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06-05-2015 , 09:27 AM
48: Kinda interesting river, He's deffo shoving 2 worse value combos JT and QT, then always value betting 8 combos of T8hh, 88, A8cc, 87cc, T9hh, AThh. So VS this range you need 33% equity but have 20%. Having offsuit Tx in his range would change things, but maybe for the worse, as he's more likely to have ATo than JTo. If he shoves j9 as a bluff, it changes things, but this is unlikely below 1k imo.

Seems an A game fold, isn't horrible not to make it though reciprocally.

I'll keep hammering on about our range though......... what is it on flop and turn? I think all our overpairs and AK type stuff want to check somewhere, and draws are few and far between, especially betting this size. My thought process would be, ok there's few potential bluffs, AA-JJ want to check sometimes, so I'll bet my AT to protect my J9 and QJ that will bet, and check the weaker tx which means we can CC CC CF overpair type hands without too much worry. KQ and QJ might want to bet once, so maybe I might bet KT here and then check the turn to protect those.

Thinking like the above is how we make people make mistakes.

Last edited by grogheadflow7; 06-05-2015 at 09:38 AM.
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06-05-2015 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by pureklas
Is it profitable to flat small pp's to squeezes?
I don't think so generally no, though if he plays very well post and villain plays badly it probably strays into minor profitability.

Thing is though postflop, this comes back to what I was talking about but haven't fully finished regarding what ranges different levels of player will bluff into. Your range here is uncapped, and strong, you squeezed and cbet this very wet board. You have 24 overpairs, half of them containing a club, then AKcc AQcc, Ajcc, then 18 combos of AK-AJo containing a club.

Until you get to the very top regs at 500nl and 1k+, you don't generally see bluffs into strong ranges, ranges they don't expect you to fold a lot. Someone termed it to me 'the AK rule' once, ie if you represent AK on an A or Khi board, like by 3betting and cbetting, and get raised, you are ****ed.

There's like 6 regs at 500nl who are actually able to make big bluffs into uncapped ranges, and the only other way it can happen is if it's a total fish or a reg mega tilting. It never happens at 200nl, or from my recollection 100nl.

There's always an outside chance it's a random play with 99 or something, so I don't mind calling and folding turn, but I think overall it's a flop fold.
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06-05-2015 , 09:46 AM
46- fold river, make calling twice and folding on blanks your standard for medium strength hands. People struggle to bluff rivers below 1k, and we have sets, weaker flushes, a straight, and some stronger Qs. Again he's sorta bluffing into a strongish range, one that's called twice.

47- yeah annoying river, flop and turn are must calls. He's a whale so call and see is what I do.
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06-09-2015 , 05:00 AM
Been struggling with motivation and not played as much the past seven days. I guess fear of losing plays a part in that, but also difficult to see me moving up to 100 any time soon.

I also have issues with the time I play. The gf's alarm wakes me up every day at 06:30; I'm out of bed by 07:30 but I'm tired all morning. Then by 10:30 at night I'm knackered. I've tried using supplements to reduce the mental fog. Spirulina was recommended on google; I eat lots of bananas and drink lots of water anyway. I also tried some Menergy tablets.

I don't drink coffee, but perhaps caffeine tablets would help. Any ideas would be appreciated.
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06-09-2015 , 05:33 AM
They days I have to wake up early and only get 5 hours sleep I feel ****ty and I'm not able to play/do almost anything until I have slept few hours more later that day which sucks. Also I have been taking melatonin to help me fall sleep and it makes me sleep better even if I get less sleep I think. Also taking multivitamin but not sure if it has any effect on me but worth trying.

If you aren't working why can't you sleep longer until you are feeling good instead of waking up and still feeling tired? Tho my tiredness might be because I get too much caffeine, I drink around 2 small redbulls a day and before gym I'm taking some preworkout which has 300mg caffeine which makes my sleeping schedule fuked but luckily I have time to sleep every day at around 2pm till 5-6pm and feel good rest of the day and can grind.

