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10-25-2013 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bostongrinder
Might see you there tonight... I'm going to see if I can figure out who ou are lol
LA Kings hat and black headphones. Stop by and say what's up! Games have been good all week
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10-25-2013 , 04:41 PM
So I have heard. Main reason I am heading down there. And will do dude... counting down the minutes at work till I can GTFO of here!
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10-25-2013 , 07:42 PM
I like this thread. As a fellow 2/5 grinder with a degree it's fun to read about someone in the same position.

Big issue I have in this thread is that there is too much talk, from OP and others, about what rooms have "softer" games. At LLSNL all games are soft. If I presented anyone making this claim with anonymized hand histories from say five east coast casino 2/5 games, no one could pick out the difference with any degree of accuracy. I'd bet my whole roll on that with odds.

At best, this is just nonsense for people to circlejerk around about. At worst, it can eat into people's bankrolls and livelihood travelling around because they heard about the "soft games" at Casino X.

OP, do you travel to so many different casinos to spread out room comp offers or because you get some enjoyment out of it (i.e. just like being in different places)? If you're doing it chasing supposedly soft games you are wasting time and gas.

Last edited by MaxRhino; 10-25-2013 at 07:48 PM.
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10-25-2013 , 09:00 PM
Definitely agree with rhino. For the most part 2/5 and lower games are gonna be similarly soft and aren't worth traveling a lot for. Better to mostly stick around home base while you are short on funds as opposed to adding unnecessary expenses.
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10-25-2013 , 10:12 PM
Fist bumped bostongrinder while felting someone. $1575 stack its Friday baby!
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10-26-2013 , 01:09 AM
Jealous! Keep it going bro.
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10-26-2013 , 02:35 AM
Confirmed.. Haha sweated the whole hand... Nice job dude
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10-26-2013 , 02:38 AM
Guy you felted is pretty tight too.. Nice when you have the nuts!!
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10-26-2013 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by MaxRhino
I like this thread. As a fellow 2/5 grinder with a degree it's fun to read about someone in the same position.

Big issue I have in this thread is that there is too much talk, from OP and others, about what rooms have "softer" games. At LLSNL all games are soft. If I presented anyone making this claim with anonymized hand histories from say five east coast casino 2/5 games, no one could pick out the difference with any degree of accuracy. I'd bet my whole roll on that with odds.

At best, this is just nonsense for people to circlejerk around about. At worst, it can eat into people's bankrolls and livelihood travelling around because they heard about the "soft games" at Casino X.

OP, do you travel to so many different casinos to spread out room comp offers or because you get some enjoyment out of it (i.e. just like being in different places)? If you're doing it chasing supposedly soft games you are wasting time and gas.
I love traveling and adventure. Would pay to travel in my free time if I wasn't a poker player. I understand your point, but I think you are being a little to harsh on people looking for the best games. No one really disputes table selecting anymore right? so logically casino selecting overarches that concept. The other big argument for casino selection is game volume. Having 10 2/5 games is just better than 1 2/5 game. This is especially important if you are playing as a professional and therefore playing during off days and off hours.
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10-26-2013 , 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by nit3.runn3r
Jealous! Keep it going bro.
Thanks man!

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Originally Posted by Bostongrinder
Guy you felted is pretty tight too.. Nice when you have the nuts!!
Got to get max value from the draws! I felted him again later when I opened AK and flopped an ace on an A84 rainbow board. I lead and he called. I checked the 3 turn and he quickly jammed for $210, slightly over pot. I called and he showed an 8. Explanation: "I was making a move"
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10-26-2013 , 11:48 AM
$1323 profit session last night. Slept in the car and was comfortable and warm in my 0 degree rated sleeping bag. Not changing my ways till $25k. BR currently $10.5k.

Going now to play a long Saturday session. Fully charged phone =lots of classical music. Playing Sunday- Tuesday as well, maybe playing Wednesday and heading home Wednesday night for some much needed binge drinking, girls, and old friends.
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10-26-2013 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ECGrinder
I love traveling and adventure. Would pay to travel in my free time if I wasn't a poker player. I understand your point, but I think you are being a little to harsh on people looking for the best games. No one really disputes table selecting anymore right? so logically casino selecting overarches that concept. The other big argument for casino selection is game volume. Having 10 2/5 games is just better than 1 2/5 game. This is especially important if you are playing as a professional and therefore playing during off days and off hours.
Yeah if you get life value out of travelling around then go for it.

Table selecting is definitely important (although I think people overrate it and stress it just a bit much) but I do not think it extends to casino selecting at these levels.

There are no themes or trends to the play between different casinos. Unless there is something dramatically different about the game structure (ex. uncapped buyins), all llsnl are mostly going to play the same. It's mostly confirmation bias or just dumb thinking when people say games are softer at Casino X than Casino Y.

Also, it could be dangerous for players to adjust their place based on some perceived reputation of the games at a given casino. "Well Casino X is known for ____ play, so I need to adjust my game to _____". It's far more important to pay attention to the individual table you're at rather than some flimsy reputation a casino is supposed to have.


