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09-17-2019 , 12:02 PM
You have the right idea with 3bet ripping 100bbs vs stealers, but your ranges are way off. When button opens any 2 to bully your blinds, here's what you need to be shoving:



The key is to do it every single time button opens and you have one of these hands in the blinds when button raises so you can realize your equity.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Last edited by MRW90; 09-17-2019 at 12:11 PM.
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09-17-2019 , 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MRW90
You have the right idea with 3bet ripping 100bbs vs stealers, but your ranges are way off. When button opens any 2 to bully your blinds, here's what you need to be shoving:



The key is to do it every single time button opens and you have one of these hands in the blinds when button raises so you can realize your equity.

Let me know if you have any questions.
I do.

Can I widen my range if I don't shove? What if I evolve between tilt play and regular play?
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09-17-2019 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MRW90
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks for calculation but if you think that they steal almost 80 percent of hands range is way too tight and they run me over like pig. There are couple of examples where habit idiot stealer has tightened his minraising after couple of shoves to their face.
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09-17-2019 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by GhoulPatrol
Listen, clearly I'm super dumb and you are highly intelligent. I'm very eager to learn and get better at poker, so could you please tell me why you are 3b shoving J3o for 200+bb preflop? Since you're very big on book learning, what book advises that play, and if you could, in your own words, summarize why you feel that play is +ev. Thanks so much.
Hey bud I think you missed my question.
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09-17-2019 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by GhoulPatrol
Hey bud I think you missed my question.
Why you are repeating one hand like broken record? Like J3 is only hand I shove against guy who raises 80+ don't fold to anything smaller calls with air flop and turn and if I check raises he calls and bets turn=running me over and only option left is to shove all in. J3 has 40% equity against he's minraise stealing.
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09-17-2019 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Paisting
Why you are repeating one hand like broken record?
You know why. Because it's ridiculous.

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Like J3 is only hand I shove against guy
That's not how poker works. You aren't playing your range vs his range, you are playing your hand vs his range. In 2nl you aren't trying to balance your 200bb+ shove range.

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who raises 80+ don't fold to anything smaller calls with air flop and turn and if I check raises he calls and bets turn=running me over
Why do you feel that shoving 200bb+ with J3 is the optimal way to combat a player who plays like this?

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and only option left is to shove all in.
Why is folding not an option?

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J3 has 40% equity against he's minraise stealing.
That's another fallacy. IF he calls your massive shove with 100% of his opening range, which you assume is 85%, then yes J3o has 42% equity. However, you just said that he "don't fold to anything smaller", which implies that he isn't calling 100% and is being slightly more selective to exploit you. But also even if he does call 100%, you're still losing a massive amount of money because you'd need something like 49.9% equity to break even and you only have 42%.
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09-17-2019 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Paisting
J3 has 40% equity against he's minraise stealing.
lol you are so logical and smart OP
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09-18-2019 , 03:01 AM
the fact he’d rather semibluff 200bb with 40% into 3.5bb dead money than folding his 2 cents shows how dumb this guy really is.

he understood exactly 0 poker advice that was given to him this whole thread. #30iq

Paisting, youre not a math guy, but at least do you take a shower regularly? any area of life you think youre good at (except poker)? i mean, can you lift heavy weights or something? do you have your front teeth? are you a solid chef?
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09-18-2019 , 05:41 AM
I asked him a while ago how big the stacks need to be for him to not 3b all in vs. a minsteal. He didn't understand the concept. He has proven that he will jam $1 or $2 or $8. I think he would jam $1000 at a 2nl table if he ever were that deep because risk-reward is not a thing for him. And after that he would convince himself he had 40% equity.
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09-18-2019 , 11:02 AM
Here's the thing.

If you can't spot the sucker at the table in the first 30 mins (10 mins online), then you ARE the sucker. (And that's without a hud).

Everyone knows that paisting is the best, and everyone that shoves and wins against him are suckers. Here, you don't grind for a living, you gamble.

