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08-12-2016 , 08:20 AM
the O8 scurra thread

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08-12-2016 , 10:19 AM
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08-12-2016 , 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by omybike
Ok i can hate on your lack of research. I will just say first 1k o8 mtt i made over 30$ game.
but i guess thanks for the support


BTW i dont based that i am the best o8 mtt player on my mtt result (even tho i dont run good in them i think).
But i based it way more on me having go to low stakes cash to highest and doing well. And ofcourse i see how people play in mtt and i clearly see how much better i am
But you are not better than almost all of the top mtt players. You are a spewtard and you play as high variance as possible. And yes you have run good in a lot of stuff in the past year. Well done.

Now stop being so ******ed and ask for a self ban.
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08-12-2016 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by omybike
I never say i was born as the best player in the word, i say i became the best o8 mtt player in the world. hating on results 3 years ago is little bit easy but even then i was an outlayer. i completed a challenge 10$ to 10K within 6 month at start of my poker jouney. Good luck with finding guys who did this too after black Friday.
I think every player is BE for 1,000 MTT at some point. It is also possible if u play HU to be roughly BE for longer time. I'm not hating results just saying u are no different from many other winning players. Doing $10 to $10K in 6 months has been done in O8 by lots of players, some have done it several times since BF and more than one in a year. The hardest thing u can do in O8 is make several FT in series (WCOOP etc) and do well in weekly high stakes. You have done that so congrats but it's not always up to u if u can win or not. If u go 1,000 MTT BE at highest stakes how many years O8 play is that?


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First i tought you only say bull****. but i have to admit this part let me reconsider my play. After taking your math and tune them and calculate i came to suprising conclusions as you also came.
Definitly an eye opener, never look at game this way you describe here. probably because it has been working so wel to insta go allin with 50+bb and just make suckout.
U should always check math of random idiot on internet. My math is wrong. It will be 4 orbits for player other than u to have top 5% hand, 8 orbits for AA. Also 5% of 300 hands is 15 not 30

Everybody makes mistakes every time they play, even sometimes simple mistakes. If there is a "best player" he or she takes the maximum on offer with the fewest mistakes. To get the max u need to be aggro and to make few mistakes u need to be tight. This is why TAG is generally better than LAG if skill is equal in both.

U mention one TAG (bedias) but there are plenty. What about nilsef, jasonmercier, cal42688? There are lots of guys who play MTT who never play O8 cash. I'm not saying any of them are the best but on their day they are the best, like maybe you and me
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08-12-2016 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Svoloch'Stars

U mention one TAG (bedias) but there are plenty. What about nilsef, jasonmercier, cal42688? There are lots of guys who play MTT who never play O8 cash. I'm not saying any of them are the best but on their day they are the best, like maybe you and me
i was trolling you what strategy about the hand. you have obv zero clue where you talking about. you only spew nonsense and bull****.

nilsef is decent sometimes bumhunting cash
cal42688 is just a fish on cash and ******
jason is bad reg in o8

this players nothing to do with tag
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08-12-2016 , 05:42 PM
this thread is gold.

Be thankful the US isn't online anymore. The likes of assani, shaqalicious, and fedigan (just to name a couple) would have eaten you for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
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08-13-2016 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by thirdaccount
The likes of assani, shaqalicious, and fedigan (just to name a couple) would have eaten you for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
This is complete nonsense. Sure OMB is a dick (on purpose), but as I've been around for 10 years I can guarantee that he is at least on par with the ones mentioned. I also think this whole thread was designed for trolling purposes and OMB is obviously much better in cash than in MTT.
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08-13-2016 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by amok
This is complete nonsense. Sure OMB is a dick (on purpose), but as I've been around for 10 years I can guarantee that he is at least on par with the ones mentioned. I also think this whole thread was designed for trolling purposes and OMB is obviously much better in cash than in MTT.
Usually a large ego is the downfall of players who have similar skill sets/earning power in this game.
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08-13-2016 , 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Svoloch'Stars
Oh I see. So a good player can go like 1-3,000 games on break even in any format of poker. This is just as well because you were a losing player over a 1,000 game streak in your MTT filtered O8 results. Wow the best player in the world went 1,000 MTTs losing. Then I see in your extended stats that you were actually break even for 20,000 games over like 2 years. That might include a lot of HU but it's still not a record I would like to have.

