congrats on ur score, bike. it would be better if u post some graphs from pt or hm.


whats ur $ goal this year?

1. 22 years old

2. have play some but just for fun and it soft. nothing too big

3. no, i am in close to all formats the better o8 player. bokkie only better hyper sit en go typs o8

4. nope not easy but depend where you coming from

5.depend where you are right now. depend if you have money to invest etc etc start feeling playing o8 and get good principle of poker strategy concept in general. then take coaching and play a lot.

6. depends what kind of coaching/ format. i definitely could turn down guys that wanne pay 500$ hour+ but could give a ambitions lower toernement player coaching on right times for 50$ hour or so. But it al negotionalble what people wanne learn.
But imo i think i will be cheap at beginning now i decide i am open for giving coaching. But probably after while when students doing well and lot good revieuws i will be more expensive and picky who i want to coach.

thanks
i dont use that programs anymore for long time, maybe it is bad or bit lazy from me.


Dont have $ goal this year just want to tilt less and only join highest stakes if i have good reason to do so. so goal making is much with less risk and no stress.

I seriously doubt you are checking JT on the turn as well so you should almost never have that. And he's got AK8 so those sets should be rare too. Leaves 9s (almost never), Qs, and a bunch of 2 pairs that he ties/beats. Agree that there are really no bluffs from you in this spot so I don't think he is bluff catching at all.

wrong on every point.

OK - awesome talking strat with you. Good luck with the blog and the coaching; I will probably just stick with amok's posts myself.

you just tell me in your post how i play. i think it already nice i just tell you that on everything what you say is wrong.
Amok will make you great player.
thanks for good luck wishes.

Maybe next time if i tell you i have lot of J10 on river you can ask what i do with J10 on turn then.
And i would have tell you that i come with 100% of my J10 to the turn and will split my range here with a fair bit of J10 in my check/call range some maybe check/raise depending on action on the turn.
funny you just tell me i bet J10 on turn what kind of response did you think you would get?

going to make strategy post aftis this one about second hand
things did not go so well get hit run and did not play good at all

score since blog: 7850$

tonight will probably play the 320 plo8 highroller but bit tired

I think i can tackle this hand in multiple ways and i will try to do so.
But maybe it first interresting to know how this hand should have been played if people would play correct.

Creatiff111 opens with 16.5bb t 3x bb i think this is already mistake in sizing. With this sizing you giving youself with everything the odds to call a push. And 3x is worst then pushing because now (mostly) the blinds will have the option to get very good odds to see a flop and outflop creatiff111. With anties you want to increase your fold equity here and that why you should play push/fold strategy here. If creatiff111 would have pusht I would over push with my hand, and it totally standard

But he 3x lets look to the options onmybicycle has with A26Qs

Fold
can be short my hand way to strong ahead of opener range and with all anties and blinds.

Call

There are a lot of negative things about calling here let first start with some practical things

1. I call with A26Qs. How do i build my 3x calling range here? What if BB push? Do i want people to exploit me so easy?

I think it not possible to balanced a 3x calling range here, i think i will lose extreemly much EV if i go to cal also AAxx hand to have some calls if BB will push. I dont like the idea to have a calling range here and fold 95%-100% of that vs BB push. On other hand if i call here i give myself close odds vs a bb push imo. This is not holdem.

2. Biggest problem i have with calling is that i give the blinds (and especially bb) the option to call and see a flop what will happen a lot of the time. This is a big problem because postflop i am in a very ****ty spot then (more ****ty then preflop). because the preflop opener will have close to potsize bet left and will put it in high % of time. Now i have to decide on lot of flops that i do hit medium what to do because other bigstack still behind me. What is really bad for realizing my equity with a call preflop.

raise to small size
only worse then pushing allin because if i 3bet i need to call push from BB anyway (because equity run close in this game and odds)


Push allin

I would not say this great play or i will print money doing this. But in some spots you can not always have nuts. And some situations are little bit crappy.
In that kind of spots you can somethings think the other way around. Not "what is the best play i can do" but " what is the less worst play i can do"
I think pushing is better then all other options i have and still will make me $

1. Because Creatiff opens to 3x he has a lot of times at least 1 A in his hand. onmybicycle does also have 1 ace in his hand the change that BB will find AAxx is extreemly close and even vs a lot of AAxx i do pretty fine. So i understand this hand can look ugly for beginning players it just an extreem event that BB find 1 of the best AAxx he can find there.