Or, you lie about the whole thing, and level an entire forum.
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09-18-2019 , 02:56 PM
thread should be renamed to "Biggest loser in online poker history really likes attention"
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09-18-2019 , 04:57 PM
I guess OP wins. I thought poker players were smarter than that but wow people still discuss it here as if it wasnt intentional lol.
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09-20-2019 , 07:57 PM
888 have done good work for blocking many collusionists from tables and today was nice to play many hours before these hands.

This russian fish called Easily_001 has pushed call button on preflop in every hand so hard that I think his mouse must me broken after so hard pushing. Worst mistakes what you can make in nl holdem, but 888 rewards.

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players

Paisting (UTG): $2.61 (131 bb)
HellFire021 (MP): $2.50 (125 bb)
PhiloKing (CO): $1.09 (55 bb)
Whitehorse86 (BU): $2.22 (111 bb)
Easily_001 (SB): $3.69 (185 bb)
ilvu4 (BB): $2.53 (127 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (Paisting) is UTG with 9 9
Paisting (UTG) raises to $0.08, 3 players fold, Easily_001 (SB) calls $0.07, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.18) 9 4 Q (2 players)
Easily_001 (SB) bets $0.09, Paisting (UTG) raises to $0.36, Easily_001 (SB) raises to $0.95, Paisting (UTG) raises to $2.53 (all-in), Easily_001 (SB) calls $1.58

Turn: ($5.24) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($5.24) T (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $5.24 (Rake: $0.32)

Showdown:
Paisting (UTG) shows 9 9 (three of a kind, Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 51%, Flop: 95%, Turn: 91%, River: 0%)

Easily_001 (SB) shows J Q (a straight, Eight to Queen)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 49%, Flop: 5%, Turn: 9%, River: 100%)

Easily_001 (SB) wins $4.92

This was pure middle finger showing to me from 888 after revealing many collisionist from tables. After that flop you know what card is coming on river. You know it all the time.

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 5 players

Paisting (UTG): $2.00 (100 bb)
PenspinningG (CO): $2.00 (100 bb)
JS888FU (BU): $4.59 (230 bb)
mashomis (SB): $0.53 (27 bb)
Jjoorrddaann (BB): $1.81 (91 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (Paisting) is UTG with K A
Paisting (UTG) raises to $0.08, PenspinningG (CO) calls $0.08, 1 fold, mashomis (SB) 3-bets to $0.20, 1 fold, Paisting (UTG) 4-bets to $2 (all-in), 1 fold, mashomis (SB) calls $0.33 (all-in)

Flop: ($1.16) 6 5 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($1.16) K (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($1.16) 4 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $1.16 (Rake: $0.07)

Showdown:
Paisting (UTG) shows K A (a pair of Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 70%, Flop: 68%, Turn: 91%, River: 0%)

mashomis (SB) shows A 3 (a straight, Three to Seven)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 30%, Flop: 32%, Turn: 9%, River: 100%)

mashomis (SB) wins $1.09
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09-20-2019 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Paisting
888 have done good work for blocking many collusionists from tables and today was nice to play many hours before these hands.

This russian fish called Easily_001 has pushed call button on preflop in every hand so hard that I think his mouse must me broken after so hard pushing. Worst mistakes what you can make in nl holdem, but 888 rewards.

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players

Paisting (UTG): $2.61 (131 bb)
HellFire021 (MP): $2.50 (125 bb)
PhiloKing (CO): $1.09 (55 bb)
Whitehorse86 (BU): $2.22 (111 bb)
Easily_001 (SB): $3.69 (185 bb)
ilvu4 (BB): $2.53 (127 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (Paisting) is UTG with 9 9
Paisting (UTG) raises to $0.08, 3 players fold, Easily_001 (SB) calls $0.07, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.18) 9 4 Q (2 players)
Easily_001 (SB) bets $0.09, Paisting (UTG) raises to $0.36, Easily_001 (SB) raises to $0.95, Paisting (UTG) raises to $2.53 (all-in), Easily_001 (SB) calls $1.58

