Patrick. 3hours left before u owe me 500 usd. This is making you look pretty stupid. Any last words?

What the hell are you talking about? I told you we will 1) fix it on skype and 2) wtf is this imaginary shot clock you have put me under?

If you want to do timed prop I'm all for it. Considering I'm a "chit pussy phaggot MTT luck box" and you're the best poker player In the world we can crossbook 100-1000% and I'll make a reappearance to 500z for the first 2 weeks of Barcelona. Both have to play minimum 4 hours every single day and we can both send to d7 before.

I guess you think I'm -1bb and you're +8? We can do 6 instead of 9 handicap. If you think I'm -1 then it's even better odds than you're getting in this challenge with mixgrill etc. very good chance I'm even worse than -1bb!

I'll send 20k to d7 now if you want to do it.

wowo calm down, his entire networth is prob less than 20k

no1 cares what ops networth is or isnt, aslong he keeps up with the trashtalk

Agreed about the shotclock, you can't just invent a number and start timing down from it demanding people send you money.

loooooooooooooooooool

Cant make bold assumptions based on your personal situation imo

=half of this thread.

Yeah 24 hours isn't enough to copy paste some skype logs. Patrick also claims he would settle this on Skype but hasn't replied to me since I posted the Joris chatlogs. And then he comes back in the thread asking to propbet me on 500z. What?

Also why do u want to settle this privately all of the sudden after calling me out publicly?

Have messaged you on skype! You challenging me there to play 1knl hu really makes little to no sense lol but if we can agree terms where it's neutral ev then let's fkn go!

popcorns please

Why so much ego boys ? pads you could have just said sorry i made a mistake and it was not intentional and its sorted than and there. saying sorry and ending the issue is the best way to fix our mistake.

Never seen Oscar so angry

That would be really boring tho

I apologized for posting itt and straight after asked mods to delete.

Meanwhile he's on skype calling me a midget feminine phaggot and asking me to play 1knlhu.


I'm definitely not an angel here or in general though, not trying to come across like that sorry. Shouldn't have initially posted I guess.

I accepted and we will hopefully play tonight and I commited to playing all weekend. waiting to see what terms he will offer.

I'm happy to say sorry not play and stop all the insults too, promised myself I will stop getting into these silly arguments.

Okay here goes my last post regarding the whole Patrick thing. I'll just post the skypelogs and thread will continue as usual.

