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06-04-2020 , 01:08 PM
Hey 2+2

Me:
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I'm 19yo and started playing in late March, I've played about 50,000 hands, for the past 10k hands I've broken even on party so decided to take a shot at stars and become a winning player.


My long term goals (like all of us) are to get to high stakes and make a living from poker. I'm going to university in October 2019 so I'm aiming to get to 200nlz before then. I know I can do this

I'd like to move up to 10nlz by the end of the month. I'm going to play about 2000 hands a day for the first week and then over 10k hands a day from then on.

Long term goals:
Reach 100nlz
Finish MOP and Janda
Do solver work
Become best in wurld

Short term goals:
Move up to 5nl
Finish learning ABC poker


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06-04-2020 , 01:11 PM
Also, I'm going to upload my biggest losing hands (of the day) so I get embarrassed and stop tilting/ become better
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06-04-2020 , 01:19 PM
October 2019 is going to be a good time. I can't wait.
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06-04-2020 , 02:19 PM
10k hands a day is ridiculous. Even 4 tabling which you should stay away (was by far my biggest leak playing) from that's 10 hours a day. 2k hands a day 2 tabling zoom is 4 hours which seems reasonable.
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06-04-2020 , 02:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SelimSuuuup
October 2019 is going to be a good time. I can't wait.
Me neither, its gonna be a good year
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06-04-2020 , 02:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MMSS
10k hands a day is ridiculous. Even 4 tabling which you should stay away (was by far my biggest leak playing) from that's 10 hours a day. 2k hands a day 2 tabling zoom is 4 hours which seems reasonable.
I think. you may be right about 10k hands, but I'm planning on at least 2 tabling and playing 16 hours a day
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06-04-2020 , 03:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RossGod
I think. you may be right about 10k hands, but I'm planning on at least 2 tabling and playing 16 hours a day
No one can do anything for 16 hours a day regularly. That is quite literally mental. It's a really stupid goal.
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06-04-2020 , 03:27 PM
If you really think you´re one of the few chosen ones able to do this nonstop and not kill yourself, then do 8 hours play-8 hours study.

I play full ring, and one of my "heros" from the good old times was magorko, who played 24 tables (equivalent to 4 zoom in terms of H/hr) back in the day (2011) and went from 10nl to 50nl in the first year, and 50nl to shots at 1knl in the second one (before switching to zoom 6-max). Even he had to drop tables to a saner 6-10 (and I´m talking full ring) in order to be able to leave a 40 bis downswing at 25nl and successfully move up.

Volume should be the last thing on your priorities list. Anyway, GL, will follow this one

Edit: And he didn´t play 16 hours a day.
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06-04-2020 , 10:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RossGod
I think. you may be right about 10k hands, but I'm planning on at least 2 tabling and playing 16 hours a day
I think it is safe to say that doing 16 hours a day before October 2019 is impossible.
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06-05-2020 , 06:08 AM
Sooooooooo pretty bad start

Graph:
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played 4200 hands-on 2 tables, I was doing well in stretches but like an idiot tilted 10 dollars in 300 hands. I am a confirmed fish.

I've looked through the PT filters and can see I'm losing ALOT of money calling pairs on the flop then turn and river. I need to stop calling this because villains range is heavily skewed towards value hands better than mine, and even though i may be correct sometimes it is unprofitable and a -EV play.

This is filtered for pairs made on any street:
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The main reason i am losing money are these call downs. They are never profitable and only an IDIOT would do them. STOP DOING IT FFS!!!!

I should be playing the flop aggressively and folding with anything less than 2p

I am also losing money with AK. This hand is useless unpaired and i should not float with it!

I also lose money whenever i call the flop. These people are not bluffing in general and i should only call with strong hands but mostly raise!!

