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Old 08-02-2020, 08:26 AM   #3476
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

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Losing $80 a day...

If you quit poker your life ev suddenly goes up.

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Old 08-02-2020, 08:41 AM   #3477
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Are u serious? U can’t be serious. No really? Ur ready to spend the next 10-20 years doing this? Why do u say 10-20 years?


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I guess he's about 60-65 years old, so he says 10-20 years because he expects his life expectancy to be around 80. No other reason why I can think he gave that figure.
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Old 08-02-2020, 09:01 AM   #3478
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Old 08-02-2020, 09:32 AM   #3479
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

Paisting, there's a guy in brazil that has lost almost 200k @NL2. Time to up that volume and reclaim the biggest loser-belt! You can do it! GL?
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Old 08-02-2020, 12:56 PM   #3480
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Paisting, there's a guy in brazil that has lost almost 200k @NL2. Time to up that volume and reclaim the biggest loser-belt! You can do it! GL?
On what site he’s playing on?
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Old 08-02-2020, 01:26 PM   #3481
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On what site he’s playing on?
On Teletubbystars
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Old 08-02-2020, 01:27 PM   #3482
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On what site he’s playing on?
Things I never expected to see: Paisting having the opportunity to bumhunt.
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Old 08-02-2020, 02:43 PM   #3483
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I guess he's about 60-65 years old, so he says 10-20 years because he expects his life expectancy to be around 80. No other reason why I can think he gave that figure.

I really hope you’re wrong about this. It makes me incredibly sad to picture this.

Paisting, please, if your age is anywhere close to this, there are so many other fulfilling things you could be doing other than poker. But if this truly makes you happy, then disregard.


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Old 08-02-2020, 02:50 PM   #3484
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Do you consider yourself a winning player? If so, whats the evidence about this conclusion? Do you think that your strategy is the best possible one?
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Old 08-02-2020, 04:17 PM   #3485
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You are always saying that games are fair and even saying change site even they will manipulate their games. So you are basically saying that let them manipulate and find another site.

I've told many times good reasons why they are making it. Because it's happening on lower cash stakes and free or low buy in tournaments fish players think they can win and deposit more and go higher limits where games are not favouring them.

I've played lots of those tournaments that are free or free ticket from daily spin. Here are hands that has dropped me from tournament. Usually it's worst hand.

2.8.2020
Freeroll

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - 400/800 (80 ante) - 9 players

jiaruappa (UTG): 869 (1 bb)
Kaufmann64 (UTG+1): 789 (1 bb)
Paisting (MP): 4,663 (6 bb)
Huima88 (MP+1): 6,565 (8 bb)
Finous (LP): 1,715 (2 bb)
4ntsa (CO): 23,995 (30 bb)
SakuPeltonen (BU): 5,634 (7 bb)
BadBeatles4 (SB): 21,359 (27 bb)
bink2thebank (BB): 25,112 (31 bb)

Pre-Flop: (1,920) Hero (Paisting) is MP with A Q
2 players fold, Paisting (MP) raises to 4,583 (all-in), 3 players fold, SakuPeltonen (BU) 3-bets to 5,554 (all-in), 2 players fold

Flop: (11,086) 7 6 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (11,086) K (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (11,086) 3 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: 11,086

Showdown:
SakuPeltonen (BU) shows Q K (a pair of Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 25%, Flop: 19%, Turn: 93%, River: 100%)

Paisting (MP) shows A Q (high card, Ace)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 75%, Flop: 81%, Turn: 7%, River: 0%)

SakuPeltonen (BU) wins 11,086

2.8.2020
Freeroll

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - 125/250 (25 ante) - 9 players

asd8755 (UTG): 2,603 (10 bb)
paga2015 (UTG+1): 2,544 (10 bb)
Xolostya4ka (MP): 2,940 (12 bb)
Greenschot (MP+1): 2,244 (9 bb)
carlosvalero (LP): 3,352 (13 bb)
Paisting (CO): 2,518 (10 bb)
forlars (BU): 12,397 (50 bb)
BelousOleg (SB): 10,193 (41 bb)
1503drel1503 (BB): 2,895 (12 bb)

Pre-Flop: (600) Hero (Paisting) is CO with A K
4 players fold, carlosvalero (LP) calls 250, Paisting (CO) raises to 2,493 (all-in), 3 players fold, carlosvalero (LP) calls 2,243

Flop: (5,586) 5 3 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (5,586) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (5,586) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 5,586

