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06-18-2019 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Paisting
That hand almost timed out. If there had been more time it would be reraise.
You mouse over that table, after acting on the bottom left table, but move to make a trivial fold on another table. You had plenty of time to 3bet. Your playing far too many tables.
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06-18-2019 , 09:43 PM
Yeah, cut down on the number of tables for starters. Also is that a Finnish accent? It sounds Russian to me.
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06-18-2019 , 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Paisting
But that guy was really tight too so getting 4betted there would been disaster.
You had 2 hands on him. How is that really tight?
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06-19-2019 , 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
Yeah, cut down on the number of tables for starters. Also is that a Finnish accent? It sounds Russian to me.
Yes, that's typical finnish accent.
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06-19-2019 , 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Paisting
As you can see on the video and from the hand histories i've posted they call really aggressively almost all the time. It's really pointless to make 3 streets bluffs or any other moves based on
they were folding a lot in this video.

you skipped the other parts of the comment; do you even understand what 100% open means in a 1 hand samplesize? or 67% out of 3 hands?
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06-19-2019 , 02:11 PM
This thread is exhausting to say the least.

Paisting, you don't want advice. You don't even want to learn how to play better. You just want confirmation that the reason you've lost more bbs than any other player in history is because you run worse than any other player in history. If you could interpret your graph properly you'd know that isn't the case since your EV line is just as bad as your $+/- line, which means that even if you ran completely normal and got exactly what you deserved based on how well you get your money in, you'd still be the biggest loser in history.

Not only that, but people are pointing out exactly what you're doing wrong but you just keep reverting back to 'but i run so bad'.

You need to quit poker. But since you're obviously not going to do that, you should learn how to play better if you ever want anything to change.

Until then, keep posting updates.
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06-19-2019 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Dwimmerlaike
This is just so ****ing good hahahaha
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06-19-2019 , 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by enzet
do you even understand what 100% open means in a 1 hand samplesize? or 67% out of 3 hands?
I understand very well and I also know lots of those guys by name and what their tendencies are because i've played years against them. However I must admit that there was couple of over reacting situations when there has been lots of reraising and not folding.

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Originally Posted by Dwimmerlaike
You had 2 hands on him. How is that really tight?
Without more information I put them to tight range. Then changing that when more info is available.

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Originally Posted by MRW90
Paisting, you don't want advice.

Not only that, but people are pointing out exactly what you're doing wrong but you just keep reverting back to 'but i run so bad'.

You need to quit poker. But since you're obviously not going to do that, you should learn how to play better if you ever want anything to change.

Until then, keep posting updates.
I wouldn't have made a video if that's the case. Video contains very brutal suckout where I read hand correct and he sucked out with weaker kicker. I didn't complain whole video about it. Of course getting better is the thing.
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06-19-2019 , 08:04 PM
What is your vpip/pfr/3bet stats?
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06-19-2019 , 08:55 PM
If I was a losing player or even a break even player then I would play a max of 3 tables but probably 2 until I was showing some kind of positive win rate.
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06-20-2019 , 12:29 AM
I watched that video and as crazy as this sounds you are playing with a strategy more fitting for higher stakes.

You’re calling shoves wide because you think someone is stealing too much. If you raise and they come over top all in they are giving you the opportunity to play perfectly against them and making a fold. 3 and 4 bet bluffing is setting money on fire at the micros.

I don’t care what PIO or Snowie or Upswing or Matthew Janda or anyone says about poker when it comes to 2nl. None of that applies. It’s 100% exploitative poker at 2nl.

Identify and tag the players at your tables. Value bet big vs fish. Call down light vs maniacs. Play implied odds hands vs the nits and fold when you miss. And only the maniacs are check raising bluffs in turns and rivers. Everyone else is doing it for value. You can play face up and rec players will never adjust and most 2nl players are recs or beginners. When you are verbalizing your thought process it’s clear you are way over thinking it.
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06-20-2019 , 01:31 AM
what the f@ck?
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06-20-2019 , 01:38 AM
dude if you want any advise listen to this and you will win im not even going to give you theory or anything.

play these hands only:
AA/KK/QQ/JJ/TT
set mine 22-99
AKs/AKo/AQs/AQo
AJ+ from late position.

standard 3x raise
and get your statistics to roughly this:
15-23VPIP 5-13 PFR 3-8 3 Bet
you may still lose because you are bad but you will lose for less then 10bb/100 if you follow this then you can learn board dynamic etc.

im on shock at your graphs man like literally what the fu#k i want to throw up im not going to bother reading posts because there is no point...

I felt bad that I had lost $600 in non showdown in 2 weeks @ 5nl and only won $100 if i was break even at non showdown i woulda been up $350 usd a week for that period lol...

I don't know what to say this is insane I just sat down and looked at your graphs and said what the f#ck loudly for 5 minutes and my room mate text me and told me to shut up.. WTF

And like someone else said you have got it in for -$8000 call all in adjust that means even though you might have aces you are still beat on the board.
you are losing almost 2 stacks every hour at each table man what are you doing?
in 1 hour you are generally lucky to get it in once per table and that if there is calls.

Advise:
Play top pair top kicker, fold on wet boards or flat down if its cheap and play premium hands only and follow those stats.

try not to call 3bets with AK/AQ+ unless you have QQ and become a nit.

