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Old 03-18-2019, 02:28 PM   #26
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

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Someone confirmed these graphs are a troll: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...3&postcount=66

Your loss rate is far too big to be believable. You're literally losing 3 100bb stacks every 100 hands.
Op from this thread had a thread similar to this in the micro nl subforum. Someone took his graphs and posted it on reddit. The op here has never been confirmed trolling.
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Old 03-18-2019, 02:39 PM   #27
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

Is it possible the graph is upside down?
I can't imagine anyone would want to play poker if this is true. I'm sick just looking at it. Pretty massive sample size.
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Old 03-18-2019, 03:05 PM   #28
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

zero chance this is real
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Old 03-18-2019, 03:06 PM   #29
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Op from this thread had a thread similar to this in the micro nl subforum. Someone took his graphs and posted it on reddit. The op here has never been confirmed trolling.
Ok. Well he should post his entire PT4 database of hands. Or tell us his poker screen name. It's pretty amazing anyone could lose at this rate, if this is actually real.
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Old 03-18-2019, 03:19 PM   #30
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

I refuse to believe this is real, especially after he says he tries to play his best, after having read lots of books and watching lots of videos. So, Iīm sorry but I donīt believe you.

Just in case this is serious, I agree that the explanation should be you play a few hands properly, then lose due to a bad beat or whatever and starts to go all in every single hand. I played a lot against people like you, itīs high variance but very profitable. So, if this is really serious, and you donīt think you have a mental problem, come to pokerstars.com 10nl. Iīll be waiting.
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Old 03-18-2019, 04:11 PM   #31
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

holy **** dude I can't believe you made a new thread, just ban yourself from party, uninstall the client and move on. You literally have some mental disorder which forces you to open jam hands after playing 20 hands and you have been doing that for over a decade. There is no chance in hell you will ever win money playing poker.

For those who doubt he is real, I played vs him on party and he is capable of losing at -300bb/100 or whatever it was, just check the last few pages of his other thread.
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Old 03-18-2019, 05:05 PM   #32
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

I dare you to record/stream yourself playing for 1h session
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Old 03-18-2019, 05:17 PM   #33
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

OP, find an old copy of that old Blackrain79 book, Crush the Microstakes I think, forget anything you think you know about poker, read it, implement everything exactly as stated in the book and stick to 2nl. Self ban yourself if possible from higher games permanently. You should win between 1/3 bb/100 over a large sample with some luck. Maybe in a few years or decades, if online poker still exists, 2nl is still easy and youīre not a complete idiot and can learn new tricks here and there, then you can get out of the hole.
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Old 03-18-2019, 08:58 PM   #34
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

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Ok. Well he should post his entire PT4 database of hands. Or tell us his poker screen name. It's pretty amazing anyone could lose at this rate, if this is actually real.
He did all this in the other thread.
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Old 03-18-2019, 09:12 PM   #35
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

Wheres mirage when you need him
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Old 03-19-2019, 05:55 AM   #36
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

I played with Paisting 2 or 3 months ago at NL2 on partypoker. For a while, I had him marked as a reg or bad reg because he would play normal or okay for a lot of hands. However, he seems to have huge tilt problems. In one session, I stacked him in a hand he might get tilted from. Then he would just keep jamming pre and also insult a lot of people in the chat. I was able to build up to a 800 BB stack from him, while others on the table also won huge stacks. In a short amount of time, Paisting lost around 2500 BB before telling me that he hopes to play with me again and then leaving the table.

After the session, I did some research and found this from Dec 2011 where they talk about Paisting: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...96/index5.html
The guy in DjAlex's avatar actually looks like the same guy in Paisting's avatar on partypoker.

So it seems like everything is real. Paisting is good for NL2 standards when he is not tilted, but when he is tilted, he tilts in the chat and jams every hand pre.
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Old 03-19-2019, 06:57 AM   #37
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

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I mean come on this isn't real, just because I want it to be real doesn't make it so
He has been posting this same stuff in the finnish forums for many years now.

Either it's real, or he's the most committed troll ever.
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Old 03-19-2019, 07:31 AM   #38
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Old 03-19-2019, 09:16 AM   #39
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Why and how are you still interested in poker after this? Personally just couldn't see anyone playing this many hands at micros at this loss rate without finding another hobby.
You can be sure if I ever win those money back that I will never be involved with poker anymore. If it were possible to go back ten years I would say to myself "Do not never play single one hand!"

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your best bet would be learn how to actually play winning poker and grind Mtt's hoping you can get some scores.
I don't really think mtt's as an option. It's whole different world with short stacking and knowing when to move in. And I really don't want to buy any new poker book or start to learn new game again.