2. I have so much fold equity on BB when i push that i makes me a lot of money and i want to get it allin vs opener with all the dead money ofcourse

3. Anties, anties , anties because equity's run close it really inportant and you can push with a lot of BB in a lot of spots in o8 because equity run close and you dont lose a lot if you get callt because of that but make a lot of people fold (because of anties)

4. I also push AAxx and so my push range pretty protected vs light calls from BB and i still think BB will overfold if i push here just by experience and because they dont know what going on especially lol mtt players

Hello low stakes MTT player here hoping you will be kind enough to give me some advice. I have watched you play and I really respect your game a lot.

More and more I'm finding that continuation bets just don't work anymore on Stars. Everyone floats always whether they hit or not, so I wind up just checking when I whiff the flop a lot and they seem to take it away nearly every time. It's starting to feel like I'm being outplayed by everyone. Is there any way I can adjust my game to combat this? Maybe raise less pre-flop in the first place and just focus on actually making hands since nobody folds? I've never been good at floating with nothing and stealing pots that way, it seems impossible to do in an arena where nobody ever folds and I always get caught when I try. Perhaps I'm just not all that good at poker.

hey man, I know this question is for bike but ill offer my opinion anyways, I think the best way to combat your problem here,
is to tighten up your opening range to the premium hands and when u hit play it strong, and be prepared to fold missed flops often.

yes the way you talk you probably not good at poker. but lucky for you no one is at low stakes.
I think you not really yet looking in clear way to the problem you face. continuation betting is not some kind of trick to win at poker it no different then any other situation where you have possibility to bet and you should threat it that way imo.
You sound very frustrating too and because of that you dont make clear pictures about what goes wrong " c-bet does not wordk anymore" " i get outplayed by everyone" "Nobody folds" all those things are kinda bull****

Ok i dont know how low stakes exactly play but i can see that there is bunch of people that play like callingstations and passive they will overcall a bunch of spots and flop normally because 4 cards can make always something right. if they overcalling you should get adjust to that. you can do it in couple ways

1. indeed play more tight pre
2. barrel more on later streats after c-bet
3. drop the complete air but semi-bluf more as cbet (if they passive)
4. try different sizing what works normally bet bigger with good hands if they call anyway

When I ask you to explain I was being rhetorical. There is NO OPTIMAL STRATEGY that explains a 67 BB shove with those table dynamics and your hand. You try to explain how you are correct and make no mistake - just like every other 22 yr old noob.

I see your record on sharkscope overall for every game. You might be good at O8 (or just very lucky on small sample) but you clearly suck generally at MTT poker. The best O8 MTT player in the world should know how to play NLHE and every other MTT game because skills you learn apply to all MTT games.

Let me help you friend. Stop calling the field stupid. Stop calling yourself the best in the world. Stop believing in - EV plays that show up as + EV in your profit chart

Your hand explanations are ridiculous and have no basis in known optimal strategy. That you think you can't flat call A 2 (6 Q) to a 3BB raise and fold to a shove is stupid and arrogant. That you think a 67 BB shove is better is borderline ******ed and shows me you have no faith in your true post-flop skill or MTT play. If shove is the right play for you then shove is the right play for everybody and every player must shove every 12 hands - A2(6Q) is a top 8.3% hand. Stupid things like stack sizes and GTO obviously don't apply to the best player in the world

The 3 hands I asked about and my observations from your general play lately prove you are the most standard of idiots - over aggro donk who has a little run good, gets the rush and calls himself the best player in the world. Players like you are everywhere. Players who are more modest, analytical and have a deeper respect for the game and the field are much harder to find. If you want coaching my rate is $500/hour for the best player in the world and yes that will be good value for you - I can change you from losing player in every MTT other than O8 into a winning player and I can help you play O8 properly :-)

Your really really wrong about anything strategic you said.