[10:36:50 PM] Patrick: Hey
[10:37:02 PM] Patrick: Sorry I haven't been on skype or saw these
[10:37:13 PM] Patrick: I've been in lhone whole time
[10:37:21 PM] Patrick: Lhone
[10:37:23 PM] Patrick: Lhone
[10:37:26 PM] Patrick: Phone lol
[10:37:38 PM] Patrick: Why on earth would we play 1knlhu?!?!
[10:39:05 PM] Jason: Forget about it.
[10:39:11 PM] Jason: What about the claims you made?
[10:39:17 PM] Jason: Can you provide proof or not?
[10:40:01 PM] Patrick: What are you talking about again? You even knew that Joris alone messages were not in skype?!
[10:40:05 PM] Patrick: Why do you keep doing this
[10:40:18 PM] Patrick: I really don't get what is in your head
[10:40:22 PM] Patrick: I want to like you
[10:40:34 PM] Patrick: But you just keep spouting off illogical ****
[10:40:55 PM] Jason: Okay. Calm down.
[10:40:56 PM] Patrick: Is the guy in your picture you?
[10:41:05 PM] Jason: Im fine its all good. Yeah that's me.
[10:41:11 PM] Patrick: And
[10:41:19 PM] Patrick: You're 31 wtf?!
[10:41:32 PM] Jason: Im not 31.
[10:41:43 PM] Patrick: How old are you?
[10:42:16 PM] Jason: Look Patrick. Can we exclusively talk about the bet u accepted?
[10:42:36 PM] Patrick: Sure
[10:42:44 PM] Jason: Okay good.
[10:42:52 PM] Patrick: But as we have already stipulated
[10:43:09 PM] Patrick: You know I don't have the logs from Joris. This is what we spoke about for fkn hours yesterday
[10:43:13 PM] Patrick: If we did
[10:43:18 PM] Patrick: It would be so much simpler
[10:43:34 PM] Patrick: So obviously the logs from everybody from 5 years ago or whatever it was won't be there
[10:45:48 PM] Patrick: We just do simple lie detector test. If I lose I pay for the test too np. You know I don't have the logs from 5 years ago
[10:45:57 PM] Patrick: Hence why Joris couldn't post anything
[10:46:09 PM] Patrick: He doesn't even have the logs from you and him talking about it all
[10:46:11 PM] Jason: Patrick. You said multiple legit people.
[10:46:13 PM] Jason: Multiple
[10:46:16 PM] Patrick: Yes
[10:46:19 PM] Jason: Okay.
[10:46:21 PM] Jason: How many?
[10:46:26 PM] Jason: You said u can provide proof
[10:46:29 PM] Jason: Can u?
[10:47:15 PM] Jason: Thats the only question u have to answer
[10:47:49 PM] Patrick: "I am willing to propbet 500 usd that Patrick did not have multiple legit people contact him claiming I scammed them"
[10:48:01 PM] Patrick: You don't understand
[10:48:33 PM] Patrick: Everybody was warning everybody about you and your antics. I remember I was actually the one sticking up for you and like now saying you just needed help
[10:48:42 PM] Jason: Who is everybody?
[10:48:57 PM] Patrick: Yesterday very well known person even messaged me saying I should post and warn people in your thread
[10:49:03 PM] Patrick: Then realized I had already done it
[10:49:09 PM] Patrick: You have to realise
[10:49:13 PM] Patrick: This isn't me against you
[10:49:19 PM] Jason: Patrick.
[10:49:21 PM] Jason: Post proof
[10:49:24 PM] Patrick: Or that I have some issue with you. I want you to do well
[10:49:25 PM] Jason: Or send 500 usd
[10:49:31 PM] Patrick: Lol man you really don't listen
[10:49:32 PM] Jason: Its that simple
[10:49:38 PM] Jason: No i dont
[10:49:46 PM] Patrick: The question was did people message me
[10:49:48 PM] Patrick: I said yes
[10:49:54 PM] Jason: No
[10:49:55 PM] Patrick: You know there is no logs from years ago
[10:49:59 PM] Jason: Question was
[10:50:03 PM] Jason: Can u provide proof
[10:50:05 PM] Jason: Can u?
[10:50:08 PM] Patrick: No it wasn't
[10:50:11 PM] Patrick: Read your message
[10:50:17 PM] Patrick: I am willing to propbet 500 usd that Patrick did not have multiple legit people contact him claiming I scammed them.
[10:50:25 PM] Jason: Lol.
[10:50:30 PM] Jason: Ok
[10:50:36 PM] Jason: So can u provide names?
[10:50:42 PM] Jason: Who are the multiple people?
[10:50:53 PM] Jason: Joris already said specifically he didnt say to u i scammed him
[10:51:36 PM] Jason: Answer this.
[10:51:41 PM] Jason: Just this.
[10:51:44 PM] Jason: No talk around
[10:51:48 PM] Jason: Just this question
[10:51:50 PM] Jason: One name.
[10:52:06 PM] Jason: Ill apologize publicly if u name one.
[10:52:13 PM] Patrick: Lol Jason
[10:52:19 PM] Jason: Name?
[10:52:48 PM] Patrick: Will you stop with this apologise publically
[10:52:51 PM] Jason: Outplayed.
[10:52:57 PM] Jason: Shut the **** up.
[10:52:57 PM] Patrick: As I said to you millions of times
[10:53:00 PM] Patrick: Outplayed? ��
[10:53:02 PM] Jason: Ure a liar.
[10:53:02 PM] Patrick: Man
[10:53:04 PM] Jason: Bye.


Regarding the "many people said or had shady dealings with me". That's a lie. I have never been involved in any shady dealings. I have never really been involved with any other regulars of my stakes. I've always been a stand up guy I'd never not own up to a mistake I made especially if it's something like this. Also why hasn't any of these people come to this thread and called me out. I mean Patrick makes it sound like they're his friends. Where are they?

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(keep in mind Patrick was a 100% aware that this was me at the time of making that post. He had me on Skype and could have contacted me)
[7/21/2016 11:16:58 PM] joris: Patrick should not have posted implying that I accuse you of scamming me as I didn't tell you that I think you did or him.

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Regarding the $500 Patrick owes me. I don't care if he pays or not. I understand what is going on in his mind. He's a little boy desperately seeking for acceptance and attention and the only strategy he knows is to try and be cool with everyone. Side with the majority like the scared little coward he is and has been his entire life. He can't deal with confrontation. That's okay. There is many like him.

Please don't get in my way again.


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Also dennis please remove that graph that shows you're up against me. You're down against me and that graph is not an actual 'vs player graph'.

Also Fayth. You're pathetic.

Pontylad, you know what I think off you but props for not deleting the posts.

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This is cleared up now. Thread and propbets will continue as before.

As an unbiased opinion it looks like Jason won the prop bet against oursurvey.

Jason threw out the prop, our survey booked it, and I haven't seen any proof from oursurvey.

Prove that more than 1 person reached out to you about alleged scams, or pay the man.

+1

And then the KJ analysis.

Lol Jason's "last" post on the topic posting half of a chat log?!

I think I made it very clear way before any bet was booked about anything that all logs from 5 years ago are obviously untraceable now. Skype max logs is 1-2 years ago.

People itt just clearly don't know Jason because he's posting on his 20th 2p2 account most of the other ones he causes controversy/gets called out and then he makes a new one. Anybody and everybody who was around there spoke to eachother and warned eachother of his multiple tricks and lies and scams.

I never posted anywhere abot posting any chat logs I've always said and Joris posted itt they were too old.