I think to win 2NL i need to do these things?:
Don’t call PF if you can’t raise, fold
Only continue with 2p+
Don’t double barrel TPTK
Don’t bluff
Raise flops
Don’t raise rivers with air
Srsly don’t bluff

I'm gonna try this today. I should be able to win by betting flops when checked to, betting dry flops and stealing blinds.

Also a question, do you think donk bets are profitable? I think they get called too much even on dry flops




Now for the 5 biggest losers:

1.
PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 155.5 BB
SB: 175 BB
Hero (BB): 312.5 BB
UTG: 76 BB
MP: 154 BB
CO: 93 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has As Ks
fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, BTN raises to 9 BB, fold, Hero calls 8 BB, fold

Flop : (20.5 BB, 2 players) Kc 3s Tc
Hero checks, BTN bets 13 BB, Hero calls 13 BB

Turn : (46.5 BB, 2 players) 6c
Hero checks, BTN bets 29.5 BB, Hero raises to 185.5 BB, BTN calls 104 BB and is all-in

River : (313.5 BB, 2 players) Js

Hero shows As Ks (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 61%, Flop 61%, Turn 0%)

BTN shows 7c 8c (Flush, King High)
(Pre 39%, Flop 39%, Turn 100%)

BTN wins 302.5 BB


This is ridiculous, should probably have squeezed pre. I think a raise or fold on the flop would be best and the turn is 100% a fold. stupid.


2.
PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 98.5 BB
SB: 632 BB
BB: 492.5 BB
Hero (UTG): 134.5 BB
MP: 116 BB
CO: 203.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8c 8h
Hero raises to 3.5 BB, fold, CO raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 4.5 BB

Flop : (17.5 BB, 2 players) Td 3c 2h
Hero checks, CO bets 8.5 BB, Hero raises to 17 BB, CO calls 8.5 BB

Turn : (51.5 BB, 2 players) Jh
Hero bets 25 BB, CO raises to 50 BB, Hero raises to 109.5 BB and is all-in, CO calls 59.5 BB

River : (270.5 BB, 2 players) 5h

Hero shows 8c 8h (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 18%, Flop 0.1%, Turn 0%)

CO shows Th Ts (Three of a Kind, Tens)
(Pre 82%, Flop 99.9%, Turn 100%)

CO wins 261 BB

Equally idiotic. Should have folded pre, fold flop, check fold turn

3.
PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 205 BB
BB: 358 BB
UTG: 182 BB
MP: 52.5 BB
Hero (CO): 111.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Qh Ah
fold, fold, Hero raises to 3.5 BB, fold, SB raises to 14 BB, fold, Hero calls 10.5 BB

Flop : (29 BB, 2 players) Th Ks 4c
SB bets 9 BB, Hero calls 9 BB

Turn : (47 BB, 2 players) 3c
SB checks, Hero bets 23 BB, SB calls 23 BB

River : (93 BB, 2 players) 8s
SB checks, Hero bets 65.5 BB and is all-in, SB calls 65.5 BB

Hero shows Qh Ah (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 47%, Flop 43%, Turn 23%)

SB shows 9s 9c (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 53%, Flop 57%, Turn 77%)

SB wins 216 BB


An argument could be made to folding pre I think, but in a 3bet pot i should defo have folded the flop.


4.
PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 138.5 BB
SB: 205 BB
Hero (BB): 211.5 BB
UTG: 100.5 BB
MP: 117.5 BB
CO: 67.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Kd As
fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, fold, SB calls 1.5 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, CO raises to 67.5 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 58.5 BB

Flop : (137 BB, 2 players) 6c Jd 9c

Turn : (137 BB, 2 players) Jc

River : (137 BB, 2 players) 5h

Hero shows Kd As (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 45%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)

CO shows 9h 9s (Full House, Nines full of Jacks)
(Pre 55%, Flop 98%, Turn 100%)

CO wins 132 BB

I should probably have folded pre, even though he is a bit shallow he will mostly have PP which I am behind

5.
PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 104.5 BB
Hero (SB): 114.5 BB
BB: 101.5 BB
UTG: 164 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 175.5 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Qh Jd
fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, BTN calls 7 BB

