34- If limping, this hand goes straight into limp re-raise. Too weak to call, too good to fold, etc. Turn feels bad, mainly because his bluff range is flushes better than ours. I know it sucks but to this size I'd just fold. As played, on the river he's repped a polarised range, meaning we either win VS flushdraws, or need to fold out a strong hand. Folding out a strong hand means going much bigger.
35- Yeah I play it the same and bet river bigger, albeit I kinda prefer 4betting pre cos anything that jams crushes us, it's not suited so harder to play, and people flat 4bets so we need a somewhat non-polarised range some of the time.
T isn't the worst card for us. Again though, we don't rep a ton do we? TT+ might 4bet preflop, 66-88 might not value bet river, might not flat 55, 66 and 44 etc. So our range is somewhat weak, which means we have to go bigger. He should probably still call but people get afraid of big bets.
36- yeah don't mind it but again we gotta man up and go big on the river to fold out an ace. Smaller bluffs are when we're targeting a weak portion of his range, and folding out a top pair BvB calls for pot or a slight overbet imo.
37- agree on river raise size, but don't mind turn check, I'd probably check and lead 50% each, (and of the checking range, raise some of it). I might not go for river bluff either, bluffing recs at 50 is harrrrrd.
39- kinda comes down to range again, 8x 3betting SB vs EP? Also the small flop bet means we cc tons of junk like this, so I think we're awfully weak on the river for betting. Also the 4straight turn means he's checking every overpair and stronger hand, probably to call every river.
So I think we have to check and give up, the small flop cc meant we realised some more equity than if he bet bigger, alas we didn't get there, and our range is too weak and his too strong to be bluffing.
40- As played river's ok, but maybe we should check, if we bet we're only really looking to fold out AJ and AQ which would only take a smaller bet. I'm deffo betting turn tho to set up a shove on 3flush rivers.
41- Ya, turn facing a 3way flop bet and turn bomb, without the NFD, is just a fold imo. It only feels annoying until you realise everyone else will call it and lose money VS a range of strong hands and mostly better flushraws. Haven't seen results, but yeh small is good, tho bigger than this, half pot at least. This size basically screams missed flushdraw.
Overall- I think all of these bluff spots would be solved by thinking about your range before doing it. Luckily that's fairly easy to do! Even if you think they can't handread particularly well, well you'd actually be surprised I think. I've sat in many a casino with outright fish and they at the very least say stuff like 'would you have 3bet 8x from the SB VS UTG?'. Keeping our range in mind also helps mentally, because when called we know that our line is mostly value and they 'lose' anyway.
Finishing on a positive note, it's really good you have the heart to make bluffs in the first place. For so many regs, it's just completely absent except in the best ever spots.
H32: A9s
I don;t really like your play with As9s because you take away so many of his potential fd and you don't have a blocker.I would do that move with some 6/7x cause then you'll block some of his set and concentrate more on folding some overpair
H33:88
It's a good plan but you dind't pull the trigger on the perfect river.I mean you should have here or pp including TT-JJ or maybe even QQ, some busted facecards in spades and some 87s some of the time.You are also deep in the hand and apply max pressure on villan especially on that river.
H34 48s
limp/fold would be bether cause you played big pot with marginal hand.
H35 KJo
Seems std
H36 42o
std
H37 76s
This is simply a spew cause he will never fold a K so you either x/f all the way or bluff catch with 4th pair, you also don't rep that much with your line esp in the eyes of a rec player.
H38 Ako
std
H39 Aqo
std
H40 ATo
I think you should decide on the turn what do you want to rep here cause if you x back here wih pp you don't really re-open on the river expectiv value from what? so if you check pp turn you only rep flush&88 and maybe you do bet some of the fd on the turn cause you want some fold equity and bluff him off some pairs some of the time
H41 KQs
this is kind of bad, i would bet bigger if i really want to rep the J or just give up cause as you said your hand is inclinde to some fd and you won't get credit on the riv.
How many h per month do you grind on 50z and whats your wr on a large sample? asking cause i'm a 50z grinder too but struggle to find that fold button and that has a huge impact on my wr.Whats your wtsd w$sd?
Cheers for all these replies, good to get other people chiming in.
My plan for yesterday was not to bluff much except for the really good spots.
I've noticed I have a leak when check raise bluffing bb v btn. I feel like I take good hands and the bluff the scare card turns, but I don't get many folds. Possible sizing issue? Possible delusion issue.
Hand 42: Villain a 24/19 reg. 58% btn steal % 849 hands. 79% btn cbet 14 occurrences. WTSD % 27.
I played decent yesterday morning, but then played again last night after one beer, kinda tired, no warm up and more out of having nothing else to do because the gf fell asleep on the sofa really early. I obviously convinced myself I was fine to play. The unfortunate result of this below.