I'm not really sure what could help if you are getting + 8 hours of sleep a day. I myself need the 8 hours or I'm not able to do anything productive.

Also about motivation, if you are scared of losing money, you could just change your PS settings to show stacks in bb instead of cash and look at your cashier once a week? I have edited my HM2 to not show any results and hide everything where I could see how I'm doing.
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06-10-2015 , 01:45 PM
Occasionally I get some more sleep, but it's light outside and generally I do not fall back to sleep. I am partial to a mid afternoon power nap.

I'm not 100% sure the fear is losing money. I mean I am not afraid of the $ and I'm willing to stick it in with air. Take the below hand where I spew off thinking I could fold out better. Crazily in game I was thinking I could rep AA and 88 and might fold out TT a decent% as well as make flushes fold. I sometimes forgot I'm playing 50nl me thinks.

    Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #36704921

    BTN: $141.16 (282.3 bb)
    SB: $49.75 (99.5 bb)
    BB: $83.62 (167.2 bb)
    UTG: $50 (100 bb)
    Hero (MP): $130.02 (260 bb)
    CO: $53.08 (106.2 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with A K
    UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.25, CO calls $1.25, 3 folds

    Flop: ($3.25) 8 A 7 (2 players)
    Hero bets $2.04, CO calls $2.04

    Turn: ($7.33) 8 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO checks

    River: ($7.33) T (2 players)
    Hero bets $4.75, CO raises to $17.95, Hero raises to $126.73 and is all-in, CO calls $31.84 and is all-in

    Spoiler:
    Results: $106.91 pot ($2.50 rake)
    Final Board: 8 A 7 8 T
    Hero showed A K and lost (-$53.08 net)
    CO showed T T and won $104.41 ($51.33 net)



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    Or this hand where I just felt this guy was fos pre and post flop and go with my hunch knowing that I can still just be giving away my $.

      Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #36704931

      Hero (BTN): $134.93 (269.9 bb)
      SB: $55.23 (110.5 bb)
      BB: $54.21 (108.4 bb)
      UTG: $51.10 (102.2 bb)
      MP: $38.67 (77.3 bb)
      CO: $55.74 (111.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q J
      UTG raises to $1.50, MP calls $1.50, CO folds, Hero calls $1.50, SB raises to $7, 2 folds, MP calls $5.50, Hero calls $5.50

      Flop: ($23) 8 8 4 (3 players)
      SB bets $10.50, MP folds, Hero calls $10.50

      Turn: ($44) 8 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks

      River: ($44) 9 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $24, SB folds

      Spoiler:
      Results: $44 pot ($1.98 rake)
      Final Board: 8 8 4 8 9
      Hero mucked Q J and won $42.02 ($24.52 net)
      SB mucked and lost (-$17.50 net)



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      Thanks for the tips!
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      06-10-2015 , 01:55 PM
      Hand 50: Villain is a reg. 21/16 type. 6% sb 3b. 5% overall. Cbet 3bet pot 81%. Turn cbet 67%. WTSD 28% WWSF 42. 2k hands. Have him marked as generally aggro. I wonder based on these stats have I misread him.

      I thought about raising the flop, but then I thought that would be too obvious. I'm sure a flop fold or a turn call as played is completely standard in most people's eyes. I like the float, personally, given the turn cards that can allow me to call again. I also like raising some turns. I mean I would want to play sets this way and occasionally 65. I don't have a lot of bluffs, but then people are seriously unpredictable at 50zoom at times - it doesn't matter how few bluffs you have they will just see you raising AQ on the turn or 55 or 66 if they want to justify their re-shove.

        Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #36704961

        Hero (BTN): $56.48 (113 bb)
        SB: $188.87 (377.7 bb)
        BB: $53.68 (107.4 bb)
        UTG: $121.44 (242.9 bb)
        MP: $26.60 (53.2 bb)
        CO: $27.52 (55 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9 T
        3 folds, Hero raises to $1.10, SB raises to $4, BB folds, Hero calls $2.90

        Flop: ($8.50) 4 7 Q (2 players)
        SB bets $3.16, Hero calls $3.16

        Turn: ($14.82) 8 (2 players)
        SB bets $8.63, Hero raises to $23.50, SB raises to $181.71 and is all-in, Hero folds

        Spoiler:
        Results: $61.82 pot ($2.50 rake)
        Final Board: 4 7 Q 8
        Hero mucked 9 T and lost (-$30.66 net)
        SB mucked and won $59.32 ($28.66 net)



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        Thoughts?
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        06-10-2015 , 02:09 PM
        Pretty awful to raise fold with 8 outs to the nuts in position.

        Peel turn and decide whether or not to bluff riv. can win if you bink an out or pear. Maybe you can credibly bluff 4 straights or if the queen pairs. Maybe even bluff on an ace when checked to. Not to mention sometimes he can cf river bricks if 2 and done.
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        06-11-2015 , 03:41 AM
        I think that's far too simplistic thinking. That doesn't mean you are wrong, per se, in this case; however, just because I have 8 outs doesn't mean that a raise isn't a higher EV play. I'm not sure, which is why I'm asking.

        Take the hand below, I think raising is far superior to calling the turn, but tbh i'm not able to back that up with anything other than instinct.

          Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #36717131

          BTN: $45.25 (90.5 bb)
          SB: $97.61 (195.2 bb)
          BB: $125.70 (251.4 bb)
          UTG: $34.72 (69.4 bb)
          Hero (MP): $53.89 (107.8 bb)
          CO: $72.34 (144.7 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is MP with J Q
          UTG calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2, CO calls $2, 4 folds

          Flop: ($5.25) Q A 5 (2 players)
          Hero checks, CO bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

          Turn: ($10.25) 7 (2 players)
          Hero checks, CO bets $7.34, Hero raises to $22.50, CO folds

          Spoiler:
          Results: $24.93 pot ($1.12 rake)
          Final Board: Q A 5 7
          Hero mucked J Q and won $23.81 ($11.97 net)
          CO mucked and lost (-$11.84 net)



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          06-11-2015 , 08:38 AM
          Very different spots but I'll keep my simplistic thinking to myself
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          06-11-2015 , 03:29 PM
          I did not intend to insult you with that comment. Ok fair enough.
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          06-11-2015 , 07:02 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by pureklas
          I think that's far too simplistic thinking. That doesn't mean you are wrong, per se, in this case; however, just because I have 8 outs doesn't mean that a raise isn't a higher EV play. I'm not sure, which is why I'm asking.

          Take the hand below, I think raising is far superior to calling the turn, but tbh i'm not able to back that up with anything other than instinct.

            Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #36717131

            BTN: $45.25 (90.5 bb)
            SB: $97.61 (195.2 bb)
            BB: $125.70 (251.4 bb)
            UTG: $34.72 (69.4 bb)
            Hero (MP): $53.89 (107.8 bb)
            CO: $72.34 (144.7 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is MP with J Q
            UTG calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2, CO calls $2, 4 folds

            Flop: ($5.25) Q A 5 (2 players)
            Hero checks, CO bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

            Turn: ($10.25) 7 (2 players)
            Hero checks, CO bets $7.34, Hero raises to $22.50, CO folds

            Spoiler:
            Results: $24.93 pot ($1.12 rake)
            Final Board: Q A 5 7
            Hero mucked J Q and won $23.81 ($11.97 net)
            CO mucked and lost (-$11.84 net)



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            Learn a program called crev, than you have something to back it up. I honestly think calling here yields high ev.
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            06-12-2015 , 05:35 AM
            Ok, thanks for the advice. CREV is something I need to buy.
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            06-12-2015 , 07:12 AM
            Hand 50: I'd call ahead of raise because of the high risk of a 3bet all in, at higher stakes it doesn't happen as much, but at 200 and down especially in 3bet pots people just shovel in money with their tptk+s OOP, even though VS a decent raising range it's horribad.