Flop : (21 BB, 2 players) Kh Tc 7s
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn : (21 BB, 2 players) 5s
Hero bets 15.5 BB, BTN calls 15.5 BB

River : (52 BB, 2 players) Th
Hero bets 37.5 BB, BTN calls 37.5 BB

Hero shows Qh Jd (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 25%, Flop 30%, Turn 14%)

BTN shows Qs Ks (Two Pair, Kings and Tens)
(Pre 75%, Flop 70%, Turn 86%)

BTN wins 122.5 BB

Not sure if this should be a squeeze or not but I'm thinking no, obvs turn and river are check folds.


Sorry for the long post, any feedback would be great (especially on what i think i need to do to win 2nl). I'm gonna read the mental game of poker today, i'm hoping it will help me alot

Should've called this "a fish tries to win" or something
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06-05-2020 , 06:23 AM
H1: raise pre because is hard to play oop, in many cases 3 way. Call flop, turn if you know that the villan is agro you can make a call, fold river if het bets again because you don’t have any blocker to a flush. Your raise on the turn is a total spew..

H2: ch/call flop, ch/fold turn.. again total spew on turn. Also use a small raise pre, 2.5x-3

H3: it’s ok call pre, ok call flop, turn check back.. river check back or fold. When you bet on turn, they will fold only cards that you will win on showdown... again spew

H4: standard cooler..

H5: bet flop 1/3, check turn or bet, depends on the villain... but on this stake i prefer check..

You make a lot of big mistakes probably, that’s why you loose on this limit. Even fishes are a little bit more tighter on zoom. So bet bet bet when you have it, stop bluffing, majority are call stations.
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06-05-2020 , 06:27 AM
1 - 4bet pre, call flop, call turn. Shoving on the turn is awful.

2 - Not sure why you are opening so big, doesn't really matter I suppose. Never folding to the 3bet pre, call flop, check/fold turn.

3 - Never folding pre, call the flop then just x/f as the runout is bad.

4 - This is fine, yes he has PPs which you are slightly behind but villains 100% turn up with weaker Ax and Kx + occasionally stupid things like 78s

5 - Bet the flop then give up unimproved.

I think there is little to no point reading mental game of poker, you'd be miles better off reading and studying grinders manual. That will be the biggest payoff. The tilt spew is something everyone does to some degree when they start playing poker when you understand it better a lot of that goes away.

Those arbitrary rules you have made up are really bad and you should definitely not follow them.
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06-05-2020 , 07:12 AM
hey thanks yeah ok i think thats a good idea, will actively study and make notes of it today
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06-05-2020 , 07:15 AM
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You make a lot of big mistakes probably, that’s why you loose on this limit. Even fishes are a little bit more tighter on zoom. So bet bet bet when you have it, stop bluffing, majority are call stations.
yeah I think on this limit all of the profits come from sets+ and AA/KK pre

Last edited by RossGod; 06-05-2020 at 07:44 AM.
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06-07-2020 , 06:32 AM
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So I've studied the first sections of TGM, it made my thought processes a bit more coherent in terms of sizing in different positions and opening ranges, I think it's good so far.

yesterday was pretty bad. I played well for the first few hands but as you can see by the EV graph luck wasn't on my side and the tilt got to me. most of the big losses on the graph was tilt as you'll see. There were a bunch of hands where i was value betting very well with TPTK and the guy made 2 pair on the river and called and stuff like that, but i guess thats poker.

I'm going to study TGM more before I put in more volume so hopefully i can post a winning graph soon...

