Usually I'm posting monthly graphs at the end of the month... This month I've played so far around 17k hands, and running on 8bb/100, hopefully will reach 25k-30k hands by the end of the month and will post a more statistically-significant graph than my current 17k-hands one...
Prob call flop raise, fold turn. I mean, villain in BU ( ) raise on 2 guys, he can have for value : 35, 22, 44, A4, 42 .
he can have as a semi-bluff: 43ss, 54cc, KQcc, KJcc, KTcc, 56cc, 57cc, 46cc, 43cc etc.
Most of his value hands are crushing our hand.
Most of his semi-bluff hands have at least 30% equity vs our hand + position (which means he can always either check-behind turn and take a free card, or he can bet small turn like I did , and check-behind river when he misses / shove PSB on river when he hits).
Just don't think a call-call-call line here is profitable.
Another way you can play it is to 3bet flop, with the intention to fold to a 4bet , and bet turn/ check-call river if villain just flats our 3bet on flop.
I would not fold A2 OTT vs btn. If he can have worse for value, checks back some of the time when he misses. Not like we should get outplayed OTR. Club hits, we fold, and call when we have the flush. On a blank don't see him bluffing too much. Easy fold when he shoves. Yeah not too many things going for us but these are enough for me.
3betting the flop with A2 is intresting. Would you click it back ? If you 3bet I think he plays honestly. Calls FDs. 4bets better hands. He probably should call all better made hands. Not like he should worry about the FDs at all. If you 3bet the best part is you take away his ability to play his FDs as he wants. No more checking back the turn. You bet the turn always. You are in control. And CC river blank and wp if he has a better made hand.
You think raising the flop IP with a FD betting the turn and checking back the river when you miss is a good result for us ? You just bluffed twice. Got called and gave up. Where is the positive spin for us ?
Yeah, prob giving up on turn is the best... I thought he will give me the credit because I practically NEVER go for this line with air, but W/E...
Because of this the flop 3bet is fine. Bluffing a bluffer is always good even if you both don't rep much. But after he calls you are in a spot where he has minimum of Ax 98% of the time and you need to give up.
Prob call flop raise, fold turn. I mean, villain in BU ( ) raise on 2 guys, he can have for value : 35, 22, 44, A4, 42 .
he can have as a semi-bluff: 43ss, 54cc, KQcc, KJcc, KTcc, 56cc, 57cc, 46cc, 43cc etc.
Most of his value hands are crushing our hand.
Most of his semi-bluff hands have at least 30% equity vs our hand + position (which means he can always either check-behind turn and take a free card, or he can bet small turn like I did , and check-behind river when he misses / shove PSB on river when he hits).
what do you think he we do with his semi draws OTT? it looks to me that it could be a leak to call flop raise and then to fold turn? do you expect him to check back draws and bet only value hands? and if he does bet turn with draw can we then except autobet on any river?
How would you play this hand on BTN if you had strong draw and turn misses you?
I would not fold A2 OTT vs btn. If he can have worse for value, checks back some of the time when he misses. Not like we should get outplayed OTR. Club hits, we fold, and call when we have the flush. On a blank don't see him bluffing too much. Easy fold when he shoves. Yeah not too many things going for us but these are enough for me.
3betting the flop with A2 is intresting. Would you click it back ? If you 3bet I think he plays honestly. Calls FDs. 4bets better hands. He probably should call all better made hands. Not like he should worry about the FDs at all. If you 3bet the best part is you take away his ability to play his FDs as he wants. No more checking back the turn. You bet the turn always. You are in control. And CC river blank and wp if he has a better made hand.
You think raising the flop IP with a FD betting the turn and checking back the river when you miss is a good result for us ? You just bluffed twice. Got called and gave up. Where is the positive spin for us ?
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Originally Posted by goranbaxy
what do you think he we do with his semi draws OTT? it looks to me that it could be a leak to call flop raise and then to fold turn? do you expect him to check back draws and bet only value hands? and if he does bet turn with draw can we then except autobet on any river?
How would you play this hand on BTN if you had strong draw and turn misses you?
After thinking it through, I would prob 3bet flop for value, and give up on further action. Calling flop does seems weak, and might go for this line vs agrro fish, with the intention to check-call turn + river as a bluff catcher.
what do u think the biggest difference is between the 200nl games and the 400 games?
also any advices for the play there/things to adjust, i just had my first failed shot there.
also whos the toughest player youve playd with at midstakes?
gl and sick progress thus far..
what do u think the biggest difference is between the 200nl games and the 400 games?
also any advices for the play there/things to adjust, i just had my first failed shot there.
also whos the toughest player youve playd with at midstakes?
gl and sick progress thus far..
Very generally speaking, 200NL is the last limit where u can be a nit /unbalanced in an obvious way (low/high vp/pfr, low/high 3bet percentage, low/high cbet flop % etc.) and still be a profitae player.
400NL regs are better at using and understanding statistical info that is shown by the HUD, and are very (VERY) aggressive while exploiting these leaks.
