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Old 03-19-2019, 08:36 PM   #51
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Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

This really is incredible.

"biggest loser in online poker history" in terms of bb/100 might actually be true. I've certainly never seen anything even remotely close to -167bb/100 over a 357k sample.

-74$ on an average day grinding the microest of microstakes is truly legendary

Got to give him that.
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Old 03-19-2019, 09:31 PM   #52
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Wow...

You have to be mentally strong enough that "bad beats" don't put you off. But poker is like that. Bad beats HAS to happen and they do to everyone. Me, you, everyone else.

Just keep on grinding and play your A game. Don't let certain "95/5" beats influence your decision making. Easy to say, harder to achieve for some perhaps. If you make good decisions, if you put it in good, it's statistically virtually impossible not to be a profitable player.

Maybe poker simply isn't a game for you. Just my two cents.
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Old 03-19-2019, 09:42 PM   #53
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Wow...

You have to be mentally strong enough that "bad beats" don't put you off. But poker is like that. Bad beats HAS to happen and they do to everyone. Me, you, everyone else.

Just keep on grinding and play your A game. Don't let certain "95/5" beats influence your decision making. Easy to say, harder to achieve for some perhaps. If you make good decisions, if you put it in good, it's statistically virtually impossible not to be a profitable player.

Maybe poker simply isn't a game for you. Just my two cents.
He's not putting it in good. His EV line goes straight down.
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Old 03-19-2019, 10:14 PM   #54
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

I know this Blackrain79 and he has made huge amount of money just playing nl2. But he really don't know how the games are today. He says play tight and raise big aces like 5x or more. Even those idiots on nl2 won't call you then. They notice what you are doing.

What I need is maybe some good book about pf situations and live coaching.[/QUOTE]

You think you're even qualified to call people on nl2 idiots after losing almost 9k there? still struggling to believe this is real but the more you respond I'm starting to have some belief...I've seen some pretty ignorant deluded people on this forum you may be the biggest one of those also.
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Old 03-19-2019, 10:15 PM   #55
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He's not putting it in good. His EV line goes straight down.
Yeah, I also skimmed through his other thread. Brutal to say the least...
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Old 03-20-2019, 12:15 AM   #56
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

I opened this thinking it was the Russian guy that lost $20 000 in 2NL. I am disappoint
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Old 03-20-2019, 04:18 AM   #57
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just fold every hand preflop and you'll increase your winrate with 140-150bb/100 and you'll become the "Most improved player in one day of online poker history"
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Old 03-20-2019, 06:30 AM   #58
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just fold every hand preflop and you'll increase your winrate with 140-150bb/100 and you'll become the "Most improved player in one day of online poker history"
LOL holy
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Old 03-20-2019, 12:00 PM   #59
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just fold every hand preflop and you'll increase your winrate with 140-150bb/100 and you'll become the "Most improved player in one day of online poker history"
OMG
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Old 03-20-2019, 12:15 PM   #60
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just fold every hand preflop and you'll increase your winrate with 140-150bb/100 and you'll become the "Most improved player in one day of online poker history"
Never thought of it like that. You lose at -25bb/100 folding every hand preflop in a 6max game. He would do better just folding everything pre, than what he does now. That's hilarious.
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Old 03-20-2019, 12:25 PM   #61
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

Folding everything pre except AA would be a good start, but imagine how many leaks he could fix by simply going to the psychiatrist?
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Old 03-20-2019, 12:37 PM   #62
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

lmfao, not buying this, but good read nonetheless.
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Old 03-20-2019, 12:51 PM   #63
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Beleive it or not, I actually play in a regular $1/2NL live game with a $500 max buy in. There is a player in the game who usually brings $10,000 with him. Once he gets on tilt, he starts buying in $500 at a time and shoving preflop repeatedly without looking at cards. It is a crazy game.
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Old 03-20-2019, 01:47 PM   #64
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wtf? OP please post preflop stats. I didn't think this type of loss rate was possible for someone who has any understanding of preflop play.

I'm rooting for you. I really think you should spend your time doing other things, but if you're insistent on grinding, GL. Would be awesome to see you turn things around and win at these stakes
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Old 03-20-2019, 02:00 PM   #65
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Folding everything pre except AA would be a good start, but imagine how many leaks he could fix by simply going to the psychiatrist?
Yep. Fold everything pre but AA. Shove AA for 100bb. That would significantly cut his loss rate. He would still be losing, but no where near as much as he is doing atm.

Psychiatrist is hit and miss. I've heard varying reviews from people. Sometimes it helps people immensely, for others it doesn't help at all.

Usually it's a case of does he want help. If he doesn't want to help himself, no one can really force him to see a psychiatrist.
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Old 03-23-2019, 02:14 AM   #66
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Do you have a family, OP?
No I don't.

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Can you please show me the exact poker videos that say shoving A3, K6 and other trash hands preflop for 100bb is a good play?
When they steal you 70-95% of time you must do something. Those people are idiots on party. Norman rational people will adjust when someone is playing back and doesn't steal anymore same amount. If they raise and I reraise 3 times a row they're going to steal you on 4th round too.