Fun thread, gl Bike. Do you still think it was a mistake for me to flat the AA in the scoop? I can't remember the exact circumstances but you did tell me you'd shove the SF blocker, and I would have wanted to fold/probably would as I wouldn't have expected any reg to bluff here. Being 3 way and 2nd to act means I have no bluffs on this board either. AAsQsTTs right?

OK you are prob right about that

I am not making a major strategy statement that I am right. I am saying if OMB thinks his shove play with A 2 (6 Q) is standard and correct then it is correct for every hand in the 8.3% range. That is stupid. He wants to justify any play he makes so that it is correct and ignore the field and the equity. If every good player shoves top 8.3% (or worse) then every 6 hands dealt 3 players should shove if 6-max. Maybe OMB can ask Bokkie if that sounds right for $320 MTT and 67 BB or just for hyper-turbo with 10 BB or less.

OMB, thanks for doing the thread.
Love your heart and spirit, don't change any of those!

Questions about the A26Q hand:

1) If the raise is 2x, how does this change your decision? Do you flat a % of the time, and if you 3-bet to 3000-4000 range, can get fold when BB shoves?

2) If this was PLO8, would you play this any differently after the 3x open?

GL in the rest of your journey.

ok i only like to brag about things that i can backup with results because i get lot of hate already for calling myself good.
About the holdem MTT yes i think i am pretty good holdem MTT player (beating midstakes and soft highstakes MTT). If you would filter my results better you would see i have very good results in low en midstacks holde mtt but have 60k downswing on highstakes. Yes with field that big it can happen to good player too. Saying i am bad holdem player is funny if you would know (even when i was worse pokerming then now) i did already good on holdem cash games i played to learn (0.5/1) and yes they play very good there.

You would post is kinda crap and not with lot of arguments. I played this game so much i think i did explain it pretty wel how it works and did not see any counter argument.
you can scream 67BB 100 times but it show you dont understand different kind of spots. Yes i go allin vs only 1 guy affectif behind me with 67BB the change he will cal will be less then 2%
2% mean if i do this 50 times i get called 1 time, that 1 time i will still have 40%+ equity.
I did not wanne trow too much numbers in my post because i did like to see that people who really have no clue about math like you would get some more feel for decision making instead of hardcore numbers. It pity i believe you did not even read my post and all arguments.

Again i am some years ahead of the field and things look strange for people what i do. Funny you call bokkie, i pretty sure he dont care about this play and see for sure good reason to do so to.

Thanks!
I dont remember the hand anymore. but i played a lot of hands different then i did year ago so i can definitly change my mind on this but i dont remember the hand anymore.

pretty good question. i need to guess more on this question because i think things will get way closer.

1) if raise 2x call will become less worse and maybe option, still think push is ok . 3bet is very tricky in this game. It could be that 3bet very very small that opener still can open action if blinds call (so click it back or close to that) could be more of optimal thing to do if you build ranges correctly. But it very hard to understand spots like that in real game play and most of time 3bet folding pretty bad in o8.

2) very good question too. very hard too say it change a lot of things in this spot if it was plo8 i think.
Call become more of option because if BB pot you can peel of to see flop IP maybe (i think i would cal but maybe when i dont have action i would 3bet because it better for my hourly if i bust and do something else). But still i think 3betting pot would be ok too. I dont know about the small 3bet i dont do that a lot in o8 but it could be i do it lot in year. There still so much unknown in strategy in this game also for me.
Btw i think 3betting small is bad even i get bit cold up and results orienteted because of results of hand but just 3bet pot and if BB find hand ul and take the 40%+ i guess.

1. i think a lot the same as other forms of poker. intuition in math is something i see with lot of good players. most of the time aggression and putting pressure.
most important trait i see having winnings omaha 8 players is that they dont like to share pots what i kinda funny in split game.