Good adjustings would prob be having less 4bet-bluffs (the guys there have no problem 3bet-shoving 55 for value vs your AK..), choosing wisely good spots to cbet in LP vs Blinds situations (again, when the regs r defending their blinds, they usually go for it over-aggro), shifting gearsfrequently between loose and tight styles, between sessions and when within session etc.
Main point would be prob to start with 6 tables maximum, taking the time with every desicion you make, think things through, marking interesting/though hands for later-review etc.
Thoughest players so far.. Not infront of my database currently, but a couple of names that jump to my head are Schmeff & King10Clubs (when he's not tilted ) at 400NL+600NL , lostToRiver and C1awViper at higher stakes, prob forgetting 2-3 guys, but def not more than that..
I'm working on my tournament game, especially Main-Event tourneys (have some goal of starting to participate at WPT, EPT etc.), been working lately on reviews and HH with some Israeli tournament specialists like all in 2526 , yargen , z 0 0 t s (for me he's already an Israeli ) , been feeling a real big improvement, played the Supernova + freeroll not long time ago, finished 541 which is nice for me...
Have a ****ty OPR mostly for playing some big tourney packages (ABI of 80$) while playing cash, so the results are afwul. This time gonna play only the tourneys, plus maximum 6 tables of cash to control my spewiness (prob actually gonna play 4 cash tables and 1 tourney table).
Anyways....
Selling some action to a small WCOOP package, with tourneys being played were hand-picked, if anyone is interested comment here / PM me..
Package starts at the 2/9, 15% left (I'm selling action also at the Israeli forum).
#1 - 215$ 6max
#2 - 215$ SM
#20 - 215$ 9max fixed limit (FL was were I started and had some really nice scores on PartyPoker)
#24 - 215$ 4max
#63 - 215$ SM
#65 - 5200$ ME
Total of 6275$, rounding it up to 6500$ (1.036 mark-up, seems fine to me).
Package is gonna be played anyway no matter if left percentage will be sold or not.
1% = 65$
2% = 130$
$$ should be transfered to stasia42 at PokerStars only.
GL to me
Last edited by stasia4242; 08-25-2012 at 08:43 AM.
Quick August summary + some insights about frequency of "challenge-thread-update".
Monthly Graph:
Was kinda harsh month real-life-wise (exams etc.) , which brought me to display mostly my B/C game, which led to almost B/E month (currently am B/E for the last 2 months, around 100k hands).
The last week of August included a 6 losing-session-streak , which led me to lose my "Zen", lose my nonchalant approach to $$ (esp the 1knl /2knl), and bitching around about bad beats, coolers etc.
Decided to go back to basics for 200nl, with the intention of making at least 2k before I go back to 600NL+ , and trying some new "tricks" and moves.
Insights:
When making good decisions and getting paid off by them, I have no problem updating the thread almost every day, sort of "look at my amazing thought process"-brag.
When making less than optimal decisions, and losing actuall $$ from these decisions, you start doubting yourself, and re-thinking about the decisions/thought-process, which should probablly be the most interesting/important part of all those "challenge threads", but as people get to these "holes" they (and me) suddenly stop updating.
Will try to update more frequently when being on the down-side from now on.
The QsJh hand u posted earlier looks a little weird to me otr. What exactly are you trying to achieve with your Riverbet?
The J4o hand is a c/f ott. If you bet turn you have to jam river anyways. Rest looks fine
gl
Me and villain had some aggro dynamics before at SB VS BB, thought villain can easily have there AXo etc. that would def fold to a river shove.
Favourite hand from the session, felt really like my old A-Game where I didn't just click buttons but instead would think about ranges and interesting moves.
Villain is a 60bb shortie-reg, which tripled up through a fish and closed his game (prob felt uncomfortable with 250bb stack). He had around 5% 3bet from SB at the time, I had put him on KK/AA/AK/QQ (maybe-maybe AQ) pre, and after him betting this flop figured I'm gonna represent 89/88/99/JT/QQ and that he can not call a flop raise + turn bet + river shove with his over-pairs.
Reg playes only deep tables, likes to call 3bet OOP and donk various board textures with various hands. Figured It will be hard to get my money in good with my hand, so went for a bluff-catcher (reg tends to barrel when shown passiveness on wet boards).
SB posts SB $2.00, Hero posts BB $4.00, UTG posts ante $0.80, MP posts ante $0.80, CO posts ante $0.80, BTN posts ante $0.80, SB posts ante $0.80, Hero posts ante $0.80
Pre Flop:($10.80)Hero has K K
fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $10.00, fold, Hero raises to $34.00, BTN calls $24.00
Again, didn't see much value from betting turn, so decided to go for bluff-catching, the ace on the river is a actually a "good card" for him to bluff, since people might be inclined to fold here 99+.
Was kinda harsh month real-life-wise (exams etc.) , which brought me to display mostly my B/C game, which led to almost B/E month (currently am B/E for the last 2 months, around 100k hands).
Insights:
When making good decisions and getting paid off by them, I have no problem updating the thread almost every day, sort of "look at my amazing thought process"-brag.