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Why on earth would you try to grind this all back?You're going to grind out 3000 BIs @Nl5 now or what's the plan? Really curious how you think you can turn this pile of insanity around...

Poker doesn't owe you anything. You owe your well-being/life to poker. If you continue to do this it will destroy you. Time to move on and to learn to love yourself.
Because I don't have any money. All money is gone to those guys who are definitely not advanced players. Plan is to grind little by little my own back and then stop this whole stupid game. As I said earlier it was biggest mistake ever deposit money to poker site. I am committed to this and ready to do that work what it requires.

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You're 200$ above AIEV in your nl10 sample! Super reasonable to ask for laws against partypoker cheating you out of your hard and dedicated work
That's under EV And those suckouts are really brutal.

partypoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players

Player3 (UTG): $13.35 (134 bb)
Player4 (MP): $4.85 (49 bb)
Player5 (CO): $13.29 (133 bb)
Paisting (BU): $17.34 (173 bb)
Player1 (SB): $12.80 (128 bb)
Player2 (BB): $10.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with 8 8
3 players fold, Paisting (BU) raises to $0.40, 1 fold, Player2 (BB) calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.85) 9 8 4 (2 players)
Player2 (BB) checks, Paisting (BU) bets $0.60, Player2 (BB) raises to $2, Paisting (BU) raises to $6, Player2 (BB) raises to $9.60 (all-in), Paisting (BU) calls $3.60

Turn: ($20.05) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($20.05) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $20.05 (Rake: $1)

Showdown:
Player2 (BB) shows T 9 (a straight, Eight to Queen)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 46%, Flop: 6%, Turn: 18%, River: 100%)

Paisting (BU) shows 8 8 (three of a kind, Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 54%, Flop: 94%, Turn: 82%, River: 0%)

Player2 (BB) wins $19.05

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FML how many tables do you play??
It varies but from 2 to 9. Usually 4 to 6.

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I'm rooting for you. I really think you should spend your time doing other things, but if you're insistent on grinding, GL. Would be awesome to see you turn things around and win at these stakes
That's my goal. First step is to achieve my first winning month ever.
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Old 03-23-2019, 06:47 AM   #67
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No I don't.



When they steal you 70-95% of time you must do something. Those people are idiots on party. Norman rational people will adjust when someone is playing back and doesn't steal anymore same amount. If they raise and I reraise 3 times a row they're going to steal you on 4th round too.



Because I don't have any money. All money is gone to those guys who are definitely not advanced players. Plan is to grind little by little my own back and then stop this whole stupid game. As I said earlier it was biggest mistake ever deposit money to poker site. I am committed to this and ready to do that work what it requires.



That's under EV And those suckouts are really brutal.

partypoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players

Player3 (UTG): $13.35 (134 bb)
Player4 (MP): $4.85 (49 bb)
Player5 (CO): $13.29 (133 bb)
Paisting (BU): $17.34 (173 bb)
Player1 (SB): $12.80 (128 bb)
Player2 (BB): $10.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with 8 8
3 players fold, Paisting (BU) raises to $0.40, 1 fold, Player2 (BB) calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.85) 9 8 4 (2 players)
Player2 (BB) checks, Paisting (BU) bets $0.60, Player2 (BB) raises to $2, Paisting (BU) raises to $6, Player2 (BB) raises to $9.60 (all-in), Paisting (BU) calls $3.60

Turn: ($20.05) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($20.05) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $20.05 (Rake: $1)

Showdown:
Player2 (BB) shows T 9 (a straight, Eight to Queen)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 46%, Flop: 6%, Turn: 18%, River: 100%)

Paisting (BU) shows 8 8 (three of a kind, Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 54%, Flop: 94%, Turn: 82%, River: 0%)

Player2 (BB) wins $19.05



It varies but from 2 to 9. Usually 4 to 6.



That's my goal. First step is to achieve my first winning month ever.
You post a random hand where you were unlucky, but you are probably the worst player ever. No one at NL2 is probably worse than you (this is what your winrate tells us)
Maybe you are a nice guy, but stop playing poker. You will NEVER win money at this game....
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Old 03-23-2019, 06:56 AM   #68
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

I mean if these graphs are somehow real, then at least you got a hell of a long more bang for your buck than any other punter in the world. Losing almost 6000 buy ins at NL2-10 (mostly NL2) is incredible, but on the bright side. People have lost more actual $ in 10 hands of NL10k.

Quit while the financial hit isn’t going to ruin your life and find a new and less expensive hobby
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Old 03-23-2019, 07:14 AM   #69
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When they steal you 70-95% of time you must do something. Those people are idiots on party. Norman rational people will adjust when someone is playing back and doesn't steal anymore same amount. If they raise and I reraise 3 times a row they're going to steal you on 4th round too.
That wasn't my question. I asked you to show me the exact training material you've been watching/reading that says shoving trash hands preflop for your entire 100bb stack is a good play.