/gg man wtf

also you do realize if some how you turn to a profitable player you are going to be lucky to win over 5bb/100 so you will have to play 4-5 million hands or more to recoup that money @ 5nl.

i mean whats the point now man??? ???? ?????????????????????
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06-20-2019 , 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Lozgod
I watched that video and as crazy as this sounds you are playing with a strategy more fitting for higher stakes.
lol, no...
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06-20-2019 , 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by enzet
lol, no...


Not saying he was making the right moves. I’m saying he’s making moves that are horrible for 2nl. The exact moves are bad period. 3betting 45s. Bad at any level. But 3betting with spec hands can be a good strategy at higher stakes. At 2nl it’s setting money on fire.
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06-20-2019 , 08:45 AM
its only bad if you cant follow up postflop, 3betting light at 2nl is probably better than at high stakes
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06-20-2019 , 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Lozgod
Not saying he was making the right moves. I’m saying he’s making moves that are horrible for 2nl. The exact moves are bad period. 3betting 45s. Bad at any level. But 3betting with spec hands can be a good strategy at higher stakes. At 2nl it’s setting money on fire.
3b 45s is not bad at any level, actually thats quite nice in some spots.

he doesnt lose at this rate because of some too light 3bettings here and there, thats just a fraction compared to all of those 3/4 potsize button mashing postflop in bad spots. that costs a lot as you can see on his graph. and make things even worse, he does that way more frequently than 3betting crappy hands.
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06-20-2019 , 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by enzet
3b 45s is not bad at any level, actually thats quite nice in some spots.

he doesnt lose at this rate because of some too light 3bettings here and there, thats just a fraction compared to all of those 3/4 potsize button mashing postflop in bad spots. that costs a lot as you can see on his graph. and make things even worse, he does that way more frequently than 3betting crappy hands.
There's several things. I only watched about 10 minutes of the video and I saw 45s 3bet on the button, shove called with QJs preflop, and don't remember what else atm but it was a lot of what looked like trying to put opponents in tough spots or attempts at balance. There are no tough spots and zero balance needed when you are talking about $2nl. Fancy play or trying to avoid being exploited at 2nl is insanely bad strategy. There's more than enough bad players and beginners to just focus on getting value.
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06-20-2019 , 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Lozgod
There's several things. I only watched about 10 minutes of the video and I saw 45s 3bet on the button, shove called with QJs preflop, and don't remember what else atm but it was a lot of what looked like trying to put opponents in tough spots or attempts at balance. There are no tough spots and zero balance needed when you are talking about $2nl. Fancy play or trying to avoid being exploited at 2nl is insanely bad strategy. There's more than enough bad players and beginners to just focus on getting value.
Most people have a decent idea what they're doing these days, all the way down to 2nl. On Party, I imagine you're playing against mainly bots and eastern euro nitregs at those limits. I didn't watch OP's stream for long, but I didn't see any obvious fish on the 9 tables he was playing (other than OP himself of course).
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06-20-2019 , 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
Most people have a decent idea what they're doing these days, all the way down to 2nl. On Party, I imagine you're playing against mainly bots and eastern euro nitregs at those limits. I didn't watch OP's stream for long, but I didn't see any obvious fish on the 9 tables he was playing (other than OP himself of course).
I would agree there are more good players at 2nl than years past but there is still an abundance of bad rec players on ACR/WSOP/Global which are the sites I have played on. I'd assume Poker Stars because of the size of the player pool and the fact most poker players are not long term winners. If Party Poker is the exception I would change sites but I can't imagine if you made a good effort to table select you wouldn't find a couple of whales on a few tables at any site. It's pointless to sit at a table full of competent regs or bots that actually have winning profiles.
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06-20-2019 , 04:26 PM
Catching up on this thread, did nobody point out that OP said he was playing too much poker to go to the gym and then a week later posted a graph showing he only played 90 hours in a month?

Literally all I ever want to do is talk to these types of people. Is it an elaborate troll? Is it extreme mental illness? It's so interesting. Like...if you've taken out 5 figures worth of fast loans, how are you paying those off? With no job, no family and no money what are you doing the 400+ hours every month where you aren't sleeping or playing poker? I would gladly trade poker knowledge 1:1 for stories about his life.
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06-20-2019 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Paisting
First of all thanks for the comments. What comes to that postflop play there's no really options without something on the board. As you can see on the video and from the hand histories i've posted they call really aggressively almost all the time. It's really pointless to make 3 streets bluffs or any other moves based on pushing they out from the pot. Next site is still open, biggest problem is that many of those software skins looks really crappy.



That hand almost timed out. If there had been more time it would be reraise. But that guy was really tight too so getting 4betted there would been disaster. Results oriented as played he's hand looks like an ace and we won small pot there.
say what now?
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06-21-2019 , 07:22 AM
Yesterday made deposit to 888 poker. Players are teribad there but the software is really disaster. Can't play there so still looking for new site.
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06-21-2019 , 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Paisting
Yesterday made deposit to 888 poker. Players are teribad there but the software is really disaster. Can't play there so still looking for new site.
teribad as in worse than you?
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06-21-2019 , 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
teribad as in worse than you?
What do you think Einstein?
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