            He's shown a lot of strength PF, flop and on the turn, not many draws present and those that are we block. Now raising into strong ranges VS decent players can be quite effective, but at like 100 and below people are just looking at their absolute value a whole lot more so we don't want to bluff ranges showing a lot of strength.

            Intuitively, we have pot odds to peel turn and bink, and if he checks a total blank we might not have to bluff too big, just a small bet to rep Qx would be fine. The main considerations between calling and raising on the turn are: the strength of our draw and how clean it is, and PSR - out of which comes our judgement of the river playability, direct pot odds and implied odds.

            My judgement here is that the direct and implied odds + the chance he check folds river to a small bet make a call somewhat profitable. Raising this particular draw is therefore a 'waste', ie if we did decide that for some reason he was bet folding a lot then I'd take a weaker draw that doesn't mind being 3bet off it- something like A5. I'm not sure the conditions for him bet folding a lot are present though, there aren't many draws to be barrelling and he's betting twice into a board that everyone knows smashes the PF caller's range (Qhi).

            The QJs example is a different spot, and I don't mind raise or call. A lot of folks will bet fold an ace there given the lack of flop draws, so if that's true then raise is >>> than call. If he won't bet fold an ace, we obviously need to call. Overall, VS a population read I prefer raising.
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            06-15-2015 , 03:31 AM
            Finally got out of that downswing I'd created for myself at 50.





            I'll start taking shots again if/when I get to 100 buy-ins at 50.
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            06-15-2015 , 12:19 PM
            Really impressive results at 50 thus far

            What stats are you playing? Vpip, pfr and 3bet only.

            Good luck, cu at the tables
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            06-15-2015 , 04:48 PM
            There's a wealth of information here in these handhistory reviews. For a microstakes grinders this is almost illegal to read. This is so good.
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            06-15-2015 , 05:28 PM
            Why dont you post some winning hands too where you think you took some questionable lines. That would make it more interesting.
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            06-16-2015 , 02:23 AM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by SixBetFold
            Really impressive results at 50 thus far

            What stats are you playing? Vpip, pfr and 3bet only.

            Good luck, cu at the tables
            They have fluctuated over the course of the hands, but a rough idea would be:

            19/20 pfr 24/25 vpip. 3bet I feel like this has reduced significantly from 9 to 7, but not sure. From what I can tell the highest winners seem to 3bet 9+ or at least 8.

            Thanks.
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            06-16-2015 , 02:25 AM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by Squanderer
            There's a wealth of information here in these handhistory reviews. For a microstakes grinders this is almost illegal to read. This is so good.
            I agree with this a lot. I thought the same when I was getting the responses. Grog might want me to delete this at some point

            Quote:
            Originally Posted by Squanderer
            Why dont you post some winning hands too where you think you took some questionable lines. That would make it more interesting.
            I'll try. I do a lot of things that might fall into that category
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            06-16-2015 , 02:41 AM
            in to read later. gl!
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            06-16-2015 , 08:34 PM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by Squanderer
            There's a wealth of information here in these handhistory reviews. For a microstakes grinders this is almost illegal to read. This is so good.
            This. ****ing awesome HH stuff. @OP sick results also man, v well done.
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            06-17-2015 , 03:18 AM
            I'm off to Dublin to visit the girlfriend's Sister for a couple of days. Then to Liverpool for a wedding for the weekend. I get back late on Monday and then I am working Tuesday - Friday teaching Business English. Plus I have a Taekwon-Do exam on Sat 27th. I think this thread will be dead for the next two weeks, but I'm hoping to make July count.

            In the meantime, good luck at the tables.
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            06-17-2015 , 03:26 AM
            seen you at the tables.

            gl
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            06-24-2015 , 04:20 AM
            I'll have to watch your cardrunners video now then
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