Post some hands.

What are your stats? 24/20/10 is around optimal.

I will post some hands after today’s session. Right now I’m 33.44/19.91/9.83. It was a good deal higher I have trimmed things down for most of the week but less so over the last few sessions. From what I’ve seen most of the high volume regs on here are significantly tighter than even your numbers there which surprises me as it seems not ideal.


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Well I can tell you from stats alone that a 34 vpip is going to lose long-term in all micro environments. Its a factor of the rake plus you are entering pots against regs with a weaker dominated range. Having such a wide vpip/pfr ratio you are definitely playing too wide of a range and probably limping, overlimping, and overcalling and cold calling too much. Eliminating these leaks from your preflop strategy will help out a bit.

Agreed with everything other than my limp which is probably low to acceptable range. Most of that high VPIP I’m coming in for open or 3betting. I do overlimp a few spots in the rare multiple limped pots that may play better as a raise. Def working on this stuff.


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One clear spot is I’m going for a little too thin value on some rivers vs nitty regs who seem to be constantly underrepd. For example nit reg open LJ 6max for 2.5x (.65-.70) fold to me button I 3 to $2.10 w/A5hh (not for value just like having some lighter 3 in range) and he flats. Flop TA9 rainbow check check. Turn J he checks I bet 1/2 psb he calls. River 9 he checks I bet 1/2 psb and he calls shows up with AQ. This specific line has repeated multiple times with the nitty regs showing up very often with this specific (AQ) holding and similar to where I guess vs their stats I need to just check turn bet river or bet turn check river. It just doesn’t seem that bad but I’m value owning myself vs the regs bc they just aren’t calling two streets with even like QQ/KJ in these spots.


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Thats a bit unlucky bad variance there. You will win your fair share against Jx hands and lower pairs in that spot. I wouldn't sweat it. Might want to cbet small, X turn and bet river small on these kind of runouts where your hand is in the middling SDV range. LOL at the nit with AQ though.

For real but it’s been consistent with the volume regs on here so nitty. Makes me want to just barrel-barrel-jam and turn this part of range into bluff vs them especially since my wider stat range gives me nut advantage on river (he can’t have any AA, 9x, etc that I can ) but have more fundamentals I need to straighten out before I expand any creative liberty.


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Ran like death today and played not so good online was surprised I only lost about 6 buy ins nl25.

Will just post 3 of the larger losing hands pretty confident I’m just suppose to hemorrhage $ but open to critique. 3rd is bluff line I didn’t hate and was surprised to get snapped on.

Hand 1has the distinguished honor of being the biggest hand I’ve lost in 6max nl25:

Hero button w/$75 behind

V1 tight reg but I’ve been 3 betting him pretty relentlessly pre this session $105 behind

V2 highjack mid stats rec $27 behind has been opening a lot

V2 open to $.68, V1 calls, I squeeze button to $2.54 w/KQcc, blinds fold both V call.

Flop KhKd5c both check I bet $6.18 folds to V1 who check raise to $18 I flat. Turn Tc V1 leads $15...given pre action he doesn’t have AK given flop action not TT. He can show up w/5s here I guess but KQ also seems probable which I’m now freerolling the club draw vs. so I jam and he snaps off w/KT turned boat. Don’t see how I lose less here unfortunately maybe I flat turn and fold to an open jam river but I just don’t think so.

Hand 2:

Hero $29 is in the bb
V1 rec utg $27
V2 cutoff (covers)
V3 button $18
V4 sb (covers)

Utg V1 bet $.68 and 3 calls before gets to me in bb w/44 def feels like a flat is the only option here.

I flat and we go to flop of 554 2 hearts. I just open lead pot hoping to get someone w/2 heart overs to call or spazz +someone might just decide I’m combo draw of some kind. V1 Utg flats all others fold. Turn T I bet pot again he calls. River is an 8 and I just jam to get snapped by TT.

Hand 3: the bluff line

This hand is vs V1 that drilled the KT in hand 1 he has like $161.74 behind in highjack now but he’s a volume reg so I don’t expect him to change much on stack size

I have $24.02 in cutoff

V2 on button w/$25 super nit stats.