Showdown:
Paisting (CO) shows A K (a pair of Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 65%, Flop: 76%, Turn: 86%, River: 0%)

carlosvalero (LP) shows J Q (two pair, Jacks and Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 35%, Flop: 24%, Turn: 14%, River: 100%)

carlosvalero (LP) wins 5,586

1.8.2020
$1 tournament

888Poker, $0.92 + $0.08 - Hold'em No Limit - 200/400 (50 ante) - 9 players

KnightKing (UTG): 82,775 (207 bb)
codavidr (UTG+1): 39,554 (99 bb)
doroga_koksa (MP): 29,230 (73 bb)
Ravinaldo (MP+1): 53,545 (134 bb)
Validol789 (LP): 25,920 (65 bb)
Jonnersan (CO): 25,905 (65 bb)
Paisting (BU): 32,210 (81 bb)
RAYDONOVAN01 (SB): 20,280 (51 bb)
me.filteau (BB): 80,581 (201 bb)

Pre-Flop: (1,050) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with 7 8
KnightKing (UTG) calls 400, 1 fold, doroga_koksa (MP) raises to 1,200, Ravinaldo (MP+1) calls 1,200, 1 fold, Jonnersan (CO) calls 1,200, Paisting (BU) calls 1,200, 1 fold, me.filteau (BB) calls 800, KnightKing (UTG) calls 800

Flop: (7,850) 5 8 6 (6 players)
me.filteau (BB) checks, KnightKing (UTG) checks, doroga_koksa (MP) checks, Ravinaldo (MP+1) checks, Jonnersan (CO) checks, Paisting (BU) checks

Turn: (7,850) 4 (6 players)
me.filteau (BB) bets 3,925, KnightKing (UTG) folds, doroga_koksa (MP) calls 3,925, Ravinaldo (MP+1) calls 3,925, Jonnersan (CO) folds, Paisting (BU) raises to 30,960 (all-in), 2 players fold, Ravinaldo (MP+1) calls 27,035

River: (77,620) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 77,620

Showdown:
Paisting (BU) shows 7 8 (a straight, Four to Eight)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 38%, Flop: 49%, Turn: 77%, River: 0%)

Ravinaldo (MP+1) shows Q J (a flush, Queen high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 62%, Flop: 51%, Turn: 23%, River: 100%)

Ravinaldo (MP+1) wins 77,620

30.7.2020
Freeroll

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - 100/200 (40 ante) - 9 players

Paisting (UTG): 2,780 (14 bb)
RandorKB (UTG+1): 4,665 (23 bb)
L_diablo (MP): 7,055 (35 bb)
R.abreu13 (MP+1): 6,335 (32 bb)
Uhhhuu (LP): 3,800 (19 bb)
ZECABRITA (CO): 2,510 (13 bb)
Hajaasar4R (BU): 1,910 (10 bb)
eletor2016 (SB): 1,760 (9 bb)
Art13959 (BB): 9,140 (46 bb)

Pre-Flop: (660) Hero (Paisting) is UTG with J J
Paisting (UTG) raises to 2,740 (all-in), 3 players fold, Uhhhuu (LP) calls 2,740, ZECABRITA (CO) calls 2,470 (all-in), 3 players fold

Flop: (8,610) 2 K A (3 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (8,610) Q (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: (8,610) 6 (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: 8,610

Showdown:
Paisting (UTG) shows J J (a pair of Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 70%, Flop: 5%, Turn: 7%, River: 0%)

Uhhhuu (LP) shows J K (a pair of Kings - higher kicker)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 20%, Flop: 74%, Turn: 74%, River: 100%)

ZECABRITA (CO) shows K 9 (a pair of Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 10%, Flop: 20%, Turn: 19%, River: 0%)

Uhhhuu (LP) wins 8,610

18.7.2020
Freeroll

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - 60/120 (12 ante) - 9 players

rexmarley (UTG): 2,572 (21 bb)
manowar44 (UTG+1): 3,288 (27 bb)
bigjack123 (MP): 1,039 (9 bb)
Paisting (MP+1): 1,152 (10 bb)
LibbyM76 (LP): 3,066 (26 bb)
BlueJs1 (CO): 994 (8 bb)
tuhien (BU): 730 (6 bb)
IamSanOK (SB): 1,882 (16 bb)
dinor22 (BB): 3,236 (27 bb)

Pre-Flop: (288) Hero (Paisting) is MP+1 with T T
1 fold, manowar44 (UTG+1) calls 120, 1 fold, Paisting (MP+1) raises to 1,140 (all-in), 5 players fold, manowar44 (UTG+1) calls 1,020

Flop: (2,568) K 4 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (2,568) A (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (2,568) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 2,568

