER STREETS DONT MEAN YOU CAN MILK VALUE ELSEWHERE)

good luck only continue to play if enjoy it, if dont ban yourself and stop, even just only allow live pub tournies to get your gambling fix without it getting out of hand being there cheap and only few places likely doing em near you.

anyway cheers for your honest post thread gave me the much needed prod to look into my own hole see how deep it goes ha, prompted me to ban myself from casino games now too so cheers. might even attempt a poker bankroll challenge of my own (maybe we can keep each other accountable stop each other tilting so much or playing too high up).

gl dude peace out, least you know your not alone in the gambling losses department ha

think need to add this DONT PLAY FOR THE MONEY!, its completely possible your not even capable of being longterm profitable sadly even if did fix tilt issues (maybe 2nl-16nl you could beat but honestly doubt any higher you just give off that vibe, so grinding out that 16k doable but gonna take a bloody while at 10-16nl).
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Old 03-31-2019, 02:32 PM   #141
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here the thing the mind can change though. all a thought or action is an impulse the brain goes into autopilot and continues this same impulses to a lose a hand and get mad is impulse. to react and shove all in on tilt is an impulse. when you feel this recognize it and do something opposite of what auto pilot brain wants. youll then gain control and rewire your impulses to where they're less felt, or you can control them.

its like therapy of overcoming a fear the moment you go to a new height and your scared of heights the impulse take control you start to panic the blood pressure may rise slightly anxiety chemicals may release into brain and your impulse is to immediately get down from said height. this is auto pilot. now lets say you go to height expecting to take control of the situation the moment you start to panic you recognize it you do something like breath or laugh it off and stay up there your taking control of hte physical. now do this 100 times through and next thing u kno heights arent as much an issue for you. but it took work.

no impulse can be controlled w/out stepping out of auto pilot then training ur brain.
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Old 03-31-2019, 02:39 PM   #142
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it sounds like open shoving isn't a tilt impulse though, it's like he believes its the correct play
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Old 03-31-2019, 02:45 PM   #143
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Definitely not playing tournaments. There's no live cash available here. If I want to play it would require travelling to capital, booking hotel room and going to the casino where the smallest stake is nl100. I really think that is not the option. I really think that plo is no option either. Jumping to the different game after losing this much sounds very bad idea. Let's stick with nl holdem and nl2, nl5 and little bit of nl10.



Why? And do you mean those situations when guy has stealed, called reraise and called on flop 3 times a row and then 4th time he has KK? Please keep in mind there's usually something happened before on table that leads these kind of situations. And btw I have lost to Ax many times with KK and also lost with Ax to Qhigh, Jhigh and even to 74s multiple times.
your adjusting wrong and over adjusting too where its unnecessary, stop that i know im not one to talk but pre raise for value, play tight out blinds oop, postflop only bet if hit or got a draw fd, oesd, gs+over, fd+overs dont pure bluff semibluff value bet or just check give up try get showdown cheap if hit something turn. basically quit playing with ego think about the pot odds on calls bluffs, dont get in levelling ego wars and trust the math, playing just like that should make you win breakeven aslong as your assessing your chance in hand correctly, people pay off micros so really dont even think pure bluffings necessary, shipping a6o is just silly dont even raise it (plays **** post you hit c tp odd trips and odd 2p and 1c sd and fds your basically forced to bluff post always or pot control excessively play it weak)
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Old 03-31-2019, 02:53 PM   #144
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your adjusting wrong and over adjusting too where its unnecessary, stop that i know im not one to talk but pre raise for value, play tight out blinds oop, postflop only bet if hit or got a draw fd, oesd, gs+over, fd+overs dont pure bluff semibluff value bet or just check give up try get showdown cheap if hit something turn. basically quit playing with ego think about the pot odds on calls bluffs, dont get in levelling ego wars and trust the math, playing just like that should make you win breakeven aslong as your assessing your chance in hand correctly, people pay off micros so really dont even think pure bluffings necessary, shipping a6o is just silly dont even raise it (plays **** post you hit c tp odd trips and odd 2p and 1c sd and fds your basically forced to bluff post always or pot control excessively play it weak)
strategy talk is not going to help op at this time. he said he read books and joined training sites im sure they gave him ample enough strategy to beat micros but he clearly didnt use what was said.

what imho he need do is record the sessions and put htem on youtube he may learn from watching nad having honest feedback in comment section. he could even become the next biggest poker youtuber becuase im sure his content would be quite hilarious to watch. may even offset his losses.
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Old 03-31-2019, 05:16 PM   #145
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Hahaha OP is the GOAT troll, you guys are getting owned
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Old 03-31-2019, 05:34 PM   #146
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OMG..what a sick thread...I have thought I am losing big at PL0100 but THIS guy is losing more at NL2 and NL5...mindblowing if true.
OP listen: I know how it feels to be a losing player..I know how it feels to get bad beats over and over again (I am running actually -45 buy ins UNDER EV.)
I know how it feels to get f*** in every big pot and NOT winning...I know how it feels trying and not winning, trying and not winning, trying and not winning..every year the same s***over and over again.
I know how it feels start tilting and lose control...
Losing control is propably one of the BIGGEST LEAKS losing player have..Than if you lose control you are trying to gamble and gamble and gamble but it doesn't work...Its -EV over and over again. You can't win by gambling in the long run, no one can.
Poker is propably one of the sickest games in the world..it makes human crazy..Poker is a game where if you going to lose you control, you can't stop and you going to lose over and over again you lose and lose and can't stop losing...
So if you want be successful at poker you have to have the right ability BUT it only works with the right mindset and losing players like you and me don't have it..The don't get it, no matter how hard you try you will always be a losing player because you CAN'T WIN at this game ever. Never ever. Forget it!!
YOU don't have the right mindset...
We can't accept that we have to learn the game.. ..but losing player have no ability to learn the game in the right manner.They just can't win because of this..and if you can't learn you get over and over f**** in ths game.