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Think the best part is being 82 stacks below ev at 2nl...which is what $164?but let's not worry about the other $8600 odd curse da variance!
Let's imagine that my overral result would be break even $0 but really it's almost -$200. Nothing bankroll management would not stand that. And they say good bankroll is 50 buy ins.

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Or tell us his poker screen name.
Same screen name and I play only party poker. And I will post hands on this topic.

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I dare you to record/stream yourself playing for 1h session
This could be one option as well.

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OP, find an old copy of that old Blackrain79 book, Crush the Microstakes I think, forget anything you think you know about poker, read it, implement everything exactly as stated in the book and stick to 2nl.
I know this Blackrain79 and he has made huge amount of money just playing nl2. But he really don't know how the games are today. He says play tight and raise big aces like 5x or more. Even those idiots on nl2 won't call you then. They notice what you are doing.

What I need is maybe some good book about pf situations and live coaching.
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Old 03-19-2019, 09:44 AM   #40
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

And they say poker is dead and party is hard
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Old 03-19-2019, 10:57 AM   #41
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

dude you lost over 5000 buy ins, this game is not for you, don't try to rationalize anything, just move on to something else, go get help if you can't control your impulses but don't try to become a winning player, you don't have what it takes
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Old 03-19-2019, 11:09 AM   #42
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Let's imagine that my overral result would be break even $0 but really it's almost -$200. Nothing bankroll management would not stand that. And they say good bankroll is 50 buy ins.
For winning players, 50's enough. You can make all the hypotheticals you want but you know you're not a winning player.
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Old 03-19-2019, 11:12 AM   #43
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

It's quite strange, you'd think a gambling addict would chase losses by playing higher. There's a weird discipline to grinding so long at 2nl while losing so bad most people don't think it's legit. Do you have a family, OP?
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Old 03-19-2019, 11:55 AM   #44
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Same screen name and I play only party poker. And I will post hands on this topic.
From reading this thread and your other thread, your strategy appears to be shoving 95% of hands preflop for 100bb.

Can you please show me the exact poker videos that say shoving A3, K6 and other trash hands preflop for 100bb is a good play?
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Old 03-19-2019, 12:05 PM   #45
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I have to quit poker and I don't know how.

This is really disturbing.

Why on earth would you try to grind this all back? Losing at this rate is traumatizing. You're going to grind out 3000 BIs @Nl5 now or what's the plan? Really curious how you think you can turn this pile of insanity around...

If this is all real, you're more than delusional. Poker doesn't owe you anything. You owe your well-being/life to poker. If you continue to do this it will destroy you. Time to move on and to learn to love yourself.

edit: Jesus Christ, he already tried to "win it all back" @NL2 FIVE years ago!! Promised not to chase losses at "higher" stakes and continued to do exactly that as shown in the OP. Just wow.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=70376

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Old 03-19-2019, 12:14 PM   #46
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

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I know this Blackrain79 and he has made huge amount of money just playing nl2. But he really don't know how the games are today. He says play tight and raise big aces like 5x or more. Even those idiots on nl2 won't call you then. They notice what you are doing.

What I need is maybe some good book about pf situations and live coaching.
Itīs funny that you call them idiots, but youīre the one losing more than 100 bb/100 at 2nl. Anyway, I donīt want to post here anymore, as I donīt want to encourage you to keep playing this game. Whatever you do, good luck!
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Old 03-19-2019, 12:22 PM   #47
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Let's imagine that my overral result would be break even $0 but really it's almost -$200. Nothing bankroll management would not stand that. And they say good bankroll is 50 buy ins.
what does that have to with anything? WTF dude? You're 200$ above AIEV in your nl10 sample! Super reasonable to ask for laws against partypoker cheating you out of your hard and dedicated work
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Old 03-19-2019, 06:22 PM   #48
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!!!!

download a free 7 day trial somewhere and download the poker mindset audio book,listen to it, try and implement some of his ideas into your natural poker thought processes.

I would also change pokersites and definitely screen names..

It is rumoured that the Finnish are some of the most stubborn people on the planet.

This has to be a troll. I mean.. WTAF
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Old 03-19-2019, 06:26 PM   #49
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I start this with some pictures:

nl2 -$8792.18 -82 buy ins below EV


nl5 (notice that pt4 shows party poker nl5 as nl4) -$5943.81


nl10 -$773.92 -15 buy ins below EV


Total loss -$15509.91


This is me playing nl2, nl5 and nl10 on party poker for one year.
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FML how many tables do you play??
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Old 03-19-2019, 06:48 PM   #50
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

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It is real. Op opens softwares and start playing, can play winning poker for perioids @nl 5 but after getting couple of bad beats starts going all in every hand and depositing more money to the site simultaneously.
I think we found a leak.
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