Turn: ($5.24) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($5.24) T (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $5.24 (Rake: $0.32)

Showdown:
Paisting (UTG) shows 9 9 (three of a kind, Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 51%, Flop: 95%, Turn: 91%, River: 0%)

Easily_001 (SB) shows J Q (a straight, Eight to Queen)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 49%, Flop: 5%, Turn: 9%, River: 100%)

Easily_001 (SB) wins $4.92

This was pure middle finger showing to me from 888 after revealing many collisionist from tables. After that flop you know what card is coming on river. You know it all the time.

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 5 players

Paisting (UTG): $2.00 (100 bb)
PenspinningG (CO): $2.00 (100 bb)
JS888FU (BU): $4.59 (230 bb)
mashomis (SB): $0.53 (27 bb)
Jjoorrddaann (BB): $1.81 (91 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (Paisting) is UTG with K A
Paisting (UTG) raises to $0.08, PenspinningG (CO) calls $0.08, 1 fold, mashomis (SB) 3-bets to $0.20, 1 fold, Paisting (UTG) 4-bets to $2 (all-in), 1 fold, mashomis (SB) calls $0.33 (all-in)

Flop: ($1.16) 6 5 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($1.16) K (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($1.16) 4 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $1.16 (Rake: $0.07)

Showdown:
Paisting (UTG) shows K A (a pair of Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 70%, Flop: 68%, Turn: 91%, River: 0%)

mashomis (SB) shows A 3 (a straight, Three to Seven)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 30%, Flop: 32%, Turn: 9%, River: 100%)

mashomis (SB) wins $1.09
Damn that's crazy, so you must have lost a net of 2BI that session, huh?

Also I think you forgot to answer my question from a couple days ago, whoops! Why do you feel that 3b shoving J3o for 200bb+ is the optimal decision against someone who opens wide?
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09-20-2019 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by GhoulPatrol
Damn that's crazy, so you must have lost a net of 2BI that session, huh?
It was 3 buy ins because I missclicked this one. 888 software looks sometimes like dollar sign is cent sign especially when opponent has only one digit stack left. So I looked that copenshow695 3betted to 0.28 and has 0.03 left but it was 3 dollars left. On flop I thought it's my time to suck out and get own back but river is always for opponents.

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players

Dimonkiii (UTG): $2.03 (102 bb)
Paisting (MP): $4.91 (246 bb)
Easily_001 (CO): $2.00 (100 bb)
HellFire021 (BU): $2.03 (102 bb)
copenshow695 (SB): $3.28 (164 bb)
latinbull22 (BB): $1.95 (98 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (Paisting) is MP with A 5
1 fold, Paisting (MP) raises to $0.08, 2 players fold, copenshow695 (SB) 3-bets to $0.28, 1 fold, Paisting (MP) 4-bets to $4.91 (all-in), copenshow695 (SB) calls $3 (all-in)

Flop: ($6.58) J A 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($6.58) 6 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($6.58) K (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $6.58 (Rake: $0.41)

Showdown:
Paisting (MP) shows A 5 (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 33%, Flop: 90%, Turn: 95%, River: 0%)

copenshow695 (SB) shows K K (three of a kind, Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 67%, Flop: 10%, Turn: 5%, River: 100%)

copenshow695 (SB) wins $6.17

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Originally Posted by GhoulPatrol
Also I think you forgot to answer my question from a couple days ago, whoops! Why do you feel that 3b shoving J3o for 200bb+ is the optimal decision against someone who opens wide?
If you don't want them to run over you, you must do something. Blind play is very important and you can't let them run over you. When 80+ habit stealer gets shoves straight to his face he must learn at some point that I'm not giving blinds.
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09-20-2019 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Paisting
It was 3 buy ins because I missclicked this one. 888 software looks sometimes like dollar sign is cent sign especially when opponent has only one digit stack left. So I looked that copenshow695 3betted to 0.28 and has 0.03 left but it was 3 dollars left. On flop I thought it's my time to suck out and get own back but river is always for opponents.

