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02-22-2017 , 07:47 PM
Hey, Whats up everyone! I thought I'd start a thread to show as I rebuild my bankroll and try to learn from my mistakes the first time around.

Let me start by telling you a little about my career so far.

I started playing professionally back in 2011 and grinded 1/3 NL and small tournies for a few years until I decided to move to Las Vegas. In 2013 I had some friends who had dealt for WSOP and said I could make between 8-10 k if I dealt for the summer so I thought I'd give it a try. I dealt for one day! I played the employees event made the final table and in 2 days made would I would have made if I had dealt all summer so I quit. I played some smaller tournaments that summer and bricked everything ending the summer a very small winner.

Fast forward 2 years and after grinding low limit NLH and mixed games I decide to play 4 events at WSOP and boom I final tabled the $1500 HORSE for 5th and 50k. Everything after that has been kind of a blur. I played a bunch of 1k's, started traveling a lot, played on live at the bike and I just wasn't winning. Before I knew it (especially after I payed taxes the following year) my bankroll had evaporated.

The next year in order to maximize my opportunities I decided to play a full schedule of a lot of the smaller events that summer and put in a lot more volume as I ended up playing 30+ tournaments that year. I had to sell 70% of my action to do this (I had never sold action before) and somehow I was able to sell enough to friends that I could play. That summer I ended up with 6 cashes and 4 final tables and a 12th place finish in $1500 2-7 TD at WSOP!

So here we are today and after some traveling and completely bricking out WCOOP I'm finding myself in a very familiar position. We are almost 3 months away from summer and I'm in serious grind mode trying to put myself in a situation to play a full schedule at WSOP.

So with all that said I felt like it would be a good idea to start a thread as I try to reach my goal for the summer. I'll be playing mostly 2/5 NLH and tournaments to get there. Wish me luck!
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02-22-2017 , 09:20 PM
I was +$2200 playing 2/5 last week which basically paid for my WSOP Circuit this week.

So far I'm 0/4 at the Circuit with 3 more more tournaments left.

$365 Horse tomorrow then Monster Stack and Main Event left.

Hoping to build some momentum with Wynn Classic coming up right after the Circuit.
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02-24-2017 , 01:23 AM
Make that 0/5. Monster Stack Tomorrow! Hoping I can end this run bad streak in tournaments.
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02-25-2017 , 03:14 PM
Another bad day yesterday. I was cruising with 50k at 300/600 in the monster stack then lost two pair vs a river flush then got the rest of my 25k or so in on J55 board with QQ against AJ and he found the J on river. Day off today before WSOP Circuit Main tomorrow. 0/6 feelsbadman
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02-27-2017 , 02:10 PM
Well my last tourney at WSOP Circuit was not a good one. Played the $1675 Circuit Main and just couldnt find any run good. Every time I started to gain traction I lost a huge pot. 55 Lost to J9o on KJ5, Aq lost to 108o on A846T runout and AcKd lost to 88 on 239ccc board after 88 min raises on turn (flop check check). Theyfinally got me shortly before dinner break when I raised CO with AJo and button ships 20bb and I call all in with 18bb and cant beat KQo.

Very frustrating series for me as I feel I played very good throughout this series. I thought I played mistake free in the Main. Oh well.

Taking today off to play some golf @Chimara then I'll be back to the 2/5 games for a while.
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02-28-2017 , 11:14 PM
Ok, so back for a little 2/5 NLH action today and everything was going well up to $1300 from 1k start. Then I played this hand:

CO opens to 20 ($2k) folds to me in sb I 3 bet to $65 with QQ. He calls.

Flop Jd 7h 2c

I bet $115 he calls. Pot= $365

Turn 6d

I check He bets $200 I call.

River J!

I check he bets $200 I sigh and call and he shows QJo.

Later I get it in for the rest with TT on T84ss against KK and lose to running spades.

I guess I'm gonna take a day or 2 and try to let the dust settle and try to finish the week off on a good note.
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03-02-2017 , 06:17 PM
Going up today to play wynn main satellite and some cash after. LFG
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03-02-2017 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by valuebet4

CO opens to 20 ($2k) folds to me in sb I 3 bet to $65 with QQ. He calls.