V1 open hj to .55$ I raise to $1.27 w/KJss button call V1 call.

Flop 6d9s6c checks through.

Turn Th V1 check I bet $4.16(pot) w/the gutter 2 overs gonna blast most rivers if flat...might reconsider if button calls bc hes so nit but he folds. V1 calls.

River 3h pot is $12.48 V1 check I jam $18.59 I feel like I have so few natural bluffs here given action I felt I should be heavily overpairs occasionally a boat...maybe tiny bit of air but I’m over betting pot 1.5x I have to be bluffing a ton for light calls. V1 makes call with pp88. Gdamit.


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*in retrospect I guess he does double block the str in hand 3 but still that has to be a fold?


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Hey OP!

I've been following your thread a bit. Based on your stats of 33.4/20/10, you are in fact likely flatting too much. You're 3betting and pfr numbers are reasonable but vpip is too high since you have been flatting too muchh. You should rarely limp/flat. Also, vpiping 33.4% is definitely on the high side (though it is possible to beat the games with that vpip).

The A5s hand was poorly played on your part and well played on your opponent’s part tbh. The turn bet gets next to no value (except from KJs/QJs/maybe 88) and the river bet gets zero. You value owned yourself. With the river bet, you not only get like no value, but you also leave yourself vulnerable to getting bluffed off your hand by QJs, JTs, and QQ and potentially 88. I would've prefered a X-X-B line.

Honestly hand 1 and hand 2 seem standard. Hand 3 is interesting.

Firstly, what is that 3b size? In terms of the rest of the play, I honestly don't mind it. I would caution you about doing these plays at this level. I think underbluffing in these spots at this level makes some sense. You have close to as much equity as you'll ever have in this scenario on the turn and block KTs/JTs. But, then it goes back to the 3b size preflop. That may have costed you. Your opponent may have been thinking, “This guy wouldn't 3-bet so low with overpairs. I block 87. Also, is he really value jamming this river with an overpair? I call.”

The line itself is fine but the 3b screws you since your opponent get to have more 6x and you look like your just spewing.

Was it a misclick?

Thx I guess I’m seeing that. Over next few online sessions I may just nix 80+% of limp range then maybe just 3bet the upper quarter of that in ok looking spots and see how that feels. Yeah I’m running into a few (it’s very rare at this stakes) regs who will punish me from oop looking for chk/raises on rivers w/nut blockers etc.


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This online pursuit has taken life and momentum of its own so I think I’m going to keep this thread just live cash and tourney goals/stats/hands/results and eventually (probably when I hit 10k hands in nl25 start a specific goals thread related to the online grind where that content will be updated. Based on current results and pace I should probably keep those ambitions on the low side but I do have a strong drive to improve in that arena.

Heading out tonight for 2-5nlh session at Jax best bet. I also want to get a post up soon about my current living situation here since I’ll be moving on to south fla the first week of September.


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I liked the overall line too but yeah it makes sense that the 3bet size pre could have fked things up. I usually 3.5-4x this spot I’m honestly not sure why I sized this way other than his small open sizing through me off and I figured I’m always raise folding here but get to flop in position/with initiative when he flats, I had considered myself effectively button bc the reg on buttons stats are just epically tight over a decent sample size. I need to work on consistency with sizing undoubtedly.


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I might have just button clicked the sizing there tbh


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Drinking poker session for the first time in years last night at 2-5nlh. Had few too many and dusted off most of profit in questionable spots. Left up +$690 when I think I was up over +$1400 at one point. Ended up just staying up here (Jax) overnight and will go play day session now before heading home.


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+$129 2-2nlh today 4hrs w/hangover then wrapped out first 10k hands at nl25. Def still losing there but seeing small incremental improvements. Some of the regs are abusing some of my weak spots in stats so having to start making some specific changes.

Posting some random fla stuff next week then will post live results/goals end of month been a decent month for relatively low volume. Back is still a bich but it’s marginally better by the week and I’ve started some rehab exercising.

Tonight I’ll post up a online poker goal thread if anyone wanna check it out it’s going to be very specific to online 6max play and stats/hhs in that sense it will likely be a fairly bland/dry thread but I’ll be posting 3hhs/session looking for feedback and throwing out some specific stat questions if anyone with experience is able to drop in. Will link it in here when it’s up.


