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02-10-2017 , 11:41 AM
6000 runners in last weeks Sunday million



How many:



Virgins: 478

Murderers: 1

People who think they are genuinely the best player in the tournament: 15

People who think they are genuinely in top 100 in field: 386

Haven't showered that day: 243
Are on drugs: 962
Don't know that a flush beats a straight: 86
Play on their parents' account: 185
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02-10-2017 , 12:08 PM
6000 runners in last weeks Sunday million



How many:



Virgins: 540
Murderers: 2
People who think they are genuinely the best player in the tournament: 12
People who think they are genuinely in top 100 in field: 940
Haven't showered that day: 450
Are on drugs: 650 (hangovers/light drinking + extra 300)
Don't know that a flush beats a straight: 56
Play on their parents' account: 90
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02-10-2017 , 12:10 PM
In regard to the xk/month question, I think it's way more important to figure out a plan for the future before you are even able to answer that question with a number. For example if I am running my own burger/belgian beers place in South America in 10 years I'd happily take 1.5k/month but if I end up working somewhere where it's a drag every day I would want at least 5k/month and still probably end up way less happy than in the first scenario
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02-10-2017 , 12:18 PM
havent showered that day is likely to be high 4000's because of timezones and bunch of people/cultures never showers in the morning but before bedtime.
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02-10-2017 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jAkDAriPAaa
6000 runners in last weeks Sunday million



How many:



Virgins: 540
Murderers: 2
People who think they are genuinely the best player in the tournament: 12
People who think they are genuinely in top 100 in field: 940
Haven't showered that day: 450
Are on drugs: 650 (hangovers/light drinking + extra 300)
Don't know that a flush beats a straight: 56
Play on their parents' account: 90
Only 2 murderers bro?!
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02-10-2017 , 12:32 PM
When you think of murderers you think of active ones and cold blooded ones. There are bound to be some ex-police/military guys that have killed in the line of duty(Edit: I guess these would be lawful in most cases and don't count), people that have just served their time, people that have been cleared etc.
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02-10-2017 , 12:38 PM
stats say 1 in 22,250 murder... lets say they miss a lot and its actually 1 in 15000.

5x more likely to be a murderer when a poker player seems a real stretch, i think there is only really an increase in over 30's, and not much difference in the 20 year old players.

Would be outrageous the 50 murderer shout... thats 1 in every 120 people!! Maybe the players that have played more dodgy live venues know more about how dodgy some poker players are ^^
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02-10-2017 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
"You can go back to 48 hours before September 11 attacks. You live in Europe and you're 8 years old but you have all the knowledge you have now. How do you best try to stop the attack, gto wise"
I would tell my parents some things I should not now at that time and there is no way I could have known about them / their business / the family but learnt since. As many as necessary to convince at least one of them.

I can also "predict" them the score of our favorite soccer team match which took place about 40 hours before 9/11. It was a very suprising result, I know scorers name and approximate time of the goals as well.

Once they're convinced, I use them to call the CIA.

We tell the operator we know about a terrorist attack on U.S soil in the next hours and that we have many details about it and that they should be able to stop it if he/she takes us seriously in the next seconds.

We ask the operator to transfer the call to the unit dedicated to Bin Laden, telling him/her we know it's also named "Alec Station" after the son of his director or "Mansion Family".

It should take him/her a couple of seconds/minutes to verify the information and given how specific/private this is and how paranoid the guys in that unit were, I'm pretty sure they would take the call.

Then telling them all the details I know about the attack which should be enough more than 24 hours before the planes took off to prevent the attack. More than enough time for Jack Bauer to do it by himself.
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02-10-2017 , 12:47 PM
Yeah, I thought of it as 'Have killed someone' rather than 'Murder'. It's going to be <5 probably.
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02-10-2017 , 12:49 PM
Virgins: ~350

Murderers: 0 (assuming a definition of murderer that isn't 'has killed someone in their life' f.e. ex cops/army and such don't count

People who think they are genuinely the best player in the tournament: 7 including pads

People who think they are genuinely in top 100 in field: 300

Haven't showered that day: 1869
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02-10-2017 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
We have very good connections of who is ghosting in the poker world and I have a document with 600+ players on with very detailed notes sometimes including who they are staked/housemates with etc. if a horse is deep with somebody that I know is ghosted I'll always fb them (our guys generally aren't on skype etc when they play) to say that X is probably ghosted by Y.
Please release this info. What 600. What stable. Selfish not to thanks
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02-10-2017 , 01:04 PM
681
0 (Base of rate is very low and prob negative correlation with being able to play 215 dlr tourney)
7 (Most good pros should be self-aware enough to know they cant know for sure if they are the best)
1200
2470 (Shower in the evening, Altho on sundays morning rate will be a bit higher prob)