Hands:

1

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (BTN): 147.5 BB
SB: 95 BB
BB: 81 BB
UTG: 97.5 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 110.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Qc Qs
fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10.5 BB, fold, fold, MP raises to 25 BB, Hero calls 14.5 BB

Flop : (51.5 BB, 2 players) Js Qh 6c
MP bets 16.5 BB, Hero raises to 122.5 BB and is all-in, MP calls 58.5 BB and is all-in

Turn : (201.5 BB, 2 players) 6h

River : (201.5 BB, 2 players) Ad

MP shows Ac Ah (Full House, Aces full of Sixes)
(Pre 82%, Flop 10%, Turn 5%)

Hero shows Qc Qs (Full House, Queens full of Sixes)
(Pre 18%, Flop 90%, Turn 95%)

MP wins 194.5 BB

This is the one that originally tilted me. I think I played perfectly. got it in with 90% and he pulls a runner runner higher full house wtf

2

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 178 BB
SB: 100.5 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 602 BB
MP: 97.5 BB
CO: 109 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Th Td
fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12.5 BB, MP raises to 35 BB, fold, Hero calls 22.5 BB

Flop : (73.5 BB, 2 players) 3c 2d 2c
Hero bets 65 BB and is all-in, MP calls 62.5 BB and is all-in

Turn : (198.5 BB, 2 players) As

River : (198.5 BB, 2 players) 6c

Hero shows Th Td (Two Pair, Tens and Twos)
(Pre 20%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)

MP shows Ks Kc (Two Pair, Kings and Twos)
(Pre 80%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)

MP wins 191.5 BB

This is from later in the day, pretty sure its tilt. What do you think of the squeeze? I think i should fold to the raise preflop and if he called I can value bet that flop as he probs isnt calling with jj

3

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 80 BB
Hero (SB): 141.5 BB
BB: 227.5 BB
UTG: 95.5 BB
MP: 187 BB
CO: 100 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Kc Ac
fold, MP raises to 2 BB, CO raises to 9 BB, BTN calls 9 BB, Hero raises to 39 BB, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 30 BB

Flop : (90 BB, 2 players) 2s 7d 2c
Hero checks, BTN bets 41 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 41 BB

Turn : (172 BB, 2 players) 9h

River : (172 BB, 2 players) 3c

Hero shows Kc Ac (One Pair, Twos)
(Pre 70%, Flop 4%, Turn 0%)

BTN shows 2h Jd (Three of a Kind, Twos)
(Pre 30%, Flop 96%, Turn 100%)

BTN wins 166 BB

My logic was because of the cold call 3bet and 4bet squeeze He's not repping AA/KK so I put him on something like a pocket pair, 88-TT or something, and i have around 25% equity against those hands so thats why i called, but then he showed the set, now that i think about it probabbly was a bad call. The only good part is im winning against him in the long run cold calling J2o 4bet PF

4

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 120.5 BB
SB: 99 BB
Hero (BB): 152 BB
UTG: 153 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 76 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8d Ad
fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB, fold, fold, Hero checks

Flop : (2.5 BB, 2 players) 7s 9d 7d
Hero bets 2 BB, CO calls 2 BB

Turn : (6.5 BB, 2 players) 7c
Hero bets 3.5 BB, CO calls 3.5 BB

River : (13.5 BB, 2 players) As
Hero bets 13 BB, CO raises to 69.5 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 56.5 BB

CO shows 6h 7h (Four of a Kind, Sevens)
(Pre 39%, Flop 73%, Turn 100%)

Hero shows 8d Ad (Full House, Sevens full of Aces)
(Pre 61%, Flop 27%, Turn 0%)

CO wins 147 BB


Just bad river play but i think the turn was good?. the river Cbet may even be good as i lot of players qould raise a 7 and call with a 6.

5

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 98 BB
SB: 97 BB
Hero (BB): 260.5 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 121.5 BB
CO: 60 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ah As
fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 6.5 BB, CO calls 4.5 BB

Flop : (13.5 BB, 2 players) 3s 2c Kh
Hero bets 10 BB, CO raises to 20 BB, Hero raises to 73 BB, CO calls 33.5 BB and is all-in

Turn : (120.5 BB, 2 players) 5c

River : (120.5 BB, 2 players) 7c

Hero shows Ah As (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 83%, Flop 11%, Turn 14%)

CO shows 2h 2s (Three of a Kind, Twos)
(Pre 17%, Flop 89%, Turn 86%)

CO wins 116.5 BB

should probably either call or fold to raise. on the flop as he only has 2p+. in his range at this point.