Again and my last post about it

1- I read this thread few times and laughed at the humour
2- started to read the thread and was like wait a minute
3- saw that friends of people I was living with bet on this
4- always remembered this guy being broke/losing at low stakes
5- remembered this guy always ran away from 2p2 screen names, created new names
6/ remembered everybody having problems with him from his insults, to scamming to whatever else
7- remembered Joris posted to me ages ago about Jason scamming him or Doug something unethical and oweing him money
8- havnet spoken to Jason in 3, maybe 4 years?
9- saw other people posted wanting to buy action including mixgrill who I spoke to on skype and seemed like a good guy
10- decided to post because i had very bad feeling about it and anybody who previously was around would have said same thing
11- realized I should have just got Joris to post
12- asked 2p2 to remove the post
13/ received tonnes of insults from Jason calling me a ******, pussy phaggot, feminine etc etc
14- other micro gaming regs from back in the day posted itt about Jason being Jason
15- respectable Player messaged me on skype after reading the start of the thread/bet being accepted that I should post and warn people (then he realized I actually did)
16- Jason says people have never called him shady/scammer
17- I lol as every micro gaming gaming reg from 2p2 has spoken previously to me about Jason being Jason which includes scamming, lying, multiple accounts, insults etc etc
18- he says "I prop bet you 2 legit people having said I'm a scammer/scammed them"
19- I say lol of course they have. I know they have so just assume I've won the bet and offer to give him the money instantly back with seeing a Pyschologist, I don't want his fkn money lol
20- he starts giving me 1 hour time downs that I apparantly agreed to (I obviously didn't) and said I should post all the "proofs" and "log he knows as we've establish way earlier that these logs were deleted, that's where all the problems came with Joris. Joris isn't a friend of mine or somebody I've spoken to for years. We went different paths after I quit cash games years ago.
21- Jason again starts sending me barrage of abuse on skype, randomly calling me a pussy, **** at poker, asking me to play him 1khu (i agreed to crossbook him vs me at better terms than he's made in the thread and escrow before we play)

Let Jason carry on with his thread, it will bring a lot of entertainment to the masses. I still think Donald should have made him escrow before, he has a history of going broke or trying to play too high. But whatever their business is their business. I'm more than happy to give a favourable crossbook to Jason playing vs him if it means he gets to 100k bankroll or I send him broke. I don't doubt he's better at cash games than me, I'm old and withered, but happy to gamble it up in the name of Johnu Bax.

Happy to leave this thread and not post again too, it's been a unnecessary detour although i did it with the good intentions.

Prop bet or no prop bet I'm Happy to end it and buy you 3 lessons with Elliot Roe (750$ value) and apologise.

Yours faithfully
Your favourite orange drinking, dick loving, midget features, chit reg, phaggot pussy.
Xo

Since I unintentionally started this mess that derailed the thread and got the focus to shift away from what the people want to see - poker drama and trashtalk - I'd be willing to come up with a little friendly wager to get things back on track and please the crowd.

If there is an interest from OP we can discuss details here. I don't have anything specific in mind, but since OP seems to believe he is some sort of mega crusher at 500nlz, I'd be willing to match his winrate.... at 1kNL. So in other words, whatever winrate he thinks he can get in 500nlz I'm saying I will get at 1knl. Since I live in the US I will be playing those hands mainly on Brovada ( and some on BOL ). 20k hands would be fine for me.

I was actually considering starting a thread tracking my results to reach a winrate of 5BB/100 (10bb/100)at 1knl anyway, so another idea would be to just both set that as a goal and see who comes closest. Again.. I'm happy to wager my action on 1knl against yours on 500nlz.

I'm not willing to bet any significant amount of money on this, but would be happy to bet $500 or $1000 for entertainment value.

The fact that I am offering this does not change how I feel about OP in any way. He was a major douche/ not trustworthy years ago and by the looks of it still is ( talking about the douchy part, since I have not interacted with him in many years I don't know much about the trustworthy part these days). He also definitely breached our staking agreement back then at the very least, and from what I remember ( and Patrick ) screwed me out of some money. Again, I do not have any proof of this and am in no way claiming that he owes me anything. I will never be able to come up with the chat logs between him and I so as far as I'm concerned he is completely off the hook. It is just how I remember things. The suggestion from OP that I contacted him after all this time because I'm broke and looking for money is quite funny. I do think that getting this thread back on track by offering some healthy competition might be beneficial for the ( by now many I suppose ) readers and should excuse the fact that I unwillingly caused the derail in the first place.

Since OP is not able to have a mature conversation on skype any communication for now can go through here. If there is no interest then that is absolutely fine too and I will stop posting.

Cheers.

You still haven't named one person Patrick.

And you're offering to apologize and give me 750$ in coaching value? Why? If this is all true why are you offering this?

I mean if there really were friends of you talking about this why don't you just link this thread and let them confirm?

This is getting boring now

Excuse me, but isn't Bovada likely ****loads softer than Stars?