When making less than optimal decisions, and losing actuall $$ from these decisions, you start doubting yourself, and re-thinking about the decisions/thought-process, which should probablly be the most interesting/important part of all those "challenge threads", but as people get to these "holes" they (and me) suddenly stop updating.
Will try to update more frequently when being on the down-side from now on.
"Trying always to look good syndrome". Alot easier to post those winning hands/graphs. Would serve you better posting B & C game hands. Or suspected ones. Improving your B or C game will probably make you more money in the long run than improving your A game.
Reg playes only deep tables, likes to call 3bet OOP and donk various board textures with various hands. Figured It will be hard to get my money in good with my hand, so went for a bluff-catcher (reg tends to barrel when shown passiveness on wet boards).
Not sure of my line here..
Raising the flop vs some one who calls alot of 3bets and donks, sounds good to me. Just for value and you get alot more information from his timing when you raise vs when you call. And if you just call he is kinda just freerolling with his draws flop & turn. Shove when he hits and cf when he does not. None of the regs that I play with are brave enough to shove the river without a flush.
SB posts SB $2.00, Hero posts BB $4.00, UTG posts ante $0.80, MP posts ante $0.80, CO posts ante $0.80, BTN posts ante $0.80, SB posts ante $0.80, Hero posts ante $0.80
Pre Flop:($10.80)Hero has K K
fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $10.00, fold, Hero raises to $34.00, BTN calls $24.00
Again, didn't see much value from betting turn, so decided to go for bluff-catching, the ace on the river is a actually a "good card" for him to bluff, since people might be inclined to fold here 99+.
The KK hand I m not rly sure about the river call. U just look like you re bluffcatching so IMO he ll only shove for value and check back most hands that you beat. He would have to turn 99-QQ into bluffs a significant portion of the time for this to work out positively which seems doubtful. He sure has some floats but missed floats will actually hate that river cuz its just way too level one and nutflushdraws should be good enough to ship their top pair for value. Feels like a crying fold
He also has all sets, str8s and tons on A2s-A5s in his range that floated flop and stabbed turn with equity
The KK hand I m not rly sure about the river call. U just look like you re bluffcatching so IMO he ll only shove for value and check back most hands that you beat. He would have to turn 99-QQ into bluffs a significant portion of the time for this to work out positively which seems doubtful. He sure has some floats but missed floats will actually hate that river cuz its just way too level one and nutflushdraws should be good enough to ship their top pair for value. Feels like a crying fold
He also has all sets, str8s and tons on A2s-A5s in his range that floated flop and stabbed turn with equity
Ok, let's say river is not an ace... what do you do..? Seems to me like if u r going for check-fold on the river, you should better off bet turn for value and shove blank rivers / check-call scary ones.
yea well once you check call turn ur hand is kinda faceup and its hard to play with a hand thats face up. so i still think its a checkfold even on blanks as horrible as it sounds thus i think we re better off betting turn and river esp cuz turn brough a fd that you d be barrelling 100%
the JJ hand i guess there were no replies because you played it exceptionally well and there rly isnt anything to add. his range doenst hit that board nearly as hard as yours and you have blockers vs the nutz so tons of reasons to actually turn a semi strong hand into a bluff. wp
Hey guys, was thinking really hard on how to crush this 1000NL game, and figured that prob my problem was playing all the tables between 400NL-1000NL simultaniously (12-14 tables), and playing the "same" at all the tables. Seems to me that 1000NL is a lot harder and way different than 600NL- , so currently thinking that best approach would be to play only 1000NL, 6 tables max.
Furthermore, 2012 is coming to an end, and along comes the tax payment... Really want to start 2013 playing no less than 600NL, so currently don't feel comfortable enough risking my roll on playing solely 1000NL
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Kinda lost confidence after not giving enough volume in the last 2 months (around 30k hands total), so def need to earn that confidence back before trying to crush those beasts at 1000NL.
Anyways, from all mentioned reasons above, I'm starting a mini-challenge, that's supposed to get me back to 1000NL risking only future profits (from now on) and not my current roll. The plan starts from 100NL, and reaches 1000NL (hopefully ) after 44,000 hands (monthly average) and 7,000$ profit.
Starting now a 3.5 hours session at 100NL, GL to me :}
One of these Generic spots where I'm always not sure what to do and would gladly receive thoughts on this.
Villain is very loose pre, and very aggro post (lot's of barrelling in 3bet pots). On flop I'm quite sure I'm way ahead of his range, and on turn I'm practically nuts. I always find myself on the turn pondering whether I should shove and maximize my winning percentage in this hand, or should I call, and call any river which is not an A (most of these guy's range) to keep all of his bluffs in and maximize the dead-agg-money...????
You should not be calling 56s against this type of villain precisely because he's going to be able to barrel you off the majority of times you hit the flop. You're never going to be comfortable calling down 3 streets with just a 5/6 and most of his hands will always have overcard equity against you. Against barrely villains you should be calling with strong pair type hands JT/KT/QJ/etc and let him barrel off into you when you hold top pair the whole way.