Showdown:
Paisting (MP+1) shows T T (a pair of Tens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 69%, Flop: 86%, Turn: 2%, River: 0%)

manowar44 (UTG+1) shows T A (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 31%, Flop: 14%, Turn: 98%, River: 100%)

manowar44 (UTG+1) wins 2,568

7.7.2020
Freeroll

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - 100/200 (40 ante) - 8 players

cabac15 (UTG): 3,910 (20 bb)
ljuko (UTG+1): 2,610 (13 bb)
Andre196915 (MP): 6,942 (35 bb)
Wakwak (MP+1): 6,598 (33 bb)
Dodiewhitton (CO): 2,435 (12 bb)
Tay1632 (BU): 2,385 (12 bb)
Paisting (SB): 2,435 (12 bb)
aldinho227 (BB): 2,685 (13 bb)

Pre-Flop: (620) Hero (Paisting) is SB with 7 7
3 players fold, Wakwak (MP+1) raises to 400, 2 players fold, Paisting (SB) 3-bets to 2,395 (all-in), 1 fold, Wakwak (MP+1) calls 1,995

Flop: (5,310) 9 A 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (5,310) K (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (5,310) T (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 5,310

Showdown:
Paisting (SB) shows 7 7 (a pair of Sevens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 68%, Flop: 10%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

Wakwak (MP+1) shows 3 9 (a pair of Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 32%, Flop: 90%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

Wakwak (MP+1) wins 5,310

6.7.2020
Freeroll

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - 800/1,600 (160 ante) - 7 players

DNK.93 (UTG): 5,456 (3 bb)
Shveg77 (UTG+1): 12,036 (8 bb)
Paisting (MP): 13,067 (8 bb)
vnatyrepiton (MP+1): 17,576 (11 bb)
10muki10 (CO): 21,490 (13 bb)
Rahmanbd26 (BU): 964 (1 bb)
vikdn (BB): 2,535 (2 bb)

Pre-Flop: (2,720) Hero (Paisting) is MP with K A
2 players fold, Paisting (MP) raises to 12,907 (all-in), 3 players fold, vikdn (BB) calls 775 (all-in)

Flop: (5,870) 5 7 6 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (5,870) 8 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (5,870) Q (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: 5,870

Showdown:
Paisting (MP) shows K A (high card, Ace)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 64%, Flop: 13%, Turn: 8%, River: 0%)

vikdn (BB) shows 6 3 (a flush, Eight high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 36%, Flop: 87%, Turn: 92%, River: 100%)

vikdn (BB) wins 5,870

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - 1,500/3,000 (300 ante) - 9 players

tzuky77 (UTG): 1,968 (1 bb)
Alekseyi2601 (UTG+1): 29,833 (10 bb)
Cricketman (MP): 4,378 (1 bb)
mirek1961 (MP+1): 11,379 (4 bb)
Los198181 (LP): 9,864 (3 bb)
ThomasTa. (CO): 79,238 (26 bb)
Shveg77 (BU): 30,195 (10 bb)
Paisting (SB): 2,772 (1 bb)
Bigwave14 (BB): 7,118 (2 bb)

Pre-Flop: (7,200) Hero (Paisting) is SB with 8 8
3 players fold, mirek1961 (MP+1) calls 3,000, 2 players fold, Shveg77 (BU) raises to 29,895 (all-in), Paisting (SB) calls 972 (all-in), 2 players fold

Flop: (14,172) Q 5 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (14,172) 8 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (14,172) 6 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: 14,172

Showdown:
Shveg77 (BU) shows A 4 (a straight, Four to Eight)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 34%, Flop: 16%, Turn: 9%, River: 100%)

Paisting (SB) shows 8 8 (three of a kind, Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 66%, Flop: 84%, Turn: 91%, River: 0%)

Shveg77 (BU) wins 14,172

5.7.2020
Freeroll

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - 150/300 (30 ante) - 9 players

Paisting (UTG): 3,548 (12 bb)
TurtleFlex (UTG+1): 10,714 (36 bb)
spLyd (MP): 3,800 (13 bb)
matrixoo148 (MP+1): 12,570 (42 bb)
Tiktac2630 (LP): 13,463 (45 bb)
Diverzon (CO): 8,506 (28 bb)
migauu (BU): 7,119 (24 bb)
yuretssib (SB): 4,616 (15 bb)
Norooooo (BB): 4,835 (16 bb)

Pre-Flop: (720) Hero (Paisting) is UTG with 9 9
Paisting (UTG) raises to 3,518 (all-in), 6 players fold, yuretssib (SB) calls 3,368, 1 fold

Flop: (7,606) 6 5 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (7,606) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (7,606) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 7,606

Showdown:
Paisting (UTG) shows 9 9 (a pair of Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 81%, Flop: 12%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

yuretssib (SB) shows 6 6 (three of a kind, Sixes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 19%, Flop: 88%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

yuretssib (SB) wins 7,606
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Old 08-02-2020, 04:23 PM   #3486
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

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I really hope you’re wrong about this. It makes me incredibly sad to picture this.