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players

Dimonkiii (UTG): $2.03 (102 bb)
Paisting (MP): $4.91 (246 bb)
Easily_001 (CO): $2.00 (100 bb)
HellFire021 (BU): $2.03 (102 bb)
copenshow695 (SB): $3.28 (164 bb)
latinbull22 (BB): $1.95 (98 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (Paisting) is MP with ABiggest loser in online poker history wants to grind k 5Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind k
1 fold, Paisting (MP) raises to $0.08, 2 players fold, copenshow695 (SB) 3-bets to $0.28, 1 fold, Paisting (MP) 4-bets to $4.91 (all-in), copenshow695 (SB) calls $3 (all-in)

Flop: ($6.58) JBiggest loser in online poker history wants to grind k ABiggest loser in online poker history wants to grind k 9Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind k (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($6.58) 6Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind k (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($6.58) KBiggest loser in online poker history wants to grind k (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $6.58 (Rake: $0.41)

Showdown:
Paisting (MP) shows ABiggest loser in online poker history wants to grind k 5Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind k (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 33%, Flop: 90%, Turn: 95%, River: 0%)

copenshow695 (SB) shows KBiggest loser in online poker history wants to grind k KBiggest loser in online poker history wants to grind k (three of a kind, Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 67%, Flop: 10%, Turn: 5%, River: 100%)

copenshow695 (SB) wins $6.17



If you don't want them to run over you, you must do something. Blind play is very important and you can't let them run over you. When 80+ habit stealer gets shoves straight to his face he must learn at some point that I'm not giving blinds.
Not giving blinds = handing over stacks

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09-20-2019 , 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Paisting
If you don't want them to run over you, you must do something. Blind play is very important and you can't let them run over you. When 80+ habit stealer gets shoves straight to his face he must learn at some point that I'm not giving blinds.
Nobody cares about these things except you.
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09-21-2019 , 02:59 AM
He's back with more b*******.
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09-21-2019 , 11:48 AM
If you don't want them to run over you, you must do something. Blind play is very important and you can't let them run over you. When 80+ habit stealer gets shoves straight to his face he must learn at some point that I'm not giving blinds.[/QUOTE]

😂😂😂😂😂lol
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09-21-2019 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Paisting


If you don't want them to run over you, you must do something. Blind play is very important and you can't let them run over you. When 80+ habit stealer gets shoves straight to his face he must learn at some point that I'm not giving blinds.
No, I hear ya. It's sound logic. The other day I was walking out of the grocery store and a homeless guy came up to me and asked me for a dollar and I screamed "NO!" at him and then threw my wallet at him and yelled my pin numbers as I ran away. Sometimes you've just got to take a stand, man.

I assume this "must do something" logic is a Pasting Original™ and not something you've read or studied?
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09-21-2019 , 01:44 PM
you definitely need to do something when people are opening too wide, but obviously paisting can't figure out what this something is
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09-21-2019 , 11:34 PM
"If they want my 2c I will punish them by giving them 2 dollars."
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09-22-2019 , 12:02 AM
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"If they want my 2c I will punish them by giving them 2 dollars."
That is $4+
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09-22-2019 , 12:16 AM
Play limit.

Report the bots.

Within 6 months you will be at s limit you can get your money back.

Skylsndjy snd malmuth Gave you keys to kingdom 30 years ago. Follow their roadmap.

You will do well.
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09-22-2019 , 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
Play limit.

Report the bots.

Within 6 months you will be at s limit you can get your money back.

Skylsndjy snd malmuth Gave you keys to kingdom 30 years ago. Follow their roadmap.

You will do well.
This is like telling Donald Trump he has the tools to be an Olympic sprinter.
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