OMB be humble. NEVER claim to be the best poker player in the world because in the nature of this game the "best player" does not exist. There are 3 types of player in the world
1) Those who know what they are doing and make the correct play the majority of the time
2) Those on heater who think they know what they are doing and believe in - EV plays
3) Amateurs and losing players

You are definitely a #2 or #3, given that you don't understand enough to ever claim to be a #1



You are such hard work. First of all, there were 2 players in the hand so odds of being called by a top 2% hand are > 2%. Yes in isolation the big stack has a 2% chance to have a 2% hand but does he only call 2%? NO and I tell u why. If he has a brain and sees how u play or what u say in 2+2, then he knows u shove wider than 2%, so make it 5% snap-call range and 10% probably call range (remember equity is 40/60 so you can GII against top 2% according to best MTT player in the world)

So the odds of you being called are now 5-10%

If you make the same play with top 8.3% hands every time because it is correct and standard, then after 50 hands you will have shoved roughly 7 times in 6-max. By then the dealer will have dealt 300 total hands and dealt AA roughly 7 times, top 5% hands 30 times. I would tell you to do the math but in your own words, "I don't think you understand the question to truly answer it". If you logically progress the math you are going to get called more than 2% which should come as no surprise when you did it like 3 times in 20 hands in that MTT? If we assume the other players are still breathing then the more you make this play the wider the field will play against you, SO, the range that people insta-call you will be >> 2%.

Now 67 BB. Let's take the hand in the MTT that was played. If we assume you win 100% vs the small stack at showdown and take the BB from the big stack, you are winning 18.2 BBs per hand. To double up you need 4 orbits. How long until statistically you get called by big stack with a top 5% hand? Roughly 3 orbits. I know you are not Einstein but hopefully even a stick in the mud like you can see how that's a leak under favourable conditions and a huge leak (for you) if the field is good. If you had significantly less than 67 BB your aggro play would be fine but as it stands, it just amateur shovetard - EV play

I am happy for you to be good and give strat, tell story etc but you are claiming to be the best ever when there must be 1,000 guys + on 2+2 who can equal or better your game on any given day. This annoys everybody. Think about that for future.
Do you really think the probability of the blinds being dealt a top 10% hand is the same when we have an ace in our hand? What about when we include the initial opener?

Blockers innit

Its obvious you were a troll when you mentioned cal as a tag (do you watch or play poker?). Stop using random poker words from 2006 and think.

AND only one of the guys behind covers us....

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08-13-2016 , 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by amok
This is complete nonsense. Sure OMB is a dick (on purpose), but as I've been around for 10 years I can guarantee that he is at least on par with the ones mentioned. I also think this whole thread was designed for trolling purposes and OMB is obviously much better in cash than in MTT.
i liked trolling you to on forum too but have to admit i dont like you at the table.
The last part is maybe not true i think about skill difference i am better in o8 mtt. obv all cash game experience made me best mtt player for sure.
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08-14-2016 , 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by thirdaccount
this thread is gold.

Be thankful the US isn't online anymore. The likes of assani, shaqalicious, and fedigan (just to name a couple) would have eaten you for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
thanks,

maybe if they would keep playing and inproven.
I am sure if i could travel with time machine to that times i would crush everyone without effort
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08-14-2016 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Demonic16
Do you really think the probability of the blinds being dealt a top 10% hand is the same when we have an ace in our hand? What about when we include the initial opener?

Blockers innit

Its obvious you were a troll when you mentioned cal as a tag (do you watch or play poker?). Stop using random poker words from 2006 and think.

AND only one of the guys behind covers us....
Do u read Mr. Dimonic? I explained that in next post

Words innit

U guys are hard to understand. Best MTT player in world is NOT limited to guys who win at Omaha ****ing 8. Just idiot like OMB thinks that shoving wide and winning over a small sample makes him king dick. He's only half right

For cal or jason or nilsef I just pick 3 random names I know have won a lot more than OMB in O8 and are vastly superior MTT players. Cal was #1 in world few years ago including big scores in O8? Jason one of best MTT player for sure and nilsef is $million prizes every year on line. This is not about cash. This is about MTT and the beauty of MTT is shared by all MTT games. The best NLHE MTT player or PLO or Stud/8 would eat a wide shoving ICM and GTO ignoring fish like OMB for breakfast.

