Good lord.

How many BIs down lifetime @NL2? 50k+, right? That's 100k$ at the smallest stakes possible.

STFU and stop playing.

Every person at your table knows that, that's why they call your all-ins with ATC hoping to trigger your tilt. It's like playing slots, you keep feeding pennies for hours trying to trigger the jackpot.

He deserves about 200 bucks?

I really really really want to watch Paisting doing live streams (with his face and voice). Willing to contribute $40. Someone set up a Gofundme page.

Paisting,

If you suddenly won/inherited $200,000 from some source outside of poker, would you immediately quit poker forever or would you continue to try to win back what you've lost at poker? Just curious.

I am wondering, why mods don't close this thread.
Pasting should not get any advice here. He is down a lot of money and he is going to lose more money every single day..Guys stop promote this. Is unethical. He need a lot of help and all you guys know that. Stop this *****

If winning so much immediate quit yes.

Even if you won $200k from somewhere else you'd still be down $16k+ to Poker. The only way you'll ever break even in poker is by winning your money back at the tables.

Question to the "ethics" people in this thread. If you're a reg at your casino, and a horrible reg who tilt spews is at your table. How do you proceed? Do you get up or avoid pots with him because "he has a problem"? Or do you just rake the pots in and not engage the tilt?

The fact that people have to dilute this entire situation to a generalisation "poker is about winning money from worse players" speaks volumes. No one has said that you shouldn't sit down with terrible players and win their money. Of course you should, and I do this consistently. However, your question completely ignores the context in which some of these people - specifically "6betpot" - are acting under.

Let's not forget that 6betpot entered this thread with a "surprise announcement" of his feats from "insane bumhunting at the lowest stakes possible" in which he posts his results versus Paisting and claims:

and

which is fair enough. I'd say this is a good decision. Yet despite stopping because bumhunting Paisting was too distracting and not feeling good about what he's doing, he is apparently still doing it months later:

- 10/07/2020

Why would you continue to do this after claiming you were stopping because it's too distracting from your normal grind - suggesting this isn't particularly beneficial to you financially - and you feel bad about doing it?

Then comes the clincher, the ultimatum. 6betpot knows what he is doing causes distress for Paisting and says the following:

At the very least this is directly translatable to "do what I want or I'll keep doing what I'm doing". If what 6betpot is doing is something which is adverse to Paisting as a person, I would suggest this quote is a direct example of a form of blackmail.

Diluting all of this into a case of "poker is about making money from weaker players" is very disingenuous to the people speaking out about these actions as we're talking about this SPECIFIC case and this specific case alone.

Just because it distracts from his normal grind doesn't mean it isn't financially beneficial or detrimental to him.

There's 2 particular individuals at 2 of my regular casinos I'll drop down to bumhunt because it's massively profitable.

One is an ******* who shows up with 3k in his pocket to play 1/2 with an almost identical style to Paisting.

The other is a pretty likeable guy who also plays like Paisting at 1/3 and has a 10k stop/loss......and he always loses.

If you play poker to make money, you take what money is there, and you take the low hanging fruit first. If you have different intentions or you think you're doing something other than that, you're lying to yourself.

There are no heros in poker. Only losing villains and super villains.

He directly said that he was stopping because it was both distracting and it did not feel good to do. How can this be interpreted as anything but what he was doing was detrimental to him? Granted, I may have spoken out of turn implying this was financially detrimental.

Who cares about who you play with? It has nothing to do with this specific situation or the points I've brought up at all.

Again, you're generalising all of my points into "poker is about making money from weaker players". I am not saying you should not sit down with weak players in order to win money. I'm questioning the CONTEXT under which a certain person is doing this in this SPECIFIC situation.

This specific victim (Paisting) knowingly and continuously subjects himself to the same villains and the same outcome repeatedly and voluntarily. The villains are not acting outside of the rules of the game that all participants are willingly and voluntarily of their own volition engaging in. My examples of who I'm playing with were there just to put into context the fact that Paisting, while, rare, is not unique. Paisting is just unique in that he posts and documents his failures.

6betpot can tell himself whatever he needs to so that he can sleep at night. He knows what he's doing, and it's not wrong in the world of poker. If you can't live with being a villain, the Red Cross is always looking for volunteers. If you can, take every penny the weak put on the table.

The "ethics" people should stop playing poker immediately.
Biggest bulls.... I ever heart ("do not play against a loser in poker")

I will open a 888 account today and try to play against paisting (and that because of the stupid advice "stop playing against paisting")

I would if i was I Europe.

The whole life is about ethic. And the most people here in this thread acting like ***..They have no clue how much of a ****** b*** they write here every day and support pasting in his f*** to play poker and lose money every day over and over again. Poker is not only about winning or losing its also about to know that another people are suffering...
and if you don't give a f** about this you should know you are not better person. Maybe you are winning money in this game but your personality is like ***
People should know that OP is a f*** bad pokerplayer maybe the worst pokerplayer on the planet and no one can ever imagine what is going on in his head, he should ban from all kind of gambling and should go to the therapy for a long time to get out of his *** mindset. Some people know that and write here some advice but OP and the another people just give a *** about this.
Stop writing here and mods please close this thread.
Everybody is quilty here!!

I do agree that this thread should be closed. Although many people are telling him to quit, a lot of people are encouraging a clearly mentally ill person to financially ruin himself. It's a bit of a grey area. I would personally close the thread but it remains open.

Do we have any indication of his background? If he comes from wealth or has a good job then I don't see any problem. If not then yeah, this thread should probably be closed.

I just wonder if closing it will even help this guy. Hasn't he had multiple threads in the past and even a thread that they closed. I would assume he would just make another one.

regardless of what people post ITT, he will just continue to punt every loan / welfare he gets until he dies or sites ban him. yeah, doing the same ******ed thing for a decade and then just suddenly stop because noone comments on his internet diary, psh.

Lmfao. Most people who suck at poker think they don't. OP included. You don't get a trophy for winning at cash game. Your prize is cash. If you lose, your only "participation trophy" is your ATM receipt. Poker is literally legalized bullying. You win by beating up weaker people than yourself and avoiding those who can beat you up. If you have any other delusions about the game, it's not for you.

Paisting thinks he's good at poker but he's been losing at -200bb/100 for 15 years at 2nl. There is almost no level of delusion higher than that. Nothing we say or do will change him.

But if his threads get closed, at least people wouldn't be able to encourage him. If he still continues to do what he's doing after that, then fair enough.

He did it for 12/13 years before this thread.

Hi Paisting, longtime lurker with some honest advice.

When you chat-rage, don't tell people how you're going to murder them. Just wish terrible diseases upon them, or tell them you hope terrible things happen to their loved one. This way, you convey your emotions adequately without crossing any legal thresholds.

Good luck bro, rooting for you.