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Because I don't have any money. All money is gone to those guys who are definitely not advanced players. Plan is to grind little by little my own back and then stop this whole stupid game. As I said earlier it was biggest mistake ever deposit money to poker site. I am committed to this and ready to do that work what it requires.
You don't need to be advanced to beat someone who shoves every hand preflop.

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That's under EV And those suckouts are really brutal.

partypoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players

Player3 (UTG): $13.35 (134 bb)
Player4 (MP): $4.85 (49 bb)
Player5 (CO): $13.29 (133 bb)
Paisting (BU): $17.34 (173 bb)
Player1 (SB): $12.80 (128 bb)
Player2 (BB): $10.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with 8 8
3 players fold, Paisting (BU) raises to $0.40, 1 fold, Player2 (BB) calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.85) 9 8 4 (2 players)
Player2 (BB) checks, Paisting (BU) bets $0.60, Player2 (BB) raises to $2, Paisting (BU) raises to $6, Player2 (BB) raises to $9.60 (all-in), Paisting (BU) calls $3.60

Turn: ($20.05) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($20.05) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $20.05 (Rake: $1)

Showdown:
Player2 (BB) shows T 9 (a straight, Eight to Queen)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 46%, Flop: 6%, Turn: 18%, River: 100%)

Paisting (BU) shows 8 8 (three of a kind, Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 54%, Flop: 94%, Turn: 82%, River: 0%)

Player2 (BB) wins $19.05
Stop posting hands where you got unlucky. Instead, post hands where you played badly.

Post some hands where you shove your entire 100b stack in preflop with A3 or K6 or any other trash hand. Those are the more interesting spots which we can actually analyze.
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Old 03-23-2019, 07:19 AM   #70
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This was fake the first 4 times it was posted and is still fake. OP continued to ignore all advice in those threads too.

Anyone giving advice needs to really think about how they direct their time. Go post in a thread made by new players actually trying.
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Old 03-23-2019, 08:14 AM   #71
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maybe fake, but i dont doubt that the rng of online poker is random. some players run good, some players don't, and that idiot that says "keep grinding, things will turn around." just wants you to keep losing money to keep the ecology running. Some players run better than the others, by means of that it means some account is destined to lose forever, just like i can't win a single hand on pokerstars but winning massively on ipoker.

if you can't win, switch to another poker network that lets you win hands on showdown, period. not your fault, it's the way how online poker works.

oh and i highly doubt micro stakes doesn't have any bots on any site, so they're definitely wants you to lose. better find other sites or play live poker, unless u find a way to get ur luck going, possibly change your ip address, ur isp, or a new computer.

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Old 03-23-2019, 09:03 AM   #72
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

Earlier topic was shut down after I delivered my bank account and credit card details about depositing 15,5k on 10-20 dollars amounts in 1 year to party poker (Electraworks Limited (GIB). If you still say this is fake you're denying this on purpose.
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Old 03-23-2019, 09:11 AM   #73
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maybe fake, but i dont doubt that the rng of online poker is random. some players run good, some players don't, and that idiot that says "keep grinding, things will turn around." just wants you to keep losing money to keep the ecology running. Some players run better than the others, by means of that it means some account is destined to lose forever, just like i can't win a single hand on pokerstars but winning massively on ipoker.

if you can't win, switch to another poker network that lets you win hands on showdown, period. not your fault, it's the way how online poker works.

oh and i highly doubt micro stakes doesn't have any bots on any site, so they're definitely wants you to lose. better find other sites or play live poker, unless u find a way to get ur luck going, possibly change your ip address, ur isp, or a new computer.
His EV line goes down with his winnings line. He's getting it in bad virtually all the time. That's not run bad.

He is deliberately not posting the 99% of hands where he plays poorly and gets it in bad. Either because he's a troll or for some other reason. You can't help someone who can't admit where he's going wrong.
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Old 03-23-2019, 09:12 AM   #74
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you still lose 7x faster than if you would just fold every single hand pre flop including AA, how do you explain that
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Old 03-23-2019, 09:40 AM   #75
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Here is my theory on this.... I believe this is done on purpose for the sole purpose to see how people would react to such a thing. We are all apart of some kind of study right now by a group of college kids for some thesis or some kind of social experiment study.

I remember years ago someone did some kind of social experiment on Full Tilt Poker Forum. I can't remember exactly what it was but this guy created a BS thread and followed a scrip. The thread had all kinds of responses from nice to hateful and after about a month he came out and said it was all BS and that it was a study that he was doing. I believe he even broke down his results on what he found. I found it interesting to see what group I was labeled but this has the same feel.

Hold on I need to adjust my tin foil cap.... ok... that's better...yeah I know I sound crazy... anyways this has to be something similar to that. If it isn't that or it isn't a troll then this poor man has a major issue. I don't mean that in a judgmental way but any sane person would not continue on this path. If that is the case you clearly need help and should seek it before this completely ruins you. I mean that with all sincerity.

So now I will have fallen into the group that says you need help in your study.

GL
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