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have moved all the online content/goal to here, check it out, it will updated much more consistently than live stuff on here just given the nature/volume thx

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1.../#post57231707

While this thread has taken a back seat to the 6 month online challenge, I’ll still put up update this afternoon on live results from July as well as scaled back live goals for August.

Big news for me is a housing situation opened up for me 5 min down the road from the Orange Park room I’ve been mostly grinding live at which should allow me to continue the North Fla campaign before probably eventually heading south in the future. This proximity would allow me to maintain decent live volume/$ while chasing the online challenge which I need to get ~10k hands/week on to keep pace I want.

I should know by tomorrow if this goes through and if so be moved by the 5th or 6th. Probably no live sessions until after that time, too many moving pieces. I am planning on firing a few sattys to some of the wpt Jax stop events this month.


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welp Orange Park didn't pan out so I'll probably be staying here another 2 months before deciding where I'm heading next.

I'll try to keep the live update brief, again I'm spending much more time on the online challenge for the moment. Good news is I think I won virtually every session I played for at least some small +, be it 2-2, 2-5, or plo, also ran very well in 2-5 including one $1500+ session. Bad news is I played very little I think under 65 hrs live again on the month. Here are the live standings since the start of this thread:

top number is total profit in the 2mo. bottom number is aggregate hourly of games:



here is a breakdown by game:


have only played 138 hours and 47 minutes of live poker over this 2 month duration whereas I had hope for closer to 250+, just been a lot of life stuff, the injury, and the online focus.

July goal status:

1) 100 hrs. Hopefully more but this is the bottom goal given last months low volume.

Nope: just over half this but a ton online for what that's worth (not worth $ haha)

2) 30% 2-5 sessions. Lowered this from last month since I missed so badly.

Yes! Finally was well over the % goal on month for 2-5 and it paid off well.

3) 40 hrs poker study/review/ranges/pio.

Yes! Ridiculously higher than this given the work I've been doing for online challenge, much of which should translate well to live games.

4) 3 plo sessions.

Nope. 1 plo session, fun swingy game. Seems ok given how low overall volume was.

5) continue to use and modify/adapt variable sizing range of opens and threebets in hj-button position.

Yes! Still using this method with some continual tweaks.

6) letÂ’s go for 10bb/hr again. Fell short last month but this fat kickoff session should make this one a lot easier.

Yes! Crushed this on month thx to the 2-5 rungood.

Non-poker goals are simple this month

1) continue to rehab back/spine

Yes! Been getting up early every morning to walk and do exercises in pool which have helped make big gains in getting better.

2) drop 5 pounds. Been trimming lately down bc I think itÂ’s best for my injuries and overall health at my age. Main focus now is cardio and flexibility. Might play around with strength again someday when IÂ’m happy with other fundamentals.

Nope. I really like food. I managed to not gain any weight.



I have yet to play live session for August and really don't have any specific goals in mind as my main priority right now is improving online 6max (see challenge thread). I'll probably post a few updates on here this month when I do get out to play live and/or sweat the sessions on twitter/ig. Will post end of month with updated live results. Fortunately I am still in a position that I don't 'need' live volume to pay bills and any $ I make playing goes directly into poker specific roll. I would guess will play less than 50-60 hours again this month live.

subbed.... followed the Vegas thread for years.... Looking forward to the future... PLO and NL at Best Bet Jax is super good..... Obv, S Fl is ideal too... lots of good options... Good luck....

Thx but between the online challenge Im doing in this subforum and the Covid rage in Fla slowing things down I’ve been on a live hiatus this month and next month is questionable so on a bit of a hiatus itt.

Played 4 crazy swingy days of plo in a row but lost $-375 total from those and a single 2-5 session for -$170ish has been the extent of my live play in Aug so I’m glad last month was decent.

They also ‘postponed’ the WPT events here at Jax also due to Covid so the handful of satellites I planned to play this month also got canned.

Most my focus is in becoming successful at high volume online right now but it’s quite challenging. Hopefully the Covid drama will clean up or exhaust itself and can get back to much more live sessions maybe later winter or spring.