Overall I need to do ALOT more studying before I can win these games, I think without tilt I am within plus/minus 5bb/100 so pretty breakeven. I'm going to study TGM and maybe a few more books and youtube videos then I'll return to this thread.
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06-07-2020 , 06:47 AM
Without looking too much at all those hands.

You're 3-bet sizing is too small OOP.

You're c-bet size is too large and you shouldn't be re-raising the min-raise.

Also pretty consistently in all your hands, your bet sizing is bad.
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06-07-2020 , 06:54 AM
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My long term goals (like all of us) are to get to high stakes and make a living from poker. I'm going to university in October 2019 so I'm aiming to get to 200nlz before then. I know I can do this
The road to hell is paved with good intentions

Hell is full of good meanings and wishes

Paradise is surrounded by hardships, and the Fire is surrounded by desires
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06-07-2020 , 11:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SelimSuuuup
Without looking too much at all those hands.

You're 3-bet sizing is too small OOP.

You're c-bet size is too large and you shouldn't be re-raising the min-raise.

Also pretty consistently in all your hands, your bet sizing is bad.

I just started today of going around 4x OOP and 3x IP, before i was just pressing the pot button. Is this an ok size in general?

I'm going for around 75% on most flops, is this not good? I think at this stake it may be ok when they're quite stationy
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06-08-2020 , 06:41 AM
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I feel I'm getting a lot better at this game. TGM has really helped so thanks MMSS for suggesting

There are 13 chapters of TGM and I'm on chapter 3 - cbetting. My current goal. is to intensely study a chapter a day before playing then try to apply what I have learned. I'm going to just post the number 1 losing hand each day now so the post is shorter.

It could just be variance but I only had 3 tilt pots today (can you spot them lol) I think i need to take a break every hour, even for a couple of minutes to re-centre myself as I start to become looser preflop the longer I play.

1

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (BTN): 303 BB
SB: 208.5 BB
BB: 137.5 BB
UTG: 126.5 BB
MP: 212 BB
CO: 212.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7d Ks
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop : (5.5 BB, 2 players) 7c Qh As
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn : (5.5 BB, 2 players) Js
BB bets 3.5 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, BB calls 6.5 BB

River : (25.5 BB, 2 players) Ad
BB checks, Hero bets 18.5 BB, BB raises to 55.5 BB, Hero raises to 191 BB, BB calls 69.5 BB and is all-in

Hero shows 7d Ks (Two Pair, Aces and Sevens)
(Pre 28%, Flop 21%, Turn 9%)

BB shows Jc Jd (Full House, Jacks full of Aces)
(Pre 72%, Flop 79%, Turn 91%)

BB wins 266 BB

I felt he didn't have an Ace, could probably bluff the flop but then just spewed as usual :/

2

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 202.5 BB
SB: 100 BB
Hero (BB): 134.5 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 104 BB
CO: 54 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9c 8c
fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BB

Flop : (5.5 BB, 2 players) Tc Ts 5c
Hero bets 4 BB, BTN raises to 11.5 BB, Hero calls 7.5 BB

Turn : (28.5 BB, 2 players) 3c
Hero checks, BTN bets 15 BB, Hero raises to 120.5 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 105.5 BB

River : (269.5 BB, 2 players) 7c

Hero shows 9c 8c (Flush, Ten High)
(Pre 44%, Flop 23%, Turn 0%)

BTN shows Ac 4c (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 56%, Flop 77%, Turn 100%)

BTN wins 260 BB

When he raised the flop i felt he had a ten as players usually dont play flush draws agro on this stake. Is this something we can never get away from? also he slowrolled which i did not appreciate

Thanks for all the feedback guys i know u probs cringe watching me try to play but its really helping me
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06-08-2020 , 07:16 AM
At 2nl you have no reason to get tricky, I'd say this hand is pretty perfect up until the turn where you should just fold. River is beyond awful, you don't need to win every hand.