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Old 03-31-2019, 09:23 PM   #147
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OMG..what a sick thread...I have thought I am losing big at PL0100 but THIS guy is losing more at NL2 and NL5...mindblowing if true.
OP listen: I know how it feels to be a losing player..I know how it feels to get bad beats over and over again (I am running actually -45 buy ins UNDER EV.)
I know how it feels to get f*** in every big pot and NOT winning...I know how it feels trying and not winning, trying and not winning, trying and not winning..every year the same s***over and over again.
I know how it feels start tilting and lose control...
Losing control is propably one of the BIGGEST LEAKS losing player have..Than if you lose control you are trying to gamble and gamble and gamble but it doesn't work...Its -EV over and over again. You can't win by gambling in the long run, no one can.
Poker is propably one of the sickest games in the world..it makes human crazy..Poker is a game where if you going to lose you control, you can't stop and you going to lose over and over again you lose and lose and can't stop losing...
So if you want be successful at poker you have to have the right ability BUT it only works with the right mindset and losing players like you and me don't have it..The don't get it, no matter how hard you try you will always be a losing player because you CAN'T WIN at this game ever. Never ever. Forget it!!
YOU don't have the right mindset...
We can't accept that we have to learn the game.. ..but losing player have no ability to learn the game in the right manner.They just can't win because of this..and if you can't learn you get over and over f**** in ths game.
Interesting... So you think some people are basically destined to fail at poker because of their incorrect mindset? I can see where you're coming from... It really is a brutal game, not for everyone for sure.
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Old 03-31-2019, 09:58 PM   #148
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OP should write a book, Crushed by the Microstakes. With the royalties, he would be able to increase his bankroll and move up to where they respect his raises. Win win.
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Old 04-01-2019, 04:29 AM   #149
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U need to wager 16k at 2nl to win 16k op.

Take 6 months away. See if u.want to play again. If you want to win 16k bk ur better off grinding micro mtts.

U will have a better chance of winning
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Old 04-01-2019, 04:25 PM   #150
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Horrible start for april. I played 4,5 hours 3.1k hands and lost almost 50 buy ins. This is really frustrating. Every month I hope this will turn in the right direction but on same bull**** every time. The goal was to make a profit this month, but now it's all again hunting those money back from first session.



partypoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 3 players

Paisting (BU): $4.90 (245 bb)
Player5 (SB): $2.00 (100 bb)
Player1 (BB): $2.42 (121 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with Q Q
Paisting (BU) raises to $0.08, 1 fold, Player1 (BB) calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.17) 4 9 Q (2 players)
Player1 (BB) bets $0.12, Paisting (BU) raises to $0.36, Player1 (BB) raises to $0.60, Paisting (BU) raises to $4.82 (all-in), Player1 (BB) calls $1.74 (all-in)

Turn: ($4.85) 3 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($4.85) 5 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $4.85 (Rake: $0.24)

Showdown:
Paisting (BU) shows Q Q (three of a kind, Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 68%, Flop: 71%, Turn: 20%, River: 0%)

Player1 (BB) shows 9 A (a flush, Ace high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 32%, Flop: 29%, Turn: 80%, River: 100%)

Player1 (BB) wins $4.61

partypoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players

Paisting (UTG): $5.31 (266 bb)
Player3 (MP): $2.01 (101 bb)
Player4 (CO): $2.75 (138 bb)
Player5 (BU): $2.26 (113 bb)
Player6 (SB): $1.88 (94 bb)
Player1 (BB): $2.01 (101 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (Paisting) is UTG with T A
Paisting (UTG) raises to $0.08, Player3 (MP) calls $0.08, 2 players fold, Player6 (SB) calls $0.07, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.26) 8 K 7 (3 players)
Player6 (SB) checks, Paisting (UTG) bets $0.18, Player3 (MP) raises to $0.79, Player6 (SB) calls $0.79, Paisting (UTG) raises to $5.23 (all-in), Player3 (MP) calls $1.14 (all-in), Player6 (SB) calls $1.01 (all-in)

Turn: ($5.92) 8 (3 players, 3 all-in)

River: ($5.92) 9 (3 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: $5.92 (Rake: $0.29)

Showdown:
Paisting (UTG) shows T A (a flush, Ace high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 36%, Flop: 64%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

Player3 (MP) shows 7 7 (a full house, Sevens full of Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 40%, Flop: 36%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

Player6 (SB) shows T J (a flush, King high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 23%, Flop: <1%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

Player3 (MP) wins $5.63
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