Flop Jd 7h 2c

I bet $115 he calls. Pot= $365

Turn 6d

I check He bets $200 I call.
Thoughts behind checking turn?
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03-02-2017 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Snrub
Thoughts behind checking turn?
The main reason I decided to take this line was I think he's going to be betting his entire range based on information that I have with him and based on similarly played hands by him. Plus by doing this I protect my entire range in this spot as I'm playing ak and other air this way also.
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03-03-2017 , 12:11 AM
I love the check ott, we can c/c for pot control & if we bet and face a heft raise we are likely to fold our hand or play for stacks which I think is clearly not optimal here.

V will likely raise all two pair hands/flush draw hands/combo's FDSD/AJ,KJ,QJ etc. which we would be guessing and I will assume there aren't too many river cards that villain will not bet as a bluff or for value which we literally would have no clue which one it would be as we are letting him play optimally.

If he bets and we call turn, we can c / decide on river depending on bet sizing/river card.
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03-03-2017 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Mattyk1992
I love the check ott, we can c/c for pot control & if we bet and face a heft raise we are likely to fold our hand or play for stacks which I think is clearly not optimal here.

V will likely raise all two pair hands/flush draw hands/combo's FDSD/AJ,KJ,QJ etc. which we would be guessing and I will assume there aren't too many river cards that villain will not bet as a bluff or for value which we literally would have no clue which one it would be as we are letting him play optimally.

If he bets and we call turn, we can c / decide on river depending on bet sizing/river card.
By C/C turn I think we allow him to play even more optimally as we allow him to check back a lot of Jx hands.
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03-03-2017 , 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by valuebet4
By C/C turn I think we allow him to play even more optimally as we allow him to check back a lot of Jx hands.
I don't know how many Jx hands he has in his range when we 3! pre maybe AJ,KJs,QJs & J10s.

Again this is very player dependant on how light they call a 3! pre.

I didn't see the result of the hand until now, I still think its right play to c/c as he bet QJ for value as you said it looks like you have AK/1010. He knows he is unlikely to get c/r by you so he can comfortably bet QJ ott with the intention of checking river or betting river if he wants to go for more value.
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03-03-2017 , 04:03 PM
Played the Satellite for the Wynn Main last night and won a seat so I'll be playing day 1c on Saturday.
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03-03-2017 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mattyk1992
I love the check ott, we can c/c for pot control & if we bet and face a heft raise we are likely to fold our hand or play for stacks which I think is clearly not optimal here.

V will likely raise all two pair hands/flush draw hands/combo's FDSD/AJ,KJ,QJ etc. which we would be guessing and I will assume there aren't too many river cards that villain will not bet as a bluff or for value which we literally would have no clue which one it would be as we are letting him play optimally.

If he bets and we call turn, we can c / decide on river depending on bet sizing/river card.
lol V has exactly 0 2 pair combos and sets are pretty hard to make.

This hand takes place at 2/5, think people are way to worried about protecting range when they just need to be worried about making the max off of our good hands.
Think results aside we need to punish his Jx and put him in bad spots with 88-TT and bet turn again and decide on some rivers / bet all the low ones. If he choses to bet turn we aren't folding, letting him check and save money when he is beat is a fairly big disaster
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03-05-2017 , 03:00 PM
Played the Wynn Main yesterday and bagged exactly 10bb. Lost a pretty big pot with A2hh late in the day where action goes like this:

utg+2 opens to 2k @ 400/800 (80k stack)
Middle position calls
I call on button with Ah2h (50k stack)

Flop A9h6h

Utg+2 cont bet 4k middle position folds I raise to 10k he calls.

Turn Ks

He checks. I bet 18k he calls.

River 7s

He checks. I check and he shows Kh7h.

Obv heart comes I have 100k and have to dodge K or 7 on river to have 80k but instead I have 25k and ended up bagging 12k. Hopefully I can run up a stack but man I have not ran good in tournaments recently. 220k up top so hopefully I can make something happen. Wish me luck!
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03-05-2017 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by valuebet4
Played the Wynn Main yesterday and bagged exactly 10bb. Lost a pretty big pot with A2hh late in the day where action goes like this:

utg+2 opens to 2k @ 400/800 (80k stack)
Middle position calls
I call on button with Ah2h (50k stack)

Flop A9h6h

Utg+2 cont bet 4k middle position folds I raise to 10k he calls.

Turn Ks

He checks. I bet 18k he calls.

River 7s

He checks. I check and he shows Kh7h.