Paisting, please, if your age is anywhere close to this, there are so many other fulfilling things you could be doing other than poker. But if this truly makes you happy, then disregard.


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He's eluded to his age in previous posts. He says he's retirement age and he worked hard all his life for the money that he's now lost on poker. So I'm guessing he's in his 50's or 60's.
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Old 08-02-2020, 05:29 PM   #3487
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You are always saying that games are fair and even saying change site even they will manipulate their games. So you are basically saying that let them manipulate and find another site.

I've told many times good reasons why they are making it. Because it's happening on lower cash stakes and free or low buy in tournaments fish players think they can win and deposit more and go higher limits where games are not favouring them.

I've played lots of those tournaments that are free or free ticket from daily spin. Here are hands that has dropped me from tournament. Usually it's worst hand.

2.8.2020
Freeroll
Um, you don't play those hands that way when in middle of tourney. Every where is rigged against you? Then why do you give them money? Dumb and dumber.

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He's eluded to his age in previous posts. He says he's retirement age and he worked hard all his life for the money that he's now lost on poker. So I'm guessing he's in his 50's or 60's.
Believe he said in mid 30's.
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Old 08-02-2020, 05:38 PM   #3488
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Time is not the problem. This is what I do and have at least 10-20 years from this point to get profit.
A good player makes 7BB/100. If you would be able to beat NL2 with 7BB/100 and you would play 50k hands each month, then you would make:

(50.000/100)*0.02*7 = $70

$70 a month.

You are down how much? 20k? It would take about 24 years.

It would take 24 years if you would beat NL2 with 7BB/100. Your last month you were at -235BB/100 and post after post you just show that you are not willing to learn anything out of it.
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Old 08-02-2020, 06:14 PM   #3489
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Tough month Paisting, must be just the software that’s the reason, nothing to do with you at all! Gl in August!
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Old 08-02-2020, 06:19 PM   #3490
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You could just play the Sunday Million every week. You'd lose a maximum of 436 USD per month and you'd have a nonzero chance to bink it by shoving ATC and that would get you pretty much even lifetime
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Old 08-02-2020, 09:40 PM   #3491
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

Hmm, I dont know , he might bust before the reentry period ends some weeks...
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Old 08-02-2020, 10:59 PM   #3492
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You could just play the Sunday Million every week. You'd lose a maximum of 436 USD per month and you'd have a nonzero chance to bink it by shoving ATC and that would get you pretty much even lifetime
Paisting played 26 days last month.

What activities do you recommend for him the other 22 days?
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Old 08-02-2020, 11:15 PM   #3493
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So clearly all the sites have coordinated together to rig the deck against Paisting.

I've seen this once before, the creators harness demonic energy to target those who have been cursed in a previous life, such as your self. There's really only one solution to this OP. Do a search for an elixir of attraction, drink it, and you will then have to wait 2-10 years before playing so the luck can fully attract back to you. This helped my friend immensely, GL Paistings.
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Old 08-03-2020, 01:09 AM   #3494
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So yesterday I tried this myself at the PLO tables. Now obviously I was ---EV in the games I played and I tilted QUITE a bit, making ridculous shoves and calls all the time. I switched between playing 50bb and full stacks and lost like 600bb in total over >5,000 hands, almost busting my account at several points lol. Playing two different stakes, I did however pay >800b in rake and finished in the Top 5 and Top 20 of 2 different leaderboards, so my account balance was basically "reset" today (I think I´m up 2 Dollars after the reset haha) and I will get another 20% rakeback on top of this tomorrow. So I did actually make money, albeit at a ridiculous hourly win rate, despite clearly being a losing player in these games.

It´s just a losing player´s dream, assuming you put in a lot of volume.

So yeah, how Paisting doesn´t move back to Party is just beyond me. In terms of sheer stupidity, this might be even worse than shoving J5o for 500bb lol.
On this note, and I'm quoting an expert here, last week was disaster

Didn't play a whole lot for 3 days, but I went on a big bender on Saturday and Sunday, and I won some Top 10 places and one leaderboard in the process.

Overall, I think I lost a little, but I definitely would have gone busto if I was playing on a different site. @Paisting: Why do you keep on doing this to yourself if you could have this instead?