2. Not like to share pots i will say and act upon that

Oh I see. So a good player can go like 1-3,000 games on break even in any format of poker. This is just as well because you were a losing player over a 1,000 game streak in your MTT filtered O8 results. Wow the best player in the world went 1,000 MTTs losing. Then I see in your extended stats that you were actually break even for 20,000 games over like 2 years. That might include a lot of HU but it's still not a record I would like to have.

OMB be humble. NEVER claim to be the best poker player in the world because in the nature of this game the "best player" does not exist. There are 3 types of player in the world
1) Those who know what they are doing and make the correct play the majority of the time
2) Those on heater who think they know what they are doing and believe in - EV plays
3) Amateurs and losing players

You are definitely a #2 or #3, given that you don't understand enough to ever claim to be a #1

You are such hard work. First of all, there were 2 players in the hand so odds of being called by a top 2% hand are > 2%. Yes in isolation the big stack has a 2% chance to have a 2% hand but does he only call 2%? NO and I tell u why. If he has a brain and sees how u play or what u say in 2+2, then he knows u shove wider than 2%, so make it 5% snap-call range and 10% probably call range (remember equity is 40/60 so you can GII against top 2% according to best MTT player in the world)

So the odds of you being called are now 5-10%

If you make the same play with top 8.3% hands every time because it is correct and standard, then after 50 hands you will have shoved roughly 7 times in 6-max. By then the dealer will have dealt 300 total hands and dealt AA roughly 7 times, top 5% hands 30 times. I would tell you to do the math but in your own words, "I don't think you understand the question to truly answer it". If you logically progress the math you are going to get called more than 2% which should come as no surprise when you did it like 3 times in 20 hands in that MTT? If we assume the other players are still breathing then the more you make this play the wider the field will play against you, SO, the range that people insta-call you will be >> 2%.

Now 67 BB. Let's take the hand in the MTT that was played. If we assume you win 100% vs the small stack at showdown and take the BB from the big stack, you are winning 18.2 BBs per hand. To double up you need 4 orbits. How long until statistically you get called by big stack with a top 5% hand? Roughly 3 orbits. I know you are not Einstein but hopefully even a stick in the mud like you can see how that's a leak under favourable conditions and a huge leak (for you) if the field is good. If you had significantly less than 67 BB your aggro play would be fine but as it stands, it just amateur shovetard - EV play

I am happy for you to be good and give strat, tell story etc but you are claiming to be the best ever when there must be 1,000 guys + on 2+2 who can equal or better your game on any given day. This annoys everybody. Think about that for future.

I never say i was born as the best player in the word, i say i became the best o8 mtt player in the world. hating on results 3 years ago is little bit easy but even then i was an outlayer. i completed a challenge 10$ to 10K within 6 month at start of my poker jouney. Good luck with finding guys who did this too after black Friday.

First i tought you only say bull****. but i have to admit this part let me reconsider my play. After taking your math and tune them and calculate i came to suprising conclusions as you also came.
Definitly an eye opener, never look at game this way you describe here. probably because it has been working so wel to insta go allin with 50+bb and just make suckout.

So you were a BE player for 1000 mtt's and coz of running good for the last 700 you are now the best mtt player in the world. lmao, you clearly have a gr8 understanding of mtt variance. What a ****in champ haha.

And it's hands like that brilliantly played A2Q6 or w/e the **** it was shows you how good you are running in these.

Luv that you spell tournament wrong in the title haha. But who cares. Your are the greatest o8 player in the world. lololololololol

You should stay off the internet forever imo.

Ok i can hate on your lack of research. I will just say first 1k o8 mtt i made over 30$ game.
but i guess thanks for the support


BTW i dont based that i am the best o8 mtt player on my mtt result (even tho i dont run good in them i think).
But i based it way more on me having go to low stakes cash to highest and doing well. And ofcourse i see how people play in mtt and i clearly see how much better i am