Obv heart comes I have 100k and have to dodge K or 7 on river to have 80k but instead I have 25k and ended up bagging 12k. Hopefully I can run up a stack but man I have not ran good in tournaments recently. 220k up top so hopefully I can make something happen. Wish me luck!
unlucky

what are your thoughts for raising The A2 on the flop?
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03-05-2017 , 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by AnimaLettire
unlucky

what are your thoughts for raising The A2 on the flop?
Normally I would just call in this spot but Villain was playing every pot to the river and was a station so I decided to take a different line where I could try to get max value.
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03-05-2017 , 11:48 PM
I did not Make day 3 in the Wynn Main. I went out fairly quickly when I shoved in the HJ with A6dd and ran into AK. Next tourney for me is the 250k gtd at Wynn on Thursday. If any of you want a little sweat I posted a small package up on stakekings. Below is the link:

https://www.stakekings.com/marketplace/package/5718#/
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03-07-2017 , 04:28 PM
good luck man. Sounds like basically not rolled to play those big buy ins and travel, thats why you say "it was a blur" cus you dont feel like u did anything wrong or too crazy, but its gone and not sure why. People underestimate the variance of tournaments, and all the expenses that go into live and the high rake. I Feel like you need an 80k roll just to fire the venetian 600. Maybe im a nit.

Where you playing live cash at?
Also how accurate is that 8-11k the dealers make per summer? What kinda hours is that? I know they work tons and hate life, but that EV is a lot better than most players!

Good luck. Ill keep checkin on your progress
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03-07-2017 , 06:06 PM
What is your current BR and what is your goal? Isn`t it more efficient to grind online and get 20 times the volume vs Live grind with travel expenses and everything?
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03-08-2017 , 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by chipmystak22
good luck man. Sounds like basically not rolled to play those big buy ins and travel, thats why you say "it was a blur" cus you dont feel like u did anything wrong or too crazy, but its gone and not sure why. People underestimate the variance of tournaments, and all the expenses that go into live and the high rake. I Feel like you need an 80k roll just to fire the venetian 600. Maybe im a nit.

Where you playing live cash at?
Also how accurate is that 8-11k the dealers make per summer? What kinda hours is that? I know they work tons and hate life, but that EV is a lot better than most players!

Good luck. Ill keep checkin on your progress
I've been playing mostly cash at Wynn recently. Its very rare that dealers make that anymore during wsop. Last year they were so overstaffed they were sending home dealers like crazy and it was hard for dealers to get a lot of hours. Thanks, hopefully I can post some results soon!
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03-08-2017 , 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Progresss
What is your current BR and what is your goal? Isn`t it more efficient to grind online and get 20 times the volume vs Live grind with travel expenses and everything?
My current BR is about 6k and my goal is to get around 20k before wsop. That would set me up nicely going into the summer grind. Before you we get into the discussion of what I'm bankrolled for I know I'm not bankrolled for 2/5. I'm not concerned with going broke at this point because worse case scenario I just build back up.

It would be more efficient to grind online if I didnt have to play online poker in the US. Me and my wife are thinking about moving outside the US but thats still a year or two away unfortunately. I have very little travel expenses as I'm playing mostly here in Vegas right now.
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03-08-2017 , 02:00 AM
So I haven't played poker the last 2 days as I took a few days to get some tax stuff together. I have a dr. appointment tomorrow and then the 250k gtd starts on Thursday. I'll keep you guys updated on how things go.
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03-08-2017 , 05:33 AM
Is there not enough action with bovada, acr, wsop (potentially other sites) to grind online? Even if you can one table 2/5 online on wsop online you play 5 times more hands than live right? Also rake is lower?

I am not one to judge BRM I have done the same as you multiple times.
I am just wondering how it feels for you mentally for you to continuously to try grinding it up and then playing MTT`s out of your roll and then have to build up again.
For me it has been very frustrating and stressfull going from 80k and 50k binks to then almost losing most of it, moving down and rebuilding.

What is your end goal? Hoping to have a great run at mtt`s ending up being rolled for everything you want to play without worrying about going broke again?
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03-10-2017 , 11:45 PM
Played day1a and day1b of Wynn Classic 250k and both days went terribly. Today after getting up to 35k fairly quickly I lost 22 to A3o on A25cc board. Soon after I defend bb with Q9o and lose to J9 on 966. Finally got the rest of chips in on A79 with 79 and ran into A9. Tomorrow is the last chance to make a deep run. It will be the last tourney I play for a while regardless. This has to be one of the worst downswings I've ever been on.
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