Brag: >100% rakeback
Beat: I'm the Paisting of PLO on PartyPoker, at least for now.
Beat: The games are full of regulars and I don't think I've seen regulars make any mistakes post flop. Then again, some hands stand out as super bizarre to me, but I guess they might be standard to a GTO bot?
Beat: I would probably win more If my volume was 10 % of that and I picked better games
Variance: There's no lack of that, that's for sure
Goal: Get my loss rate down to -12bb/100, then 0bb/100 (all-in adjusted, it's at -18bb/100 for now). I think it's doable if I stop making "expert" bluffs, like jamming river with AKQ5 for 100bbs on a K5363 board with three hearts. Trying to push villain off Aces only to get called by Kings full is not fun lol.


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Old 08-03-2020, 02:25 AM   #3495
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

No one is playing perfect post flop at plo100, never mind plo2.
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Old 08-03-2020, 05:51 AM   #3496
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Re: Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

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On this note, and I'm quoting an expert here, last week was disaster

Didn't play a whole lot for 3 days, but I went on a big bender on Saturday and Sunday, and I won some Top 10 places and one leaderboard in the process.

Overall, I think I lost a little, but I definitely would have gone busto if I was playing on a different site. @Paisting: Why do you keep on doing this to yourself if you could have this instead?

Brag: >100% rakeback
Beat: I'm the Paisting of PLO on PartyPoker, at least for now.
Beat: The games are full of regulars and I don't think I've seen regulars make any mistakes post flop. Then again, some hands stand out as super bizarre to me, but I guess they might be standard to a GTO bot?
Beat: I would probably win more If my volume was 10 % of that and I picked better games
Variance: There's no lack of that, that's for sure
Goal: Get my loss rate down to -12bb/100, then 0bb/100 (all-in adjusted, it's at -18bb/100 for now). I think it's doable if I stop making "expert" bluffs, like jamming river with AKQ5 for 100bbs on a K5363 board with three hearts. Trying to push villain off Aces only to get called by Kings full is not fun lol.

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Old 08-03-2020, 08:01 AM   #3497
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You are always saying that games are fair and even saying change site even they will manipulate their games. So you are basically saying that let them manipulate and find another site.

I've told many times good reasons why they are making it. Because it's happening on lower cash stakes and free or low buy in tournaments fish players think they can win and deposit more and go higher limits where games are not favouring them.
Many sites copy features that Pokerstars implements. Remember when Stars introduced Spin n Go's then every other site on the internet rushed to make their own version?

Ask yourself this: why didn't any other sites copy Pokerstars' cash-out feature? It's easy extra rake for the site, and the feature would take an amateur programmer at most one afternoon to implement.

The only reasonable explanation is the sites are rigged and they know they'd lose money on this feature as worst hand often wins. That's why I would never recommend playing on any site other than Pokerstars. Imagine this: if Pokerstars is also rigged at lower limits, you can just use the cash-out feature every time you get it in good. You'll get sucked out on a lot, but the site then still have to pay you and pay the guy who sucked out. Site loses money longterm and you win either way. Seems like a no-brainer to me.
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Old 08-03-2020, 08:11 AM   #3498
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You are always saying that games are fair and even saying change site even they will manipulate their games. So you are basically saying that let them manipulate and find another site.

I've told many times good reasons why they are making it. Because it's happening on lower cash stakes and free or low buy in tournaments fish players think they can win and deposit more and go higher limits where games are not favouring them.

I've played lots of those tournaments that are free or free ticket from daily spin. Here are hands that has dropped me from tournament. Usually it's worst hand.
Stop crying and just show the stats. You have tracked all your hands, so just show the stats (not single hands!) where you think that the results are manipulated.
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Old 08-03-2020, 08:15 AM   #3499
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If worst hand always wins, you should play on Pokerstars.

You can use the cashout feature when you get it in good (so you never lose) and when you get it in bad, you can let the cards run out and win the pot (because worst hand always wins).

It's a win-win situation for you, OP. You win when you get it in good and you win when you get it in bad. This means you can win back all the money you've lost.
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Old 08-03-2020, 09:13 AM   #3500
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If worst hand always wins, you should play on Pokerstars.

You can use the cashout feature when you get it in good (so you never lose) and when you get it in bad, you can let the cards run out and win the pot (because worst hand always wins).

It's a win-win situation for you, OP. You win when you get it in good and you win when you get it in bad. This means you can win back all the money you've lost.
Exactly. Think about it: OP has been avoiding playing on Pokerstars for over 10 years. He's also been losing for over 10 years. Doesn't seem like a coincidence to me.
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