Keep crushing OP. If you're ever at Borgata Hotel Casino & Spa hit me up and we can chat.
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10-26-2013 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ECGrinder
No one really disputes table selecting anymore right? so logically casino selecting overarches that concept. The other big argument for casino selection is game volume. Having 10 2/5 games is just better than 1 2/5 game. This is especially important if you are playing as a professional and therefore playing during off days and off hours.
Yeah you nailed it man. You say a lot of smart things for someone as young as you are.
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10-26-2013 , 01:00 PM
OP you going to ac in a few weeks for Borgata Poker Open? 10.5k keep it up
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10-26-2013 , 01:06 PM
Be careful sleeping in your car man.
As winter comes even that sleeping bag is reasonably dangerous for you.

GL
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10-26-2013 , 01:13 PM
shelling out $40 for a hotel is worth not getting hypothermia
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10-26-2013 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BradleyT
Yeah you nailed it man. You say a lot of smart things for someone as young as you are.
What did he nail? Are you going to support the argument that different casinos' low stakes games have overarching personalities that differ from casino to casino?

It really is some kind of weird fiction that is probably hurting a lot of players' bottom lines.
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10-26-2013 , 04:53 PM
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What did he nail? Are you going to support the argument that different casinos' low stakes games have overarching personalities that differ from casino to casino?

It really is some kind of weird fiction that is probably hurting a lot of players' bottom lines.
I think there a lot of people with a "the grass is greener on the other side" mentality. In reality there isn't a huge difference in player pools in different locations throughout the US. There are recreational players and serious player everywhere you go. Table selection is key. While traveling to play some place new is fun and breaks up the monotony there is not much reason to travel to a supposed promised land where you can double your winrate.
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10-26-2013 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ECGrinder
$1323 profit session last night. Slept in the car and was comfortable and warm in my 0 degree rated sleeping bag. Not changing my ways till $25k. BR currently $10.5k.

Going now to play a long Saturday session. Fully charged phone =lots of classical music. Playing Sunday- Tuesday as well, maybe playing Wednesday and heading home Wednesday night for some much needed binge drinking, girls, and old friends.
Way to grow that roll. Stay focused but more importantly DISCIPLINED.

If I were to catergorize Bankroll I would say

$1k - $4k is very high risk
$4k - $7k is high risk
$7k - $11k is medium risk
$11k - $18k is low risk
$18k+ is slight/no risk...

Get just a couple of more weeks of good play behind you, and you will be knocking on the door to the green.
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10-26-2013 , 05:38 PM
Feeling like garbage. Didn't plan on this interruption to the grind. The dangers of being self employed, gentlemen. Sitting at panera figuring out if I'm better off weathering this one out at home. I've gotten deathly ill from Foxwoods before. -$500 this morning, ran terrible and was finally defeated when a gutterball hero slayed my top pair. Good 3/4 pot flop call, bro.

Still north of 10k.
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10-26-2013 , 10:01 PM
MaxRhino
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There are no themes or trends to the play between different casinos. Unless there is something dramatically different about the game structure (ex. uncapped buyins), all llsnl are mostly going to play the same. It's mostly confirmation bias or just dumb thinking when people say games are softer at Casino X than Casino Y.
You have shown your erudition! I just finished reading Taleb's chapter dealing with the subject, in which he argues that confirmation bias is present in every observation that we make and our beliefs. He cited a case where Parkinson's disease patients were treated with a drug consisting of dopamine, which enhances propensity for confirmation bias. A minority but substantial amount of the patients developed gambling addictions, supposedly because they thought they could see patterns in numbers which were truly random.

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Keep crushing OP. If you're ever at Borgata Hotel Casino & Spa hit me up and we can chat.
thanks man. I might come down for the upcoming tournament series, my buddy wants to play so I may join him for the adventure and grind the side action. (casino selection ftw)

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Originally Posted by BradleyT
Yeah you nailed it man. You say a lot of smart things for someone as young as you are.
Thankyou sir!

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OP you going to ac in a few weeks for Borgata Poker Open? 10.5k keep it up
thanks man! I may be there. I'll post in this thread.

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Be careful sleeping in your car man.
As winter comes even that sleeping bag is reasonably dangerous for you.

GL
lol, how is it dangerous? I've gone backpacking in NH's white mountains in temperatures from 30 degrees down to the negatives. At most it's damn miserable leaving the sleeping bag in the morning.

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Way to grow that roll. Stay focused but more importantly DISCIPLINED.

If I were to catergorize Bankroll I would say

$1k - $4k is very high risk
$4k - $7k is high risk
$7k - $11k is medium risk
$11k - $18k is low risk
$18k+ is slight/no risk...

Get just a couple of more weeks of good play behind you, and you will be knocking on the door to the green.
Awesome, this is quite similar to how I have (naively) been looking at the bankroll that I want to have for 2/5. So close to being properly rolled and living a more balanced life....
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10-26-2013 , 10:05 PM
How is your 2/5nl hourly so far?
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10-26-2013 , 10:09 PM
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How is your 2/5nl hourly so far?
$41/hr over 133 hours
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10-26-2013 , 11:04 PM
Normally I stay at the Trop with great discounted rates however Revel threw me comped weekend rooms all throughout November.

I'll be going Nov 15/16/17 and Nov 22/23/24 for incredible cash games then Foxwoods Nov 25/26/27
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10-26-2013 , 11:16 PM
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MaxRhino



Awesome, this is quite similar to how I have (naively) been looking at the bankroll that I want to have for 2/5. So close to being properly rolled and living a more balanced life....
A while back there was a thread about how live players underestimate the bankroll requirements and they need 3x as much. I think these numbers should be increased by a factor of three.
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