U guys annoy me with your BS but as butt buddies I'm sure your ignorance is bliss. Now OMB is claiming his cash game play makes him for sure the best MTT player, what an ignorant dickhole.

Last edited by Svoloch'Stars; 08-14-2016 at 01:40 PM. Reason: GOAT make $2,500 this year LOLOL wp Mr. GOAT
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08-14-2016 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by omybike
thanks,

maybe if they would keep playing and inproven.
I am sure if i could travel with time machine to that times i would crush everyone without effort
It is always good to dream. If you don't want to play amok you don't want to tangle with those guys either.

Keep that ego on full throttle. I'm sure it will work out for you.
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08-14-2016 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Svoloch'Stars
Do u read Mr. Dimonic? I explained that in next post

Words innit

U guys are hard to understand. Best MTT player in world is NOT limited to guys who win at Omaha ****ing 8. Just idiot like OMB thinks that shoving wide and winning over a small sample makes him king dick. He's only half right

For cal or jason or nilsef I just pick 3 random names I know have won a lot more than OMB in O8 and are vastly superior MTT players. Cal was #1 in world few years ago including big scores in O8? Jason one of best MTT player for sure and nilsef is $million prizes every year on line. This is not about cash. This is about MTT and the beauty of MTT is shared by all MTT games. The best NLHE MTT player or PLO or Stud/8 would eat a wide shoving ICM and GTO ignoring fish like OMB for breakfast.

U guys annoy me with your BS but as butt buddies I'm sure your ignorance is bliss. Now OMB is claiming his cash game play makes him for sure the best MTT player, what an ignorant dickhole.
You mention nothing to do with blockers, or how having an ace in our hand reduces the likelihood of our opponent having a top x% hand. Why wouldn't you mention the actual reduction in probability? Or have you never actually done the math?

Bike is obviously claiming to be the best o8 mtter, and not in every game. You obviously know absolutely nothing about cals game. I think even if you asked him he would say O8 isn't a particularly strong game for him, as would Mercier.

I don't particularly like Bike, he called me out publicly for my results over a completely irrelevant sample and continues to tool off both on the forum and elsewhere. Having said all that, I am quite capable of removing my feelings about a particular person especially when it comes to someone spouting off absolute nonsense. I wouldn't have commented on your post at all, if I didn't think my posting would potentially help you learn as I thought that was what you were trying to do instead of attempting to call someone out.

It has been pretty obvious your a huge troll for a little while so I won't be responding to you further. Why on earth would you mention stud8 for example? I'm fairly sure you don't realise Bike is specifically talking about o8, as that is the only possible explanation for you to bring up other games.
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08-14-2016 , 11:15 PM
As one of the people who thinks OMB spews mostly negativity I can say a few things.

1. Anyone who says hes lucky that the Americans can't play seriously has no clue. As one of the Americans who won a bunch pre black friday I can assure you its a completely different game now. They might be able to hang a little in PL but 100000000% guarentee they would get whiped up in NL for a while until they learned all the bet sizing nuances. (I had a long break even stretch after returning until I got to where I am this year winning at like 20 a game)

2. I'm not having a strat discussion about this, because most nit regs have not figured this out yet, but.... EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO WIN AT 15+ A GAME PLAY SOME VARIANT OF A HYPER AGGRESSIVE STYLE THAT INCORPORATES MASSIVE SHOVES. Just because some people have not figured that out (and im not picking on you billy so dont get defensive haha) does not mean its a bad strategy.

3. There are around 10 regs that have kind of seperated themselves from the pack in terms of ability at this point in o8, and no I am not going to name them all off. OMB is without question in that group so anyone who thinks hes not really good at the game is just flat out wrong.

The guy might be arrogant and think hes the best (aka hes a poker player) and for sure rubs most people the wrong way (myself included) but anyone who attacks his play for the most part is wrong (I am sure you can find some spews, because you know, we all do it)
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08-15-2016 , 02:24 AM
in for the chat
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08-15-2016 , 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by DaCus3
As one of the people who thinks OMB spews mostly negativity I can say a few things.