Hand 43 ATs
imo it's better to shove turn in this spot bc you benefit from some fe when vill is 2barrel freq and is not balanced.In this particular spot, his sizing on the turn is so big and i don't think you have that fe anymore, basically he is commited to call your shove.. so you are not getting the right price.. fold > call.
Hand 44 AQo
This is basically a spew, you invest 150bb for nothing.I mean his opening any2 and ca x back for pot control with 2nd/3rd pair and then on the turn he tries to get most money in from pairs/draws.. I think I would x/r & shove river if I decide to pull the trigger.I think it';s very bad call 120bb at 50z without info and esp at this limit where people don't bluff too often.You should think more about your ranges when you make this play cause on the turn you rep 55/33 KT taking into cons that you would 3bet TT and some combos of KTs.. you are left with just a few combos and on the river 55 are very rare.. so just think in ranges
Hope I didn't bored you with this analithical stuff lawl
Hello, Hand 44 was posted specifically because it was spew as an example of a mental game leak rather than a technical leak. I should not play poker after any of the following: drinking a beer; tired; no warm up, out of boredom. The fact that I did, despite all these conditions being present, was unacceptable. Hence I posted this hand as a reminder not to do that.
I already used that post to good effect yesterday. I went to a barbecue for lunch; I drank a 750ml bottle of cider and when I came home I felt fine and thought I'd play some poker, but I remembered that hand and went and had a nap instead. That for me is a good win.
I felt like I lost a bit of motivation in the last week of May. The results are extremely underwhelming, but I made great improvements in the technical and mental aspects of my game.
The 100 results are mostly from the beginning of the month. I played 850 hands there yesterday also and lost $32. i just checked the hands and there was nothing much to talk about.
Goals for June:
- 45k hands at 50 nl.
- Show mental game improvement from last month.
I think if I do that then profit will take care of itself.
42 I think is ok-ish, just that the ace turn isn't amazing, all Axs made a pair, AK etc. That said I'd probably bomb the turn looking to fold out Kx, then give up river. Our turn sizing basically leaves us in the spot we got into on the river, where we feel like betting small again to fold out Kx, but are really unsure if it's even in his range any more.
When I CR I categorise the bluffs in terms of strength, this is a pretty weak one and I'd be happy to just take the flop fold equity + the chance of binkage, for the most part. Probably a spade though we can bomb, again to fold out Kx.
43 is a fold yeah, it actually took me about 4 years as a professional before I realised that decent flushdraws were ok to fold on the turn a lot, so I understand the conflict that must occur where you maybe think you 'must' have misplayed it. You didn't, until the turn.
44, I know it's just posted as spew, but it isn't that unlikely raw Kx finds a fold- people get scared of money. Again it's a range issue though- I mostly just wanted to say though that we can check river and have some showdown value VS some turned clubs and the odd QJ that didn't cbet, maybe even calling river wouldn't be out of the question depending on size.
I'm not posting as much hands because I am not getting in to situations where I am as unsure as I was previously.
Hand 45: Villain 24/21 3b 11 sqz 17 420 hands. Had a note that he was kind of spewy / had fps. I figured he would call light pf to such a small 4b and float the flop a decent amount to a small sizing. Plan was to jam the turn, but then I figured I would give him some rope. Not sure how I feel about the turn check.
Preflop: Hero is MP with K A
UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.25, CO calls $1.25, BTN raises to $5, 2 folds, Hero raises to $11.75, CO folds, BTN calls $6.75
Hand 46: I only have 61 hands but villain has opened the btn 67% thus far and the sb 50% so fair to say he know's about stealing. 21/14/5 otherwise.
Cbet 100%.
I don't flat a lot in the sb so this spot feels iffy versus such wide button ranges.
Hand 47: Have villain marked as a whale for calling a 3b cold with 64s then jamming over a cbet with bottom pair with a 50bb stack not long ago. That said I have no idea of his triple barrel strategy on A hi, flush turn boards and to be honest I wasn't sure what my default strategy should be.
Hand 48: Have villain marked as aggro spewy post. 24/19/9 132 hands Fold to 3-bet: 50 and 4-bet: 0.
Mostly not 3betting this pf. I think flop and turn sizings are standard. Flop, I could check and let him spew off - decided to bet this time. River, is it a check fold or would that be giving up too much value?
Hand 49: Versus a reg: 20/15/6 2k hands. FOld to 3bet 53%. Flop c/r 9%.
Honestly didn't know what the best play was here. If in doubt, shove
I thought most regs would fold low pp's here. Could be wrong on that assumption given stacks. Side question: Is it profitable to flat small pp's to squeezes? I would have thought he has to check fold the flop far too often to make it profitable, esp as I squeeze light a lot and he doesn't always get my stack when he hits.
Flop I bet a standard bet size for me. His range for check raising? Sets; 66; AcX. To be honest though, if I think he flats a strongish range i.e pairs + suited AJ/AQ/KQ and maybe AQo then perhaps this is a call flop, fold turn scenario or a straight fold,