Would retire on 6-7K a month, because I think I should be able to find a way to make me happier + as a hedge against disease/wars/drastici redistribution of wealth/overpop/robots taking over and enslaving us all. Other then that money is overrated and for me personnaly i was happier having HAving 0 with a structure and plan then XXXK with no clear goals and too much freedom. Most of high happiness EV things cost 0 money( arguably some can be easier reached when u invest money in the good things), but having set money can act as disincentive to improve. And lot of short therm +ev, long term -ev things can be obtained more easily when u have all the money whereas short term lower ev, long term high ev u dont need much money for antway.
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02-10-2017 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RonaldoVamos
Please release this info. What 600. What stable. Selfish not to thanks
He said he has a document with info on 600+ players, not that 600+ are ghosted. Also probably just refrain from asking questions you know won't get answered to avoid cluttering up the thread. While many would like to eliminate ghosting from mtt's it's just not gonna happen whether pads posts info here or not
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02-10-2017 , 01:15 PM
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Please release this info. What 600. What stable. Selfish not to thanks
I mean I have a document of info I'll compiled over the years of being studious. Going to live tournaments, hearing gossip, seeing guys staying together at epts. Seeing Uruguayan horses suddenly starting to play like their master. Most of it is just strategic timing/sizing or whatever else that I've seen whilst spending time to watch final tables on replayer etc. Every time I see an unknown in a €10k I'll try and find out who he is, background, screen name, social circle etc. maybe a little bit creepy but I think helps give a pretty big edge in live tournaments especially. I think Charlie goes level higher and has docs on live reads etc. would pay quite a lot for that
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02-10-2017 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by icoon
681
0 (Base of rate is very low and prob negative correlation with being able to play 215 dlr tourney)
7 (Most good pros should be self-aware enough to know they cant know for sure if they are the best)
1200
2470 (Shower in the evening, Altho on sundays morning rate will be a bit higher prob)

Would retire on 6-7K a month, because I think I should be able to find a way to make me happier + as a hedge against disease/wars/drastici redistribution of wealth/overpop/robots taking over and enslaving us all. Other then that money is overrated and for me personnaly i was happier having HAving 0 with a structure and plan then XXXK with no clear goals and too much freedom. Most of high happiness EV things cost 0 money( arguably some can be easier reached when u invest money in the good things), but having set money can act as disincentive to improve. And lot of short therm +ev, long term -ev things can be obtained more easily when u have all the money whereas short term lower ev, long term high ev u dont need much money for antway.

Wow this sounds pretty interesting. You think out of every 6000 people 2500 choose to wash/shower at evening instead of night?
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02-10-2017 , 01:28 PM
OH Sorry i mis read. Thought 600 SO MANY to be ghost. Wish none!! GL.
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02-10-2017 , 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
I mean I have a document of info I'll compiled over the years of being studious. Going to live tournaments, hearing gossip, seeing guys staying together at epts. Seeing Uruguayan horses suddenly starting to play like their master. Most of it is just strategic timing/sizing or whatever else that I've seen whilst spending time to watch final tables on replayer etc. Every time I see an unknown in a €10k I'll try and find out who he is, background, screen name, social circle etc. maybe a little bit creepy but I think helps give a pretty big edge in live tournaments especially. I think Charlie goes level higher and has docs on live reads etc. would pay quite a lot for that
That's alright, bring on some more sixthsense19's plx
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02-10-2017 , 02:48 PM
Hey man,

If you had to take a losing MTT player, and turn him into a midstakes crusher... how fast do you think it could be done? This is assuming the player has average IQ, strong work ethic and say he commits 12-14 hours daily to Poker.

Just curious if you think it could be done in a short amount of time with the right coaching/resources!
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02-10-2017 , 03:18 PM
Virgins- 450
Murderers- 1
People who genuinely think they are the best player in the tournament- 21
People who think they are top 100- 1653
Haven't showered that day- 400
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02-10-2017 , 03:49 PM
hi patrick, i understand that you only like to look at evbb/100 at big blind level 400 and above. i have a couple of questions in regards to that. if you have a horse that is at 2,4 ,6, or 8 evbb/100 at an abi of 40 how good/bad is that considered? at what evbb point would you consider moving them slightly up in stakes or slightly down in stakes. i know that there are other considerations in terms of moving players up and down. but with only this information what would be your best answer to this. thanks
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02-10-2017 , 04:09 PM
Made the video giveaway for the thread.



Will work on best way to post it now, any recommendations?
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02-10-2017 , 05:00 PM
Does no one like working?
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02-10-2017 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
As always voice of truth talking absolute bollocks and the last post just shows he has no idea what he's talking about.

Of course stables can be profitable without ghosting.

As far as bitB and ghosting. Tomi/Sam/me are barely online at the business end of the tournaments. If we are then it means we've been playing, once we've finished playing we do cool down sessions via stream with the stable where we go over the hands from our session OR we stream our very deep runs. We often put deep runs of horses on the screen to sweat, but they are generally offline and never sharing their cards.

we actually had a guy recently join us because his ex stable forced to ghost him when he was uncomfortable with it and he heard from his friends in our stable that the culture is the opposite here.

We have very good connections of who is ghosting in the poker world and I have a document with 600+ players on with very detailed notes sometimes including who they are staked/housemates with etc. if a horse is deep with somebody that I know is ghosted I'll always fb them (our guys generally aren't on skype etc when they play) to say that X is probably ghosted by Y.
I never said stables can't be profitable without ghosting, being a drama queen again.

You said before you know of lots of stables that ghost there horses, how is deducing that that makes them a lot more profit total bollox?


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02-10-2017 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by LittleGoliath
Cool gesture iamslayer
a buck will help someone else more than me atm.
for <1 min of my time why not.

the great gesture is the bitb stable atm.

so far great thread

hh of a deep run please
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02-10-2017 , 08:26 PM
6000 runners in last weeks Sunday million

How many:

Virgins: 333
Murderers: 3
People who think they are genuinely the best player in the tournament: 333
People who think they are genuinely in top 100 in field: 3333
Haven't showered that day: 3333
Are on drugs: 33
Don't know that a flush beats a straight: 3.333.333
Play on their parents' account: 333
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