1. Anyone who says hes lucky that the Americans can't play seriously has no clue. As one of the Americans who won a bunch pre black friday I can assure you its a completely different game now. They might be able to hang a little in PL but 100000000% guarentee they would get whiped up in NL for a while until they learned all the bet sizing nuances. (I had a long break even stretch after returning until I got to where I am this year winning at like 20 a game)

2. I'm not having a strat discussion about this, because most nit regs have not figured this out yet, but.... EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO WIN AT 15+ A GAME PLAY SOME VARIANT OF A HYPER AGGRESSIVE STYLE THAT INCORPORATES MASSIVE SHOVES. Just because some people have not figured that out (and im not picking on you billy so dont get defensive haha) does not mean its a bad strategy.

3. There are around 10 regs that have kind of seperated themselves from the pack in terms of ability at this point in o8, and no I am not going to name them all off. OMB is without question in that group so anyone who thinks hes not really good at the game is just flat out wrong.

The guy might be arrogant and think hes the best (aka hes a poker player) and for sure rubs most people the wrong way (myself included) but anyone who attacks his play for the most part is wrong (I am sure you can find some spews, because you know, we all do it)
agree with you pretty much and I certainly would not have thought you are referring to me seeing as I have won consistently year in year out pre and post BF. But my game has changed probably more significantly than I know myself to a semi HT style depending on what I am playing. It's the only way not to get destroyed but variance is pretty frustrating and for me it's not an enjoyable way to play but for many of the structures and fields it's the most effective way to play. However I try to mix it up more and find edges other ways versus 1 gear super aggro regs.

Actually I predict I will make more this year/higher ROI once I come off current downswing which hasn't helped my ROI this year as been BE for a few months. But I have been playing huge volume with every game you can think of at all stakes in my sessions so that's got to stop and game select better.

I still like to get in as much post flop play though as I can as I have a bigger edge now over pretty much all o8 regs. Which is why PL is my best/preferred game.
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08-15-2016 , 07:06 AM
So thought i'd separate mine out into all o8's and only ST's.

I ran well in high stakes at beginning of year but have ran terribly since they moved to 320's and lost a lot there. :/



34% seems a pretty good ROI in the hypers. I'd imagine anything over 20% is decent. Any1 thoughts on a good ROI's for these?

Last edited by billygstar; 08-15-2016 at 07:08 AM. Reason: Hope you don't freak that this is hijacking your blog omb ha. Just seems like a worthwhile discussion.
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08-16-2016 , 10:35 AM
Billy you always talk big and now posting results on microstakes trying to brag. You suck bigtime vs any serious competition.

I remember time you got so mess up in your head about who really are skillfull that you say you would come and battle me at cash game tables. Funny how some hands from your friend where i spew make you believe you got even small Chance to beat me.
Did not see you ever come and play me, i will multi table you with at least 8 other guys on this forum who think i suck at the same time.
To make it little bit more of challenge for me i will fap at the same time because i am pretty confident i will still crush you.
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08-16-2016 , 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by omybike
Billy you always talk big and now posting results on microstakes trying to brag. You suck bigtime vs any serious competition.

I remember time you got so mess up in your head about who really are skillfull that you say you would come and battle me at cash game tables. Funny how some hands from your friend where i spew make you believe you got even small Chance to beat me.
Did not see you ever come and play me, i will multi table you with at least 8 other guys on this forum who think i suck at the same time.
To make it little bit more of challenge for me i will fap at the same time because i am pretty confident i will still crush you.
ok deal..at least 8 tbles and not all o8
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08-16-2016 , 11:35 AM
just tell me when
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08-16-2016 , 11:36 AM
pls don't fap though..i have seen how nerdy/ugly u are
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08-16-2016 , 11:38 AM
lets play 8 game...any stakes....tonight?
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08-16-2016 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by billygstar
lets play 8 game...any stakes....tonight?
Please let this happen
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08-16-2016 , 11:51 AM
ftr I have played zero cash game sin 2 years...u can check...on any site. so surely its +ev to play me...
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