Hand 2 - Why donk the flop? I personally just x/c here, turn I think you are playing too aggressively it's a paired board and you have an awful flush and villain has shown a lot of strength has every AcXc, KcXc loads of the Q J T high flushes, full houses. By shoving you are giving them a chance to fold Tx (which they never do tbf), but any overpairs. You have already narrowed their range massively when you donk and they raise.
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06-09-2020 , 08:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MMSS
At 2nl you have no reason to get tricky, I'd say this hand is pretty perfect up until the turn where you should just fold. River is beyond awful, you don't need to win every hand.

Hand 2 - Why donk the flop? I personally just x/c here, turn I think you are playing too aggressively it's a paired board and you have an awful flush and villain has shown a lot of strength has every AcXc, KcXc loads of the Q J T high flushes, full houses. By shoving you are giving them a chance to fold Tx (which they never do tbf), but any overpairs. You have already narrowed their range massively when you donk and they raise.
Ah ok that makes sense, i've just stopped donking yesterday whyyy am i such a fish
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06-09-2020 , 09:46 PM
So I'll just post the graphs
Yesterday:
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Today:
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Yesterday was pretty awful, dont really remember what happened. I lost alot from coolers and bad luck (AA not flopping well, running sets into flushes, running straights into flushes) so the runouts on my good hands were pretty bad leading to tilt.

Today though was better, i started the day with 4 reg tables and 1 zoom and won $5 in 200 hands (i think reg tables are ALOT softer? people just giving stacks etc.) then i had my second session on only the new 2nl zoom ante tables which i won and lost alot. I feel the ante games are really easy as people are scared of the big pot sizes and are folding too much to 3bets.

The Grinders manual is by far the best resource on poker ive consumed. I finished notes on chapter 5 - value betting today, and learned alot. There was a really great section on deciding whether to bet/fold, check/call or check/fold by judging whether villains betting or calling range is stronger. I've never considered things like that in game before, I know i should be thinking about ranges but i play quite intuitively atm.

But i finished my first day with a profit, and I am pretty happy about that.

Also I'm coming up to the 1st week of my PGC thread and I've managed to play pretty much 2000 hands everyday and do a-lot of studying. I'm pretty sure i wont be increasing my volume until I'm confident with everything thats in TGM. I think after that I'll read let there be range quickly and the mental game? Then I'll use a few more online resources I've got saved quickly and then on to learning more about game theory. Probably going to start with mathematics of poker, then the Janda's, then I'll save for my first solver.

Anyway, thanks for reading and I'll update tomorrow! next week i'm going to update more sporadically so the isnt full.

I'm going to beat this stake.

Biggest Losing hand: standard cooler! yay not a tilt hand haha

PokerStars - $0.02 Ante $0.01 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 38 BB
SB: 139 BB
BB: 112 BB
UTG: 208.5 BB
Hero (MP): 124 BB
CO: 119 BB

6 players post ante of 0.5 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 4.5 BB) Hero has Ac Kd
fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, SB raises to 10 BB, fold, Hero raises to 34 BB, SB raises to 138.5 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 89.5 BB and is all-in

Flop : (251 BB, 2 players) 4h 3d 8d

Turn : (251 BB, 2 players) Kh

River : (251 BB, 2 players) 6s

SB shows 8s 8h (Three of a Kind, Eights)
(Pre 56%, Flop 95%, Turn 100%)

Hero shows Ac Kd (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 44%, Flop 5%, Turn 0%)

SB wins 242 BB

Quite annoying as i was at the bottom of my range vs his hand but what can ya do
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